CAN YOU HEAR ME? OH, THAT'S BETTER.
[A. CALL TO ORDER: Establish a quorum]
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ARE WE READY? OKAY.GOOD EVENING. WELCOME TO THE HAYS CISD SPECIAL BOARD MEETING THIS EVENING.
WE APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU BEING HERE AND THOSE LISTENING ONLINE.
TODAY IS MONDAY, FEBRUARY 6TH.
A QUORUM HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED.
ALL MEMBERS OF THE BOARD ARE PRESENT.
[B. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO UNITED STATES AND TEXAS FLAGS]
THANK YOU SO MUCH.OUR MISSION STATEMENT WILL BE READ BY BOARD VICE PRESIDENT RAUL VELA.
[C. MISSION STATEMENT]
ALL RIGHT. THE MISSION OF HAYS CISD IS TO EDUCATE, VALUE AND NURTURE STUDENTS THROUGH INNOVATIVE AND PERSONALIZED EDUCATIONAL EXPERIENCES WHILE CELEBRATING OUR DIVERSITY.[D. SOCIAL CONTRACT]
THANK YOU, MR. VELA. I'LL READ OUR SOCIAL CONTRACT THIS EVENING.THE BOARD WILL SERVE AS DISTRICT AMBASSADORS.
ALL RIGHT. ITEM E IS PUBLIC FORUM.
[E. PUBLIC FORUM]
MS.. GLORIA, IS THIS OUR ONLY ONE TONIGHT? OKAY. PERFECT.I WILL HAVE TO READ A LITTLE THING HERE.
ALL RIGHT. SO AS PART OF OUR BOARD MEETING, PURSUANT TO BOARD POLICY BED LOCAL, THIS IS THE ONLY TIME OUR PUBLIC CAN ADDRESS THE BOARD.
MR. JOEL, YOU'LL HAVE 5 MINUTES TO SPEAK.
MISS GLORIA WILL PUT UP A TIMER FOR YOU AND THEN TAP ON THAT MIC AND MAKE SURE IT'S TURNED ON.
YOU MAY HAVE TO MAY HAVE TO CLICK IT ON.
THERE'S MAYBE A SWITCH ON THE TOP.
AND WHAT'S TELLING HERE IS THAT JOHNSON IS GETTING LUMPED IN WITH ALL THE REALLY BIG NEED ITEMS, AND LAYMAN STUFF IS GETTING LUMPED IN WITH THE FLUFF THAT THAT PROBABLY ISN'T GOING TO HAVE VERY MUCH VOTER APPROVAL AND GOING TO GET VOTED DOWN.
WITH ALL THE WITH THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL THAT IS DEFINITELY NEEDED.
AND IF YOU ALL HAVEN'T SEEN I'VE POSTED A NEW VIDEO TODAY.
BUT THE EXPANSION TO GO FROM 2250 TO 2800 FOR JOHNSON WAS $37.3 MILLION.
SO WHY ARE WE SPENDING SO MUCH MORE MONEY ON JOHNSON THAN WE ARE ON LEHMAN? AND NOT ONLY THAT, BUT THEN YOU'RE LUMPING THIS THE JOHNSON EXPANSION IN ITEMS IN WITH AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WHICH YOU KNOW IS GOING TO GET BROAD SUPPORT.
SO THIS IS KNOWN AS PORK BARRELING IN CONGRESS.
AND I'M JUST GOING TO CALL IT WHAT IT IS.
SO ALL OF LEHMAN STUFF THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE ADDITION OF ORCHESTRA IS IN PROP B.
BUT YOU LEFT JOHNSON'S ORCHESTRA EDITION, WHICH IS THE NEW BAND HAWK.
AND YOU POISONED PEELED LEHMAN'S BY, INCLUDING IN PROP B, THAT $52 MILLION PROJECT WHERE WE'RE
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GOING TO PUT THREE COVERED PRACTICE FIELDS IN AT $17 MILLION APIECE WHEN A COSTCO ONLY COSTS $15.3 MILLION TO BUILD.THAT'S 84,000 SQUARE FEET FOR THE LITTLE COVERED PAVILION IN COMPARISON TO 161,000 SQUARE FEET, FULLY ENCLOSED BRICK FACADE.
OKAY. YOU KNOW, THAT'S A POISON PILL.
SO. THIS DISPARITY STUFF AND JOHNSON AND THE NORTH HAYES COUNTY NORTH SIDE OF HAYES COUNTY AND THE DISPARITY IN IN EVERYTHING.
AND IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE VIDEO I POSTED, YOU MIGHT WANT TO WATCH IT.
AND I JUST POSTED IT TODAY AND I'LL BE POSTING IT ON OTHER SOCIAL MEDIA GROUPS.
I BROKE IT DOWN, DID THE MATH, PUT IT IN A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION.
AND I HAVE TO POST IT BECAUSE YOU WON'T ANSWER QUESTIONS TO US.
IF I ASK YOU INDIVIDUALLY, YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE ME AN ANSWER.
THE SONG AND DANCE THING TO TRY TO PACIFY ME.
BUT YOU WON'T ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS TO THE VOTING PUBLIC AND THE PEOPLE THAT ARE TIRED OF THIS.
LAYMAN IS TIRED OF IT, AND HAYES IS TIRED OF IT.
THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE FUNDS ARE GOING TO THE NORTH SIDE OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. JEWELL. THAT CONCLUDES OUR PUBLIC FORUM TONIGHT.
NEXT UP, TEAM, WE ARE GOING TO DISCUSS OUR BOND PROJECTS TONIGHT.
