Aug 29, 2022 Agenda Workshop

>> HE'S NOT IN HERE. I DON'T SEE HIM EITHER, SO HE MAY NOT BE IN HERE.

>> YOU SHOULD DO THAT.

>> I CAN'T SEE HIM.

I LOVE THAT IDEA AND I KNOW HE'S GOT SEVERAL PEOPLE ON HIS TEAM NOW THAT COULD PROBABLY HELP HIM AS WELL, THAT WOULD LOVE THIS PROJECT.

THE ONLY THING I'M SEEING RIGHT OFF THE BAT, AND I KNOW IT LOOKS LIKE YOU UPDATED SEVERAL OF THESE IN THE SOCIAL CONTRACT, WE JUST NEED TO I THINK BE PROFESSIONAL.

WE MOVE TO THE LAST, OTHERWISE.

>> ALSO, MADAM PRESIDENT, THE VISION STATEMENT, IT NEEDS A DASH ON HIGHLY SOUGHT AFTER.

I WILL MAKE SURE IT MATCHES WITH WHAT IS APPROVED TONIGHT.

>> GOT IT.

>> I WILL MAKE THOSE CHANGES.

>> THIS HAS BEEN SENT AROUND PRIOR TO TONIGHT, CORRECT? WE'VE HAD THOSE.

>> I TURNED THIS IN ON FRIDAY TO MS. BARBARA, GLORIA, AND I BELIEVE SHE PUT ON BOARD BLOG?

>> YES. PERFECT. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS ABOUT THE REVISIONS, MR. VELA?

>> YES. I THINK SOMEBODY SHOULD READ THE ENTIRE DOCUMENT.

I'M KIDDING. [LAUGHTER]

>> NO. I DECLINE YOUR REQUEST AS PRESIDENT.

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THESE LOOK GREAT AND I KNOW THIS WAS PROBABLY PAINFUL FOR OUR AUDIENCE LAST WEEK, BUT IT'S SUPER IMPORTANT FOR THIS BOARD TO HAVE BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURES THAT WE KNOW, WE UNDERSTAND, WE ABIDE BY, AND IT HELPS ALL OF US BE PRODUCTIVE AND WORK IN CONCERT WITH OUR ADMINISTRATION AND WITH DR. WRIGHT.

DR. WRIGHT, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS? ARE YOU PROUD OF US?

>> QUITE PROUD OF YOU. IT'S ONE OF THE FINEST DOCUMENTS I'VE SEEN.

I DO THINK IT WILL WIN AN AWARD AT THE [INAUDIBLE] AWARDS.

THEN I THINK SOMEBODY THAT WORKS FOR [INAUDIBLE] SHOULD PROBABLY PRESENT THIS TO FUTURE GROUPS SO THAT THEY CAN BORROW SOME OF OUR IDEAS.

>> WE MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE BORROWED FROM OTHER PEOPLE BASED ON MRS. OROSCO'S WORK.

DR. WRIGHT, YOU FELL FOR THAT? THAT'S WHAT MY HUSBAND CALLS SOLICITING FOR KUDOS.

GOOD JOB. WE WILL GET MR. SAVOY'S TEAM ON THAT.

I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT WE PUT INTO THAT AND ESPECIALLY MRS. OROSCO BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WAS A LABOR OF LOVE FOR HER, ESPECIALLY MOVING IT FROM POWERPOINT TO [LAUGHTER] WHATEVER [INAUDIBLE] MOVE IT TO.

MOVED BY MRS. OROSCO, SECONDED BY MR. VELA.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES 7-0. NEXT STEP,

[L.13. Consideration and possible approval to amend the interlocal agreement with Hays/Caldwell ESD #1 to provide additional time for the construction of a fire station]

WE TALKED ABOUT THIS LAST WEEK.

WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO AMEND OUR INNER LOCAL AGREEMENTS WITH HAYES CALDWELL, EST NUMBER 1 TO PROVIDE CONSTRUCTION ADDITIONAL TIME FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A FIRE STATION.

AS WE TALKED ABOUT LAST WEEK, THAT 21,17 DATE IS NOT A TYPO. THAT IS REAL.

IT MAKES ME FEEL DEAD [LAUGHTER] [INAUDIBLE] 17.

MOVED BY MR. MCMANUS, SECONDED BY DR. PEREZ GONZALEZ.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. AYE. ANY OPPOSED?

>> MOTION CARRIES 7-0, AND THAT'S GOING TO BE A GREAT ADDITION TO THAT COMMUNITY.

NEXT UP WE HAVE OUR DEMOGRAPHIC SERVICES ON PAGE 150.

[L.14. Consideration and possible approval of demographic services]

WE DID TALK ABOUT THIS LAST NIGHT.

YOU DO HAVE A REPORT OR AN ADDITIONAL DOCUMENT IN YOUR DIAS FOLDER.

IT LOOKS LIKE THIS. IT'S IN YOUR DIAS FOLDER.

THIS DEMOGRAPHIC REPORT.

MR. CLEAVER IS HERE TO ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS.

WE DID HAVE SOME QUESTIONS LAST WEEK.

[BACKGROUND] THIS IS FOR SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

SORRY. DO WE HAVE ANYTHING FOR THIS ITEM?

>> NOTHING NEW.

>> NOTHING NEW. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR MR. CLEAVER? MR. SEVERANCE?

>> YES. THANKS. MAX, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT A CONCERN ABOUT THE ONCE A YEAR REPORT THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE GETTING IN.

CAN YOU CONFIRM WHEN WE WERE GOING TO GET THAT REPORT EVERY YEAR?

>> YES, SIR. WE WILL GET THAT REPORT IN DECEMBER AND IT WILL INCLUDE A MOST PROBABLE AND THEN A LOW ESTIMATE AND THEN A HIGH ESTIMATE.

>> I KNOW WE SUBMITTED I KNOW TEMPLETON I THINK IS CHANGED FORMATS, WHATEVER.

WHEN WE WENT OUT TO LOOK FOR NEW DEMOGRAPHER, WHO ALL DID WE SEND THIS REQUEST OUT TO? HOW MANY FOLKS DID WE SEND THIS OUT TO?

>> I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION HANDY, BUT I CAN GET THAT FROM THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT.

>> HOW MANY PEOPLE RESPONDED TO THIS BID?

>> I BELIEVE WE GOT ONE RESPONSE.

>> THE COMPANY [OVERLAPPING]

>> FROM PASA.

>> FROM PASA. LET'S SAY THAT IF WE HAPPEN TO BE TALKING ABOUT CHARGING THE FPLC WITH A BOND.

ON THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM WHICH RELATES TO THIS COMPANY, WHAT'S THE SOONEST WHERE YOU'RE ABLE TO GET SOME INFORMATION FROM THEM TO START THE PROCESS OF WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE? WHEN DO WE NEED STUFF? THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF INFORMATION THERE THAT WE WOULD NEED TO GIVE TO THE FPRC TO LOOK AT SOME OF THIS INFORMATION.

>> WE'LL GET TWO MORE REPORTS FROM TEMPLETON AND WE'LL GET THE SECOND QUARTER 22 IN THE THIRD QUARTER 22 DURING OUR PLANNING PERIOD.

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>>OKAY.

>> PASA WOULD OBVIOUSLY OVERLAP IN THERE AND IF THEY WERE TO BE APPROVED AT NIGHT, THEY WOULD START THEIR WORK.

IF THERE WERE SOMETHING GLARING THAT THEY SAW, THEY WOULD LET US KNOW EARLY ON.

>> ALSO WENT THROUGH AND LOOKED AT SOME OF THE REPORTING THEY DID, WHICH I APPRECIATED FROM OTHER DISTRICTS THEY WORKED WITH WHEN I STARTED REPORTING VERSUS LIKE WHERE IT LOOKS LIKE WHEN THEY SAID IN THE WORLD LOOKS LIKE NOW.

I HAVE TO SAY THAT MAJORITY OF THE ITEMS THEY CAME IN EITHER THEY WERE A LITTLE BIT HIGH, WHICH IS FINE THAN WHAT IT WAS.

I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF THEY DID ANY PRELIMINARY THAT FOR OUR DISTRICT AT ALL BEFORE THEY SUBMITTED ANYTHING? DID THEY LOOK AT HAYS COUNTY?

>> YES, SIR. I THINK THE WAY YOU DEMOGRAPHERS WORK THEY ARE DATA JUNKIES.

THIS PARTICULAR COMPANY USED TO WORK FOR HAZE.

WE'LL BE A REPEAT CLIENTS.

I DON'T THINK THEY'VE EVER REALLY LOST TRACK WITH WHAT'S GOING ON HERE.

THEY HAVE A LOT OF FAST GROWTH DISTRICT WORK IN OTHER PARTS OF THE STATE.

THEY ALSO DO KEMAL AND A FEW OTHER CLOSE ONES HERE AS WELL.

I THINK THEY'VE GOT THEIR FINGER ON THE PULSE OF WHAT'S GOING ON.

>> GOOD.

>> THEY KNOW IT'S A BIG JOB.

>> THEN IF THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, IF WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT DOING A BOND AND OUTSIDE OF A CYCLE THAT DECEMBER TIMEFRAME, IS THERE OPPORTUNITIES TO GET OTHER REPORTS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR IF WE NEED THEM?

>> I THINK IF STACY TOPARA WAS STANDING HERE, SHE WOULD SAY THE SAME THING.

IN THEIR MIND, THERE'S JUST NOT ENOUGH TIME TO DO A MEANINGFUL QUARTERLY UPDATE.

TO REALLY DO OUR BOOTS ON THE GROUND ASSESSMENT AND MAKE THOSE PHONE CALLS AND MAKE THE CONTACTS, THERE'S JUST NOT ENOUGH TIME TO DO IT RIGHT MORE THAN ONCE A YEAR.

THAT'S THEIR PHILOSOPHY.

IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT METHODOLOGY ON HOW THEY GET THEIR INFORMATION, I THINK.

>> THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAD.

>> MRS. OROSCO?

>> I UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT THEIR PHILOSOPHY, BUT WOULD THEY BE ABLE TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING AND NOT QUARTERLY, BUT MAYBE TWICE A YEAR GIVING US SOME INFORMATION SINCE WE ARE A FAST GROWTH DISTRICT, I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO HAVE THAT DATA.

I KNOW THERE WAS AN EXTRA CHARGE FOR SOMETHING THAT YOU REFERRED TO LAST TIME, TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT EXTRA CHARGE AND IF THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO DO IT, MAYBE NOT QUARTERLY, BUT AT LEAST TWICE A YEAR FOR US.

>> THEY RESPONDED TO THAT IN THEIR RESPONSE AND THEY CERTAINLY WOULD.

THEY'LL GIVE US WHAT THEY CAN, BUT THEY'VE ALREADY SAID IT'S JUST NOT ENOUGH TIME TO REPEAT THE SAME THING TWICE IN A YEAR.

MAYBE IN A DISTRICT THAT'S NOT GROWING AS FAST.

THERE'S NOT SO MANY CHANGES ALL THE TIME THAT IT MIGHT BE EASIER TO TRACK THEM.

THEY DO IT ONCE A YEAR AND THEY HAVE A GOOD TRACK RECORD.

I TRUST THEIR DATA.

I THINK THAT ONCE A YEAR WITH THAT MOST LIKELY AND THEN HIGH AND LOW SCENARIO, I THINK THAT IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT WAY TO LOOK AT IT.

I'M CERTAIN THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO WORK WITH THIS.

IF WE ABSOLUTELY HAD TO HAVE A SECOND REPORT, THEY WILL ABSOLUTELY WORK WITH US.

BUT THEY JUST DON'T. THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY DO.

>> HOW DO YOU FEEL MR. CLEAVER WITH JUST GETTING THIS DATA ONCE A YEAR, ARE YOU CONFIDENT THAT WE CAN TAKE CARE OF OUR BOND NEEDS AND PROJECT ACCORDINGLY WITH THIS ONCE A YEAR FORMAT?

>> YES, MA'AM. ACTUALLY, PRIOR TO BEING WITH TEMPLETON HERE, I HAD ONLY GOTTEN DATA ONCE A YEAR.

SO THE QUARTERLY UPDATE WAS ACTUALLY NEW TO ME COMING HERE.

>> THANK YOU, MR. CLEAVER.

>> MR. MCMANUS, BEFORE YOU GO AND DR. WRIGHT HAD SOMETHING HE WANTED TO ADD TO THIS CONVERSATION?

>> MR. CLEAVER, YOU AND I HAVE BEEN MONITORING THE TWO DEVELOPMENTS AT WATER STONE AND AT CAMINO FOR PROBABLY THE LAST FOUR YEARS.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BOARD APPROVE THIS, THAT WE GET A HANDLE AS FAR AS WHAT THAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE BECAUSE WATER STONE HAS 10,000 FUTURE LOTS, CAMINO HAS 7,000, AND ON ALEXANDRA REPORT, IT SHOWS NO CURRENT ACTION IS ZERO.

IF THOSE SHOULD START MOVING, THEN THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE HOW WE LOOK AT THIS BOND LIST.

IF YOU COULD TARGET THEIR FOCUS ON THOSE TWO PARTICULAR MONSTERS IN THE ROOM, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT.

>> YES, SIR. NOTED.

>> THANK YOU. DR. WRIGHT. MR. MCMANUS YOU HAD A QUESTION?

>> JUST A STATEMENT MORE.

I HAD SOME OF THESE CONCERNS AS WELL UNTIL I DUG THROUGH THE SAMPLE REPORT THAT MAX PUT FOR US TO LOOK AT.

IT'S THE MOST THOROUGH REPORT I'VE EVER SEEN FOR A SCHOOL DISTRICT.

I WAS EXTREMELY IMPRESSED BY WHAT I SAW.

I THINK AS LONG AS WE UNDERSTAND THERE'S A BAND OF RANGE, IF YOU WILL, THAT THINGS CAN HAPPEN.

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I THINK WE SHOULD BE COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT WE GOT.

I WAS SATISFIED WITH THAT REPORT.

IT WAS WAY MORE THAN WHAT WE GET NOW.

SO IT WAS GOOD STUFF AND I THINK AT LEAST FOR ME PERSONALLY, I'M GOOD WITH IT.

>> THANK YOU, MR. MCMANUS.

THEY TAKE A DIVE INTO THAT PLANNING UNIT LEVEL.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT ARCGIS, WHICH IS THE SOFTWARE, OUR DISTRICT, EVERY SQUARE INCH IS IN A PLANNING UNIT.

I THINK THERE'S ABOUT 350.

SO THEY DRILL DOWN INTO THAT PLANNING UNIT AND TELL YOU EXACTLY EVEN DOWN TO THE STUDENT YIELD PER PLANNING UNIT.

THAT GETS INTO THE EXACTLY THE AREAS WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT.

WE CAN ACTUALLY GET TO THE PLANNING UNIT.

>> ANYTHING ELSE OVER HERE ON DEMOGRAPHER SERVICES, MRS. [INAUDIBLE]?

>> NOT SO MUCH A QUESTION, BUT A STATEMENT.

I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT I THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU SUBMITTED TO US BECAUSE I'M VERY COMFORTABLE WITH THIS AND IT WAS A LOT OF INFORMATION.

AS LONG AS THAT INFORMATION ONCE A YEAR IS THE FULL BIG PICTURE BECAUSE WE HAVE HAD SOME ISSUES WITH OUR CURRENT DEMOGRAPHERS.

BUT IF WE'RE GETTING THAT FULL BOOK, BIG PICTURE ONCE A YEAR, THEN I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.

IF YOU CAN SIT THERE AND TELL US, MR. CLEAVER, THAT YOU ARE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT, THEN I'M GOOD WITH THAT.

BUT THIS WAS GOOD STUFF.

THIS WAS A LOT OF INFORMATION AND IF THEY DO EVERYTHING THEY SAY THEY'RE GOING TO DO, THEN I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE REAL HAPPY WITH THE RESULTS THAT WE SEE. THANK YOU.

>> YOUR WELCOME.

>> ANYTHING ELSE?

>> I WANT TO JUST ECHO WHAT DR. WRIGHT SAID.

I KNOW WE HAVE SEVERAL FOLKS THAT HAVE QUITE A BIT OF LAND THAT THEY ARE EITHER SITTING ON OR THINKING ABOUT DEVELOPING AND I KNOW THERE'S BEEN DEVELOPERS THAT HAVE COME AND GONE AND FOR WHATEVER REASON THEY MOVED ON OR THEY SOLD THE PROPERTY AND THEN THEY DIDN'T DO WHAT THEY WERE GOING TO DO.

I KNOW FROM MRS. BEDWELL, AND FOR THE FBOC, IT'D BE REALLY HELPFUL TO KNOW WHAT SOME OF THESE LARGER TRACKS, LIKE THE BAILEE TRACK HAD BEEN SITTING THERE FOR A LONG TIME AND NOW WE'RE FINALLY SEEING MOVEMENT THERE.

SOME OF THESE THAT DR. WRIGHT IS TALKING ABOUT WILL DEFINITELY IMPACT WHERE WE MIGHT WANT TO EXPAND, PUT A HIGH-SCHOOL, PUT A MIDDLE-SCHOOL, WHATEVER.

SO I'M EXCITED THAT THIS GROUP THAT YOU HAVE WORKED WITH BEFORE IS WILLING TO DIG IN AND DO SOME BOOTS ON THE GROUND AND REALLY MAYBE SOLVE SOME OF THE MYSTERIES AS TO WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE GROWING THE FASTEST.

>> ONE QUICK QUESTION. DO YOU KNOW WHY WE MOVED AWAY FROM TEMPLETON SO MANY YEARS AGO? I KNOW YOU PROBABLY WEREN'T HERE.

DO YOU KNOW WHY WE MOVED TO TEMPLETON FROM PASA?

>> I DON'T. IF I WAS GUESSING, IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN FINANCIAL RELATED BECAUSE AS YOU SEE, IT'S A LITTLE MORE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LITTLE MORE SPEND HERE.

JUST GUESSING THAT WOULD BE MY GUESS.

>> WELL, WE'RE GOING TO TRUST THAT YOU ARE GOING TO BE ALL OVER THIS AND MRS. BEDWELL WILL LET US KNOW IF WE DON'T LIKE WHAT WE GET FROM THEM. I AM SURE OF IT.

MOVED BY MR. MCMANUS HAS SECONDED BY MR. VELA.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSE? MOTION CARRIES 7-0.

WE HAVE A NEW DEMOGRAPHER.

NEXT STEP. WE HAVE AN ITEM ABOUT CHARGING THE FBOC WITH DEVELOPING A FUTURE BOND.

>> IT'S EXCITING.

[L.15. Consideration and possible approval of charging the FBOC with developing a future bond recommendation]

ON PAGE 152, WE HAVE SOME BACKGROUND INFORMATION THAT WE WANT TO GIVE TO THE BOARD AS WE CONSIDER THIS CHARGE.

TELL US WHAT WE HAVE IN OUR DIETS FOLDERS FOR THIS EVENING, MR. CLEAVER.

>> YES, MA'AM, THE ITEM YOU ARE ALREADY IDENTIFIED WAS THE 1Q22 DEMOGRAPHERS REPORT, YES FOR THAT AND THEN YOU ALSO HAVE A DOCUMENT THAT LOOKS LIKE THIS, THAT IS OUR CURRENT LONG-RANGE FACILITIES PLAN.

ALSO AS I WAS ALSO ASKED FOR SOME BONDING CAPACITY INFORMATION, I GOT THAT AT 5:50 PM AND IT IS A GOOD STORY AND I CAN WALK THROUGH IT A LITTLE BIT, TALK THROUGH IT BUT I CAN GET THAT TO YOU FIRST THING IN THE MORNING.

>> WE DO NOT HAVE BONDING CAPACITY DOLLARS RIGHT THIS SECOND?

>> WE DO NOT HAVE BONDING CAPACITY BUT I WOULD SAY THAT EVERYTHING ON THIS SHEET, THE $978 MILLION BETWEEN NOW, EVERYTHING ON THIS SHEET WE CAN ACTUALLY AFFORD, WE CAN DO THAT WITH SALES IN 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, AND 28 AND IT WOULD ACTUALLY TAKE US ALL OF THAT TIME TO CONSTRUCT EVERYTHING ON THIS LIST, BUT I WILL GET THAT INFORMATION TO YOU TOMORROW FROM A DUSTY TRAILER.

I WAS ASKED TO JUST GO THROUGH THE 2023 BOND PLAN.

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WHAT'S CURRENTLY ON IT.

>> THIS IS WHAT'S SHADED ON OUR PAPER?

>> IT'S SHADED. BASICALLY, THIS IS THE FACILITY MASTER PLAN FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVEN'T SEEN THIS.

THIS IS OUR ATTEMPT TO GET ALL ON ONE PAGE WITH THE PROJECT, THE COMPLETION DATE, THE LOCATION, THE NARRATIVE, HOW MUCH IT'S GOING TO COST, AND THEN WHETHER WE CAN AFFORD IT.

FOR THIS PARTICULAR ITEM I ACTUALLY TOOK OFF THE FAR RIGHT COLUMN WAITING ON THAT INFORMATION FOR DUSTY, BUT I WILL BE ABLE TO INSERT THOSE NUMBERS I GOT FROM HIM ON THAT FAR RIGHT COLUMN TO SHOW WHAT THEY WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS SHOULD WE VOTE TO DO THIS.

THE SHADED AREA THAT YOU CAN SEE ON YOUR WRITTEN DOCUMENT OR ON FOR THE AUDIENCE ON THE BOARD, WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS 2023 BOND POTENTIAL, IT'S CURRENTLY AT $416 MILLION.

THE FIRST COUPLE OF ITEMS WERE ON THE CYCLE ITEMS, THE CADENCE ITEMS. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT AN ELEMENTARY EVERY YEAR OR EVERY TWO YEARS SO WE HAVE THE ELEMENTARY 17 CONSTRUCTION WHERE WE'RE DESIGNING ELEMENTARY 17 RIGHT NOW SO THE NEXT ONE WOULD BE ELEMENTARY 17 CONSTRUCTION THEN THE DESIGN FEES FOR ELEMENTARY 18, SO THAT'S THAT CADENCE.

THEN THROUGH THE COMMITTEE PROCESS, I HEARD AND SO WE ATTEMPT TO CATCH, WE PUT EVERYTHING ON HERE AND THIS IS HOW WE TALK ABOUT THINGS.

WHAT I HEARD IS IT'S HIGH SCHOOL, WE NEED TO START TALKING ABOUT HIGH SCHOOL 4 EARLY BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO BE LATE ON HIGH-SCHOOL 4.

BUT WE ALSO WANT TO TALK ABOUT ADDITIONAL CAPACITY IF THE EXISTING HIGH SCHOOLS.

BUT FOR THIS LINE ITEM, DESIGN FEES FOR HIGH SCHOOL 4, THAT IS CURRENTLY IN THERE TO GO ALL THE WAY THROUGH CONSTRUCTION, WE COULD OBVIOUSLY THROTTLE BACK ON THAT AND JUST GET TO SAY DESIGN DEVELOPMENT OR A SCHEMATIC DESIGN ENOUGH TO AT LEAST GET THE SITE PERMIT STARTED.

THEN THE NEXT ITEMS WE WORKED WITH ADMINISTRATION AND CABINETS AND THE PRINCIPALS TO COME UP WITH THESE NEXT ITEMS AND ALSO WITH LANCE AND PATTY ON THEIR VISIONS.

JHS RENOVATIONS, THAT WOULD BE TO INCREASE THE CAPACITY FROM THE CURRENT 2250 TO SOMEWHERE AROUND 2800 OR 3000 STUDENTS.

THEN ALSO IN THAT SAME PROJECT, WE WOULD DO A NEW JHS BAND HALL AND THEN CONVERT THE EXISTING BAND HALL TO ANOTHER REHEARSAL SPACE.