[F.1. Discuss Bond Projects and Potential Propositions for May 2023 Bond]
AND WE ARE GOING TO GET SOME RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE DISTRICT, WHICH IS WHAT WE HAVE TONIGHT.AND THEN WE WILL AS A BOARD, TALK THROUGH EACH PROPOSITION, EACH PROJECT, IF WE NEED TO, AND MAKE SOME DETERMINATIONS AS TO HOW WE WANT TO PACKAGE THESE FOR THE VOTERS.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT MR. CLEAVER, DR. WRIGHT, MR. SAVOY HAVE PREPARED SOME REMARKS FOR US AS WE GET INTO OUR DISCUSSION.
SO WE'LL FIRST HEAR FROM OUR ADMINISTRATION ON SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND YOU'LL NOTICE SOME OF THESE HAVE CHANGED SINCE THE LAST TIME WE MET.
SO WE'RE GOING TO GET SOME EXPLANATION ABOUT THAT.
GOOD EVENING, BOARD MEMBERS AND AUDIENCE AND PEOPLE ON LINE.
SO AS WE MENTIONED IN THE PUBLIC FORUMS, WE TOLD YOU THAT WE WOULD HAVE A ADMINISTRATIVE RECOMMENDATION TO YOU FOR THIS MEETING SO THAT YOU GUYS COULD DISCUSS COLLECTIVELY. AND ONE OF MY GOALS WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KEPT THE TOTAL AMOUNT BELOW WHAT OUR OUR KIND OF MEDIUM CAPACITY WAS FOR OUR OUR GROWTH.
AND SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KEPT IT UNDER 365 MILLION.
AND YOU'LL SEE THAT WE WERE ABLE TO DO THAT AND WE HAD TO TO CHANGE SOME PROJECTS AROUND AND MOVE THEM FORWARD SO THAT THEY WILL APPEAR ON ON THE NEXT BOND ISSUE, WHICH WE'RE LOOKING AT AROUND 25 UNLESS YOU GUYS MOVE SOME THINGS AROUND TONIGHT.
AND SO LET'S LET'S TALK ABOUT KIND OF THE OVERVIEW OF THIS PACKAGE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
SO WE HAVE RECOMMENDED THAT WE DIVIDE IT INTO THREE PACKAGES.
PROP A IS THE GENERAL PURPOSE PACKAGE WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT ONGOING MAINTENANCE, LOOKING AT ALL OF THE THE NEW ADDITIONS AND NEW SCHOOLS FOR FOR GROWTH AND SPEAKING OF THAT, WE GAVE YOU IN YOUR DAIS FOLDER A COPY OF THE LATEST DEMOGRAPHERS PROJECTIONS SO THAT YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE WHERE THE GROWTH IS TAKING PLACE.
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ZONDA, OUR PREVIOUS DEMOGRAPHER, TO PASSA, OUR CURRENT DEMOGRAPHER, WE SAW QUITE AN INCREASE IN THE PROJECTED NUMBER OF HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS.AND SO WHEN WE WERE BRAINSTORMING AND MEETING WITH THE FACILITIES AND BOND OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE, WE TALKED ABOUT ELEVATING THE HIGH SCHOOL CAPACITY TO FUNCTIONAL CAPACITY OF 2800, WHICH WOULD PROVIDE ROUGHLY 600 OR MORE SEATS ON THE HIGH SCHOOL CAMPUSES.
AND THAT WAY WE WOULD BE IN LINE WITH THE OTHER 6A SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT WE COMPETE WITH IN OUR AREA AS FAR AS UIL IS CONCERNED, AND THEN ALSO FOR MASTER SCHEDULING FOR OUR TEACHERS, INSTEAD OF HAVING MULTIPLE PREPS, ESPECIALLY THOSE HIGHER LEVEL ADVANCED ACADEMIC COURSES, WE CAN HAVE MORE CLASSES THAT MAKE BECAUSE WE HAVE MORE STUDENTS THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO SERVE.
AND SO WHEN WE SAY WE WANT TO RAISE THE FUNCTIONAL CAPACITY UP TO 2800, 3000 IS KIND OF THE MID RANGE AND 3200 IS THE TOP RANGE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT.
AND SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR HIGH SCHOOL NUMBERS, YOU'LL YOU SEE RIGHT NOW.
THAT WE HAVE PROJECTED FOR 2024 HAYS AT 2300, JOHNSON AT 2900, LEHMAN AT 2245.
AND SO WE THINK THAT BY ADDING CAPACITY AT EACH OF OUR THREE HIGH SCHOOLS MOVING FORWARD, AS WELL AS A FOURTH COMPREHENSIVE HIGH SCHOOL, WE'LL BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF THE GROWTH THAT IS BEING PROJECTED BY PASSA FOR OUR HIGH SCHOOL.
SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTOOD ABOUT THE HIGH SCHOOL CAPACITY PIECE.
AND AND SO PEOPLE STILL HAVE THAT IN THEIR MIND, BUT THE BUILDING WASN'T BUILT FOR THAT MANY.
AND SO PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN WE ADD CAPACITY TO THESE SCHOOLS AS IT'S NEEDED, WE'LL ADD SQUARE FOOTAGE PER STUDENT, WHICH WILL GIVE THAT CAPACITY SO IT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE IT'S OVERCROWDED.
SO I WANTED TO I WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE AS WELL.
AND SO OUR ORIGINAL DEMOGRAPHERS, EVERYBODY ASKS, WHY ARE WE WHY ARE WE ADDRESSING JOHNSON AND WHY DIDN'T YOU PLAN FOR THIS? OUR ORIGINAL DEMOGRAPHERS DIDN'T HAVE JOHNSON GROWING AT THE RATE THAT IT IS GROWING.
AND IT'S ONE OF THOSE PHENOMENA THAT IF YOU IF YOU BUILD IT, THEY WILL COME.
AND SO WE'VE HAD AN INFLUX OF OF STUDENTS THAT ARE GOING TO THAT SCHOOL.
AND SO IT ACTUALLY GREW FASTER THAN THE DEMOGRAPHER HAD EARLIER SUGGESTED.
AND SO LOOKING AT THAT CAPACITY AND LOOKING AT THE PARTICIPATION RATES FOR ALL OF THE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE IN CTE AND FINE ARTS AND ATHLETICS, WE HAVE PROBABLY OUR HIGHEST PARTICIPATION RATES AT JOHNSON HIGH SCHOOL AND EACH ONE OF THOSE AREAS AS COMPARED TO THE OTHER TWO SCHOOLS CURRENTLY.
WE RENAMED THE PROPOSITION B CO-CURRICULAR GROWTH BECAUSE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE, WE FEEL LIKE THE GREATEST FORM OF MENTAL HEALTH IS TO HAVE A KID CONNECTED IN SOMETHING THAT'S GREATER THAN THEMSELVES SO THAT THEY'LL HAVE A PEER NETWORK OF SUPPORT AND A COACH, A SPONSOR THAT CAN BE AN ADULT ADVOCATE FOR THEM.
AND SO THE 100% HAYS CONCEPT IS WORKING.
WE'RE GETTING A GREATER NUMBER OF KIDS THAT ARE PARTICIPATING, WHICH IS WONDERFUL.
AND SO WE NEED ADDITIONAL PLACES FOR THEM TO REHEARSE AND PRACTICE.
SO LET'S TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE CHANGED AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
WHEN OUR ADMINISTRATIVE TEAM GOT TOGETHER AND WE WERE LOOKING AT THIS AND WE WERE TRYING TO WHITTLE DOWN THAT LIST FROM 423 MILLION TO BELOW 365 MILLION, WE REALIZED THAT ALL OF THE PROJECTS ARE IMPORTANT AND BUT WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY TO DO THEM ALL AT ONE TIME.
AND SO WE RECOMMENDED THAT WE MOVE THE WEIGHT ROOMS AT EACH OF THE THREE HIGH SCHOOLS TO THE TO A FUTURE BOND, AS WELL AS THE CTE PUBLIC SAFETY AND TRAINING ACADEMY.
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CONSTRUCTION ON THE ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPORT CENTER.AND THEN WHEN WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT ELEMENTARY CAPACITY AND GROWTH, WE REFLECTED ON THE ELM GROVE PROJECT, WHERE WE RAISED THE STUDENT CAPACITY UP TO 900 AND AND WE WERE ABLE TO ADD ON TO THAT FACILITY.
AND THEN WE STARTED THINKING ABOUT TOM GREEN AND KYLE IN PARTICULAR, AND WE KNOW WE NEED TO GIVE BOTH OF THOSE SCHOOLS SOME LOVE, BUT WE ALSO WANT TO ELEVATE THEIR CAPACITY UP TO 900 SO THAT WHEN WE LOOK AT A FUTURE REZONE, WHEN YOU ADD THE NUMBERS UP BETWEEN THOSE FOUR SCHOOLS, THAT IN AND OF ITSELF IS AN ADDITIONAL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
SO WE FEEL LIKE IT'S IT'S IT'S MORE FEASIBLE AND MORE COST EFFECTIVE TO ADD ON TO SOME OF THOSE BUILDINGS WHERE WE ACTUALLY HAVE THE LAND TO DO SO. AND THAT WAY WE'RE NOT JUST BAND AIDING A FACILITY, BUT IN THE INSTANCE OF TOM GREEN AND KYLE, WE WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THEM MORE NEW THAN OLD.
AND AND SO THERE'S PLENTY OF PROPERTY THERE.
AND IN TALKING WITH MAX'S TEAM, IF WE WERE TO GET A GOOD DESIGN ON THAT, THEN IF WE PUSH IT TO THE MAY 25 BOND, THEN WITH THESE DESIGN SERVICES WE COULD BE SHOVEL READY IN JUNE OF 25 AND WE COULD OPEN UP THOSE FACILITIES IN JUNE OF 26. SO THAT KIND OF ACCELERATES THAT THAT TIMELINE AND GIVES YOU MORE ELEMENTARY CAPACITY, WHICH MEANS THAT IF WE GO THIS ROUTE, WE'LL BE LOOKING AT A REZONING TO KIND OF BALANCE OUR SCHOOLS OUT TO GET TO THOSE CAPACITIES, WHICH WILL HELP US WITH ADDITIONAL SEATS AND POTENTIALLY SAVE MONEY ON THE COST OF A NEW ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
BUT ALONG WITH ALL OF THE THE OTHER FEES AND THE FF&E, WE AND WITH PRICING ESCALATION, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE BUILT IN SOME CONTINGENCY, BUT IT'S AROUND 75 MILLION THAT WE HAVE BUDGETED FOR THAT.
HOPEFULLY THAT'S GOING TO BE WELL OVER THE AMOUNT THAT'S REQUIRED.
BUT IN THE MARKET THAT WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW, WE JUST WE WEREN'T SURE.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S CHANGED.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE LEFT IN SOME MONEY FOR TOM GREEN AND KYLE BECAUSE THEY ARE OUR OLDEST FACILITIES AND WE WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND GET THEM NEW FURNITURE, IF POSSIBLE, TO AT LEAST GIVE THEM SOMETHING NEW THAT WE CAN USE.
THE OTHER THING THAT WE ADDED WAS FOR THE IMPACT CENTER.
AND MAX HAS BUILT IN SOME POSSIBILITIES FOR FOR THAT, ALONG WITH FENCING GATES.
AND SO WE'VE ADDED A LITTLE BIT TO THAT SCOPE AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
AND THEN YOU CAN SEE AT THE BOTTOM AND THE PINK.