ALSO, WE'RE PROPOSING LAHMAN HIGH SCHOOL RENOVATIONS AND ADDITIONS AND HAYES HIGH SCHOOL RENOVATIONS AND ADDITIONS.

WHAT I WANTED TO SHOW YOU ON THAT IS THOSE WOULDN'T NEED TO BE COMPLETED UNTIL WAY LATER.

YOU CAN SEE IN THAT COMPLETION DATE, WE WOULD TRY TO SELL THEM AS A PACKAGE, IN OTHER WORDS, WE WOULD TALK ABOUT HIGH-SCHOOL CAPACITY FOR ALL OF THE HIGH SCHOOLS, BUT WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO COMPLETE THESE TILL LATER AND WE WOULDN'T ACTUALLY SELL THE BONDS UNTIL LATER.

BUT ANYWAY, SO JOHNSON HIGH SCHOOL, THAT'S RENOVATIONS AND ADDITIONS IN THE BAND HALL.

LAHMAN, SAME THING, RENOVATIONS AND ADDITIONS THAT WOULD NOT ACTUALLY HAVE TO COME ON ONLINE UNTIL ABOUT 2030 FOR THE CAPACITY PIECE.

BUT FOR THE ORCHESTRA HALL, MARIACHI IN THEATER THE RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE THOSE FORWARD AND DO THOSE PRETTY MUCH IMMEDIATELY FOR THE ORCHESTRA HALL MARIACHI IN THEATER.

AT HAYES HIGH SCHOOL, SAME RENOVATIONS AND ADDITIONS, GETTING THAT CAPACITY UP, THAT WOULD COME ONLINE SOMEWHERE AROUND 2028.

I THINK ON THE DEMOGRAPHIC REPORT, WHAT YOU'RE SEEING WE'RE TRYING TO HIT THE SPOT WHEN THE CAMPUS GETS TO ABOUT 2,600, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO PULL THE TRIGGER AND HAVE THAT EXTRA SPACE THERE.

AT THE TIME WE WERE TALKING ABOUT A HAYES HIGH SCHOOL TRACK FACILITY WITH TURF FIELD SO THAT SHELTON WAS TRULY A NEUTRAL SPOT.

GOING BACK TO THE NOTE ON THE BACK PAGE, LAHMAN HIGH SCHOOL BASEBALL, SOFTBALL STADIUM RENOVATIONS, THAT'S BEEN KICKED AROUND FOR A WHILE, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT FOR A COUPLE OF BOND CYCLES.

THEN BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL, ARTIFICIAL TURF, THAT'S TURF AT ALL OF THE HIGH SCHOOLS ON THE BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL FIELDS.

THE MULTIPURPOSE PAVILIONS, WE TALKED ABOUT, THOSE ARE THE LARGE COVERED PAVILIONS WITH TURF UNDERNEATH THEM.

MIDDLE-SCHOOL GAME FIELD, ARTIFICIAL TURF, WAIT ROOM AT THREE HIGH SCHOOLS, WAIT ROOMS AT SIX MIDDLE SCHOOLS, HVAC CYCLE REPLACEMENTS, AND ROOF CYCLE REPLACEMENTS.

JUST LAST WEDNESDAY WE PRESENTED THE INITIAL ROOFING CYCLE.

WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THOSE BUDGETS AND WE'RE ALIGNING THAT OUT AND WE'LL BE MEETING WITH ALBERT THIS WEEK TO GO OVER THE HVAC.

WE HAVE TOM GREEN IMPROVEMENTS.

I'M SORRY I'M GOING TO TAKE OFF THAT WORD EXTERIOR.

TOM GREEN IMPROVEMENTS, THINGS LIKE AWNINGS,

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WINDOWS, PAINT INSIDE ITEMS, KYLE ELEMENTARY IMPROVEMENTS, DRIVE LOOP, AND DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS AT DOLSTER MIDDLE-SCHOOL THAT'S IN THE REAR OF THE CAMPUS ON THE NORTH SIDE.

FURNITURE REPLACEMENTS, WE'VE HEARD THAT MULTIPLE TIMES.

WE'VE HEARD SPECIFICALLY ABOUT KYLE AND TOM GREEN, THERE COULD ALSO BE OTHERS.

BUSES ON THERE HAVE A PLUG-IN THERE FOR FUTURE BUSES, AND THEN TECHNOLOGY AND THEN BOND SUPPORT.

I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THAT BOND SUPPORT LINE IN OUR CURRENT BOND, WE HAD SHIPPING IN THE OTHER BOND, YEAH THE '21 BOND, WE HAD IT LISTED AS LET'S SEE, PROJECT MANAGEMENT.

WE'RE CHANGING THAT TO BOND SUPPORT BECAUSE THIS SUMMER, FOR INSTANCE, WE COULD HAVE USED SOME HELP MOVING THINGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

THAT'S WHAT'S ON THE DOCKET FOR OUR DISCUSSIONS GOING FORWARD ON THE 2023 BOND.

THE 25 AND 26 BONDS ARE ALSO ON THERE.

DID YOU WANT ME TO GO INTO THOSE OR?

>> LET'S HOLD OFF ON THOSE.

LET'S GET SOME QUESTIONS OUT FOR THE 2023 BOND.

AGAIN TEAM, THIS IS THE FULL GAMUT OF WHAT THE FBOC WILL BE CONSIDERING AND WILL BRING BACK TO US THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR WHAT THEY BELIEVE WE SHOULD PUT TOGETHER ON A BOND.

ULTIMATELY, IT IS UP TO THE BOARD, SO IT'S GOOD TO SEE THE FULL PLAN, THE FULL ROADMAP OF WHAT DR. WRIGHT AND MR. CLEAVER'S TEAM IS LOOKING AT SO I WILL GO AHEAD AND OPEN UP QUESTIONS, MR. BAILEY, I SAW YOUR HAND FIRST.

>> MR. CLEAVER, THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION.

OBVIOUSLY, WE HAVE DATES ON THEIR PROJECTED, THE MONTH AND THE YEAR, IF WE DON'T HAVE ONE IN THE SHADED THEN IT'S GOING TO BE SOMETIME IN THE 2023 YEAR, FOR EXAMPLE, IF THIS BOND WERE TO PASS.

>> CORRECT. FOR INSTANCE, LAHMAN HIGH SCHOOL BASEBALL STADIUM RENOVATIONS, FOR INSTANCE, YEAH.

THAT WOULD BE AS SOON AS THE BOND PASS, WE WOULD GET TO WORK ON IT.

YES I CAN POPULATE THOSE.

>> GREAT, AND THEN JUST BECAUSE OF WHAT I RUN INTO MY WORK, I KNOW THE BUSES ARE GOING TO BE ON THERE JUST ABOUT EVERY SINGLE TIME.

HOW ARE WE DOING WITH OUR CYCLE REPLACEMENT FOR BUSES?

>> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. WE ACTUALLY TOOK THAT, THAT WAS ANOTHER AGENDA ITEM WE HAD WITH THE FBOC AND SO IF YOU LOOK ON THE 21 BOND HERE, WE PUT A 55-20 FOR GROWTH AND 35 FOR REPLACEMENT.

I THINK RIGHT ABOUT NOW, WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO ABOUT 51 OR 52 BECAUSE OF PRICING, SO I PROBABLY WILL ALSO PUT UP TO 55 BUSES OR SOME OTHER LANGUAGE SO THAT WE'RE NOT JUST SHOEHORNING OURSELVES IN ON A NUMBER.

>> THANK YOU FOR SAYING TAKE OUT THE EXTERIOR BECAUSE I SAW THIS AND I WAS LIKE, YEAH, I THOUGHT WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT TOM GREEN AND KYLE ELEMENTARY REWARD, JUST TALKING ABOUT EXTERIOR MODIFICATIONS BUT INTERIOR.

>> MR. ANCLE.

BUT I ALSO NOTICED ON HERE LOOKING AHEAD TOO AS WE BUILD NEW SCHOOLS WE HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF OUR OLDER CAMPUSES, AND HEMPHILL ELEMENTARY IS NOT FAR BEHIND KYLE AND TOM GREEN.

I DON'T WANT TO LEAVE THEM OUT.

I DO SEE IN 2025 YOU HAVE HEMPHILL ART AND MUSIC ROOMS, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT COVERS EVERYTHING FOR HEMPHILL.

THAT MAY BE ANOTHER CONVERSATION THAT WE NEED TO HAVE.

WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO ME IS MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE TAKING CARE OF THE NEEDS IN OUR DISTRICT FIRST BEFORE THE ONES.

I KNOW THAT WE WANT EVERYTHING.

BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE THIS LIST FOR THE 2023 BOND.

IS THERE A PRIORITY? WHAT IS THE TOP PRIORITY TO FBOC TO THE LEAST PRIORITY?

>> HAVE Y'ALL DEFINED WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE ON THIS LIST?

>> NO, MA'AM. THAT'S ACTUALLY WHAT WE CALL MAKING THE SAUSAGE.

THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD DO NEXT.

IF Y'ALL WERE TO CHARGE US, WE WOULD GET INTO THIS, PRIORITIZE IT, AND BRING IT BACK TO Y'ALL BY DECEMBER AND SAY, WE RECOMMEND THESE ITEMS. THEN Y'ALL WOULD SAY YES OR NO.

Y'ALL WOULD AGREE OR NOT AGREE.

THEN IF Y'ALL AGREE THEN WE'LL GO ON TO BOND, WE WOULD COME BACK AND DO PUBLIC FORUMS IN JANUARY, DEBATE UP TO THE PUBLIC, AND THEN HOPEFULLY MOVE FORWARD.

>> THOSE ARE ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE FOR NOW. THANK YOU.

>> ANYTHING ELSE HERE ON MY LEFT? MR. MCMANUS AND THEN MRS. OROSCO.

>> A COUPLE OF THINGS. MAX, WHAT CONSTRUCTION INFLATION PERCENTAGE ARE YOU USING FOR THE WAY OUT STUFF?

>> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

IF YOU WERE TO DRILL DOWN INTO THE SPREADSHEET, FOR INSTANCE, THE ONE THAT STICKS IN MY MIND IS ON THE 2026 BOND, THAT HIGH-SCHOOL NUMBER, I THINK I'M USING 12 PERCENT ACROSS THE BOARD AND I HAD A CONVERSATION

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WITH SOME FOLKS AT HOW IT COULD BE AND WHAT IF IT WOULD BE WONDERFUL IF WE'VE SEEN THE TOP? IF THAT 12 PERCENT REALLY SHOULD BE SEVEN PERCENT AGAIN, OR EIGHT OR NINE, THAT MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE IN THOSE OUT YEARS.

>> COUPLE OF MORE QUICK THINGS. ONE IS, WITH JESSICA TALKING TONIGHT, MS. BEDWELL, I'M WONDERING IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE I KNOW WE'RE SKIPPING '24 ON HERE AS THE PRIORITY LIST IS BUILT OUT.

WOULD IT MAKE MORE SENSE RATHER THAN ASKING THE VOTERS FOR ALL OF THIS IN '23, BUT TO SAY, WE CAN REALLY DO '23, '24, '25 AND SPREAD THAT OUT AMONGST THOSE THREE YEARS AND MAKE THEM MORE MANAGEABLE CHUNKS, JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT.

YOU AND FBOC CAN WORK THAT OUT.

I WORRY A LITTLE BIT IF WE'RE GOING EVERY YEAR, THERE SHOULD MAYBE SOME BOND FATIGUE THAT COULD HAPPEN.

THERE'S THAT SIDE OF THE COIN AS WELL.

THEN THE LAST THING IN MY MIND HAVING BEEN THROUGH THIS SEVERAL TIMES NOW IS, IT'S NOT YOUR INTENT BY PUTTING THIS ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT THAT WE GO THROUGH AND PICK AND CHOOSE THE THINGS THAT WE PERSONALLY AS BOARD MEMBERS LIKE.

THE ADMIN IS PRESENTING THE FBOC AND IT WILL COME TO US EVENTUALLY LOOKING LIKE AN ELECTION ORDER SEPARATED INTO THE LEGAL BUCKETS IT NEEDS TO BE AND WE WOULD DEBATE THOSE THINGS AT THAT TIME.

IS THAT THE INTENT OF WHAT WE'RE DOING?

>> THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST WHERE THEY'VE RANKED THEM FOR US.

BUT MR. SEVERANCE HAD A RECOMMENDATION TO PURCHASE THE BOARD TO JUST SEE THE FULL PLATE AND I THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT IDEA FOR US TO UNDERSTAND.

JUST FROM MY OWN PERSPECTIVE, I FEEL LIKE THE LAST FEW BONDS, MR. ROMANUS, I'VE KNOWN WHAT THEY WERE GOING TO BE.

THIS ONE I FEEL IS A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

>> NO, I LOVE SEEING THE LIST.

I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU WANTED EACH ONE OF US TO GO THROUGH AND SAY, I LIKE THIS ONE, I DON'T LIKE THIS ONE.

>> NO, BUT IF YOU SEE SOMETHING GLARINGLY MISSING THERE, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS, MAYBE THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO SAY THAT.

>> JUST ANYTIME I SEE THE WORD TOUGH, MARK HARRISON'S UP ON THE BACK OF MY NECK A LITTLE BIT, SO I WAS GOING TO THROW THAT OUT THERE.

THAT WILL BE QUITE A HEALTHY CONVERSATION WE HAVE AT SOME POINT, BUT PROBABLY NOT TONIGHT.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU.

>> WELL, WE'VE HAD PLENTY OF THOSE AND I STRONGLY RECOMMEND ANYONE NEW IN OUR DISTRICT GO BACK AND LISTEN TO THOSE MEETINGS, AND THEY MIGHT KNOW HOW THIS WILL END.

[LAUGHTER] YES. ANYTHING ELSE MR. SEVERANCE? MRS. OROSCO, AND THEN MR. SEVERANCE.

>> A COUPLE OF THINGS. THANK YOU MR. SEVERANCE FOR ASKING FOR THEM TO SHOW US THE WHOLE THING.

WHEN WE TALK ABOUT PRIORITIES, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD TASK THE FBOC TO PRIORITIZE THAT FOR US, THAT NEEDS TO BE PRIORITIZED BY ADMINISTRATION BECAUSE THEY ARE IN THE TRENCHES.

THEY KNOW FROM THEIR PEOPLE WHAT IS DEFINITELY A PRIORITY AND WHAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN CARE OF.

I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR IN WHAT I WANT TO SEE.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE ADMINISTRATION PRIORITIZES IT AND THEN TAKES IT TO FBOC.

SOMETIMES WE'RE DOING THAT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

WE WERE DOING THAT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

I JUST WANT TO SPECIFY HERE, I WANT TO BE VERY SPECIFIC WHEN I SAY WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT PRIORITIES ADMINISTRATION SHOULD BE MAKING THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS AND THEN FBOC SEEKING, CUT THAT UP, HOW THEY NEED TO.

BUT THE EXPERTS ON OUR EDUCATIONAL NEEDS AND HOW THIS IMPACTS IS OUR ADMINISTRATION.

I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT.

THE SECOND THING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, ALL OF THIS IS CONTINGENT ON CONVERSATIONS ALSO.

WE HAVE EXPANSIONS FOR ALL THE HIGH SCHOOLS.

BUT AGAIN, THAT GOES IF WE DON'T DECIDE TO BUILD A HIGH SCHOOL FOR; IS THAT CORRECT?

>> ACTUALLY, NO. I ACTUALLY HEARD AND I HEARD CAPACITY AND HIGH SCHOOL FOURTH, IS WHAT I HEARD.

>> HEARD FROM?

>> WHEN I WAS LISTENING AT THE COMMITTEE AFTER WE PRESENTED IT FROM A STAFF EFFORT, STAFF PRESENTED THE IDEA.

WHAT ABOUT SOME ADDITIONAL CAPACITY IN THE COMMITTEE SAID WE'D LIKE TO HEAR MORE ABOUT THE CAPACITY IDEA, BUT IT'S CAPACITY AND THE FOURTH HIGH SCHOOL WE DON'T WANT TO BE LIKE.

>> I DEFINITELY WANT TO SEE, AND I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THAT INFORMATION RIGHT NOW.

WHAT THE DEMOGRAPHER SAYS, DO WE NEED AN END OR DO WE NEED AN OWE? THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.

WE MIGHT WANT IT, DOESN'T MEAN WE NEED IT.

I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE DATA LOOKS LIKE BECAUSE I LIKE TO MAKE DECISIONS BASED ON DATA AND NOT EMOTION.

IF YOU CAN PLEASE SHARE THAT DATA, THAT INFORMATION, THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.

THEN I DID HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION ABOUT THE THEATER RENOVATION, MAKING IT TO SEAT 500-750 FOLKS FOR THIS LAHMAN THEATER?

>> I'VE BEEN TO THE THEATER SEVERAL TIMES FOR HAYES HIGH SCHOOL AND I HAD ON THE JOHNSON,

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I DON'T REMEMBER ANY OF THEM HOLDING 500-750.

IS THIS A FIRST OF ITS KIND?

>> YES, THAT WOULD BE TO CONSTRUCT ONE.

>> DO WE NEED SEATING FOR 500-750 PEOPLE PER THEATER, PER HIGH-SCHOOL? IS IT LIKE A MINI PACK?

>> THAT'S THE RECOMMENDATION FROM PATTY AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT.

I THINK SHE'S HERE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT.

>> I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR WHAT HER VISION AND THINKING IS BEHIND THAT AND DOING 500-750 SEATS SPACE AT EVERY HIGH SCHOOL.

I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR IT.

>> MS. PATTY MODENA WAS COMING UP TO THE PODIUM.

>> HOLD ON.

>> MS. MODENA, I DON'T MEAN TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT IF YOU WANT TO TELL ME LATER OR GET MORE INFORMATION TO US, I JUST WANT THE JUSTIFICATION FOR THAT BECAUSE THAT'S HUGE, 500-750 PEOPLE.

IS IT GOING TO BE UTILIZED JUST BY THEATER? IS IT GOING TO BE UTILIZED? ANYBODY CAN BOOK IT.

LIKE I SAID, A MINI PACK? IF YOU CAN, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GIVE ME ALL INFO HERE.

>> I'M INTERESTED TO KNOW BECAUSE WE'RE ONLY DOING IT FOR LAHMAN AND NOT FOR JOHNSON AND HAYS.

THAT'S GOING TO CREATE ISSUES.

>> THERE MIGHT BE A PHASE-IN.

I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT.

>> SORRY.

LONG-TERM VISION, WE HAVE ONE PERFORMING ARTS CENTER THAT HOLDS 975 SEATS, AND IT'S USED FOR A LOT OF THE CURRENT PACK, REGIONAL UIL, REGION 18 MUSIC EVENTS, AND SO GRAND REALLY BIG EVENT THAT INVOLVE HAYS CISD AND AUSTIN ISD DRIPPING SPRINGS.

ALL THE DISTRICTS IN REGION 18 COME TOGETHER FOR THAT PERFORMING ARTS CENTER.

MY LONG-TERM VISION GOAL IS FOR EACH HIGH SCHOOL TO HAVE ONE OF THESE CAMPUS AUDITORIUMS SO THAT THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS COULD COME AND GIVE CONCERTS THERE AND THEATER PERFORMANCE.

IT'S NOT JUST FOR THEATER; IT COULD BE USED FOR DANCE AND FOR MUSIC PROGRAMS AND THEATER AND A VARIETY OF THINGS.

THAT WAY, THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS COME UP TO THEIR HIGH SCHOOLS AND WE HAVE MORE VERTICAL ALIGNMENT.

THEY'RE USED TO PERFORMING THERE, AND WE CAN BUILD PROGRAMS THAT WAY.

BUT I CAN PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION IN A WRITE-UP FOR YOU.

>> YES, WHAT YOU SEE LIKE.

LAHMAN'S FIRST, WHERE DOES JOHNSON FIT IN? WHEN WOULD THAT HAPPEN? WHEN DOES HAZE, AND SO ON? MAYBE YOU PUT MANY PACK IN PARENTHESES.

>> IN CAMPUS AUDITORIUM AS OPPOSED TO THE PACK.

>> YES. BECAUSE WHEN IT JUST SAYS THEATER, YOU'RE LIKE 500-700.

DO WE REALLY HAVE 500-750 PEOPLE THAT GO TO A THEATER PERFORMANCE? I'VE BEEN TO PLENTY AND I'VE NEVER SEEN THAT HERE.

MORE INFORMATION WILL BE GREAT.

THANK YOU. BUT I LIKED HAVING THAT VISION.

THAT'S ALWAYS GREAT TO HAVE.

YES. MR. CLEAVER? DEFINITELY WANT TO KNOW WHO BROUGHT THIS TURF STUFF UP AGAIN.

>> A RECOMMENDATION FROM MR. MOFFETT?

>> YES, MA'AM. THE ATHLETIC DEPARTMENT DID A REALLY GREAT JOB PUTTING TOGETHER A SURVEY.

I'LL LET THEM TALK ABOUT IT, BUT IT TOUCHED LIKE 500 OR ALMOST 600 STUDENTS, STAFF, AND PARENTS.

>> THEY ARE HERE TOO?

>> MR. LANCE MOFFETT IS HEADED TO THE PODIUM TO TALK ABOUT THE ATHLETIC SIDE OF THIS.

>> COME ON UP.

>> I LOVE IT.

FIRST, THANK YOU, MS. MEDINA AND MR. MOFFETT, FOR BEING HERE AND BEING ABLE TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS ON THE SPOT. LOVE IT.

>> NO PROBLEM. WE STARTED A SURVEY AT OUR COACHES' CONVENIENCE.

WE SURVEYED THROUGH OUR GOOGLE CLASSROOM.

WE CREATED A GOOGLE CLASSROOM FOR ALL OF OUR COACHES.

WE SENT THAT SURVEY OUT TO ALL OF THE HEAD COACHES AS THEY WANTED TO FALL.

THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO SEND THAT OUT TO ALL OF THEIR PARENT GROUPS THROUGH THEIR MEDIUM, OR WHATEVER IT IS THEY COMMUNICATE WITH THEIR PARENT GROUPS.

WE'VE HAD OVER 500 RESPONSES AND OF THAT, WE HAVEN'T PRESENTED THAT TO THE FBOC YET.

BUT WE USED THE SIX ITEMS THAT WERE ON THIS LIST, AND THEN AS WE TALKED TO COACHES ALL OVER THE DISTRICT, WE HEARD OVER AND OVER AGAIN, "SPACE, SPACE, SPACE." WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH SPACE OR WE DON'T HAVE SPACE.

WE'RE ALWAYS SHARING SPACE.

WE ADDED A SIXTH ITEM, WHICH WAS THE INDOOR ALL-PURPOSE SPACE, WHICH IS BASICALLY ANOTHER GYM.

HAYES HIGH SCHOOL HAS THREE GYMS. JOHNSON DOES NOT, LAHMAN DOES NOT.

THERE'S A SPACE ISSUE IN TERMS OF SHARING WITH FLAG, COLOR GUARD, DRILL, CHEER, ALL OF THOSE THINGS.

THAT WAS OUR SIXTH ITEM ON THE SURVEY.

WE HAD ALL THESE PEOPLE RANK THOSE ITEMS IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY FELT WAS MOST AND LEAST IMPORTANT.

WE BROKE IT DOWN. LIKE I SAID,

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WE HAVEN'T SHARED IT WITH THAT FBOC YET, BUT CERTAINLY WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO MAKE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS BASED ON THAT INFORMATION THAT WE GATHERED.

>> I'M SORRY, THE 600 PEOPLE THAT FILLED OUT THE SURVEY WERE WHO? STUDENTS?

>> COACHES, PARENTS, AND STUDENT ATHLETES, JUST THEM.

>> IT WILL IDENTIFY THEM AS SUCH?