THE INITIAL DESIGN FEES FOR KES TOM GREEN FOR FUENTES AND HEMPHILL.
AND SO BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO TO MAX AND TIM, I JUST WANTED WANTED THE PEOPLE IN PUBLIC TO KNOW THAT WE WE READ THE COMMENTS FROM BOND TALK. WE LISTENED TO THE COMMENTS AT PUBLIC FORUM AND HEARD LOTS OF FAVORABLE COMMENTS FOR THE DIFFERENT FINE ARTS, ATHLETICS AND CTE PROJECTS IN THE PUBLIC FORUMS AND THEN ON THE BOND TALK.
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MONEY? AND AND SO IT MADE ME THINK THAT WE NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB OF EDUCATING THE PUBLIC.THERE ARE TWO POTS OF MONEY IN PUBLIC EDUCATION.
ONE IS THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS BUDGET, WHICH IS YOUR IS YOUR DAY TO DAY OPERATIONS.
AND THAT'S WHERE YOUR SALARIES COME FROM.
SO THEY ARE MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE.
AND SO YOU CAN'T FUND ANY TYPE OF OF EVERYDAY SALARIES AND YOU CAN YOU CAN FUND SOME BOND RELATED POSITIONS WITH THIS LIKE THE PROJECT MANAGERS, BUT YOU CAN'T FUND YOUR REGULAR M&O BUDGET OUT OF OUR INS BUDGET.
SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS CLEAR.
AND WE HEARD SOME MORE TONIGHT.
AND AND SO SINCE 2014, WE DID A BREAKDOWN.
AND MAX HAS THE EXACT NUMBERS OF THE SPEND AT EACH ONE OF OUR HIGH SCHOOL CAMPUSES.
BUT SINCE JUST SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE AND I DIDN'T DO THE MATH ON IT.
BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING AT A WORKING ON ADDING A SCIENCE WING AT HAYS HIGH SCHOOL.
AND SO WE TOTALLY REDID THE GYMNASIUM, THE FLOOR, THE PAINTING, THE BLEACHERS, ALL THE THINGS IN THE UNIFORMS. AND I KNOW WE SPENT OVER $1,000,000 JUST TO JUST TO REBRAND.
AND SO WE WANTED THAT TO BE KNOWN.
AND AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE REACHED OUT TO ME JUST KEEP ASKING, YOU KNOW, ARE YOU GOING TO RAISE OUR TAX RATE? IF THE BOARD CALLS FOR THIS PARTICULAR ELECTION AND THERE IS NO PROPOSED TAX RATE INCREASE AND AND THEN THEY ALSO ASK ME KIND OF WHAT WE MENTIONED DURING THE BOND PUBLIC FORUMS, YOU KNOW, WHY IS AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL COSTING $75 MILLION NOW WHEN FIVE YEARS AGO WE WERE BUILDING THEM FOR 38 MILLION? AND THE ANSWER IS, IS JUST THE MARKET IN THE SUPPLY CHAIN AND JUST PRICE ESCALATION AND INFLATION.
AND SO WANTED TO TRY TO HIT SOME OF THOSE THINGS FROM FROM THE DIFFERENT TOPICS THAT WE'VE READ ABOUT AND HOPEFULLY THAT'LL KICK US OFF IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
AND WHICH ONE OF YOU GUYS WANT TO GO NEXT? TIM. WE WENT A LITTLE OUT OF ORDER ON OUR PRESENTATION.
MY JOB TODAY WAS TO INTRODUCE TO YOU DR.
ERIC WRIGHT, OUR SUPERINTENDENT.
WRIGHT AND MAX AND THE FPOC AND EVERYBODY HAS PUT INTO THIS.
AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, I'M JUST KIND OF I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THE THANK THE THE PROPOSITION TWO THAT'S THE CO CURRICULAR GROWTH INITIALLY WAS WAS TO KIND OF GROUP ALL OF THE FINE ARTS AND ATHLETICS AND THE CTE ITEMS TOGETHER AND THAT MAY HAVE BEEN ON THE BAND HALL THAT MAY BE SOMETHING IF THEY WANTED TO LOOK AT TO GO OVER TO PROP TWO TO TO KIND OF ADDRESS SOME FEEDBACK THAT WE HEARD TONIGHT.
THE VET TECH, THOUGH, THE VET TECH, ALTHOUGH A CTE WOULD HAVE TO STAY IN PROPOSITION EIGHT BECAUSE IT'S TIED TO THE ACADEMIC EDITION, THE ACADEMIC EDITION WOULD MAKE ROOM FOR THE VET TECH PROGRAM, WHICH WOULD FREE UP THAT LINE ITEM TO EXPAND THE COSMETOLOGY.
IT WOULD WIND UP KIND OF LIKE WE DID WITH LIVE OAK, WHERE YOU CAN EXPAND LIVE OAK BECAUSE IT PASSED IN ONE PROJECT, BUT YOU CAN'T BECAUSE ALL THE STUFF YOU WERE GOING TO MOVE OUT OF THE WAY DIDN'T PASS AND THAT SO THAT MIGHT BE, THAT MIGHT BE AN ADJUSTMENT THERE TO MAKE IT MORE TRUE TO FORM.
AND SO THAT'S KIND OF HOW THAT GROUPING CAME TO BE.
THE FIRST WOULD BE A GENERAL PURPOSE PROPOSITION.
AND OF COURSE THE TECHNOLOGY PROPOSITION C WOULD BE REQUIRED BY LAW TO BE ITS OWN PROPOSITION.
AND THAT'S THE THAT'S HOW WE GOT TO THE THREE.