>> YES MA'AM. THEY'RE IDENTIFIED AS SUCH.

>> THAT'LL BE SOME GOOD INFORMATION TO HAVE.

>> YES MA'AM.

>> TO SEE WHAT IS A PERCENTAGE OF OUR TAXPAYERS AND SO ON, AND HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT THAT AND OUT OF 600, HOW THEY RANKED IT.

THAT'S GOOD INFORMATION TO SHARE.

THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT.

>> YOU BETTER.

>> I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT, BUT TURF IS THERE.

IS GOING TO BE AN INTERESTING SUBJECT TO DISCUSS.

I'M GLAD YOU'RE HAVING THAT DISCUSSION.

>> CERTAINLY. WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF A DROUGHT, SO IT'S BECOME AN ISSUE AS WELL.

THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE NOTICED IN THE SURVEY.

ONE OF OUR WATER BOARD DISTRICTS ONLY ALLOWED US TO WATER ONCE A WEEK AND SO THAT MIDDLE SCHOOL FIELD IS UNPLAYABLE AT THIS TIME, SO WE'RE MOVING THEM OVER TO LAHMAN TO PLAY THEIR GAMES.

I THINK DAWSON WAS PLAYING THEIR GAMES AT JOHNSON FOR A SIMILAR SITUATION.

>> IT'S A DIFFERENT TIME, ESPECIALLY WITH THIS DROUGHT THAT WE'VE BEEN FACING IN THE EXTREME TEMPERATURES AND SO ON.

>> YES MA'AM.

>> IT'LL BE INTERESTING TO SEE HOW IT ALL SHAKES OUT.

THANK YOU, MR. MOFFETT.

THEN MR. CLEAVER, I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT HVAC AND THESE CYCLE REPLACEMENT.

I THINK WE'VE BEEN PRETTY CONSISTENT WITH SOME HVAC MAPPING IT OUT, SEEING HOW TO DO HVAC.

HOWEVER, I KNOW THERE'S STILL SO MANY ISSUES WITH OUR HVAC SYSTEMS THAT SHOULD BE WORKING.

I KNOW WE'VE HAD SOME RENOVATIONS, AND I CAN DO THAT FOR REQUESTS FOR INFORMATION AND JUST A LITTLE BIT.

BUT I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT HVAC BECAUSE WE CONTRACT THAT OUT TOO.

I KNOW WE HAD ISSUES BEFORE WHERE THE COUPLE OF VENDORS WHEN YOU FIRST CAME ON BOARD AND THEY HAD TO REDO HIM PILL AND ALL OF THAT?

>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE SOME REALLY GOOD FOLKS WORKING ON HVAC BECAUSE HVAC IS SO IMPORTANT FOR THE COMFORT OF OUR STUDENTS TO LEARN AND OUR STAFF.

DEFINITELY I HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT HVAC RENOVATIONS THERE.

THEN I AM GLAD TO SEE THAT TOM GREEN AND KYLE ELEMENTARY, WHO HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR SOME IMPROVEMENTS THAT THEY ARE ON THE LIST.

I KNOW LAST TIME WE MET LAST WEEK.

HAVE YOU HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO ILT, DR. WRIGHT, OR MAX CLEAVER TO CONVEY TO THE PRINCIPLES THAT THEY MUST SPEAK NOW BECAUSE THIS PROCESS IS GOING TO BE FAST AND FURIOUS?

>> I HAVEN'T SPOKEN WITH ILT. NO, MA'AM.

>> HOW ABOUT MS. SYLVIA? HAS SHE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY?

>> SHE IS SAYING NO.

>> BECAUSE WE'RE GOING FAST.

>> I ALSO THINK, JUST IN GENERAL THOUGH, THE ENVIRONMENT HAS CHANGED.

WE SEEM TO COMMUNICATE BETTER NOW THAN SAY, THREE YEARS AGO.

THAT'S JUST ME. I THINK WE GET THE INFORMATION THAT WE NEED.

I THINK THINGS FOR FUNNELING THE RIGHT WAY.

>> WE'RE JUST GIVING A HIGH-LEVEL OVERVIEW TONIGHT.

TYPICALLY, WE DON'T DO THIS.

AT OUR NEXT SCHEDULE CHARGE THE FBOC WITH MOVING FORWARD, THEN WE'LL GO TO THE ILT AND THEN WE'LL SAY, HEY, WE'VE BEEN CHARGED, WE NEED TO GET YOUR LIST AND THEN WE'LL START PUTTING IT TOGETHER.

AS MAX CALLS IT, MAKE THE SAUSAGE AND THEN PRIORITIZE AND WE'LL HAVE A LIST OF ITEMS THAT WE FEEL ARE MOST PRESSING ON DOWN.

THEN THE FBOC WILL BE ABLE TO RANK THOSE AND THEN WE'LL BRING THOSE BACK TO YOU.

>> WHAT ARE THESE IN GREEN?

>> THESE ARE THINGS THAT, BASED ON THE DEMOGRAPHERS' REPORT THAT WE FEEL WE WERE GOING TO NEED AS FAR AS THE SCHOOL SITES AND THEN THE ATHLETICS AND FINE ARTS PEOPLE HAVE BEEN WORKING.

IT STARTED LAST YEAR WITH MS. MODENA AND COACH WESTERBERG IN THOSE ITEMS. SOME OF THEM DIDN'T PASS TWO YEARS AGO IN THEIR SEPARATE PROPOSITIONS, SO THEY WERE BROUGHT BACK AND IT'S JUST A FURTHER CONVERSATION FROM THAT TIME.

>> IT'S A SKELETON WITH INPUT FROM FINE ARTS AND ATHLETICS? IS THAT FAIR TO SAY? GREAT. THEN WE'LL GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO.

YOU ALL WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO IN FRONT OF ILT AND SOLICIT SOME MORE.

WHAT ARE YOUR PRIORITIES? WHAT ARE THOSE NEEDS? BECAUSE I KNOW AS WE'RE TAKING THESE TOURS WE'RE HEARING A LOT OF FEEDBACK NOW AFTER TAKING THESE TOURS OF THESE EXPANSIONS,

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OF THESE NEW ELEMENTARIES, THE NEW BUILT, THE NEW CONSTRUCTION.

WE'RE HEARING A LOT OF INPUT NOW.

I'VE TOLD SOME OF THEM.

IT'S ALREADY BUILT, IT'S ALREADY DONE.

IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO GIVE THAT FEEDBACK NOT ONLY DURING THIS PROCESS, BUT WHEN THEY'RE MEETING WITH STAKEHOLDERS.

IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO SHARE THAT INPUT THEN AND NOT WAIT UNTIL IT'S DONE BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO BE TOO LATE.

JUST TRYING TO CONVEY THAT MESSAGE.

THANK YOU. OH AND MR. CLEAVER, SOME OTHER THINGS ARE COMING UP THAT YOU'LL BE WORKING WITH? [OVERLAPPING]. THANK YOU.

>> MR. SEVERANCE?

>> GREAT. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.

FIRST OF ALL, MAX, THANK YOU VERY MUCH DR. WRIGHT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BRINGING THIS HIGH LEVEL VIEW TO US.

I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.

I DO HAVE A COUPLE JUST GENERAL COMMENTS I'LL LIKE TO START OFF WITH.

ONE OF THEM IS JUST I WANT TO READ PART OF THE FBOC'S RESPONSIBILITIES.

IT SAYS PERIODIC REVIEWING LONG-RANGE FUTURE FACILITIES, MAJOR MAINTENANCE, AND LARGE CAPITAL EXPENSE PLANTS DEVELOPED BY ADMINISTRATION.

REVIEWING FUTURE FACILITY DESIGNS, IMPROVEMENTS, AND ADJUSTMENTS DEVELOPED BY ADMINISTRATION ON OUR NEW BOARD GOALS THAT WE JUST PASSED TONIGHT.

COMMUNICATING WITH THE COMMUNITY, NUMBER A OR LETTER A, RELAY INFORMATION ABOUT DISTRICT GOALS AND OBJECTIVES TO THE COMMUNITY.

I FEEL I'VE LIVED THIS FBOC LIFE MOST OF MY VOLUNTEER CAREER WITH HAYS CISD.

I'VE ALWAYS FELT IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WHICH Y'ALL ARE DOING TONIGHT IS THE FIRST STEP IN CHARGING THE FBOC WITH WORK.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT AS A DISTRICT, WE'RE GIVING THE FBOC SOME DIRECTION ON WHAT OUR DISTRICT PRIORITIES ARE.

I ALMOST WRONGLY SAID LIKE WHAT THE FBOC PRIORITIES ARE, BUT THAT MIGHT BE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOUR CABINET AND YOUR TEAM'S PRIORITIES ARE.

I REALLY THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE CHARGE THE FBOC TONIGHT AND THERE'S A FEW THINGS ON HERE.

MR. MOFFETT TALKED ABOUT EXPANSIONS AT ADDING A GYM AT OTHER GYM AT MAYBE JOHNSON OR AT LAHMAN HIGH SCHOOL.

I DON'T SEE THAT ON THE LIST HERE.

I KNOW MEET WITH THE ILTS AFTER WHICH IF WE CHARGED TONIGHT TO SEE THAT LIST.

I JUST THINK THAT WE NEED TO GIVE THE FBOC SOME DIRECTION TONIGHT AS FAR AS WHAT THE DISTRICT'S PHILOSOPHY IS WITH EXPENSING OF THE HIGH SCHOOLS.

I SEE ON THE LIST THAT WE WANT TO TAKE OUR CAPACITY TO 3,000 CAMP STUDENTS ON EACH HIGH SCHOOL.

CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE ABOUT THAT PHILOSOPHY AND WHY THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT FOR OUR DISTRICT GOING FORWARD.

>> FOR EFFICIENCY PURPOSES, WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT OTHER SCHOOLS THAT WE COMPETE WITH, AND YOU LOOK AT MASTER SCHEDULING, IF YOU GET TO THAT 2800-3000 VERSUS THE 2100-2200 RANGE, YOU CAN CREATE A MASTER SCHEDULE WHERE TEACHERS ONLY HAVE ONE PREPARATION INSTEAD OF HAVING MULTIPLE PREPARATIONS.

YOU HAVE A MORE EFFICIENT MASTER SCHEDULE AND ALSO YOU'RE ABLE TO GET MORE OUT OF YOUR MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION BUDGET.

INSTEAD OF HAVING TO TOTALLY REPLICATE ALL OF YOUR ADMIN, ALL OF YOUR CHILD NUTRITION, YOU JUST HAVE TO ADD ANOTHER COUPLE OF COUNSELORS, ANOTHER COUPLE OF ASSISTANT PRINCIPALS, AND OTHER SECURITY INSTEAD OF ADDING THE ENTIRE BODY OF ADMIN AND AUXILIARY STAFF AROUND.

THAT'S IMPORTANT. THEN I'M NOT SURE WHEN THE 2250 CAME ABOUT, BUT BACK THEN FOR YOUR COMPETITION WITH FINE ARTS AND WITH ATHLETICS, 2250 USED TO BE THE HIGH-END OF 5A.

IT MADE YOU THE BIG FISH IN A SMALL POND.

NOW IT'S THE VERY BOTTOM END OF 6A.

IT PUTS YOU AT A COMPETITIVE DISADVANTAGE FOR OUR KIDS IN ALL COMPETITIONS.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT PEOPLE THAT WE COMPETE WITH, BOTH IN MARCHING AND THEN IN ATHLETICS, MOST OF THE TEAMS THAT WIN ON A CONSISTENT BASIS ARE AROUND THAT 2800-3000 MARK.

LIKE TRAVIS HAS 3500, WESTLAKE HAS ABOUT 2900.

CONVERSE JUDSON IS GOING TO HAVE AROUND 3000.

I CAN JUST GO ON AND ON.

YOU DON'T WANT TO GET MUCH BIGGER THAN THAT BECAUSE THEN YOU HAVE A SECURITY ISSUE, AND YOU HAVE TOO MANY STUDENTS ON A CAMPUS.

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BUT FROM WHAT I CAN UNDERSTAND, THE SWEET SPOT FOR BOTH, MAKING SURE THAT ALL STUDENTS ARE CARED FOR AND VALUED IS AROUND THAT 2800-3000, VERSUS THE 2250, YOU LOSE YOUR [INAUDIBLE] EFFICIENCY, AND YOUR MASTER SCHEDULING EFFICIENCY AND YOUR COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE.

>> THANK YOU. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO TALK ABOUT BECAUSE WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EXPANSION OF THE HIGH SCHOOLS AND THEN TALKING ABOUT HIGH SCHOOL NUMBER 4.

WITH OUR DEMOGRAPHERS REPORT THAT WE HAVE NOW, WHAT I HAVE TO LOOK AT, IT SHOWS THAT WE KNOW THAT JOHNSON HIGH SCHOOL AS OF TODAY IS OVER BUDGET.

I THINK THAT HAPPENED REALLY FAST, I THINK FASTER THAN WE WOULD'VE THOUGHT, OR WE PROBABLY WOULD HAVE MAYBE ADDRESSED IT ON THE LAST BOND.

BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID, I SEE ON THIS LIST THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EXPANDING, OF COURSE, HAYES HIGH SCHOOL AS WELL AND LAHMAN, TO GET TO THAT 3000 MARK.

HOWEVER, THE PROJECTED DATES AREN'T GOING TO BE OUT UNTIL 2030.

I'M NOT SURE IF THESE NUMBERS REFLECT THE 12 PERCENT INFLATION ALL THE WAY TO 2030.

>> YES, SIR. THEY DO.

>> REAL QUICK. JOHNSON HIGH SCHOOL RENOVATION HAS IT AT 43 MILLION, AND THEN LAHMAN HIGH SCHOOL RENOVATION HAS 69 MILLION.

THEN HAYES HIGH SCHOOL RENOVATION IS 61 MILLION.

I FEEL LIKE 12 PERCENT A YEAR FOR NINE YEARS IS MORE THAN 69 MILLION, UNLESS I'M REALLY BAD AT MATH.

>> I WILL CERTAINLY CHECK IT. I'M PRETTY SURE THAT'S IT, BUT I WILL ABSOLUTELY CHECK THAT.

>> THEN DO WE RUN A RISK OF BONDING DOLLARS NOW FOR A PROJECT THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN 2030, LIKE WE'RE GOING THROUGH JUST RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE WHO KNOWS WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN? DO WE RUN THAT RISK OF BONDING IT NOW AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN WE'RE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS SHORT BECAUSE OF SOME UNFORESEEN FUTURE?

>> YES, SIR. WHAT I'M SEEING DISTRICTS DO IS ACTUALLY PUTTING JUST A CONTINGENCY IN THE BOND ITSELF, LIKE A LINE ITEM IN THE BOND AS A CONTINGENCY.

NOT JUST IN EACH PROJECT, BUT A BOND CONTINGENCY, THAT'S ALSO A POSSIBILITY.

THE MAIN THING ON THAT ONE IS THAT WE JUST KNOW WE NEED TO SELL IT TOGETHER.

IN OTHER WORDS, DOES ONE SIZE FIT ALL? IN OTHER WORDS, DO YOU JUST EXPAND JOHNSON AND OTHER SCHOOLS STAY THE SAME SIZE? THAT'S NOT WHAT WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT.

IT'S THAT ALL THE SCHOOLS GET EXPANDED.

I THINK IF IT WOULD HAVE TO BE SOLD TOGETHER, BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO SELL THE BONDS NOW.

>> NO. I COMPLETELY AGREE.

I JUST THINK THAT WE'RE DOING A DISSERVICE TO THE TAXPAYERS IF WE'RE SELLING A BOND 10 YEARS OUT, AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ACTUAL COST IS GOING TO BE.

I'M NOT SURE IF THERE'S A WAY THAT WE JUST MOVE THOSE ITEMS DOWN THE LIST BASED ON WHAT THE DEMOGRAPHER'S REPORT SAYS WHEN THAT ITEM NEEDS TO OPEN.

BECAUSE YOU KNOW ME, WE DON'T WANT TO BE LATE, BUT I ALSO THINK THIS IS A LITTLE BIT TOO EARLY TOO.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOU GUYS GET TOGETHER AND TALK ABOUT THAT AND HOW THAT RELATES TO WHAT THE FPLC SHOULD BE LOOKING AT.

IF IT'S SELLING IT AS A WHOLE OR IF WE SHOULD MOVE SOME OF THOSE ITEMS DOWN THE LIST, WE'RE DOWN TO OTHER BONDS JUST TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT INFLATION.

ESPECIALLY SINCE THE ENROLLMENT NUMBERS THAT WE HAVE NOW PUTS THE NEEDS FOR HAYS AND LAHMAN A FEW YEARS DOWN THE ROAD.

>> WAY DOWN. NOW, LAHMAN THOUGH, LIKE DR. WRIGHT WAS SAYING, WE DO REALLY NEED TO WATCH CAMINO REAL AND WATER STONE BECAUSE THAT IS 17,000 LOTS THAT HAVE ZEROS IN THEM RIGHT NOW.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE ZEROS ARE INDEED STILL 10 YEARS OUT BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.

>> THAT WOULD BE FOUR THIS.

[OVERLAPPING] 17 CONSTRUCTION LIKE THAT?

>> WATER STONE AND CAMINO BOTH FED INTO LAHMAN.

>> LAHMAN.

>> THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT NUMBER.

>> THANK YOU, PATTY, FOR COMING TO US.

I'M NOT SURE, WE HAVE THE PACK THAT WE BONDED THAT FACILITY.

OTHER DISTRICTS ARE USING THAT OR OTHER ENTITIES ARE USING THAT.

SOME OF OUR REASON FOR WANTING TO EXPAND IS BECAUSE OF THAT.

DO WE HAVE TO LET OTHER DISTRICTS RESERVE THAT SPACE FOR US?

>> JUST FOR COMPETITIONS. OTHER DISTRICTS DON'T USE IT VERY OFTEN.

>> BUT I KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT ABLE TO USE THAT SPACE FOR PLAYS AND STUFF BECAUSE IT'S JUST BOOKED.

ALL THE TIME IT'S JUST BOOKED.

>> IT'S BOOKED.

>> WE'RE HAVING TO TURN AWAY COMMUNITY GROUPS AND PARTNERS, WHICH IS UNFORTUNATE.

MAYBE IF WE HAD MORE CAPACITY IN OUR HIGH SCHOOLS FOR MIDDLE SCHOOL COMPETITIONS, AND MIDDLE SCHOOL CHOIR, AND MIDDLE SCHOOL BAND AND MARIACHI AND ALL OF THE THINGS THAT THEY USED THE PARK FOR,

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WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO OPEN IT BACK UP TO COMMUNITY PARTNERS.

BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S PRETTY TIGHT.

>> I LOVE IT. I THINK IT'S GREAT.

I THINK WE'RE EXPANDING OUR OPPORTUNITY ON EACH HIGH SCHOOL, CAMPUS, TO SUPPORT THOSE EVENTS AS IMPORTANT.

HOW DO WE RANK WHICH CAMPUSES WE START WITH WITH THAT? I WOULD LOVE TO SAY THAT LAHMAN, I THINK THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF STUFF WE COULD DO AT LAHMAN THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.

ONE TIME, THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME, BUT THEN HOW ARE YOU PRIORITIZING THE FPLC ON WHAT ITEM, ON WHERE IT NEEDS TO LIVE AND HOW IT NEEDS TO COME ONLINE? BECAUSE IF WE'RE EXPANDING JOHNSON, IS IT ALSO AS EASY TO EXPAND TO DO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

I DON'T WANT TO GO BACK AND WORK ON THE SAME CAMPUS JUST LIKE EVERY THREE YEARS TO DO STUFF.

I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THE DISTRICT'S PHILOSOPHY ON THAT AS FAR AS CAMPUS REFRESHES.

THERE'S JUST SO MANY ELEMENTS AT LIVING ON THE FPLC THAT SOME DIRECTION FROM THE ADMINISTRATION OF HOW TO RANK THOSE ITEMS, THE FPLC CAN BE LASER-FOCUSED ON WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO THE ADMINISTRATION IS WHAT I'M REALLY TRYING TO GET OUT OF TONIGHT.

NOT WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO BYRON SEVERANCE BOARD MEMBER, I WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO THE DISTRICT AS FAR AS ALL OF THESE PROJECTS AND HOW THEY RANK OUT.

BUT I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS ON HERE THAT ARE REALLY IMPORTANT.

I KNOW MR. MOFFETT, I KNOW WITH THE OUTDOOR PAVILIONS, THE WAIT ROOMS, THE TURF AND ALL THE BASEBALL, SOFTBALL COMPLEXES.

THERE'S A LOT TO GO THERE.

BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WHEN YOU'RE MEETING WITH THE FPLC, YOU'RE SAYING, "OKAY, ATHLETICS, THIS IS OUR PRIORITY WITH ATHLETICS TO THE FPLC." THEY KNOW WHAT DIRECTION WE WANT OUR DISTRICT TO GO IN, NOT JUST THE FPLC.

SOMEONE ON THE FPLC THAT MIGHT SAY THINGS LOUDER THAN OTHER PEOPLE IN THE FPLC MIGHT DRIVE ALL THE NARRATIVES.

I THINK THE DIRECTION FROM MAX AND DR. WRIGHT IS REALLY IMPORTANT.

WELL, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE ADMINISTRATOR WANTS US TO DO.

I DON'T WANT TO BABBLE ANYMORE ABOUT THIS, BUT I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS WITH US TONIGHT, AND THEN YOU GUYS RANK THE PRIORITY OF THESE ITEMS FOR THE FPLC AND THE PHILOSOPHY OF OUR HIGH SCHOOLS AND OUR PHILOSOPHY OF WHY I DON'T SEE A BOND IN 2024.

I DON'T SEE THAT ON THE LIST.

I KNOW MR. MCMANUS ASKED AND MS. BEDWELL ASKED ABOUT, WILL SMALLER BONDS, 23, 24 OR 25.

I DON'T SEE A 24.

>> THAT WAS INTENTIONAL.

IN CABINET DISCUSSIONS, FOR GOOD OR BAD OR WHATEVER, WE DID NOT PUT ONE IN 24 AS TO NOT BUMP INTO THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION YEAR.

>> GOOD. I UNDERSTAND, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE JUST LET EVERYONE KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING.

MAX, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.

I KNOW YOU'VE GOT A TON OF STUFF GOING ON.

YOU HAVE A MILLION PROJECTS GOING ON.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING THAT SHOWS UP ON THE LIST FOR THE FPLC NEEDS TO BE DIRECTED BY THE ADMINISTRATION ON WHY IT'S IMPORTANT THAT IT'S ON THE LIST.

BYRON SEVERANCE ON THE FPLC THINKS THAT WE NEED A WIDGET STADIUM AT BUTTE ELEMENTARY.

THAT NEEDS TO COME FROM THE DISTRICT AND WHAT THE DISTRICT NEEDS AND GOALS TO MAKE SURE ALL ARE IN LINE AND MAKE SURE THEY'RE ABLE TO TRACK TOWARDS.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, MR. SERRAS. MR. VELA?

>> YES. I HAD SOME QUESTIONS THAT WERE COMING UP AND I KNOW THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS FROM 30,000 FEET LEVEL OR SHOULD BE.

BUT THANK YOU FOR THE DETAILS, AND ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WAS BREWING IN MY MIND WAS ABOUT JOHNSON HIGH SCHOOL, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AN EXPANSION.

THIS WASN'T THE ORIGINAL PLAN FOR JOHNSON, BUT AS WE'RE GOING TO BE STRATEGIC IN ATHLETICS, FINE ARTS, AND JUST THE LEVERAGING OUR M&O FUNCTIONS, THAT'S JUST A CHANGE IN STRATEGY FROM WHEN THE SCHOOL WAS DESIGNED. THANK YOU.

>> ANYTHING ELSE, MS. OROSCO?