TONIGHT'S GOAL, AGAIN, IS TO HAVE YOU ALL NOT VOTE PER SE, BUT TO BE IN A CONSENSUS ON WHAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE IN A BOND ELECTION ORDER, BECAUSE WE HAVE OUR BOND COUNCIL HERE AND THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE WHAT YOU COME UP WITH TONIGHT AND THEY'RE GOING TO DRAFT UP THE BOND ELECTION ORDER
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THAT THIS WENT UP TO 179 PAGE NOTES.SO THEY GET LOCKED SO THAT THAT WOULD BE DRAFTED THIS WEEK AND THEN IT WOULD GO TO YOU FOR CONSIDERATION AND ADOPTION NEXT MONDAY BECAUSE THE LEGAL DEADLINE TO ADOPT IF YOU CHOOSE TO HAVE A BOND FOR MAY WOULD BE NOT THIS FRIDAY BUT FRIDAY THE 17TH.
AND WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO MAX.
THANK YOU, TIM. THANK YOU, DR.
WRIGHT. I WAS TRYING TO CHECK THESE OFF AS I WENT.
THEY HIT MOST OF MY POINTS OF DOUBLE, DOUBLE, DOUBLE THUNDER STOLEN.
BUT THANK YOU ALL FOR FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO TALK.
THE FIRST THING ABOUT THE LIST, PLEASE DO CONSIDER THE DESIGN FEES.
YOU KNOW, WE WERE VERY SUCCESSFUL AT SUN FIELD WHEN WE'RE SHOVEL READY.
AND SO SPREADING IT OUT IS BY CHOICE, AND THAT IS BY DESIGN.
AND AGAIN, THAT IS THAT IS WHAT WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT.
WITH THAT SAID, ITEM NUMBER 32 ON THIS LIST.
DO YOU HAVE THE LIST THAT'S NUMBERED? ALL THE WAY DOWN, JHS ALL PURPOSE INDOOR SPACE.
SO WE'RE JUST GOING TO CHANGE THAT TITLE FOR.
IT ALREADY SAYS PRACTICE GYM IN REHEARSAL SPACE.
PERFECT. OK SO GOOD. THAT NEEDS TO SAY THAT.
DR. WRIGHT MENTIONED WE HAVE SOME DATA FROM PAST BONDS.
SO GOING BACK TO 2010, 2014, IF YOU GO BACK TO 2014 AND ALSO THEN INCLUDE THESE PROPOSED 2023 ITEMS, IF YOU WERE TO TAKE OUT THE ACTUAL COST OF JOHNSON HIGH SCHOOL, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT PUTTING IN THE COST OF THE OTHER HIGH SCHOOLS, WE WILL HAVE SPENT OR PROPOSED TO SPEND ABOUT 88 MILLION AT JOHNSON HIGH SCHOOL, 98 MILLION AT HAYES HIGH SCHOOL, AND IT WOULD BE ABOUT 122 AT LEHMAN HIGH SCHOOL IF WITH WITH THOSE NUMBERS. AND THEN THE LAST ITEM TO TALK ABOUT IS AGAIN THE WHAT WHAT PROPOSITION.
THANKS GO IN IS Y'ALLS DECISION.
ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING TO PUT INTO PROP A, WHICH COULD ALSO BE IN PROP B IS THE LAMAN HIGH SCHOOL BASEBALL SOFTBALL FACILITY RENOVATIONS. IF YOU LOOK ON THAT LIST, IT'S ITEM NUMBER 15, IT SAYS IN PARENTHESES EQUITY UPGRADES.
AND SO THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.
THANK YOU, MR. CLEAVER. THANK YOU, DR.
SO FOR AND I THINK WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL START WITH PROP C AND I, WE'LL WORK OUR WAY BACK AND AND JUST KNOW THAT PROP A IS AND I'M HOPING YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS ONE THAT HAS THE BLUE AND THE YELLOW AND THE AND THE SORT OF SALMON COLOR AT THE BOTTOM THAT THE PROP A IS THE TOP PORTION AND THEN THERE'S A HANDFUL AT THE BOTTOM THAT ARE ALSO PART OF PROP BAY.
OKAY. SO WE'LL START WITH PROP C, WHICH WE'VE BEEN REMINDED TONIGHT HAS TO BE ITS OWN PROPOSITION.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, CONCERNS ABOUT THIS PROPOSITION? YES, MRS. OROSCO, I.
DR. WRIGHT, SO THIS IS JUST INFRASTRUCTURE? NO NEW COMPUTERS OR ANYTHING.
I KNOW THAT WE HAD TO PURCHASE A LOT OF COMPUTERS BEFORE TO MAKE IT 1 TO 1.
SO WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT INFRASTRUCTURE, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. INFRASTRUCTURE AND OPERATING SYSTEM FOR OUR BUSINESS.
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ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT REPLACING MUNIS.OKAY, THAT'S WHAT I NEEDED TO KNOW.
THANKS. THANK YOU FOR ASKING THAT QUESTION.
I WAS WONDERING THE SAME THING.
SO THIS WOULD IS IT SKYWARD OR WHATEVER? WE'RE LOOKING FOR DIFFERENT ONES.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS TEAM ON THIS ITEM? AND THIS DOESN'T INCLUDE ANYTHING WITH THE ADMIN BUILDING ALL THAT SEPARATE FF&E WITH THE ADMIN BUILDING.
ALL RIGHT. I THINK WE HAVE A PROPOSITION C THEN.
WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS TO HAVE YOU ASK QUESTIONS.
WHAT ARE YOUR CONCERNS? ARE THERE THINGS YOU WANT TO MOVE OUT OF THIS? ARE THE THINGS THAT YOU WANT TO MOVE INTO THIS? OUR BOND COUNCIL IS HERE TONIGHT, SO IF WE NEED ANY LEGAL ADVICE ON THIS, WE HAVE THAT AVAILABLE TO US.