>> YEAH. I JUST WANT TO GO BACK TO MY COMMENT ABOUT THE PRIORITY LIST FROM FBOC.

I TOO AGREE THAT THE PRIORITY LIST NEEDS TO COME FROM ADMIN, BUT THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT THE FBOC HAS TO AGREE WITH THEIR LIST.

I CAME AND JOINED ON THE FBOC, AND I JOINED THE FBOC WHEN THERE WERE THINGS THAT, TOM GREEN, THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ON THE BOND THAT WEREN'T.

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WE WERE ABLE TO GET IT BACK ON.

I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT JUST BECAUSE YOU GET YOUR LIST, DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE TO AGREE WITH IT, AND YOU CAN CHOP THAT APART.

IT'S ALL I HAD TO SAY. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR MS. OROSCO.

I HAVE SOME COMMENTS, AND I MADE A BUNCH OF NOTES ON HERE.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TOM GREEN AND KYLE, AND SOMEONE MENTIONED HEMPHILL, BUT I THINK FUENTES PROBABLY SHOULD BE ON THAT LIST AS WELL.

THERE'S A NEW PRINCIPAL AT FUENTES, AND I KNOW THAT WE HAD A MUSIC MAGNET PROGRAM THERE UNDER MS. BUTCHER.

I DEFINITELY WANT THAT CAMPUS TO BE CARED FOR.

I KNOW THAT THEY GOT SOME NEW FLOORING AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT TOM GREEN GOT, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CARE ABOUT FINE ARTS AND ATHLETICS.

BUT I ALSO DON'T WANT ANOTHER SCIENCE LAB AT HAYES HIGH SCHOOL INCIDENT COME UP AGAIN, WHERE WE WERE SO FOCUSED ON THESE OTHER THINGS THAT A MAJOR CURRICULUM AND INSTRUCTION NEED WASN'T BROUGHT TO THE RIGHT PEOPLE.

I KNOW THE DAOS ARE HERE AND THEY'RE LISTENING TO EVERYTHING WE'RE SAYING.

HOPEFULLY OUR PRINCIPALS ARE LISTENING ONLINE.

MS. OROSCO BROUGHT UP HVAC.

I DON'T SEE BOILERS IN HERE, BUT I ASSUME THAT'S PART OF THAT.

>> IT REALLY NEEDS TO SAY MEP REPLACEMENT, MECHANICAL, ELECTRICAL AND PLUMBING.

ALSO IN THAT CATEGORY OVER TIME WOULD BE SOME OLD SEWER LINES AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WOULD NEED TO BE REPLACED.

IT REALLY NEEDS TO SAY MEP; MECHANICAL, ELECTRICAL, PLUMBING.

>> WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND, MAX, FOR YOUR TEAM TO DO AND FOR MAYBE FBOC, IS TO LOOK AT FACILITIES WHERE WE'RE SEEING MAINTENANCE REPORTS AND MAINTENANCE REQUESTS ON THE REGULAR FOR SOME OF THESE LARGER HVAC SYSTEMS AND BOILER SYSTEMS. I'M THINKING OF OLDER GYMS LIKE GRAHAM, RED, BAILS.

AT HAYES HIGH SCHOOL, I SUSPECT IF THEY HAVEN'T BEEN REPLACED IN AWHILE, THEY PROBABLY NEED TO BE, AND THOSE ARE NOT SEXY, BUT THEY'RE PROBABLY EXPENSIVE.

I WANT TO JUST MAKE SURE WE'RE CARING ABOUT OUR OLDER HIGH SCHOOL.

THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE REALLY NICE SCIENCE LABS.

MAN, IF THE GYM DOESN'T HAVE AC, WE'RE ALL GOING TO BE SAD ABOUT THAT.

>> THE APPROACH ON THAT IS, THE FIRST METRIC WE LOOK AT IS JUST THE AGE.

THEN WE GO TO THE RECORDS.

IN OTHER WORDS, THE AGE IS OFTEN PRETTY INDICATIVE, BUT THEN WE GO, THEY DON'T ALWAYS LAST 20 YEARS, AND SO THEN THAT'S THE WAY WE LOOK AT THE WORK ORDERS AS WELL.

>> I WAS JUST THINKING MAYBE SOME OF THESE WORK ORDERS THAT WE'RE SEEING IN EVERY YEAR, EVERY SIX MONTHS, WE'VE GOT TO DO THE SAME THING.

IT MIGHT BE TIME TO REPLACE.

>> LET'S TALK ABOUT TO MR. VELA'S POINT, THE JOHNSON.

MOST PEOPLE ARE LIKE WE SPENT $122 MILLION BUILDING THAT HIGH SCHOOL.

WHAT IN THE WORLD WOULD WE NEED A NEW BAND HALL FOR? WHY WOULD WE EVEN THINK ABOUT THE THEATER? WELL, I'LL TELL YOU WHY.

IT HAS THE SMALLEST BAND HALL IN THE DISTRICT.

IF YOU DIDN'T ALREADY KNOW THAT, I'M GOING TO TELL YOU RIGHT NOW THE SQUARE FOOTAGE AND I'M LOOKING AT PATTY, IS THE SMALLEST IN THE DISTRICT, AND THERE'S ABOUT 250 KIDS IN THAT BAND.

THERE'S 50 KIDS IN THE COLOR GUARD.

I HAVE NO IDEA WHERE THEY PUT THOSE COLOR GUARD PEOPLE BECAUSE THANKFULLY THEY HAVE TWO GYMS. I THINK THEY USE ONE OF THE GYMS FOR COLOR GUARD.

BUT THAT'S GOING TO BE ANOTHER ISSUE.

I LIKED THAT YOU'RE CALLING THIS A NEW REHEARSAL HALL BECAUSE IF THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH ORCHESTRA PEOPLE FOR ALL SIX PERIODS, WHICH THEY PROBABLY WON'T, COLOR GUARD PROBABLY COULD USE THAT REHEARSAL SPACE, AND I'M HOPING THAT THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO BE THE CASE.

THEY DON'T LIKE THE BLACK BOX DESIGN.

IT'S A PROBLEM. LAHMAN'S THEATER IS REALLY IN NEED OF REPAIRS.

IT IS VERY SMALL.

I HAVE SEEN MANY PLAYS THERE.

IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO DO ANYTHING COMPETITIVE THAT YOU'D WANT TO DO FOR UIL, THEIR ABILITY TO DO SET DESIGN AND ALL THE THINGS, AND I KNOW MS. MORENO WANTS TO DO TECH THEATER, AND I THINK THAT'S EVEN A CLASS I SAW KIDS SCHEDULES.

SHE HAD TECH THEATER ON HER SCHEDULE, WHICH IS GREAT, SO THE THEATER AT LAHMAN ABSOLUTELY NEEDS TO BE WORKED ON.

IN MY MIND IS WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT AS THE BOARD FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS.

BURDINE IS PRETTY GREAT AND WE JUST DID AN $80,000 UPGRADE TO BURDINE THEATER AT HAYES HIGH SCHOOL.

ALL THE LIGHTS, THE SOUND SYSTEM, AND I THINK THEY'RE FAIRLY HAPPY AS LONG AS THE AC WORKS.

BUT MS. STEWART, I'M SURE WILL WANT TO WEIGH IN ON WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S SUFFICIENT FOR HER.

BUT THAT BURDINE THEATER IS IT'S A FREESTANDING THEATER. IT'S PRETTY GREAT.

IT'S NOT A MINI PACK, NOT ANYWHERE CLOSE.

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I DO LIKE THE IDEA.

I'VE BEEN SAYING WE NEED ANOTHER PACK BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE UPSET IN THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY CANNOT USE OUR PACK ANYMORE, AND THEY'RE WILLING TO PAY TOP DOLLAR FOR OUR PACK AND THEY CAN'T GET IN.

I GET THOSE PHONE CALLS.

THE BLACK-BOX THING WHEN WE DO HIGH-SCHOOL NUMBER 4, I JUST WANT EVERYONE TO PUT IN THE BACK OF THEIR MIND WHEN WE LOOK AT THOSE SCHEMATIC DESIGNS FOR HIGH-SCHOOL NUMBER 4 WHENEVER THAT IS.

IF WHOEVER'S STILL HERE.

NO BORN BLACK BOXES.

MS. MORENO, SHE'S GOING TO CARE ABOUT IT, SO THERE'S THAT.

2024 MAY ELECTION IS NOT WHEN WE VOTE FOR PRESIDENT, SO TALK TO ME AGAIN WHY THAT MATTERS.

BECAUSE I'M UP FOR ELECTION THIS MAY WITH ALL THIS ATHLETIC, FINE ARTS, BUSINESS, AND NOBODY SEEM TO CARE ABOUT THAT.

TELL ME AGAIN YOUR PHILOSOPHY ON THIS.

>> THERE'S PARTS OF IT I DON'T UNDERSTAND.

BUT I WAS LISTENING TO MR. SAVOY AND I TRUST HIM.

>> WELL, HE'S NOT IN THE ROOM ANYMORE, SO LET'S TALK ABOUT HIM.

[LAUGHTER] HE IS PRETTY SMART WITH THE POLITICAL STRATEGY, [OVERLAPPING] YOU'RE RIGHT.

>> I DEFINITELY COULDN'T COME UP WITH SOMETHING LIKE THAT MYSELF.

>> WELL, MAYBE YOU SEND US SOMETHING.

I THINK THAT'S UP TO THE FBOC TO TALK ABOUT, BUT I JUST DON'T SEE WHY A MAY ELECTION WOULD BE A PROBLEM.

IF WE WERE TRYING TO DO IT IN NOVEMBER OR THIS IS THE SAME.

I MEAN, MAYBE THERE'S A PRIMARY IN THERE, BUT I DON'T THINK SO.

THERE'S USUALLY MARCH BECAUSE WE COULD BREAK THIS UP, AND THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS IN HERE THAT WE'RE NOT PLANNING TO DO TILL 2030, SO WHY NOT BREAK IT UP TO 2024? JUST A THOUGHT. I'M GLAD DR. WRIGHT WEIGHED ON THE PHILOSOPHY OF HIGH SCHOOLS, AND THIS IS GOOD TO KNOW FOR UIL PURPOSES, BUT ALSO LAND IS NOT CHEAP AROUND HERE.

SOME DISTRICTS LIKE FRISCO, FOR EXAMPLE, THEY DO LIKE EVERY HIGH SCHOOL, 1,700 PEOPLE, 1,700 KIDS.

THEY JUST HAVE A MILLION DIFFERENT LITTLE HIGH SCHOOLS ALL OVER.

THEN RIGHT UP THE ROAD YOU HAVE ALLEN ISD, AND THEY HAVE LIKE 7,000 KIDS AT ONE HIGH SCHOOL, AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'VE DECIDED TO DO.

LIKE TRAVIS IS GETTING TO THAT POINT.

THEY I THINK ARE GOING TO DO LIKE A FRESHMEN CENTER INSTEAD OF MAYBE A NEW HIGH SCHOOL.

THERE'S DIFFERENT PHILOSOPHIES TO THE HIGH SCHOOL MODEL, WHETHER IT'S SMALL, BIG.

I THE 3,000 AND I LIKE WHAT DR. WRIGHT SAID ABOUT THE 2,800-3,000.

BUT I DO WANT THIS BOARD TO WEIGH IN ON THE PHILOSOPHY BEHIND THAT.

ONCE YOU GET TO 3,000, I FEEL LIKE 6A YOU CAN BE COMPETITIVE IN THOSE THINGS.

THE MASTER SCHEDULE, ALL THE CTE PROGRAMS ARE NOT CHEAP.

THERE HAS BEEN TALK WHETHER WE DO A CTE CENTER VERSUS TRY TO PAY FOR ALL THESE CTE.

I THINK THAT SHIP HAS SAILED.

WE DID A THIRD HIGH SCHOOL. WE HAVE ALL THE CTE PROGRAMS. I DON'T THINK WE COULD BUILD A FOURTH HIGH SCHOOL AND SAY, SORRY, NOT SORRY, YOU HAVE TO DRIVE TO ANOTHER HIGH SCHOOL.

I THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO BUILD A FOURTH HIGH SCHOOL, IT NEEDS TO BE 3,000 BECAUSE WE JUST HAVE SO MANY DIFFERENT PROGRAMS THAT WE LIKE TO OFFER AND OUR COMMUNITY IS USED TO US OFFERING.

BUT AS WE GET IN THESE DISCUSSIONS, THIS PHILOSOPHY, I THINK THE BOARD CAN HELP GUIDE THAT.

BUT IT IS GOOD TO HEAR FROM DR. WRIGHT AS TO WHAT THE UIL NUMBERS ARE.

HE KNOWS MORE ABOUT THAT THAN I DO.

WAS ANYBODY ELSE LIKE FALL OUT OF THEIR CHAIR WHEN THEY SAW THE HIGH-SCHOOL DESIGN PIECE WERE 22 MILLION DOLLARS? SO WHAT DOES THAT GET US? FOR 22 MILLION DOLLARS?

>> THAT'S SIMPLY THE MATH AT SIX-AND-A-HALF PERCENT OF THAT 338 MILLION.

I WAS JUST PUTTING IN A FEE AND MULTIPLYING IT BY THE COST OF THE HIGH SCHOOL.

>> BUT THAT GETS US COMPLETE ARCHITECT DESIGN.

DOES THAT GET US ANY INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE MIGHT NEED TO PUT IN?

>> ANY WHAT, I'M SORRY?

>> INFRASTRUCTURE.

>> THAT GETS US THE DESIGN OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE WE NEED TO PUT IN, YES, MA'AM.

>> OKAY. COULD WE CONSIDER DOING SOME OF THAT IN ADVANCE? HERE'S WHY I ASK.

BECAUSE REMEMBER JOHNSON, WE RAN INTO EIGHT INCH PIPE. REMEMBER THAT?

>> THAT IS MY WHOLE POINT.

I WOULD LIKE TO GET WAY OUT AHEAD ESPECIALLY IF THE SITE HAPPENS TO BE THE SITE THAT'S IN TRAVIS COUNTY, THAT MIGHT BE A LONG LEAD TIME ON PERMITTING AND THINGS.

I'D LIKE TO HAVE AS MUCH RUNWAY AS I CAN ON THAT ONE.

>> THAT'S WHAT I WAS HOPING THAT THIS WOULD ENTAIL IS ALL THE THINGS WE MAY NOT KNOW WE'RE GOING TO RUN INTO IN PERMITTING.

>> I'M SORRY.

>> THAT'S WHAT I WAS HOPING WAS PART OF THIS, BUT 22 MILLION JUST SOUNDED LIKE A LOT OF MONEY PER PAPER.

>> THAT'S ALL THE WAY THROUGH CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS.

LITERALLY FOR THIS BOND, IF WE WERE JUST TRYING TO GET A SCHEMATIC DESIGN AND THE SITE PLAN, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO DO THE FULL FEE.

YOU COULD JUST GO THROUGH WHATEVER.

YOU COULD GO THROUGH SCHEMATIC DESIGN OR DESIGN DEVELOPMENT.

>> THAT'S SOMETHING I THINK THE FBOC CAN WEIGH IN ON AND MAYBE GIVE US SOME DIRECTION ON AND MAYBE HAVE OPTION A OR B. EAST-CENTRAL, WHERE'S THAT FOR ELEMENTARY 17? WHERE ARE YOU PROPOSING THAT?

>> WE'RE CURRENTLY LOOKING AT A SITE ON THE EXTENSION OF GRIST MILL ROAD.

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EAST-CENTRAL KYLE.

>> EAST-CENTRAL KYLES, BUT THE ROAD DON'T EXIST YET.

IT'S A FIELD RIGHT NOW.

>> I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO PANIC AS I SAY THIS OUT LOUD, BUT HOW DO WE REPLACE BUDA ELEMENTARY WITH A NEW ELEMENTARY? IS KYLE ELEMENTARY AT ANY DANGER OF NEEDING THAT RENOVATION?

>> NO, MA'AM. I HAVE NO INDICATION THAT THERE'S ANYTHING DANGEROUS AT KYLE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

>> THEY DON'T HAVE THE FLOOD DAMAGE AND THINGS LIKE THAT WHEN YOU'RE DONE WITH BUDA?

>> NO, MA'AM.

>> THAT'S GREAT. DO WE NEED TO BUY LAND IN THIS BOND?

>> WE STILL HAVE THE LAND PROCEEDS FROM THE 2021 BOND.

>> WELL, PRICES HAVE JUST GONE UP MAX.

>> THEY HAVE AND PART OF THE NEW DEMOGRAPHER, PART OF THEIR SERVICE IS SOME LONG-RANGE PLANNING.

THEY ARE GOING TO HELP ME PINPOINT THOSE SPOTS AND SO WE CERTAINLY COULD.

THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. I'LL WRITE THAT DOWN AND PUT THAT UP IN A HOPPER.

>> YEAH, JUST START PROSPECTING MAX.

WITH THE NEW DEMOGRAPHER WOULD BE GOOD BECAUSE WHAT I DON'T SEE ON HERE AND MAYBE I JUST MISSED IT, IS A MIDDLE-SCHOOL.

ARE WE GOING TO NEED A NEW MIDDLE SCHOOL ANYTIME SOON?

>> NO. I THINK IF WE CONTINUE THE PROCESS OF EXPANDING THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS, I THINK FOR NOW THAT WOULD GET US THROUGH THAT 10 YEAR PERIOD FOR SURE.

>> WE'RE LOOKING AT 1,000?

>> TWELVE HUNDRED-ISH.

>> TWELVE HUNDRED-ISH FOR THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS?

>> THAT WOULD BE SO. I'VE GOT THAT NOTE AS WELL.

THAT'S ANOTHER ADDITION THAT WE WILL BE ADDING ON THAT WALLACE MIDDLE SCHOOL ADDITION.

THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS ORIGINALLY PULLED OFF OF I BELIEVE THE 2020 BOND, WHICH BECAME THE 2021 BOND.

THE REASON I EVEN BRING THAT UP IS IF WE GO BACK TO THE DEMOGRAPHIC RECORD, THAT PARTICULAR BOND, I THINK IT WAS SHOWING THAT THE WALLACE WOULD BE OVER-CAPACITY IN LIKE '26 OR '27.

WELL, IT'S HERE NOW.

IT'LL PROBABLY BE MORE NEXT YEAR, SO IT ACCELERATED.

>> WOW. OKAY. WELL, WHAT DID YOU THINK ABOUT MS. PETREA'S IDEA OF A BOND PLANNER?

>> I LOVE IT.

>> NOW, WILL THAT REPLACE OUR BOND PROJECT MANAGER PERSON OR IS THAT DIFFERENT?

>> NO, THAT'S DIFFERENT PERSON.

PROJECT MANAGER IS ACTUALLY OUT ON-SITE, WORKING THE PROJECTS AND THE BOND PLANNER GETS TO MAKE THE SAUSAGE WITH THE FBOC. THEY DO A LOT OF WORK.

>> WOULD NATE WENSOWITCH STILL HAVE PLENTY TO DO?

>> I THINK THE BOND PLANNER WOULD WORK FOR NATE.

>> I WAS JUST JOKING THERE.

ALSO, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT, I KNOW OUR ARCHITECTS WILL OFFER SERVICES TO HELP PROMOTE THE BOND.

IT'S A LITTLE CONTROVERSIAL.

I DON'T KNOW IF THIS COMMUNITY HAS SEEN MUCH OF THAT.

I'VE CERTAINLY BEEN IN OTHER COMMUNITIES WHERE THEY'VE GOT A PACK, A POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE, NOT A PERFORMING ARTS CENTER, AND THEY GET OUT IN FRONT OF ALL OF THAT.

I KNOW OUR COMMUNICATIONS TEAM DOES A GREAT JOB OF THAT, BUT YOU GUYS RUN YOURSELVES RAGGED WITH THESE TAXPAYER TUESDAYS AND BOND TALKS AND ALL THIS STUFF.

MR. SAVOY IS COMING TO THE PODIUM, SO I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR YOUR OPINION ON USING SOME OF THESE SERVICES THAT ARE OFFERED TO US AS PART OF OUR ARCHITECTURE.

>> WE DON'T PROMOTE NOR DO WE MARKET A BOND, THAT IS ILLEGAL. WE CANNOT DO THAT.

>> WELL, I DIDN'T THINK WE DID EITHER.

>> WE PROVIDE INFORMATION TO VOTERS.

>> WE EDUCATE AND WE GO AROUND AND WE TALK TO THE COMMUNITY ABOUT IT.

>> YES, WE EDUCATE BY PROVIDING INFORMATION ON WHAT'S ON THERE, BUT WE CANNOT USE TAX DOLLARS TO PROMOTE OR MARKET OR ENCOURAGE ANYONE TO VOTE FOR OR AGAINST A CANDIDATE OR A MEASURE ON ANYTHING.

WE DO PROVIDE THE INFORMATION AND WE HAVE ALL OF THE RECORDS AND STUFF THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR TRANSPARENCY ON OUR WEBSITE.

>> SO COMMUNITY MEMBERS CAN CREATE PACK AND THAT THING?

>> I'VE SEEN THAT IN OTHER COMMUNITIES.

>> YEAH, LIKE THE BOND OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE WOULD BE NOT A FORMAL PACK.

THEY WOULD HAVE TO REGISTER IF YOU DEPLOY A POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE.

I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER IF THEY REGISTERED OR NOT.

WE'VE HAD A GROUP, I THINK THEY MAY HAVE REGISTERED IN THE 2017 BOND THAT WAS AGAINST IT BECAUSE THEY HAD AN ORGANIZED GROUP AGAINST IT, BUT WE HAVEN'T HAD AN ORGANIZED GROUP OTHER THAN THAT, LIKE A FORMALLY ORGANIZED GROUP AGAINST THE BOND OTHER THAN 2017.

NO, THERE WAS ONE AGAINST THE BOND.

>> RIGHT. WE HAVEN'T HAD THAT ONE BEFORE THE BOND.

>> YEAH, AND THERE WAS ONE FOR THE BOND TOO. SORRY.

>> WE HAVE HAD ONE FOR THE BOND?

>> I BELIEVE SO.

>> I'D HAVE TO LOOK. YOU HAVE TO FILE AS A POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE IN THAT BECAUSE IT'S A SCHOOL DISTRICT, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE A LOCAL FILING.

>> I JUST REMEMBERED THAT THERE WERE CAMPAIGN EXPENDITURES IN 2017.

I BELIEVE AGAINST THE BOND.

I CAN'T REMEMBER A FOR THE BONDS SIGN.

>> YEAH AND THAT WAS THE HIGH SCHOOL IN MOTION. [OVERLAPPING]

>> IT PASSED.

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>> SURE AN ARCHITECTURAL SERVICES AND ALL THAT CAN'T DO ANYTHING EITHER.

THEY CAN'T USE MONEY.

>> RIGHT. HOW DO THEY OFFER THAT?

>> WELL, A LOT OF THEM ARE FOR DISTRICTS THAT DON'T HAVE A COMMUNICATION TEAM OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

THEY HAVE TEMPLATES FOR PRESS RELEASES AND IDEAS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

IT'S NOT EVEN THE RIGHT WORD.

THEY PROVIDE INFORMATION TO VOTERS SO THAT SHOULD ANYONE IN THE COMMUNITY HAPPEN TO GET FIRED UP IN FAVOR OF SUPPORTING JUST REGULAR CITIZENS THEN THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

>> GOT IT. I SEE HOW YOU WERE DELICATELY DANCING AROUND THAT QUESTION.

THAT IS FINE. OKAY. I THINK [OVERLAPPING]

>> THEY HAVE RECOMMENDED TEMPLATES UNLIKE BROCHURES FOR INFORMATIONAL STUFF AND ALL THAT.