SO WHEN I SAY SORRY, CAN I REALLY HEAR ME? SO WHEN I INITIALLY GOT THIS AND WE WERE LOOKING AT IT, WHEN I LOOK AT THIS, I LOOK AT CLASSROOMS ON PROP A, WHAT IS PUTTING IN WHAT'S A CLASSROOM? SO WHEN I LOOK AT THE LEHMAN AUDITORIUM, THEATER CLASSROOMS AND CTE CLASSROOMS AND THE LEHMAN ORCHESTRA HALL AND MARIACHI HALL.
TO ME THAT SHOULD BE IN PROP A, SINCE THAT IS A FACILITY AND CLASSROOMS NOT UNDER THE CO-CURRICULAR.
I'M OKAY WITH WHERE THE OTHER ONES ARE.
I DID HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE STORAGE AT LEHMAN.
IF SOMEONE CAN TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT.
MR. CLEAVER IS THAT YOU? LHS STORAGE AND GROUNDS BUILDING PROVIDE STORAGE FOR ATHLETICS AND FINE ARTS 8000 SQUARE FEET AT $2.8 MILLION.
YES, MA'AM. THAT'S ON THE I CALL IT THE LOWER FIELD, SORT OF DOWN ON THE NORTH SIDE OF EXCUSE ME, THE SOUTH SIDE OF LEHMAN, WHERE YOU GO DOWN BELOW THE COMPETITION FIELD.
I MEAN, I'VE BEEN IN THERE, I THINK LIKE THEY HAVE IT IN LIKE LOCKER ROOMS AND IN VARIOUS MAYBE PATTI CAN BOTH LANCE AND PATTI ARE HERE AND AND ALSO JUST FOR INTRODUCTION PURPOSES.
OUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR, DUSTY TRAYLOR, IS HERE TONIGHT.
ALSO, IF Y'ALL HAVE FINANCIAL QUESTIONS, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WELL, I MEAN, I WOULD JUST KIND OF LIKE TO OPEN IT UP AND KIND OF SEE HOW OTHERS FEEL ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THOSE TWO SPECIFIC LINE ITEMS BEING MOVED TO PROP A.
IS THIS THE AUTO TECH CLASSROOMS FOR LEHMAN OR ARE THAT SOMEWHERE ELSE THAT I.
THAT'S CORRECT. IT'S TWO AUTO TECH CLASSROOMS AND I BELIEVE IN A HORTICULTURE CLASSROOM.
OKAY. SO THOSE ARE ALL JUST KIND OF LUMPED TOGETHER.
IS THERE A LEGAL REASON THAT THESE HAVE TO BE IN A SEPARATE BOND PROPOSITION? NO, MA'AM. EVERYTHING HERE IS EVERYTHING ON THIS LIST EXCEPT TECHNOLOGY CAN BE IN ONE PROP, SO THERE IS NO LEGAL REASON IT HAS TO BE IN PROP B.
OKAY, IT WAS AT YOUR QUESTION.
I'M SORRY. YES. OKAY, THAT'S MY QUESTION.
ALL RIGHT. MS. RUNKLE MADE A RECOMMENDATION TO MOVE THE LHS AUDITORIUM, THEATER, CLASSROOMS AND CT CLASSROOMS TO PROP A.
AND THE ORCHESTRA HALL AND MARIACHI.
MR. VELA? YEAH. I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH MS..
RUNKLE. I KNOW SEVERAL OF US HAVE VISITED LEHMAN SPECIFICALLY FOR THE CONCERNS ABOUT THEATER.
YOU KNOW, THE BAND HALL, THE MARIACHI.
I MEAN, JUST, YOU KNOW, JUST THE CAPACITY FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO FUNCTION AND TO BE ABLE TO EVEN, YOU KNOW, COMPETE AT, YOU KNOW, ONE ACT PLAYS AND ALL THOSE, THOSE ARE IMPORTANT. AND WE KNOW THAT THE WHAT IS IT? THE BLACK BOX THEATER IS NOT VERY ACCOMMODATING FOR THAT FUNCTIONALITY FOR, YOU KNOW, BEING 100% HAYS BEING COMPETITIVE AT THOSE LEVELS. AND I, I THINK THOSE ARE VERY IMPORTANT FOR THAT CAMPUS.
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WE'VE ALSO TALKED ABOUT RELIEVING SPACE AT THE PACK, AND WE KNOW THAT THERE'S SEVERAL EVENTS AT THE PACT.AND WHAT I KNOW ON THAT CREW, OF COURSE, ARE LOOKING AT THAT CALENDAR.
SO I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT THOSE LEHMAN ADDITIONS OR RENOVATIONS ARE ADDED INTO PROPOSITION A.
OKAY. THANKS, MR. VELA. ANYONE ELSE HAVE COMMENTS ON PROP B? MR. MCMANUS. EXCUSE ME.
SO I'M AFRAID THAT IF WE DON'T CLEARLY DELINEATE BETWEEN GENERAL PURPOSE AND CO-CURRICULAR, BUT IF WE SORT OF MIX AND MATCH THOSE THINGS, IT'S GOING TO BE VERY CONFUSING FOR VOTERS.
AND SO I'M NOT SAYING I FEEL STRONGLY ONE WAY OR THE OTHER ABOUT WHICH COLUMN IT OUGHT TO BE.
THE BAND HALL I HEARD MENTIONED THE RENOVATIONS TO THE BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL FIELDS.
IT'S STILL PRETTY CLEARLY TO ME A CO-CURRICULAR SORT OF THING.
I WOULD ALSO SAY THE SAME THING, ALTHOUGH THIS ONE IS WE ARE WE'RE MIXING SOME THINGS TOGETHER AT THIS TIME THAT ARE CONFUSING TO ME ON SINGLE LINES LIKE RETAINING WALL AND TRACK THAT FEELS CO-CURRICULAR TO ME AS WELL, BUT MAYBE IT'S NOT.