IT'S REALLY THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

THE TAX HOURS BELONG TO EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY AND THERE WILL BE PEOPLE FOR AND AGAINST A BOND.

IN EVERYTHING WE PUT DOWN TO THE EVERY SENTENCE WE HAVE IN ANY INFORMATIONAL PIECE.

WE RUN IT THROUGH THE LAWYERS TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE CONSTRUED BASED ON ANY RECENT COURT RULINGS AS TO WHETHER IT'S GOING TO APPEAR TO BE FAVORED FOR THE BOND.

YOU CAN'T EVEN SAY ANYTHING LIKE GREAT SCHOOLS MAKE GREAT COMMUNITIES, THAT'S ADVERTISING.

THEY GET DOWN SPECIFICALLY LIKE THAT ON WHAT COUNTS AS POLITICAL ADVERTISING AND ADVOCATING FOR A BOND.

WE HAVE TO LEARN LANGUAGE.

IT'S PRETTY DRY ON OUR END.

NOW, CITIZENS CAN ORGANIZE TOGETHER ON THEIR OWN AND SAY WHAT THEY WANT.

BECAUSE IF THEY'RE NOT USING DISTRICT RESOURCES, DISTRICT TIME, DISTRICT MONEY, DISTRICT EQUIPMENT TO ADVOCATE FOR OR AGAINST THE BOND.

THEY CAN EITHER BE FOR IT OR THEY CAN BE AGAINST IT.

IF YOU DO RAISE MONEY COLLECTIVELY, YOU SHOULD REGISTER AS A POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE.

BUT THAT WOULD BE BETWEEN THE TWO OPPOSING SIDES THROUGH THE ETHICS COMMISSION, WE WOULDN'T BE THE REFEREE ON THAT.

IF SOME SIDE SAYS, HEY, THIS GROUP IS FORMED AND THEY'RE SPENDING ALL MONEY ON SIGNS AND STUFF AGAINST OR FOR A BOND THEN THE OTHER GROUP COULD MAKE ANYWHERE ANY CITIZEN COULD MAKE A COMPLAINT TO THE ETHICS COMMISSION.

THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO CHECK IF THEY FILED THE PAPERWORK OR NOT.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU FOR EDUCATING US ON HOW THAT ALL WORKS.

>> DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION ON THE IMPACT? SOMEONE SAID YOU HAD A QUESTION ON THE IMPACT OF A PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.

>> YEAH, FOR MAY 2024, IF WE'RE SKIPPING 2024 ACCORDING TO THIS ROADMAP.

>> YES, THE EVEN-NUMBERED YEARS THIS YEAR INCLUDE THE '22 AND '24.

WELL, ANY YEAR REALLY, IF YOU SIGN UP.

THEY HAVE ANNUALIZED MAIL-IN BALLOTS.

IF YOU SIGN UP AT ANY ELECTION IN A GIVEN YEAR, YOU THEN AUTOMATICALLY GET THE BALLOT MAILED TO YOU FROM MAIL-IN.

FOR ALL REMAINING ELECTIONS, YOU QUALIFY TO VOTE IN FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR.

ON AN ODD-NUMBERED YEAR, WE MAY HAVE 10 TO 20 MAIL-IN BALLOTS IN THE WHOLE DISTRICT.

ON AN EVEN-NUMBERED YEAR, THEY MAIL OUT 1,000, 2,000, OR MORE, AND A LOT OF THAT MANY COME BACK AND THE REASON IS BECAUSE IN MARCH OF EVEN-NUMBERED YEARS YOU HAVE YOUR PRIMARIES FOR YOUR POLITICAL PARTIES.

THEY DO A TON OF WORK WITH THEIR POLITICAL MONEY TO SIGN PEOPLE UP FOR THE MARCH PRIMARY.

ONCE THEY'VE SIGNED UP FOR THAT, THEN THEY AUTOMATICALLY GET OUR MAY BALLOTS.

IN A 2024 YEAR WITH PRESIDENTIAL MONEY, LIKE THIS YEAR, IT WAS GUBERNATORIAL MONEY, WHICH IS A LOT LESS THAN PRESIDENTIAL MONEY.

BUT WHEN THERE'S PRESIDENTIAL MONEY IN THE MIX, YOU GET A LOT OF VOTERS.

NORMALLY WE HAVE ANYWHERE FROM, I'M JUST THROWING SOME ROUGH NUMBERS OUT THERE.

IF ANYONE WANTS TO CHECK, ALL OF OUR ACTUAL NUMBERS ARE ARCHIVED ON OUR WEBSITE.

BUT WE GET ABOUT, I THINK THE LOW-END 1,900 VOTES, MAYBE 2,000 TO UP TO MAYBE 2,700.

EXCEPT FOR THIS YEAR, WE HAD 5,000 VOTERS.

NOW PART OF THAT IS THE MAIL-IN BALLOT THAT COMES IN.

THE OTHER PART IS THIS WAS A UNIQUE YEAR IN MAY BECAUSE THEY HAD CONSTITUTIONAL, NORMALLY STATE CONSTITUTIONAL BALLOT MEASURES ARE IN NOVEMBER.

BUT BECAUSE THEY HAD THREE OR FOUR LEGISLATIVE SESSIONS AND THEY DIDN'T GET TO IT IN TIME TO CALL THE NOVEMBER ELECTION, THEY PUT THE CONSTITUTIONAL BALANCE ON THE MAY ELECTION.

I DON'T SEE THAT HAPPENING AGAIN.

THAT'S WHAT DROVE OUR NUMBERS AND IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT STRICTLY FROM AN ANALYSIS PERSPECTIVE, YOU KNOW THAT 2,000-2,700 PEOPLE THAT WILL COME OUT AND VOTE IN A STANDARD MAY ELECTION ARE COMING OUT.

THEY'RE USUALLY INFORMED SOMEHOW THEY'RE CONNECTED TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT OR THEY'RE PAYING ATTENTION ON THAT TYPE OF STUFF WHEN YOU START GETTING IN.

THIS IS THE PROBLEM WITH A LOT OF DISTRICTS THAT GO TO NOVEMBER, WHEN YOU START GETTING INTO OTHER VOTERS,

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COMING OUT FOR OTHER THINGS, JUST FOR THE CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENTS OR TO VOTE IN THE GUBERNATORIAL OR PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.

THE MONEY IS THERE SUCH THAT IT GENERATES A HIGH INTEREST, WHICH A IS GOOD THING FOR THOSE RACES.

BUT EVERYTHING DOWN BALLOT SOMETIMES CAN BE AN EENY, MEANY, MINY, MOE THING.

SOME PEOPLE UNDER VOTE, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE UNDERWROTE NUMBERS, IT'S NOT THAT MANY.

IT SHOWS THAT PEOPLE ARE GUESSING ON CANDIDATES.

REALLY MORE, THAT'S A CANDIDATE DISCUSSION, I GUESS.

THIS IS WHY WE STATED IN MAY YEARS AGO WHEN A LOT OF THEM WENT TO NOVEMBER BECAUSE IT WOULD COST ALL OF Y'ALL AND ANYBODY WHO WANTED TO JUST SIGN UP AND BE A REGULAR CITIZEN A TON OF MONEY IF YOU DIDN'T GET NOTICED IN A NOVEMBER RACE.

>> WELL, THAT IS HELPFUL BACKGROUND INFORMATION, MR. SAVOY. THANK YOU.

I THINK THAT CONCLUDES MY QUESTIONS, MS. FRANKEL, YOU HAD SOME ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.

YOU'RE GOOD. ANYBODY ELSE, MR. SEVERANCE

>> THANK YOU. SORRY. THIS IS FOR MR. MOFFETT.

QUICK QUESTION. I GOT DISTRACTED EARLY.

I FORGOT TO ASK OUT ABOUT THE HAYES HIGH SCHOOL TRACK FACILITY WITH TURF FIELD.

IS THAT REDOING THE TRACK AT SHELTON OR IS THAT ADDING A SEPARATE TRACK AND FIELD?

>> DID I JUST STEP ON SOMETHING?

>> NO.

>> I THOUGHT I DID THAT.

>> NO. THAT'S BASED ON THE STADIUM PROJECTION.

THE LAST QUESTION ON OUR SURVEY WAS, DO YOU PREFER ONE CENTRAL STADIUM IN ADDITION TO SHELTON WITH HIGH SCHOOL NUMBER 4? OR DO YOU PREFER A CENTRAL STADIUM IN OUR STADIUM AT EACH CAMPUS? AGAIN, I HAVEN'T SHARED THAT INFORMATION WITH FPLC YET, SO I DON'T KNOW IF I WANT TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU JUST YET OR PUBLIC FORMAT LIKE THIS.

[LAUGHTER] THAT'S BASED ON THE FACT THAT IF THAT BECOMES BIGGER AND WE HAVE ANOTHER HIGH-SCHOOL AND WE DO MORE GAMES AT A CENTRAL STADIUM, THEN THEY NEED A TRACK FACILITY AND A TURF PRACTICE FIELD, JUST LIKE THE OTHER HIGH SCHOOLS DO.

BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES THAT GET DISPLACED THE MOST.

EVERYBODY THINKS THEY HAVE IT BETTER BECAUSE THEY'RE AT SHELTON STADIUM AND ACTUALLY THEY GET DISPLACED A LOT MORE.

WHERE JOHNSON IS ON TURF EVERY DAY, LAHMAN IS ON TURF EVERY DAY.

HAYS HAS TO GET KICKED OFF SOMETIMES BECAUSE LAHMAN PLAYS ON THURSDAY NIGHT AND JOHNSON PLAYS ON THURSDAY NIGHT, OR WHATEVER.

>> IS THAT BECAUSE THAT'S A EIGHT LANE TRACK? IS THERE [OVERLAPPING]

>> WELL, THAT WOULD BE PART OF IT IS WOULD BE AN ADDITION OF AN EIGHTH LINE SO WE COULD ACTUALLY HOST A DISTRICT TRACK MEETS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

>> WOULD WE THEN TAKE THE TRACK OUT OF SHELTON THEN IF WE BUILD THAT?

>> THAT WOULD BE WHAT THAT PROPOSAL WOULD BE.

IF WE GO TO THE TWO-STADIUM MODEL, A NEW BIG STADIUM, AND THEN REFURBISH SHELTON, TAKE AWAY THE TRACK, MOVE THAT FACILITY FOR HAYES HIGH SCHOOL, THE TURF, AND ANOTHER TRACK FOR THEM SO THEY CAN HAVE TRACK MEET AND STUFF.

BOB SHELTON WOULD JUST BE FOR HOSTING VARSITY FOOTBALL GAMES AND BIG EVENTS.

>> LEST YOU MEAN ANOTHER STADIUM LIKE HIGH SCHOOL NUMBER 4, HAVING A STADIUM LARGE ENOUGH TO SUPPORT THAT. IS THAT WHAT YOU MEAN BY THAT?

>> THAT'S THE PROPOSAL, THAT'S JUST WHAT HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT.

>> THAT HADN'T BEEN DECIDED ON.

WAS IT TWO YEARS AGO WE HAD THE STADIUM PROPOSITIONS FOR JOHNSON AND LAHMAN AND THAT DIDN'T PASS.

NOW HE'S GATHERING INFORMATION TO COME BACK AND SHARE.

BUT REALISTICALLY WE CAN HOST FOOTBALL GAMES AT ONE DISTRICT STADIUM FOR FOUR HIGH SCHOOLS ON THURSDAY NIGHTS, FRIDAY, AND SATURDAY, BUT WHAT WE WOULD PROBABLY NEED TO EXPAND, ADD MORE LOCKER ROOMS TO SHELTON, TAKE OUT THE TRACK, MAYBE MOVE THE STANDS UP CLOSER TO THE FIELD.

BUT HAYES HIGH SCHOOL WOULDN'T NEED WHAT LAHMAN AND JOHNSON HAVE A SUB-VARSITY FIELD.

BECAUSE AS COACH MENTIONED RIGHT NOW, PLAYING ON THURSDAY NIGHTS AND FRIDAY NIGHTS, THE JV GETS DISPLACED FROM HAYS AND HAS TO GO PLAY SOMEWHERE ELSE.

USUALLY, I GUESS ON THE ROAD ALL THE TIME BECAUSE WE PRETTY MUCH PLAY EVERY THURSDAY NIGHT NOW.

THAT'S A DISADVANTAGE FOR THEM.

WHAT YOU DO IS YOU WOULD RECONFIGURE SHELTON TO BE YOUR DISTRICT STADIUM.

I THINK IT WOULD CARRY US THROUGH FOUR HIGH SCHOOLS.

BUT IF YOU WENT BEYOND FOUR, THEN YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE ANOTHER DISTRICT STADIUM.

BUT WHAT I'M HEARING FROM A SURVEY IS THAT PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THEIR OWN STADIUM AT THEIR OWN CAMPUS, BUT THEY WANT THE SAME NUMBER OF SEATS THAT SHELTON HAS AT THEIR OWN STADIUM.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HEARING. RIGHT NOW SHELTON IS CLOSE TO 9,000.

THEY WOULD LIKE 9,000 AT JOHNSON AND 9,000 AT LAHMAN, THEN THAT'S JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT.

THAT'S WHAT TWO PEOPLE HAVE SAID.

DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD FLY OR NOT.

REMEMBER THIS IS SAUSAGE-MAKING TIME AND I KNOW THINGS THAT ARE COMING OUT OF MY MOUTH ARE NOT GOING TO BE POPULAR AND I'M NOT TRYING TO SELL ANYTHING.

[01:50:01]

I'M JUST RELAYING INFORMATION. DON'T SHOOT THE MESSENGER.

>> YEAH. THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE GOING FORWARD, THAT THE FPLC HAS SOME CLEAR DIRECTION OR PRIORITY OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO AS A DISTRICT MOVING FORWARD SO WE CAN MAKE SURE WE'RE PLANNING ASSETS AND PROPER SPOTS ACCORDINGLY. THANK YOU FOR COMING BACK UP.

MR. MOFFETT, DON'T GO TOO FAR, I HAD A QUICK QUESTION AS WELL.

MULTIPURPOSE PAVILIONS, TALK TO ME ABOUT WHAT THAT MEANS.

>> THOSE ARE FULL-SIZED FOOTBALL FIELDS WITH A ROOF THAT GOES ABOUT A QUARTER OF THE WAY DOWN, I GUESS FROM THE TOP.

NO HVAC, NO WALLS, NONE OF THE NORMAL STUFF THAT GOES INTO A BRICK-AND-MORTAR BUILDING FOR THAT.

IT'S MUCH CHEAPER THAN THOSE TYPE OF INDOOR FACILITIES THAT ALSO WOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR ALL THE SPORTS DROPPED DOWN NETS IN THERE FOR BASEBALL, SOFTBALL, GOLF, SOCCER COULD BE IN THERE.

DROP-DOWN GOALS ON EITHER END FOR SOCCER AND FOOTBALL AND THEN SPACE FOR FINE ARTS AS WELL.

IT'S A SPACE THAT IT'S NOT COVERED, BUT IT'S ABLE TO BE USED DURING INCLEMENT WEATHER.

>> IT'S COVERED THOUGH, RIGHT?

>> IT'S NOT ENCLOSED I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT.

>> IT'S NOT ENCLOSED SO YOU COULD BRING PARTICLES OR SOMETHING FOR FANS FOR SUMMER PRACTICES AND STUFF LIKE THAT?

>> AN ARTIFICIAL TURF, I SEE IT.

FOR THREE OF THOSE, 18 MILLION?

>> SOME OTHER DISTRICTS AROUND HERE HAVE SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THIS.

I FELT LIKE DOES THIS WHAT DEL VALLEY HAS?

>> THEIRS IS MORE ENCLOSED.

>> I WAS GOING TO SAY THERE'S JUST LIKE A BUBBLE.

>> YEAH. THERE'S THIS COMPLETELY ENCLOSED IN DEL VALLEY.

SAN MARCUS HAS ONE OF THAT'S COMPLETELY ENCLOSED AND ROLL-UP GARAGE DOORS ON EITHER END, BUT I THINK THEY HAVE HVAC AND ALL OF THAT INSIDE AS WELL.

>> ALL RIGHT, THAT WAS ONE THING.

THEN IN TERMS OF WEIGHT ROOMS AT THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS, WHAT DO WE CURRENTLY DO THERE?

>> WELL, TYPICALLY WE HAVE THREE MIDDLE SCHOOLS.

WALLACE, BARTON, AND DELLSROME HAVE ADEQUATE WEIGHT ROOM SPACE UPSTAIRS.

THEY HAVE PLENTY OF SPACE AND PLENTY OF EQUIPMENT.

THE NEW SCHOOLS, JOPPA, SIMON, AND MCCORMICK, ALL HAVE A SMALL WEIGHT ROOM SPACE THAT IS NOT REALLY BIG ENOUGH FOR THE AMOUNT OF KIDS WHO GO THROUGH THERE.

THAT'S REALLY WHAT THAT IS, IS EXPANDED WEIGHT ROOM FOR THOSE THREE WHO DON'T HAVE THE SPACE.

THAT WAS BASED ON NEEDS, TALKING TO EACH OF THOSE CAMPUSES AND ACTUALLY SEEING WHAT THEY HAVE.

>> THANK YOU. THAT'S HELPFUL. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MRS. RUNKLE?

>> HE MENTIONED WEIGHT ROOMS AND I JUST WANTED TO ADD TO THAT BECAUSE I HAVE HAD EXPERIENCE IN WALKING IN WAIT ROOMS AND YOU ARE VERY CORRECT.

MCCORMICK'S IN PARTICULAR IS EXTREMELY SMALL AND I KNOW THAT THEY STRUGGLE GREATLY WITH THE AMOUNT OF KIDS AND ATHLETES THAT THEY HAVE AT THAT CAMPUS.

I WOULD IMAGINE IT'S THE SAME AT JOPPA AND SIMON AS WELL.

BUT THAT HAS BEEN A BIG STRUGGLE FOR THOSE CAMPUSES, BUT ALSO THE HIGH SCHOOL COACHES THAT HAVE GONE IN THERE AND TRY TO DO SOME TRAINING WITH THOSE KIDS AND TRYING TO MANEUVER WHERE TO PUT KIDS AND WHATNOT HAS BEEN CHALLENGING.

I HAVE SEEN THAT AND I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS BRINGING THAT FORWARD. THANK YOU.

> WELL, AND I KNOW THAT THE JOHNSON ATHLETES ARE USING THE ROTC SHOOTING RANGE AS A WEIGHT ROOM RIGHT NOW, WHICH CANNOT BE THE CASE LONG TERM AS ROTC GETS SET UP OVER AT JOHNSON, I KNOW THAT HAYES HIGH SCHOOL HAS STRUGGLED WITH THEIR WEIGHT ROOM NEEDS.

WE'VE BEEN HEARING THAT FOR SEVERAL YEARS SO I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING WHAT THE FPLC THINKS ABOUT THESE RECOMMENDATIONS.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? THE SUGGESTED MOTION IS THAT THE BOARD MOVE TO CHARGE THE FACILITIES IN BOND OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE IN ACCORDANCE WITH POLICIES CCA LOCAL AND THE COMMITTEE CHARTER WITH DEVELOPING RECOMMENDATIONS TO PRESENT TO THE BOARD REGARDING THE NEED FOR A FUTURE BOND ELECTION AS PRESENTED.

>> SO MOVED.

>> MOVED BY MRS. RUNKLE. SECONDED BY MR. SEVERANCE. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?

>> AYE.

>> ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES 7:0.

FPLC BALL IS IN YOUR COURT NOW.

IT'S 8:36 TEAM LET'S TAKE A QUICK BREAK, MAYBE SEVEN MINUTES OR SO WE WOULD BE BACK HERE, FIVE OR SEVEN.

TEAM, WE ARE BACK. IT'S 08:45 PM.

[L.16. Consideration and possible approval of the 50% construction documents (CD) for the 2022 Bond Project, Elementary School 16]

WE ARE MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER L16, THIS IS ON PAGE 154 OF YOUR AGENDA.

THIS IS THE CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE APPROVAL OF 50 PERCENT CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS FOR THE 2022 BOND PROJECT.

[01:55:01]

ELEMENTARY SCHOOL 16, SOMETIMES REFERRED TO AS THE NIGGLY RELIEF SCHOOL.

TEAM, ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM, MS. OROSCO?

>> MAX CLEAVER I JUST WANTED TO KNOW WHAT THE VOTE MEANS TODAY.

DOES THIS MEAN THERE WILL NOT BE ANY CHANGES? WHEN WE VOTE TODAY, CAN WE STILL MAKE CHANGES TO THE DESIGN, THE COLOR SCHEME, ALL THAT STUFF?

>> COLOR SCHEME, YES.

THAT CAN GO ALL THE WAY UNTIL THE WHEN THE PAINT GOES ON THE WALL.

BUT AS FAR AS THIS APPROVAL TONIGHT IS TO GO FORWARD WITH THE BASE BID OF 41 CLASSROOMS INSTEAD OF 47.

FROM THE SUN-FILLED ELEMENTARY PROTOTYPE IS 47 CLASSROOMS. IF YOU REMEMBER THE DRAWINGS, IT SHOWED THAT THE CLASSROOMS THAT WOULD BE REMOVED FOR THE BASE BID, SO IT'D BE 41 IN THE BASE BID AND THEN 47 OR INCREMENTS OF TWO ADDITIONAL FOR ALTERNATIVE BIDS. FOR THIS PROCEDURE.

>> YOU WILL GET ALTERNATE BIDS.

>> FOR 47 CLASSROOMS.

>> OKAY, SO ALTERNATIVE BIDS.

BUT WE ARE NOT TIED.

THERE'S CAN STILL BE CHANGES MADE.

>> BASED ON THE INFO WE GET BACK FROM SUN-FILLED BECAUSE THAT DISCUSSION IS NOT TAKING PLACE TILL OCTOBER 18TH OR SEPTEMBER 18TH OR SOMETHING.

I WANT TO BE ABLE TO CHANGE THINGS BASED ON THE FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVE.

>> YES, MA'AM. A MAJOR STRUCTURAL ITEMS AND THINGS WE WOULDN'T BE CHANGING THOSE BUT A WALL HERE, A DOOR THERE, A DOOR SWING, A WINDOW, THAT THING, YES, MA'AM.

RESTROOMS, YES, MA'AM.

>> ALL OF THOSE RESTROOMS. REMEMBER THAT WHOLE AREA I TOLD YOU TO LOOK THAT?

>> YES MA'AM.

>> I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I HAVE YOU ON RECORD SAYING THAT TO ME.

THANK YOU, MR. CLEAVER.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MR. SEVERANCE?

>> YES. THANK YOU. GOING THROUGH THE PLAN LOOKING AT THE OUTSIDE, THE 3D VERSION OF THIS, WHICH I THINK IS AWESOME.

THANK YOU FOR PROVIDING THAT NOW.

IT HELPS US WITH THE VOLUME.

I WAS WONDERING WITH THE VOLUME STILL LOOKS LIKE IN THE CAFETERIA, IT'S THE SAME VOLUME AS IT AS AT SUN-FILLED?

>> NO, SIR. WE TOOK THAT CLAIRE STORY OUT.

IT HAD THE SLOPED METAL ROOFS, SO WITH THE CLAIRE STORY WINDOWS AND THAT'S NOW JUST A FLAT.

>> AWESOME. THEN THE SECOND I KNOW THE ALTERNATIVE BID WITH THE 41 CLASSROOMS VERSUS THE 47, LIKE IF WE DO DECIDE TO GO WITH THE 41 CLASSROOMS AND NOT DO THE 47 BECAUSE OF COST I WOULD LIKE TO JUST ASK, IS IT POSSIBLE TO POUR THE SLAB AS JUST A SLAB AS IF WE WERE GOING TO DO THE ALTERNATE CLASSROOMS ON THE THREE WINGS JUST SO EVER DOWN THE ROAD WE CAN JUST BUILDUP THE CLASSROOMS INSTEAD OF HAVING AN ENGINEER SLAB REDO THAT, WE CAN WE LOOK AT A PRICE FOR THAT?