AND THE PARKING AND DRIVE FOR BASEBALL SOFTBALL, IN MY OPINION, OUGHT TO ALSO BE IN PROP B.
I JUST THROW ALL THAT OUT THERE.
I FEEL LIKE ANYTHING THAT TOUCHES NON CORE ACADEMIC CO CURRICULAR SORT OF STUFF OUGHT TO BE IN PROP B, I'M WOULD INCLUDE THE ORCHESTRA HALL AND MARIACHI HALL IN THAT.
I'M OPEN TO HAVING THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THE AUDITORIUM, THEATER, CLASSROOMS AND CTE CLASSROOMS AND JUST TO LET THE REST OF THE BOARD KNOW WHERE I STAND, I'M SURE THERE'S PROBABLY SUPPORT FOR IT, BUT I AM NOT IN SUPPORT OF THE MULTIPURPOSE PAVILIONS AT ALL.
AND I THINK THAT $52 MILLION OUGHT TO BE TAKEN OFF OF THIS BOND.
BUT THE CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT GOES IN A AND B, I DON'T KNOW.
OTHERWISE IT'S GOING TO BE WHY IS THIS ONE HERE AND NOT HERE WHEN IT'S ALL CO-CURRICULAR? SO I THINK WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL WITH THAT.
GREAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. MCMANUS. ANYONE ELSE? MRS. OROSCO.
I DEFINITELY AGREE WITH MR. MCMANUS. IT GETS A LITTLE BIT MURKY, IF YOU WILL, WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO PUT BAND HALL HERE AND PROP A, BUT THAT'S BAND HALL AND BAND BAND HALL SHOULD BE IN PROP B, SO I DEFINITELY THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO CALL SOMETHING CO-CURRICULAR, THEN WE NEED TO PUT THOSE CO-CURRICULAR ITEMS IN THERE.
NOW WITH THAT BEING SAID, DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE CANNOT BREAK SOME OF THESE LINE ITEMS APART, LIKE THE LEHMAN AUDITORIUM, THEATER, CLASSROOM AND CTE CLASSROOMS. WE CAN BREAK THOSE THINGS APART JUST LIKE WE CAN LOOK AT IF IT'S A CLASSROOM FOR ACADEMICS AND DEFINITELY BELONGS IN PROP A AND MAKING THAT DISTINCTION.
ANYTHING ELSE, LIKE MR. MCMANUS SAID, THAT TOUCHES ATHLETICS OR FINE ARTS OR THE CO CURRICULAR SHOULD BE IN CO-CURRICULAR AND DEFINITELY APPRECIATING THAT EQUITY UPGRADES. BUT SINCE IT IS A CO CURRICULAR, I WILL LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT WE MOVE THAT TO PROP B AS WELL.
SO WE NEED TO BE VERY CLEAR IF WE'RE GOING TO DO BAND ORCHESTRA FOR ONE SCHOOL IN PROP EIGHT, THEN WE NEED TO DO IT FOR THE OTHER AS WELL. IF NOT, THEN WE NEED TO CLEARLY GO WITH OR WE CAN CHANGE THE NAMES OF THESE PROPS AS WELL AND MAKE THEM MORE OPEN. LIKE MR. CLEAVER SAID AND DR.
RIGHT, WE DON'T HAVE TO GROUP EVERYTHING.
WE HAVE SOME OPTIONS ON HOW TO GROUP IT IF WE WANT TO GROUP IT, BUT STICK WITH SOMETHING INSTEAD OF JUST PUTTING EVERYTHING MIXED IN TOGETHER.
THANKS SO MUCH, MR. SEVERANCE.
LIKE THE JOHNSON REHEARSAL HALL.
MOVE OVER. I'M OKAY WITH THAT.
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, IF WE DECIDE THAT WE'RE THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON.DO WE NEED TO DO THE HAYES HIGH SCHOOL PARKING LOT WORK BECAUSE OF WHERE THE POSITION OF WHERE THAT IS GOING TO BE WOULD BE THE DRIVER OF WHY WE HAVE TO DO THE PARKING. SAME WITH WITH LEHMAN HIGH SCHOOL AND THEN SAME WITH THE STORM WATER RETENTION STUFF.
SO IF A PROJECT IS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DOING THIS AND IT HAS TO DO WE HAVE TO DO A DRIVEWAY BECAUSE WE'RE DOING THIS, THEN I LIKE FOR THE WORK FOR THE DRIVEWAY TO BE TIED TO THE PROJECT THAT IS GOING TO REQUIRE WHAT WE'RE DOING.
SO I'M NOT SURE IF YOU CAN MAYBE GO THROUGH SOME OF THESE AND, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, LEHMAN, YOU KNOW, THE CIRCULAR, THE ENLARGE, THE VEHICULAR CONNECTOR, I BELIEVE YOU HAVE THAT AS THE LEHMAN HIGH SCHOOL SERVICE DRIVE? OR IS THAT NORTH CONNECTING DRIVE? FOR 351,000.