>> YES, SIR. I CAN THROW THAT INTO THE HOPPER AND HAVE THE DESIGN TEAM WORK ON THAT.

>> JUST IN CASE IF WE EVER NEED.

>> I CAN GET A RESPONSE TO WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE.

>> OKAY, THANK YOU.

>> WE'VE DONE IT BEFORE. I KNOW WE DID THAT FOR MCCORMICK AND THAT WAS REALLY HANDY AS WE HAVE BEEN USING THOSE SLABS AND CLOSING IN THOSE OUTDOOR CLASSROOMS INTO INDOOR CLASSROOMS. GREAT QUESTION, MR. SEVERANCE. ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS ITEM FOR ELEMENTARY SCHOOL 16? I JUST WANT TO ECHO MRS. OROSCO IS CONCERNED ABOUT COLORS.

I WANT TO DOUBLE DOWN ABOUT FIFTH GRADE AND PRE-K BEING SEPARATE COLORS.

SHE DIDN'T SAY THAT, BUT I WAS READING HER MIND AND THAT'S WHAT SHE WAS THINKING.

[LAUGHTER]

>> ABSOLUTELY. WE RESPONDED TO THAT ONE AND WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF OPTIONS.

WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS I THINK IT WAS GIVE FIFTH GRADE THEIR OWN COLOR AND DOUBLE UP PRE-K WITH WHOEVER IT WAS BECAUSE THERE WAS A TOTAL OF FOUR COLORS INSTEAD OF FIVE. WE HAVE A SOLUTION.

>> PERFECT, AWESOME. MS. OROSCO?

>> YES, THAT WAS MY SOLUTION THAT I BROUGHT UP MAX.

>> DID I STEAL YOUR THUNDER?

>> YOU STOLE MY IDEA BECAUSE I SAID IT LAST NIGHT, YOU WON'T LISTENING MAN.

>> HERE'S YOUR CREDIT CARD AND I WILL GIVE IT TO YOU NOW.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM.

MOVED BY MR. SEVERANCE, SECONDED BY MR. MCMANUS.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.

>> ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES 6:0.

NEXT UP, WE HAVE CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE APPROVAL OF THE DESIGN DEVELOPMENT.

[L.17. Consideration and possible approval of the design development (DD) for the 2021 Bond improvements to Wallace Middle School]

DD FOR THE 2021 BOND IMPROVEMENTS TO WALLACE MIDDLE SCHOOL.

[02:00:03]

THIS IS ON PAGE 156.

THIS IS O'CONNELL ROBERTSON IS OUR ARCHITECT FOR THIS PROJECT.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. CLEAVER? MR. SEVERANCE.

>> MAX I DON'T WANT TO REFRESH MISREMEMBER SOMETHING POSSIBLY FROM WHEN WE WERE ON THE FPLC TOGETHER EARLY ON IN YOUR CAREER WITH WITH AS.

I'M PRETTY SURE THAT WALLACE HAD CLASSROOM, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT DOING ADDITIONAL CLASSROOMS FOR THE ACTUAL BOND THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT, BUT THEN DETERMINED THAT THE DEMOGRAPHERS REPORT AT THE TIME WE DIDN'T NEED THAT.

BUT NOW IT'S LOOKING LIKE THAT BASED ON WHAT WE KNOW NOW WOULD PROBABLY GET TO LOOK AT DOING SOME MORE EXPANSION AGAIN.

BECAUSE I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE SAY OUT LOUD THAT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WHEN LOOKING AT THE DEMOGRAPHERS REPORT, I KNOW THE ONCE A YEAR, BUT ALWAYS MAKE SURE THAT ONCE A YEAR IS TIMED PROPERLY WITH WHEN WE'RE MAKING DECISIONS ON EXPANDING IN THE FUTURE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING ALL THE ACCURATE DATA.

BECAUSE HOW QUICKLY THINGS CHANGED, I JUST DON'T WANT TO BE BEHIND.

>> YES, SIR. WITH THAT, I KNOW I HEAR YOU LOUD AND CLEAR ABOUT THE ONE REPORT.

I THINK WHEN YOU SEE THE MOST LIKELY AND THEN THE HIGH AND THEN THE LOW SCENARIOS, THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO YOU BECAUSE THAT GIVES US SOME BOOKENDS TO PLAN WITH.

>> YEAH, AND I DO THINK AS WE HAVE THESE DISCUSSIONS WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GET ALL OF OUR MIDDLE SCHOOLS TO 1,200, I THINK WE JUST NEED TO HAVE THAT ON THE ROADMAP.

WHATEVER THE DEMOGRAPHER THINKS THIS CADENCE SHOULD BE OR THE ORDER SHOULD BE FOR THOSE SCHOOLS BUT-

>> GET THEM ON THE ROADMAP.

>> JUST GET THEM ON THE ROADMAP THEN WE CAN SEE THAT.

IT SOUNDS LIKE WALLACE IS GOING TO BE PRETTY CLOSE AND DAHLSTROM IS ABOUT TO BE CHECKED OFF, RIGHT?

>> YES, MA'AM AND MCCORMICK.

>> MCCORMICK. THE SUGGESTED MOTION IS THAT THE HAYS CISD BOARD OF TRUSTEES APPROVE THE DESIGN DEVELOPMENT FOR THE 2021 BOND IMPROVEMENTS TO WALLACE MIDDLE SCHOOL AS DESIGNED BY O'CONNELL ROBERTSON ARCHITECTS AS PRESENTED.

>> MOVED.

>> MR. CLEAVER, YOU'RE LOOKING, IS THAT 2021 BOND? IS THAT CORRECT?

>> YES, MA'AM. ABSOLUTELY. I'M SORRY. [OVERLAPPING]

>> MOVED BY MR. MCMANUS.

>> SECOND.

>> SECONDED BY MR. SEVERANCE. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES 7-0. WAY TO GO WALLACE.

IT'S GOING TO BE GREAT.

NEXT UP, WE HAVE THE SCHEMATIC DESIGN FOR THE 2022 BOND PROJECT,

[L.18. Consideration and possible approval of the schematic design (SD) for the 2022 Bond Project Academic Support Center]

THE ACADEMIC SUPPORT CENTER.

I KNOW WE MAY HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS.

MR. CLEAVER, DID YOU WANT TO ADDRESS ANY OF THE COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS WE HAD LAST WEEK BEFORE WE OPENED IT UP TO QUESTIONS?

>> WELL, I THINK WE HAVE A BROCHURE FOR YOU THAT ADDRESSES MANY OF THOSE QUESTIONS.

>> DO YOU ALL HAVE THOSE? JUST PASS THOSE [INAUDIBLE] [OVERLAPPING]

>> IS IT THIS ONE THAT WE HAD?

>> NO, MA'AM. WE HAVE A HANDOUT FOR YOU.

>> A NEW HANDOUT THAT'S COMING TO US?

>> ALL RIGHT, MS. JANA DUKE IS GOING TO HAND YOU SOMETHING.

>> I THINK IT DOES ADDRESS THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED FROM LAST WEEK.

JANA IS HERE TO RUN THROUGH THEM AND TALK ABOUT THEM.

WE CAN ACTUALLY GO QUESTION BY QUESTION OR WE CAN ACTUALLY GO TO THE FLOOR PLAN. YOUR CHOICE.

>> YEAH, LET'S JUST SKIP TO WHAT'S NEW AND DIFFERENT AND WHAT WE'VE ADDRESSED FROM THE BOARD'S QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS AND THEN WE'LL OPEN IT UP.

>> THIS IS A JANA DUKE FROM O'CONNELL ROBERTSON ARCHITECTS.

>> HELLO.

>> ALL RIGHT, GET IN THE MICROPHONE THERE. I DIDN'T SEE THEM.

>> WAY DOWN THE SCREEN.

>> OKAY, GOOD. [NOISE]

>> PERFECT. WE WANT TO START AT QUESTION 1 AND RUN THROUGH THOSE IN ORDER.

[BACKGROUND]

>> I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT.

WE DON'T HAVE THAT.

YEAH, THIS ISN'T [INAUDIBLE] [BACKGROUND] TAKE IT AWAY.

JUST TELL US WHERE TO GO IN THIS DOCUMENT.

>> PERFECT. ON THIS ONE, WE DO HAVE A RESTROOM SLIDE.

>> A RESTROOM SLIDE?

>> LIKE THIS. SOMETIMES THEY'RE JAZZY.

>> THERE'S NO PAGE NUMBERS ON AND THAT I CAN SEE,

[02:05:03]

BUT IT LOOKS LIKE MAYBE THIS. [OVERLAPPING]

>> BUT IT'S RESTROOMS. MIDWAY THROUGH.

>> YEAH, IT SAYS RESTROOMS ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT OF THE PAPER.

>> WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ON THIS, ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE, THIS IS SHOWING OUR OPTION 1.

WE ADDED IN A FAMILY RESTROOM UP IN THE MAIN ENTRY SECURE ENTRY VESTIBULE.

BEFORE YOU ARE CHECKED INTO THE BUILDING, THERE WOULD BE ACCESS TO TWO RESTROOMS. OVERALL, THE FACILITY SURPASSES CODE MINIMUM BY 33 PERCENT.

OPTION 2, ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE, WE ADDED IN FOUR ADDITIONAL FIXTURES PER FLOOR, SO THERE'S EIGHT TOTAL ADDITIONAL FIXTURES.

WE'RE SHOWING AN OPTION ON THIS.

IF WE WERE TO BE ABLE TO SEE THIS LARGER, THERE ARE TWO FAMILY-STYLE RESTROOMS THAT BACKUP AGAINST THE LARGE GROUP RESTROOMS. THAT WOULD BE THE HIGHEST COSTS SQUARE FOOTAGE IN SPACE.

THAT WOULD BE THE HIGHER COST OPTION, BUT IT DOES PROVIDE A DIFFERENT TYPE OF FACILITY.

IN LIEU OF THAT, WE COULD JUST ADD ON FIXTURES TO THE GROUP RESTROOM AS WELL.

THERE'S AN OPTION WITH THAT.

>> TEAM, LET'S STOP THERE AND HAVE OUR CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THESE OPTIONS.

I KNOW WE WERE PRETTY PASSIONATE LAST WEEK ABOUT THIS.

IT LOOKS LIKE WE DO GIVE UP AN EMPLOYEE BREAK ROOM SPACE FOR THE OPTION ON THE RIGHT. IS THAT CORRECT?

>> IF IT WERE THE TWO FAMILY-STYLE, THAT'S WHAT IT EATS INTO, YES.

>> OKAY. THEN WHAT'S THAT SPACE RIGHT UNDERNEATH THAT? THOSE TWO EMPTY SPACES.

>> BUILDING OPERATIONS WITH YOUR NDF-IDF ELECTRICAL ROOM. [OVERLAPPING]

>> GOT IT.

>> THAT'S STORAGE, RIGHT? STORAGE FOR THE FOOD.

>> YES, AND THEN THERE IS FOOD STORAGE, THE BIGGER ROOM ON THE RIGHT.

THE ONE FACING THE CORRIDOR IS THAT BUILDING SUPPORT ROOM AND THE BIGGER ONE IS FOOD STORAGE.

>> ALL RIGHT, TEAM, WE HAVE PREFERENCES, QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? MR. VELA?

>> CAN THERE BE AN OPTION 3 WHERE WE SPLIT THE DIFFERENCE?

>> TOTALLY.

>> BECAUSE I GUESS THE FOOD STORAGE ROOM THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, WE LOSE THAT WITH THE ADDITIONAL.

FAMILY RESTROOM IS ON OPTION 2.

IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING?

>> NO, IT SWITCHES AROUND AND CHANGES FORM THERE.

IT'S JUST THE WAY THAT THE GEOMETRY WORKS.

YOU KEEP THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE, YOU LOSE MORE OF IT OUT OF THAT FRONT CATERING SERVICE LINE AREA.

>> OKAY. BUT THEN IF YOU DON'T ADD THE ADDITIONAL TWO FAMILY RESTROOMS, WE WOULD STILL GAIN ADDITIONAL RESTROOM FACILITIES, [OVERLAPPING] BUT YOU STILL HAVE SOMEWHAT OF A BREAK ROOM OR COLLABORATIVE AREA THAT COULD STILL BE UTILIZED?

>>YES. YOU SEE IN THE GROUP RESTROOMS, THE OPTION ON THE LEFT HAS FOUR FIXTURES PER SIDE, AND THE OPTION ON THE RIGHT INCREASES THAT EVEN INSIDE THE GROUP BATHROOM.

>> MS. BRONCO.

>> CAN YOU SHOW ME WHERE ON THIS DESIGN IS THE SPECIAL EDUCATION TESTING ROOM? BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE MOVED THAT FROM THE SECOND FLOOR TO THE FIRST FLOOR.

>> IT'S A BIT OF ORANGE.

IF YOU'RE ON THE FIRST FLOOR, INTO THE MAIN FRONT DOORS, THROUGH THE SECURE ENTRY DOOR, AND THEN TAKE A LEFT.

>> OKAY, AND THEN THERE IS A FAMILY RESTROOM FOR THAT GROUP TO USE IF THEY NEED IT.

>> IN THAT SECURE ENTRY, [OVERLAPPING] WELL YES THERE ARE TWO IN THERE NOW.

>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

>> WITH MS. PETREA STEPPING AWAY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YES, MR. ROSCOE AND THEN MR. MCMANUS.

>> I DEFINITELY LIKE AN OPTION 3.

FIRST OF ALL, LET ME ASK YOU, DO WE HAVE ANY RESTROOMS FOR PEOPLE THAT WERE WAITING IN THAT SECURE AREA THAT HAD NOT BEEN CLEARED TO GO THROUGH? DO WE HAVE RESTROOMS BEFORE FOR THEM?

>> WE HAD ONE IN THERE BEFORE AND NOW WE HAVE TWO.

>> I THINK DEFINITELY ONE IS FINE.

I REALLY WASN'T CONCERNED ABOUT THAT AREA AS MUCH AS THE AREA WHERE OUR WORKERS ARE AT, THAT WAS MY MAIN CONCERN, HAVING SO MANY WORKERS OVER HERE.

BUT I UNDERSTAND FROM MR.MCMANUS THAT THIS IS PRETTY TYPICAL AND STANDARD AND STUFF, BUT LIKE AN OPTION 3 THAT I WAS THINKING WAS JUST LEAVE THAT ONE RESTROOM FOR THAT SECURE AREA,

[02:10:05]

SO NOT ADDING TWO, I DON'T THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE TWO FAMILY RESTROOMS FOR THE EMPLOYEE ACCESS ONLY ADDED TO THE CORE, I DON'T THINK THAT'S NEEDED.

JUST ADDING THOSE TWO FIXTURES TO THE MEN'S AND WOMEN'S RESTROOM, THAT WOULD TAKE US TO SIX RESTROOMS. SIX FIXTURES PER COMMUNITY RESTROOM, CORRECT?

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

>> YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

>> WE JUST DID THAT, THE COST WOULD BE A LOT CHEAPER THAN DOING ALL THIS STUFF ON OPTION 2.

>> TO REMOVE THE TWO FAMILY RESTROOMS THAT ARE ADJACENT, THE GROUP RESTROOM?

>> YES, AND ALSO GETTING RID OF THAT ADDED FAMILY RESTROOM AT THE SECURE AREA BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE A ONE.

>> AT THE SECURITY AREA.

>> THAT'S WHAT THE PLAN WAS, TO HAVE ONE.

JUST ADDING TWO MEN AND TWO WOMEN FIXTURES.

I THINK THAT WOULD DEFINITELY SUFFICE, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT THE COST BREAKDOWN IS WITH THAT.

IS THIS JUST FOR THAT FIRST FLOOR OR IS THAT ALSO THE SAME THING FOR FLOOR 2?

>> THE GROUP RESTROOMS STACK ON TOP OF EACH OTHER, SO THAT WOULD BE THE EXACT SAME FIXTURE COUNT STAIRS AS DOWNSTAIRS.

>> THAT SEEMS LIKE MORE DOABLE OPTION, ADDING 1-2 FIXTURES FOR THE MEN AND WOMEN, BUT NO NEED FOR ALL THOSE FAMILY RESTROOMS BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE FOR OUR EMPLOYEES, SO USUALLY YOU'RE NOT GOING TO MEET THAT IF YOU'RE IN THERE.

NOW, DO OR ANY OF THESE RESTROOMS HAVE A DIAPER CHANGING STATION?

>> THEY CERTAINLY CAN, YES, ALL OF THEM.

>> THOSE COMMUNITY RESTROOMS WHICH MIGHT BE USED BY PEOPLE THAT ARE TESTING IN SPECIAL EDUCATION OR MIGHT BE IN HR BRINGING THEIR CHILD OR THEY CAN UTILIZE THOSE RESTROOMS?

>> WE DEFINITELY WANT A DIAPER CHANGING STATION FOR THEM, THAT WAS REALLY CRITICAL NEED THAT I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE AND IT SHOULD JUST BE MAKING SURE WE HAVE ONE IN THE MEN'S ROOM AND THE WOMEN'S ROOM IS IMPORTANT FOR THAT EQUITY.

I ALWAYS WANTED MY HUSBAND AND GO CHANGE MY DAUGHTER, I DIDN'T WANT TO GO DO IT.

SO YEAH, THAT WOULD BE REALLY GOOD ADDING THOSE DIAPER CHANGING TABLES AND THEN JUST KNOWING WHAT THE COST WOULD BE IF WE GO WITH JUST ADDING ONE MORE FIXTURE OR TWO FIXTURES. THANK YOU.

>> ANYONE ELSE ON RESTROOMS, MR. VELA?

>> YES. THANK YOU. MS. HALL, THAT'S WHERE YOU ACTUALLY SPARKED A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR ME.

GOING BACK TO THE FIRST FLOOR PLAN AND THE SECOND FLOOR PLAN, YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE RESTROOM THAT THEY LAY ON TOP OF EACH OTHER, SO IF WE WERE TO ADD JUST THE ADDITIONAL RESTROOMS SPACES IN THE GROUP RESTROOM, WE'RE CUTTING INTO OFFICE SPACE ON THE SECOND FLOOR; IS THAT SOME OF THE FLOOR PLAN? THE CUBICAL SPACE?

>> IN ITS CURRENT ARRANGEMENT, IT WOULD BE.

WE WOULD NEED TO REWORK A LITTLE BIT TO ACCOMMODATE FOR THAT, BUT WE'RE IN THE RIGHT STAGE TO MAKE THAT SHIFT.

>> THAT IS THE ONLY RESTROOM ON THE SECOND FLOOR IS JUST WHATEVER RESTROOM WE.

>> THE CENTRAL GROUP RESTROOMS, YES SIR.

>> CORRECT. THANK YOU.

>> ANYTHING ELSE? MR. SEVERANCE?

>> REFRESH MY MEMORY, THE TOTAL OCCUPANCY OF THE ENTIRE BUILDING? [BACKGROUND]

>> COMPLETELY BUILT. LET'S SAY IF IT WAS COMPLETELY FULL; IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, MR. SEVERANCE?

>> YEP.

>> TWO HUNDRED AND EIGHTY, IS OUR PROGRAM NUMBER OF OCCUPANTS AND THAT COUNTS THE ITINERANTS.

>> TWO HUNDRED AND EIGHTY. I KNOW WE'RE PUTTING THE BATHROOMS IN THE CENTRAL.

I BELIEVE MR. MADISON, THIS IS TO CORE AND EVERYTHING ELSE, BUT I JUST WANT TO ASK THE QUESTION OUT LOUD; IS THIS ONE BATHROOM IN THE MIDDLE OF EACH FLOOR, IS THAT EMPLOYEE FRIENDLY? WHERE SOMEONE IN OPERATION OR SPECIAL ED AND THERE'S NO RESTROOM IN THE SPECIAL ED DEPARTMENT AT ALL, ARE THEY NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY PARENTS WITH KIDS IN THAT SPECIAL ED AREA AT ALL OR WHO'S EVERYTHING RELATED TO TESTING, ASSESSMENT GOING TO BE DONE DOWNSTAIRS?

[02:15:03]

WAS MICHELLE OKAY WITH THAT? SHE WAS LIKE, NO PROBLEM.

I JUST FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD JUST SPREAD OUT THE BATHROOMS ACROSS THE BUILDING.

IN MY OPINION, IT JUST FEEL THAT, IT'S LIKE 30,000 SQUARE FEET TO GO FROM ONE POINT TO A BATHROOM IF YOU'RE AT THE EXTREMITIES.

THAT'S JUST MY TWO CENTS.

I BELIEVE THERE'S ENOUGH TOTAL, BUT I JUST DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S FRIENDLY. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU.

>> YOU WANT TO ADDRESS ANY OF THAT FIRST?

>> CERTAINLY, WE CAN. THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THE GUESTS ENTERING THE SPACE AND FAMILIES ENTERING WAS THAT ALL OF THE SERVICES NEEDED FOR THOSE GUESTS WOULD BE EASILY ACCESSIBLE FROM THE FIRST FLOOR FOR THAT REASON SO THAT THEY'RE NOT TRAVERSING THROUGH MORE PRIVATE CONVERSATIONS OR WORK AREAS AND ALSO FOR THE CONVENIENCE OF THEIR COMMUNITY MEMBERS, AND THEN JUST PRETTY TYPICAL COMMERCIAL BUILDING PRACTICE TO CONSOLIDATE THOSE RESTROOM FACILITIES AND THEN ALSO TO MAKE SURE IF ANYBODY'S EVER HAD THE PLEASURE OF SITTING OUTSIDE OF A BATHROOM AT THEIR WORKSTATION, IT'S NOT ENJOYABLE FOR ANY.

>> NO. I AGREE.

EXCEPT IN THE SPECIAL ED SIDE.

IF ONE OF THOSE FAMILIES WAS IN FOR AN ASSESSMENT AND THEY HAVE TO TAKE THE KID TO GO THE RESTROOM, THEY HAVE TO GET BACK OUT THROUGH THE VESTIBULE, GO THE RESTROOM, AND GET TAGGED BACK IN TO GO BACK INTO THE ROOM.

>> IT WAS IN THE GROUP RESTROOMS ARE IN THE SECURE SIDE OR THIS INDIVIDUAL FAMILY ONES ARE ON THE NON SECURED SIDE, THAT THERE WOULD BE EITHER OR.

>> BUT THEY COULD JUST GET TO NON-SECURED RESTROOMS FROM THE FIRST FLOOR?

>> THERE'S A RESTROOM IN THE VESTIBULE?

>> WHEN YOU COME IN.

>> BUT THEY'LL STILL GOING TO GET TAGGED BACK IN?

>> IF YOU WERE IN TESTING RIGHT HERE IN THIS BIT OF ORANGE, YOU CAN WALK STRAIGHT ACROSS THE HALL INTO THE PURPLE.

>> I THOUGHT YOU SAID THAT WALL BETWEEN THE SHARES, THE BOARDROOM, AND THAT WAS A SECURED WALL WHERE YOU COULDN'T GET IN AND OUT.

>> ON A BOARD NIGHT, IT WOULD.

>> BUT THAT'S OPEN DURING THE DAY?

>> CORRECT, YES, SIR.

>> YES, I WANTED TO GO BACK TO THE QUESTION ON THE OCCUPANCY, SO THERE'S THE PAGE CALLED THE PROGRAM OVERVIEW.

>> MR. VELA?

>> MS. POKEMAX POINTED IT OUT TO ME. IT'S 340

>> IF YOU WANT TO JUST WALK US THROUGH THAT ONE MORE TIME.

>> IT'S 340 FOR THE TOTAL BUILDING OCCUPANCY.

>> THAT'S IF WE WERE HAVING A TRAINING AND A BOARD MEETING AND EVERYBODY WAS THERE; IS THAT WHAT THAT MEANS?

>> THAT'S WHERE THE CURRENT EMPLOYED IN OUR FUTURE KNOWN GROWTH.

>> THE 258 PLUS 65?

>> YES, SIR AND THEN THE 280.

>> IS THE VISITORS?

>> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> FOR A BOARD NIGHT OR HAVE YOU, BUT JUST SO WE KNOW, 258 PLUS 65 IS REALLY 323, JUST SAYING. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. MR. VELA.

>> IT'S A HALF-TIME FTE ROUNDUP.

>> THANK YOU. MR. VELA, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON RESTROOMS? MR. SEVERANCE YOU GOT ANOTHER ONE?

>> IT'S ABOUT OCCUPANCY. I'M NOT TRYING TO SOUND CRAZY, BUT LET'S SAY THAT DR. WRIGHT HAS A MEETING IN THE BOARDROOM WITH A 100 PEOPLE DURING THE DAY WHEN EVERYONE'S AT WORK.

IS IT OCCUPANCIES WERE GOOD? WE HAVE ENOUGH? THE 340 INCLUDES A POSSIBLE, A BUNCH OF PEOPLE IN THE BOARD IN THAT AREA, ALSO WITH EVERYBODY ELSE WORKING.

>> FOR THE RECORD, YOU WERE DOING THIS FOR THE PEOPLE LISTENING? YOU WERE SAYING YES. [OVERLAPPING]

>>ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS? I AGREE WITH MR. BAILEY, I LIKE TO SPLIT THIS A LITTLE BIT [NOISE] TO AN OPTION C AND GET RID OF MAYBE THOSE TWO ADDITIONAL ONES, BUT I LIKE KEEPING THE TWO AT THE FRONT.

I DON'T KNOW WHY MS. ROSCOE WANTED TO GET RID OF THOSE, BUT THE ONE IN THE SECURITY ROOM, BECAUSE TO ME THAT ADDS ANOTHER RESTROOM TOWARD THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING.

OTHERWISE, THAT SPACE IS JUST A BIG BOX.

I DON'T KNOW WHY WE WOULD WANT TO GET RID OF THE VESTIBULE.

I LIKE TOO.

WHY WOULD WE ONLY WANT ONE? I WANT MORE RESTROOMS. I THOUGHT WE WANTED MORE RESTROOMS. THAT'S AN EASY ADD, BECAUSE WHAT WE DON'T HAVE ARE A LOT OF SINGLETON RESTROOMS, WHICH I THINK COULD BE HELPFUL FOR BREASTFEEDING MAMAS,

[02:20:08]

OR YOU CAN USE THOSE RESTROOMS FOR OTHER PURPOSES.

>> WE DO HAVE A FEW ROOMS THAT ARE EQUIPPED TO BE MOTHERS' ROOMS.

>> NICE. WE HAVE THOSE IN MY OFFICE. THAT'S GREAT.

TO YOUR POINT EARLIER ABOUT HAVING AN OFFICE NEAR A RESTROOM, I USED TO BACK UP TO THAT ONE AND YOU WOULD JUST HEAR THE FLUSHING ALL DAY LONG.

[LAUGHTER] SO I APPRECIATE THAT YOU THOUGHT ABOUT THAT.

WE'RE GETTING CLOSER.

ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS PAGE, MS. ROSCOE?

>> I'M SORRY, JUST ON THE RESTROOM PAGE?

>> YES. FOR NOW, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE.

DO YOU WANT TO WAIT? MS. TROOP, WHAT ELSE DO YOU WANT TO PRESENT TO US?

>> THE NEXT QUESTION WAS ON THE BREAK ROOMS. FOLLOWING THE RESTROOM SLIDE IS A BREAK ROOM OUTLINE.

WE'VE BROKEN OUT THE VARIOUS TYPES OF BREAK AND REFRESHMENT AREAS THAT ARE SCATTERED THROUGHOUT THE FACILITY.

COFFEE BREAK AREA IS BROKEN BY SIZE.

A 2-3 PERSON SIZE IS SEEN IN THAT GREEN, A 6-8 IS IN THE RED, YOU CAN SEE THEM SCATTERED AROUND.

A MEDIUM 8-12 IN THOSE MID-SIZE DEPARTMENTS, AND THEN SOME LARGER BREAK AREAS IN THE GREEN.

THEN THOSE BLUE ARE ADDRESSING THAT SHARED BREAK SPACE IF YOU REALLY WANT TO BE ABLE TO GET OUT, GET AWAY, GET SOMETHING OUTSIDE OF THE DEPARTMENT.

I GAINED THAT FEEDBACK FROM ONE OF THE VERY EARLY, IT WAS IN THIS ROOM THAT WE WANTED TO HAVE A SPOT FOR ALL THE DEPARTMENTS TO BE ABLE TO COME TOGETHER, BUT I DON'T WANT MY LUNCH BEING STORED OUT AWAY FROM ME, SO TAKING THAT HYBRID APPROACH TO ALL.

>> LET'S TALK ABOUT BREAK ROOMS. MS. ROSCOE.

>> I KNOW I ASKED THIS BEFORE.

THESE BREAK ROOMS THAT HOUSE ANYWHERE FROM 2-50 PLUS PEOPLE, THEY WILL HAVE SEATING IN THAT AREA.

>> THERE IS SEATING AND WE'VE GOT IT INDICATED WITH SOME OF THE FURNITURE LAYOUT THAT YOU CAN SEE.

LIKE ON THE SECOND FLOOR, THERE IS ROOM FOR MORE LARGER TABLES.

WHAT THAT FURNITURE IS, IS STILL TO BE DETERMINED, BUT THERE IS SPACE.

>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT SEATING IS INCLUDED.

YOU CAN'T ASSUME ANYTHING AS I FOUND OUT AS I TOURED DIFFERENT CAMPUSES AND WORK THAT HAS BEEN DONE.

THAT'S IMPORTANT. THEN THE OTHER PIECE IS THAT SHARED BREAK ROOM.

JUST REALLY TRYING TO VISUALIZE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, BECAUSE I'VE HEARD FROM NO WALLS TO MAYBE GLASS, TO THIS AND THAT.

AGAIN, YOU DO HAVE PEOPLE GOING TO AND FROM HR FOR FINGERPRINTS OR FOR TERMINATION OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE AND GOING TO SPECIAL EDUCATION FOR TESTING.

I WOULDN'T WANT TO JUST BE OUT IN THE OPEN FOR EVERYBODY TO SEE ME EATING OR TRYING TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH MY TEAM OR ANYTHING.

YOU NEED SOME SENSE OF PRIVACY.

I REALLY AM INTERESTED ON WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE BECAUSE THIS IS NOT CLEAR FROM THE PICTURE.

>> IT IS SHOWN AS AN EMPTY SPACE RIGHT NOW.

THOUGH WE ARE IN THE PHASE OF BEING ABLE TO START POPULATING AND IDENTIFYING THAT PORTION.

AROUND 50 PERCENT DD IS WHEN WE WILL START DEVELOPING 3D VIEWS, THAT HAVE DETAIL AS TO WHAT THIS IS.

THAT'S TAKING ALL OF THE FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE GOTTEN FROM THE DEPARTMENTS ABOUT HOW THAT MIGHT BE USED.

IT'S NOT YET DEVELOPED, BUT IT IS IN DEVELOPMENT.

>> I KNOW I SAID THIS BEFORE, I DON'T THINK YOU WERE HERE AT OUR LAST MEETING, I'M NOT SURE.

BUT IT ASKS FOR STAKEHOLDER INPUT, AND IT LISTED ALL THESE PEOPLE INCLUDING BOARD MEMBERS.

NO ONE HAS MET WITH US AS A BOARD TO GET INPUT AND FEEDBACK ON EVERYTHING, NOT JUST SAFETY AND SECURITY, BUT THE WHOLE PLAN, ESPECIALLY THE BOARD ROOMS SPECIFICALLY IN THAT WHOLE SUPERINTENDENT WING AREA.

NOT SO MUCH ON DR. WRIGHT'S SECTION, BUT IN THE BOARDROOM AND WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.

I DEFINITELY WANT TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE INPUT ON THAT.

NOT JUST THE SAFETY SECURITY SIDE OF IT, BUT INPUT ON WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

THE SPACE FOR US TO HAVE CUBBIES AND TO HOLD OUR ITEMS AND SUCH.

I REALLY WANT TO HAVE FEEDBACK ON THAT.

THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION IN THE BREAK ROOM.

MR. CLEAVER, WHAT AM I VOTING FOR TODAY? TELL ME I WANT TO KNOW SPECIFICALLY, CAN WE STILL MAKE CHANGES OR IS THIS IT?

[02:25:01]

>> NO, [NOISE] WE CAN ABSOLUTELY STILL MAKE CHANGES.

THIS IS SCHEMATIC DESIGN.

THIS IS JUST THE FIRST STEP IN THE PROCESS.

SCHEMATIC DESIGN, DESIGN DEVELOPMENT, CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS, AND THEN GMP.

WE'VE GOT A LOT OF ROAD AHEAD OF US.

>> I'M GOING TO ASK YOU EVERY SINGLE TIME THIS QUESTION FOR EVERY SINGLE PROJECT, FOR EVERY SINGLE VOTE THAT YOU COME FOR.

>> EXCELLENT.

>> I WANT TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I'M VOTING FOR.

>> BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO HEAR, "WE'RE TOO LATE, WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT." I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.

>> OF WHAT WE'RE VOTING FOR AND WHAT CHANGES WE CAN STILL MAKE.

>> I DEFINITELY LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING IT FLESHED OUT A BIT MORE ON THE BREAK ROOMS AND SUCH, AND TALKING ABOUT THAT BOARDROOM. THANK YOU.

>> MR. CLEAVER?

>> I DID THE BEST CASE SCENARIO ON ALL THE BREAK AREAS AND I JUST TOOK THE HIGHEST NUMBER.

FIRST FLOOR, WE CAN ACCOMMODATE BREAK SPACE FOR 104 PEOPLE.

THEN SECOND FLOOR, WE CAN ACCOMMODATE FOR 69 PEOPLE.

IS THAT ENOUGH, BECAUSE DEPENDING ON THE WORKSPACES AND ALL THAT GOOD STUFF, I GUESS THAT'S MY QUESTION?

>> BASED ON TYPICAL USE CASE AND TIME OF EMPLOYEES IN THIS FACILITY, WE FEEL LIKE THAT WILL MORE THAN ADEQUATELY SERVE.

>> THAT'S OVER A 175 AT 258, AND WITH THAT MANY FOLKS PROBABLY WOULDN'T ALL BE BREAKING IT.

>> THE NEXT WOULD BE 173, BUT AGAIN, [OVERLAPPING] IT'S A ROUND US.

>> OKAY. [LAUGHTER] THANK YOU.

>> YES. I CAN'T ALL BE ON BREAK AT THE SAME TIME.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON BREAK? BREAK AREAS, MR. SEVERANCE?

>> DR. ROY, COULD YOU TELL ME ON THAT HALL AND THAT HUGE VOLUME ON THE FIRST FLOOR, WHAT WOULD WE BE USING THAT EMPTY SPACE FOR?

>> THE HALL? THAT'S THE BREAK AREA.

>> THAT'S A REALLY BIG BREAK AREA.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO PUT TABLES IN IT, BUT I'M JUST CURIOUS.

THAT SEEMS TO BE THE VOLUME OF 15 TO 20 OFFICES THAT WE COULD USE.

I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW OFTEN THAT ENTIRE AREA IS GOING TO BE USED, 100 PLUS PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE USING THAT GREAT HALL AT ONE TIME. I DON'T KNOW.

>> HR ALSO HAD MENTIONED THAT'D BE A PLACE FOR JOB FAIRS.

I CAN ALSO SEE THAT BEING USED JUST A NUMBER OF WAYS, IT'S VERY FLEXIBLE SPACE.

>> I'VE SEEN YOU TALKED ABOUT TRAINING AREAS.

IT'S ADDITIONAL TRAINING SPACE.

>> ADDITIONAL SPACE-BASED FROM THE BOARDROOM AREA THAT THOSE FOUR ROOMS ARE IN THERE AS WELL.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU.

>> ANYTHING ELSE? WELL, I LOVE FLEXIBLE SPACE.

I'M ALL ABOUT IT, AND ONE THING YOU MIGHT CONSIDER IS MEASURING IT FOR ROUNDS BECAUSE YOU COULD DO DINNERS THERE.

YOU CAN HAVE TO USE THE STORAGE SPACE, I KNOW YOU CAN SET THE CLASSROOM SPACE.

BUT YOU MIGHT ALSO LOOK AT ROUNDS AND SEE WHAT THE STORAGE SPACE WOULD BE FOR ROUNDS BECAUSE I'VE WORKED AT LAW FIRMS AND THAT'S WHAT WE DO.

WE CAN FLIP IT FOR CLASSROOM AUDITORIUM OR ROUNDS AND EVEN DO EVENING EVENTS, AND SO YOU CAN HAVE PEOPLE COME OUT AND DO THAT.

I KNOW YOU'VE GOT THE STORAGE SPACE, SO YOU MIGHT CONSIDER MEASURING FOR THAT.

MS. ROSCOE'S POINT KEEPS BRINGING UP THESE CUBBIES AND I FEEL LIKE IT'S RIDICULOUS TO ASK, BUT I WANT TO TELL YOU SOMETHING.

SHE'S ONTO SOMETHING BECAUSE A LOT OF COMPANIES HAVE GONE TO HYBRID WORKING AND HOTELLING AND THAT AT SOME POINT WE MAY OUT CAPACITY THIS, AND SO WHAT WE'VE DONE AT MY LAW FIRM IS THAT ON SOME OF THE COMMON WALLS WE HAVE LOCKERS THAT ARE LIKE ONES YOU HAVE AT A GYM WHERE YOU PUT IT IN YOUR FOUR-DIGIT CODE FOR YOUR PURSE, FOR YOUR BACKPACK, FOR YOUR GYM CLOTHES, IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO RUN WHATEVER.

NO OFFICE IS REALLY ANYBODY'S OFFICE ANYMORE.

MAYBE A FEW OF THE PARTNERS GET THEIR OFFICES.

BUT WE HAVE STILL STATIONS WHERE WE HAVE THESE LOCKERS, AND IT'S PRETTY GREAT, AND SO THAT'S MAYBE SOMETHING YOU THINK ABOUT IN THE DESIGN FOR JUST FUTURE CAPACITY.

UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU MAY GET TO A PLACE FOR WE'RE HOTELLING OR DOING HYBRID WORK FOR FOLKS.

IT'S NOT A BAD IDEA.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> I'M SURE YOU'VE SEEN THAT IN DESIGN.

WE JUST OPENED A BIG FANCY BUILDING, WE HAVE A BEER TAP AND A NITRO BREW TAP, AND I'M SURE A LOT [OVERLAPPING].

THEY MIGHT FROWN ON THAT, BUT LAW FIRMS DON'T SEEM TO MIND.

JUST TAKE OUR CASE. YES, MS. ROSCOE?

[02:30:03]

>> THIS MIC IS DRIVING ME NUTS.

[NOISE] DEFINITELY, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA FOR CUBBIES FOR OUR EMPLOYEES.

BECAUSE I KNOW IN MY WORK WE HAVE TO BOOK OUR DESK.

WE BOOK OUR DESK BECAUSE WE'RE NOT ALWAYS IN THE OFFICE, SO THERE'S A LOT OF THESE FOLKS THAT WILL BE ON CAMPUS, THAT WILL BE SERVICING STUDENTS, AND SO ON.

THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO LOOK AT AS WELL WHERE THEY BOOK THEIR DESK AND THEY HAVE A CUBBY TO PUT THEIR STUFF WHEN THEY ARE THERE.

BUT I WANT CUBBIES FOR BOARD MEMBERS TO PUT THEIR COATS AND THEIR PURSES AND ALL THAT STUFF.

THEY'RE LOCKED AREAS FOR THEM TO BE SECURE, AND I THINK JERRY TOLD ME, "WELL, YOU CAN JUST PUT IT IN THE CLOSED SESSION ROOM." YEAH. WELL, THEN I NEED TO GO FIND SOMEBODY TO DO THE KEY TO OPEN IT UP.

THAT'S RIDICULOUS.

WE NEED OUR AREAS, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE OUR PURSES AND OUR BAGS AND EVERYTHING RIGHT HERE ON THE DAIS.

MAKING SURE TO MAKE THAT DISTINCTION.

CUBBIES FOR THE WORKERS, BUT ALSO A CUBBY SPACE, WALKER SPACE FOR US.

BUT THINKING ABOUT THAT, THOSE REMOTE WORKERS ARE THE ONES THAT WORK ON CAMPUS, NOT SO MUCH REMOTE. THANK YOU.

>> YEAH. THAT'S A REALLY GOOD POINT TOO, AND ONE MORE THING ON THE BREAK AREA, THE ONLY PERSON OR THE ONLY DEPARTMENT THAT DOESN'T HAVE ONE IN THEIR SPACES, CNI, I'M SORRY, NOT CNI, SPECIAL EDUCATION, BUT THERE'S A REALLY BIG ONE NEAR THEM.

I'M HOPING THEY'RE OKAY WITH THAT.

>> WE STRUGGLE WITH WHERE TO DRAW THAT LINE.

WE RECEIVED EARLY FEEDBACK THAT CNI INSTEAD ARE THE SAME.

FOR PROGRAMMING PURPOSES, IT'S BROKEN OUT INTO SEPARATE, BUT THERE'S NOT A WALL IN BETWEEN THOSE TWO GRAY COLORS.

>> I GOT YOU. YEAH. THEY ARE UNDER THE SAME ROOF.

I LOVE THAT.

THAT DOES MAKE SENSE, AND I THINK IT'S GOOD THAT THAT HAS A BIGGER BREAK AREA.

THEN THE BLUE ONE, I GUESS COULD HAVE SOME FURNITURE OR SOME OTHER THINGS TO HELP WITH THAT AS WELL.

WELL, THANK YOU. YES. THAT WAS INTENTIONAL.

I LOVE IT. [LAUGHTER] WHAT'S NEXT, MRS. DUKE?

>> WE WERE ONTO THE BOARD ROOM LOOKING AT THE VARIOUS LAYOUTS FOR THE FOUR TYPES OF SPACES AND TALKING THROUGH HOW THE BOARD ROOM FUNCTIONS. THE NEXT SLIDE.

>> DO WE HAVE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE?

>> IT'S JUST SHOWING THE TYPICAL USE CASES WHEN THE BOARDROOM IS BROKEN UP INTO THE FOUR QUADRANTS.

THE LARGE BOARD IS INTENDED TO BE ABLE TO DIVIDE INTO FOUR SO THAT IT CAN BE USED FOR VARIOUS PURPOSES.

>> WELL, THIS ONE SHOWS SIX QUADRANTS, THAT IS WHY I'M ASKING.

I'M ON THE WRONG PAGE, APPARENTLY.

>> OH, YES. THAT'S THE RIGHT PAGE.

THE ONE ON THE LEFT, THE FURNITURE IS ARRANGED FOR A TYPICAL BOARD MEETING NIGHT, AND ON OPTION ON THE RIGHT WAS IF YOU WERE USING IT FOR FOUR DIFFERENT FUNCTIONS.

>> THE PAGE BEFORE THAT SHOWS THE VOTING, IF YOU PUT IN TWO VOTING BLOCKS AND IT SHOWED LIKE SIX QUADRANTS.

>> THOSE ARE ITERATIONS OF HOW WE GOT TO WHERE WE WERE.

>> I GOT YOU. IT'S VERY FLEXIBLE SPACE. I LOVE IT.

LET'S STOP THERE.

IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE ON HERE YOU WANT US TO KNOW ABOUT? WE CAN DO WORKSHOP STYLE.

>> FOLDING CAN HAPPEN INDEPENDENTLY OF ACTIVITIES WITHIN THE SPACE.

>> YOU'VE TALKED TO MS. BORRISON ABOUT ALL THE TECHNOLOGY OR YOU WILL? MS. ROSCOE?

>> TECHNOLOGY IS HUGE.

I'VE BEEN TO SEVERAL NEW BOARDROOMS WHERE THEY DID NOT HAVE ENOUGH PLUGS OR THE PLUGS WERE NOT LONG ENOUGH.

THE OUTLETS WERE TOO FAR, THEY COULDN'T DO IT, THE MICROPHONES DIDN'T WORK.

THERE WAS A LOT OF TECHNICAL ISSUES FACED WITH TECHNOLOGY AND EVERYTHING, SO WE NEED TO BE REAL CAREFUL WITH THAT.

THEN ALSO, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO HAVE THAT CAPABILITY FOR THAT INFORMAL SETTING.

I KNOW YOU SAID WE WOULD HAVE IT WHERE WE HAVE OUR FIXED BOARD DAIS.

WE HAVE THAT FIXED DAIS, BUT WE ALSO STILL HAVE THE ABILITY AND THE MICROPHONE CAPABILITY AND VIDEO CAMERA DISTANCE TO HAVE THAT INFORMAL MEETING WHEN WE DO BUDGET WORKSHOP AND SUCH, MAKING SURE YOU ALL INCLUDE THE TABLES AND ALL OF THAT.

JUST KEEPING THAT IN MIND BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE TO BE THE TABLES MAKING SURE THAT THE VIDEO CATCHES IT AND THE MICROPHONES.

I'VE SEEN IT WHERE THEY HAVE MICROPHONES ON THE DAIS AND THEN THEY HAVE MICROPHONES ON THE CEILING OVER THE INFORMAL SETTING TO CAPTURE THAT FOR VIDEO CAPABILITIES AS WELL.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE OF THAT.

>> ABSOLUTELY. ANYTHING ELSE? WHAT'S NEXT?

[02:35:06]

>> I BELIEVE THE LAST QUESTION WAS ON HR.

IN THE ENTRANCE INTO HR, THERE IS A HUMAN RESOURCES SLIDE PAGE THAT SHOWS AN OPTION THAT WOULD HAVE A SECONDARY EXIT.

WE TALKED ABOUT COMING INTO THE SECURE ENTRY VESTIBULE IS OPTION TO GO INTO ONE SMALL GROUP ROOM, AND THAT GROUP ROOM HAS A DOOR ONTO THE SECURE SIDE, THAT'S A ONE-WAY DOOR, SO IT HAS TO BE A BADGED ACCESS.

BUT THEN IF SOMEONE WANTED TO BE ESCORTED OUT OF THERE AND EXIT THROUGH A DIFFERENT DOOR OTHER THAN THE FRONT DOOR.

THIS IS WHAT OTHER OPTION ON THE BOTTOM IS SHOWING THAT, THAT COULD HAPPEN.

TEAM, I LIKE THAT WE'VE GOT SOME OPTIONS.

I'M HOPING DR. MEDINA HAS WEIGHED IN ON WHAT HE PREFERS.

>> ON THIS PARTICULAR ONE.

IT HAPPENED VERY QUICKLY, SO WE ARE NOT [OVERLAPPING]-

>> WHICH ONE DID YOU LIKE BEST?

>> THE PLAN THAT WE HAVE SEEN WITH HIS TEAM AND LANDED ON IS THE TOP PLAN.

>> OKAY. NO NEED FOR A SECOND EXIT FOR A QUICK EXIT STRATEGY?

>> NOT THROUGH THE HR DEPARTMENT.

>> GOT IT.

>> CONVERSATIONS AT THAT TIME WAS, CONVERSATIONS BACK THERE SHOULD NOT BE HEARD BY ANYONE OTHER THAN HR.

>> PERFECT. I DO LIKE THAT THERE'S A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT LANDING AREAS OR RECEPTION WAITING AREAS FOR FOLKS THAT MIGHT BE WAITING FOR A MEETING OR INTERVIEW.

DR. MEDINA PREFERRED THE TOP.

TEAM, ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS? MRS. ROSCOE?

>> WHY DO WE HAVE SO MANY CONFERENCE ROOMS?

>> THESE ARE THE, STARTING ON THE LEFT, THE ORANGE ONE, THAT IS THIS BED TESTING ROOM.

THEN MOVING ACROSS THE THREE THAT ARE IN TANDEM ARE TRAINING ROOMS AND CONFERENCE ROOMS. WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING NOW IS OPERABLE WALLS THAT CAN OPEN THAT UP SO THEY CAN HAVE ROOM FOR 30-50 FOLKS IN AN ASSEMBLY STYLE, OR IT CAN BE USED AS NORMAL CONFERENCING SPACE JUST SO THOSE ROOMS GET A LOT OF WORK AND USE OUT OF THEM.

>> IT'S REMOVABLE WALLS, YOU SAID OR.

>> MRS. ROSCOE, THAT'S WHERE THE ONBOARDING IS GOING TO HAPPEN, SO THOSE ARE GOING TO BE SOME VERY BUSY ROOMS.

>> WHERE'S THE FINGERPRINTING?

>> IF YOU FOLLOW THE ARROW POINTING UP INTO THE DOUBLE DOORS SUITE, STRAIGHT AHEAD OVER TO THE RIGHT.

ON THE FAR RIGHT SIDE, MIDDLE OF THE YELLOW PLANE.

>> THERE'S NOTHING IN THAT ROOM RIGHT NOW, THERE'S NO FURNITURE THERE, IS THAT IT?

>> I'M SORRY.

WHERE? THANK YOU.

WHAT WAS JERRY'S TAKE ON THE SAFETY AND SECURITY ISSUE PIECE OF THAT, LIKE HAVING THAT ADDITIONAL EXIT OR HAVING AN EXIT ENTRANCE FOR HR? SHE WEIGH IN ON THAT?

>> SHE DID. WE ORIGINALLY HAD MORE ENTRANCES AND WE STREAMLINED IT TO ONE PUBLIC ENTRANCE.

WE WANT TO FUNNEL THE PUBLIC TO ONE ENTRANCE AND TRY TO FUNNEL THE EMPLOYEES TO ONE ENTRANCE.

SHE WAS ALL ON BOARD WITH HAVING LESS ENTRANCES.

>> ANYTHING ELSE ON OUR HR LAYOUT? I KNOW I WAS PRETTY PASSIONATE ABOUT THEM HAVING THEIR OWN ENTRANCE, BUT AFTER SEEING WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE, I FEEL GOOD ABOUT THIS AND AS LONG AS DR. MEDINA'S WEIGHT IN, I AM GOOD.

ANYTHING ELSE? MS. DUKE, WHAT ELSE?

>> I BELIEVE THAT WAS THE LAST OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE HAD RECEIVED IF THERE ARE ANY OTHERS.

>> THE ONLY OTHER THING I WILL SAY, AND I KNOW THIS MAY BE REALLY EXPENSIVE, SO MAYBE DON'T DO IT.

BUT, SO YOU KNOW HOW THOSE THREE CONFERENCE ROOMS HAVE DIVIDER WALLS THIS WAY, THERE'S ALSO WAYS TO DO DIVIDER WALLS THIS WAY THAT WOULD OPEN UP THAT SPACE ONTO THE MALL AREA.

YOU COULD HAVE THAT SPACE BE LIKE, AGAIN, IF YOU WERE DOING A REALLY BIG EVENT, YOU COULD USE THAT AS ALMOST LIKE YOUR FOOD AND BEVERAGE AREA, OR YOU'RE CATERING AREA AND THEN HAVE THAT WHOLE MALL AREA TO DO STUFF.

I DON'T KNOW, THE EVENT PLANNER IN ME IS REALLY WANTS TO

[02:40:04]

USE THIS SPACE FOR ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT PROBABLY PEOPLE DON'T [OVERLAPPING]-

>> AGREE THAT WOULD HAVE A LOT [INAUDIBLE]

>> [LAUGHTER] AGAIN, YOU HAVE TO HAVE MOVABLE FURNITURE AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE STORAGE FOR ALL THE FURNITURE THAT YOU MIGHT MOVE AROUND.

BUT THERE ARE SOME OPTIONS.

YOU JUST HAVE TO BE CAREFUL BECAUSE THOSE ROOMS ARE PRIVATE AND YOU DON'T WANT THE SOUND TO COME THROUGH AND SO IT GETS TRICKY.

ANYTHING ELSE, MR. SEPARATES?

>> YOU GUYS HAVE GONE THROUGH A LOT OF MY QUESTIONS.

THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE RELATES TO SINCE WE'RE NOT DOING THE BASEMENT, SO TO SPEAK, WE MOVE THAT OVER TO THE EXISTING BUILDING, THE TECHNOLOGY BUILDING AS NOW AND WE'RE GOING TO ADD ONTO THAT, IT LOOKS LIKE A LITTLE BIT, IN MY TECHNOLOGY ANNEX.

IS THAT WHERE THAT TECHNOLOGY ANNEX IS GOING TO BE? TWO QUESTIONS.

NUMBER 1, IS IT'S STILL GOING TO HAVE THE CUSTOMER SERVICE DROP-OFF FOR TABLETS AND ALL THAT STUFF, PEOPLE CAN COME IN AND THEY ARE PONY EXPRESS GUYS, IS THAT WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO LIVE AND DISSEMINATE MAIL AND PEOPLE CAN BRING IN LAPTOPS OR DEVICES TO BE LOOKED AT A WORKOUT.

IS THAT STILL GOING TO HAPPEN OUT OF THAT NOW THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN OUT OF THAT ANNEX BUILDING THAT'S BY THE ROAD?

>> THERE ARE MULTIPLE BAY DELIVERIES FOR REGULAR SIZE AND LARGE SIZE TRUCKS.

THE INFORMATION WE RECEIVED LAST TIME WE MET WITH TECHNOLOGY WAS THAT, COMMUNITY WOULD NO LONGER BE BRINGING DEVICES TO THAT LOCATION, THAT WOULD MOVE BACK TO THE CAMPUS LEVEL.

THAT WAS A PANDEMIC WORK AROUND.

THAT ASPECT, ALTHOUGH IT COULD, IS NOT PLANNED TO HAPPEN HERE ANY LONGER.

THAT WOULD BE AT A CAMPUS LEVEL, FOR COMMUNITY BRINGING DEVICES.

BUT YOUR REGULAR DELIVERIES WOULD HAPPEN BOTH HERE AT THIS ANNEX AS WELL AS YOUR TYPICAL FEDEX TRUCK DELIVERIES WOULD HAPPEN TO THE MAIN BUILDING.

>> THE CNI WAREHOUSE AND THE TECHNOLOGY WAREHOUSE BOTH WILL HAVE LOADING DOCKS ON THAT?

>> CORRECT.

>> THEN I'M LOOKING AT JUST ON THE, WHICH I'LL PROVIDE, THE FLOOR PLAN TECHNOLOGY ANNEX.

WHERE'S THAT GOING TO BE?

>> THAT IS PART OF THAT'S THE BLUE PORTION OF THE BUILDING OFF TO THE SIDE ON THE SITE PLAN.

>> THAT'S THE CURRENT VOTING BUILDING.

>> CORRECT. THEN THE ORANGE IS THE ADDED PORTION.

>> RENOVATED.

>> RENOVATED PORTION.

>> IT JUST LOOKS LIKE THAT IN THAT SECTION, WE STILL HAVE THAT ENTRANCE WHERE PEOPLE CAN BRING STUFF AND DROP IT OFF.

IT JUST LOOKS VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT THE BASEMENT LOOKED LIKE IN THE PREVIOUS ONE.

BUT YOU'RE SAYING THAT'S NOT [OVERLAPPING]-

>> FUNCTIONALLY, IT COULD STILL OPERATE THAT WAY.

WE JUST LEARNED THAT THAT IS NOT HOW THE TECHNOLOGY WILL BE RECEIVING DEVICES ANY LONGER.

>> OKAY. THEN MY LAST QUESTION WOULD BE ON THE PORT OF CACHE, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE ON THIS BUILDING, OR CAN WE JUST NOT DO A PORT CACHE ON THE FRONT, DO WE NEED THAT? I'M SURE PEOPLE COULD JUST RUNNING AND DROPPING STUFF.

I DON'T KNOW, I'M JUST WANT TO KNOW THE PHILOSOPHY BEHIND ADDING THAT ON THERE.

>> WE'RE JUST IN SCHEMATIC DESIGN.

THAT'S THE DRAWING AND THAT WE'RE HERE TO MAKE THE SAUSAGE.

>> OKAY. IT'S NOT FIXED.

>> IT'S NOT. WE'RE JUST SCHEMATIC DESIGN.

>> ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS PAGE? I WANT TO GO BACK REAL QUICK TO THE BOARDROOM BECAUSE MRS. ROSCOE BROUGHT UP A THING AND WE TALKED ABOUT TECHNOLOGY, BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY FOR THE RECORD, WHILE MS. BORRISON IS LISTENING, HOPEFULLY, THAT WILL PROBABLY NEED A THREE CAMERAS SETUP, WOULD BE MY GUESS AND THE MICROPHONES, WE'LL HAVE TO FIGURE THAT OUT.

I DON'T LOVE THE ONES THAT HANG FROM THE CEILING BECAUSE YOU CAN'T CONTROL WHETHER THEY'RE ON OR OFF AS EASILY.

BUT WE CAN GET THERE WHEN WE GET THERE, BUT I THINK THE THREE CAMERAS SETUP, WE PROBABLY NEED TO TELL YOU SOONER THAN LATER.

>> SURE THANKS.

>> I DON'T APPRECIATE CLOSE-UPS AT ALL, AND I'M NOT ADVOCATING FOR THAT, BUT I DO FEEL LIKE IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS, WE MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER SOME DIFFERENT OPTIONS.

BECAUSE WHEN YOU WATCH THESE, YOU CAN'T SEE.

IT WOULD BE NICE TO BE ABLE TO SEE WHO'S SPEAKING AT THE PODIUM.

IT WOULD BE NICE TO OBVIOUSLY THEY SEE US.

BUT RIGHT NOW, I CURRENTLY SEE THE BACK OF THEIR HEADS.

IT'D BE NICE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT WITH SWAG IT.

THEN WHEN WE DID IT, WE DID A WORKSHOP WHERE THEY WEREN'T JUST LOOKING AT THE BACK OF OUR HEADS, WE CAN FIGURE SOMETHING DIFFERENT OUT.

I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT FOR THE RECORD.

>> THE LAST PART THAT WE ADDED IS THAT FUTURE EDITION.

THIS IS FUTURE BEYOND OUR CURRENT PLAN FUTURE.

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THAT'S SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN.

IT'S APPROXIMATELY 20,000 SQUARE FEET, THEY COULD GROW OUT ON THAT SIDE OF THE BUILDING.

>> WHAT PAGE IS AT ON? WHERE ARE WE AT?

>> IT'S ON THE SITE.

>> AT THE VERY BEGINNING OR THE SITE PLAN? [NOISE] JUST FOR THE RECORD, I CAN TELL THAT WE'RE GOING TO KEEP OUR EXISTING BUILDINGS.

I'M ASSUMING WE'LL REPURPOSE OR DO SOMETHING WITH THOSE.

THEN OVER HERE, THIS EXISTING BUILDING, TECHNOLOGY RENOVATION, [NOISE] WE'LL DO SOME THINGS TO IT AND MAKE IT NICER.

IS THAT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT?

>> THE CURRENT ADMIN BUILDING?

>> I DON'T THINK IT'S THE CURRENT ADMIN BUILDING.

IT'S THIS ONE OFF TO THE SIDE HERE THAT SAYS.

>> YEAH, THAT'S THE OLD TRANSPORTATION ADMIN AND THAT WILL BE REPURPOSED INTO THE WAREHOUSE IN PART OF TECHNOLOGY.

>> OKAY. THEN THE FUTURE GROWTH, YOU SAID WOULD BE WHERE?

>> IT'S ON THE LIGHT BLUE BOX.

>> OH, YEAH.

WHERE THE PARKING IS. GREAT. ANY QUESTIONS ON ANYTHING ELSE? YES.

>> PARKING.

>> YEP.

>> I SEE IT IN THE [NOISE] PROJECTED FINISH OUR ELTON AND PARKING AS WELL. WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT PARKING?

>> HOW MANY PARKING SPOTS DO WE HAVE HERE?

>> OH BOY.

>> I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER RIGHT UP MY HEAD, BUT WE CAN GET THAT NUMBER FOR YOU.

>> FROM CONVERSATIONS, I KNOW IT IS MORE THAN CODE MINIMUM.

I DO KNOW THAT. WE'RE FILLING THE SIDE BASICALLY.

>> WHEN WE HAVE BOARD MEETINGS EARLY AND WE HAD SOME ATTENDEES FROM THE PUBLIC, WE'D STILL HAVE SOME SPACE FOR THAT.

NORMALLY WE'RE AT NIGHT AND EVERYBODY'S CLEARED OUT.

GREAT. IF YOU COULD GET US A NUMBER OF PARKING SPOTS AT THE ADMIN, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, MAYBE GREAT.

ANYTHING ELSE? WELL, THIS IS EXCITING.

>> IT IS. [NOISE]

>> WE'RE READY TO VOTE ON THIS ITEM.

I'M SUPER-EXCITED WE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD.

MOVED BY MR. MCMANUS, SECONDED BY MS. RUNKLE.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES 7:0.

GREAT JOB.. NEXT UP WE HAVE THE DD FOR LIVE OAK ACADEMY.

[L.19. Consideration and possible approval of the design development (DD) for the 2021 Bond improvements at Live Oak Academy]

MR. CLEAVER IS AGAIN HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THIS IS ON PAGE 160 TO 161 IN YOUR AGENDA PACKET.

ANY QUESTIONS ON LIVE OAK? MR. SEVERANCE?

>> THIS RELATES TO JUST PARKING, BECAUSE LIVING ON THE FPLC, I KNOW THAT IT'S HIGH SCHOOLS HAVE BEEN UP FOR POSSIBLY SOME PARKING ADDITION FOR AWHILE, AND THEN WE DECIDED NOT TO DO THAT ON THE LAST BOND BECAUSE THE ENROLLMENT DIDN'T SUPPORT IT.

I DO KNOW THAT THEY MOVED THE SENIOR PARKING LOT FROM RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF THE GYM OR FROM THE STADIUM OVER TO, I DON'T KNOW WHAT SIDE OF THE STADIUM THAT IS, BUT RIGHT THERE BETWEEN THE MAIN ENTRANCE AND THE STADIUM THAT'S NOW STAFF PARKING, CORRECT? AT LIVE OAK, I WAS WONDERING THE ADDITIONAL PARKING THAT WE'RE PUTTING IN THERE, THERE'S A LITTLE PATCH OF GRASS THAT MY CALCULATION COULD HANDLE ABOUT ANOTHER 65-75 SPOTS BACK HERE.

IF WE WERE TO LOOK AT ADDING THAT, WOULD WE BE ABLE TO THEN MOVE ALL OF CAMPUS STAFF PARKING TO THIS NEW PARKING BY LIVE OAK AND THEN GIVE THAT CENTER SPOT BACK TO THE SENIORS TO PAINT AND SCHOOL SPIRIT IN-BETWEEN WHERE EVERYTHING'S GOING ON? I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD LOOK AT OR IF THAT'S EVEN IMPORTANT FOR US TO TALK ABOUT.

BUT I JUST FIGURED IF WE'RE ALREADY DOING SOME PARKING SPOTS BASED ON THE AREAS WHERE IT LOOKS LIKE A LITTLE BIT OF PATCH OF GRASS BEHIND LIVE OAK THAT WE COULD CONVERT THE PARKING TOO.

JUST IF WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS PARKING, WE CAN DO ALL THE PARKING AND THAT FELL SWOOP AND THEN NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT DOWN THE ROAD.

[02:50:01]

>> YES, SIR. WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT THAT.

I DO KNOW THAT WE HAD SOME ISSUES WITH THAT BEN EDWARDS AQUIFER RECHARGE AREA AND SO WE WERE HAVING, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHERE WE LANDED, BUT THERE WERE SOME CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THERE'S NOT ENOUGH SPACE TO ACTUALLY PUT IT IN DETENTION PONDS.

I THINK WE'RE PUTTING IN PERVIOUS PAVERS AND SO THERE ARE SOME CALCULATIONS WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT.

BUT JUST BECAUSE THE REAL ESTATE IS THERE DOESN'T MEAN NECESSARILY MEAN WE COULD PUT SOMETHING THERE, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT THAT.

I'D WANT TO GET WITH THE PRINCIPAL AND GO THROUGH THAT WHOLE SCENARIO WHERE THERE WAS A LOT OF MOVIES YOU'VE JUST DESCRIBED AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT WORKED.

>> YEAH, THAT'D BE GREAT. JUST SO IF WE CAN KILL TWO BIRDS WITH ONE STONE BY DOING THAT, THAT WOULD BE NICE NOT TO BRING THAT BACK UP ANOTHER BOND AGAIN DOWN THE ROAD.

>> THE QUESTION WAS, CAN WE MOVE ALL STAFF PARKING TOO? WOULD YOU REPEAT, YOU GOT IT?

>> JUST TO ADDRESS THAT, I THOUGHT MR. CLEAVER, WE HAVE THAT IN THE BOND AND IT FAILED TO RE-PURPOSE THOSE SOFTBALL FIELDS INTO PARKING.

[OVERLAPPING] WOULD YOU REFRESH MY MEMORY ON THAT?

>> YEAH. THAT'S RIGHT.

I DON'T THINK IT ACTUALLY MADE THE LIST.

>> IT DIDN'T MAKE THE LIST?

>> THAT'S RIGHT. I THINK IT CAME OFF LAST.

>> BUT I HOPE IT DOES SOMETHING BECAUSE IT STILL SAYS REBEL SOFT BALL OVER THAT FACILITY.

IT'S STILL SAYS REBEL SOFTBALL ALL OVER THAT FACILITY WHEN I DRIVE BY IT AND I WOULD LOVE FOR IT TO BE SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

PARKING IS A COMMODITY FOR SURE.

I DON'T KNOW IF THE SENIORS WANT TO MOVE BACK THERE, MR. SEVERANCE, AND I ONLY SAY THAT, BUT BECAUSE THERE ARE VERY FEW SPOTS IN THAT SENIOR PARKING AREA AND THERE'S A LOT MORE SENIORS THAN THERE ARE.

I THINK THERE'S MORE ROOM AT THE NEW SENIOR. MRS. BEDWELL KNOW.

WELL, I JUST KNOW THAT IT WAS GET THERE AT 05:00 AM AND GET IN LINE AND YOU MIGHT GET YOUR SENIOR SPOT WHERE IT WAS IN THE OLD PARKING LOT.

MRS. BEDWELL, DO YOU HAVE ANY BACKGROUND ON, DO THEY LIKE WHERE THE NEW SENIORS PARKING IS?

>> I THINK JUST IN GENERAL WHEN JOHNSON OPENED AND IT BROUGHT THE POPULATION DOWN, WE DON'T HAVE ANY STUDENT PARKING ISSUES CURRENTLY.

>> GREAT.

>> IT'S JUST NOT A BIG DEAL RIGHT NOW.

>> OKAY. FANTASTIC.

>> RIGHT NOW.

NOT RIGHT NOW.

>> WE'RE GOOD FOR NOW.

>> OKAY. THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW.

NOBODY SAID THAT THE SENIORS LOT MOVED OVER THERE? GOT IT.

BUT WE DO NEED PARKING AND WE DO NEED TO REPURPOSE THE REBEL SOFTBALL FIELD WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION AT SOME POINT.

ANYTHING ELSE ON LIVE OAK, MR. ROSCOE?

>> MR. CLEAVER.

>> WHAT ARE WE VOTING ON TONIGHT, AND WILL WE BE ABLE TO MAKE ANY CHANGES MOVING FORWARD?

>> YES. YOU'RE VOTING ON THE DESIGN DEVELOPMENT TONIGHT, AND YES, YOU STILL HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE CHANGES.

>> AGAIN, WALLS, DOOR SWINGS, THAT KIND OF THING, NOT GIANT FOOTPRINT THINGS.

>> DON'T GET ALL MACHIAVEL SHOWING ME NOW [LAUGHTER] ABOUT COLOR SCHEMES.

>> I'M JUST KIDDING. MR. AGNEW HAS BLESSED THIS.

HE IS EXCITED ABOUT IT.

>> I THINK HE IS.

WE'VE GONE THROUGH SEVERAL ITERATIONS AND I LIKE WORKING WITH MR. AGNEW BECAUSE HE DEFINITELY GETS RIGHT TO IT AND TELLS YOU WHAT HE BELIEVES, WHAT HE THINKS.

>> GREAT.

>> HE'S GREAT TO WORK WITH.

>>ALL RIGHT. WHEN WILL CONSTRUCTION START IF WE VOTE ON THIS TONIGHT?

>> SEE WE STILL HAVE GMP TO CONSIDER IN OCTOBER. I'VE GOT THE SCHEDULE.

I CAN GET THAT FOR YOU.

I BELIEVE WE WERE TRYING ON THIS ONE.

THIS ONE HAS TO DOVETAIL IN [OVERLAPPING]

>> I THINK MS. HANNAH KNOWS THE ANSWERS.

>> DOVETAIL IN WITH THE ACADEMIC SUPPORT CENTER.

>> PHASE 1 OF CONSTRUCTION WOULD START IN JUNE IN SUMMER AND WOULD JUST BE THROUGH NEXT SUMMER OF 2023.

THEN AS SOON AS CNI MOVES OUT OF THE OTHER HALF OF LIVE OAK THEN THAT WHERE IT COULD START HOPEFULLY IN MARCH OF 2024 GOING THROUGH.

>> THERE WILL BE A LITTLE BIT OF FITS AND STARTS WITH THIS ONE AS WE PLAY THE SHELL GAME WITH PEOPLE AND MOVE THEM ALL AROUND.

>> THAT'S RIGHT. TWO PHASES. THAT'S RIGHT.

EXACTLY RIGHT. PHASE II IS WHERE THE CURRICULUM IS NOW.

>> OKAY. WELL, WE DON'T WANT THE PUBLIC TO BE LIKE THEY'D BEEN WORKING ON THAT BUILDING FOR FIVE YEARS OR TWO OR WHATEVER IT IS.

BUT YES, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO SOME THINGS AND THEN WAIT AND THEN DO SOME MORE THINGS.

OKAY, GREAT. ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS? THE SUGGESTED MOTION IS THAT THE HAYS CISD BOARD OF TRUSTEES APPROVE THE DESIGN DEVELOPMENT FOR

[02:55:01]

THE 2021 BOND IMPROVEMENTS AT LIVE OAK ACADEMY DESIGNED BY O'CONNELL ROBERTSON ARCHITECTS AS PRESENTED.

>> SUBMIT.

>> MOVED BY MS. RUNKLE.

SECONDED BY DR. PEREZ GONZALEZ.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT, MOTION CARRIES 7:0.

[L.20. Consideration and possible approval of the Guaranteed Maximum Price (GMP) from Bartlett Cocke for 2021 Bond improvements to Chapa Middle School and Simon Middle School]

LAST ON THE LIST OF ACTION ITEMS FOR THIS EVENING, THIS IS THE GMP FOR A CHAPA AND SIMON MIDDLE SCHOOL.

NOT TOO MANY CHANGES CAN BE MADE AFTER THIS VOTE.

>> NO, MA'AM. THAT ONE SEE IT. THAT ONE'S FINAL.

>> I'LL GO AHEAD AND SAVE YOU THAT QUESTION MAYBE.