WHAT WE PLAN TO DO IN OUR PRACTICE HAS BEEN IF THE BOARD CHOOSES TO CALL FOR A BOND ELECTION AND SHOULD THAT BE SUCCESSFULLY VOTED BY YOU? THEN WE PUT TOGETHER AN INFORMATION SHEET WHICH WILL BE DIFFERENT FROM THESE PLANNING SHEETS, AND WE ALL BUNDLE MOSTLY FOR THE SPACE BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO GIANT. WE'LL TAKE ALL THE PROJECTS THAT ARE KIND OF TIED TOGETHER, LIKE THE DRIVEWAY OR THE RETENTION POND IF IT'S DEPENDENT ON ANOTHER AND WE CAN PUT IT IN AS ONE LIGHT AND LIGHT ON THEM ON THE INFORMATION SHEET AND JUST IN THE NARRATIVE BUNDLE, YOU KNOW, RETENTION POND AND THIS OTHER THING THAT HAS TO GO WITH THAT, THE REASON IT'S MORE BROKEN OUT HERE SO YOU CAN GET INTO THE GRANULAR LEVEL A LITTLE BETTER AND SEE WHAT EACH INDIVIDUAL ITEMS COST.
YEAH YEAH. THIS COMING FROM FBOC WHERE IT'S ALMOST DOWN TO LIKE $2 A TILE, YOU KNOW, AND THEN IT SORT OF BUNDLES UP AND THEN TO MAKE IT MORE UNDERSTANDABLE AND WHAT'S CONNECTED ON THE INFORMATION SHEET, WE WOULD, WE WOULD DO THAT.
OH YOU'RE RIGHT. YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL.
YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S DEPENDENT ON SOMETHING ELSE BEING TWO PROPOSITIONS.
BECAUSE IF ONE OF THEM PASSES AND THE OTHER DOESN'T, THEN YOU CAN DO NEITHER.
BUT THEN. BUT THEN IF IT PASSES ONE US OR THE OTHER, THEN WE'RE JUST GOING TO RETURN THAT MONEY.
LIKE WE'RE JUST GOING TO RETURN THAT MONEY BACK TO THE TAXPAYER.
BECAUSE IF THAT PROJECT WAS TIED TO A PROJECT THAT DIDN'T PASS, THEN WE WOULDN'T BE DOING.
BUT THEN THE ACADEMIC SUPPORT BUILDING WENT ON A NEW THE NEXT YEAR BOND AND IT DID PASS.
AND SO THEN YOU CAN NOW GO BACK AND CARRY THROUGH WITH THAT.
BUT THERE'S NO GUARANTEE OF WHAT WOULD OR WOULDN'T PASS.
BUT I GUESS THEORETICALLY, AM I CORRECT THAT YOU DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE TO ISSUE THE BONDS, RIGHT? YEAH. WELL, I'D JUST LIKE TO KNOW KIND OF SOME OF THESE PROJECTS, MAX, THAT ARE TIED TOGETHER THAT ARE SO ANY ANY ADDITIONAL IMPERVIOUS COVER THAT WE LAY OUT THERE, WE'LL HAVE TO PUT SOME KIND OF STORM WATER IN THERE.
SO, YOU KNOW, SO THERE WILL NEED TO KEEP THE LINE IN THERE FOR STORMWATER, BUT IT COULD BE LESS.
AND JUST LIKE Y'ALL JUST DISCUSSED, IF IT'S NOT SPENT, IT WOULD GO BACK TO THE TAXPAYERS.
BUT YEAH, IF YOU PUT ANY IMPERVIOUS COVER DOWN, THAT'S THAT'S STEP ONE YOU HAVE TO BUILD.
IF WE'RE DOING THE MULTIPURPOSE PAVILION BEHIND THE BAND HALL, THEN WE'RE GOING TO NEED NEW ACCESS TO GET BACK THERE CORRECT ? LET ME GO GET MY SHEET.
THAT'S A LITTLE FURTHER BACK THERE, BYRON.
THAT PARKING LOT IS FURTHER BY THE..
AND YOU ALL JUST TELL ME IF THIS IS TOO MUCH IN THE WEEDS, LIKE FOR WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
SO I'M GLAD YOU ASKED A QUESTION.
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AND SO THAT WOULD HAVE ITS OWN DETENTION, WHEREAS THE STUDENT PARKING AND MULTIPURPOSE PAVILION WOULD HAVE DETENTION IN A DIFFERENT LOCATION.IS THAT YOUR QUESTION? I'M LOOKING AT THIS ONE HERE.
YOU WERE REFERENCING THE HAYS HIGH SCHOOL.
YEAH, FROM DECEMBER, SO THAT'S NOT THE DECEMBER ONE OK.
I COULD PROBABLY PLUG IN AND PUT IT UP THERE.
AND SO YOU DON'T YOU DON'T HAVE THE THE ONE THAT SHOWS THE NUMBERS DOWN THE LEFT SIDE BY NUMBER.
ALL RIGHT. SO IT'S GOING TO BE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT DETENTION PONDS, I BELIEVE IN THIS LOCATION, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WHERE THE WATER WILL FLOW, IT'S.. SO HAYS HIGH SCHOOL PARKING DRIVE FOR BASEBALL SOFTBALL FOR 1.836 MILLION, IS THAT A STANDALONE PROJECT OR IS THAT TIED TO IF WE DO THE MULTIPURPOSE THAN WE NEED THAT DRIVEWAY TO GET BACK TO THE BASEBALL SOFTBALL? SO NO, THAT ONE IS IT'S A EVENT PARKING SO IT HAS IT'S YOU DON'T NEED IT AT ALL AND THE WHAT THE DETENTION AT HAYS HIGH SCHOOL, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT JASON, PLEASE HELP ME IF YOU IF THIS IS YOUR MEMORY AS WELL.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN THE LEHMAN HIGH SCHOOL SERVICE DRIVE PROVIDE DRIVE AROUND THE BUILDING INCLUDE HC PARKING.
THAT'S LINE, WELL IT'S FOR 4.2 MILLION.
SO THAT'S THE OVERFLOW PARKING BEHIND THE STADIUM? YES, SIR. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AT HAYS HIGH SCHOOL STILL? AT LEHMAN NOW I'M AT LEHMAN HIGH SCHOOL.
OKAY. I'M SORRY. I WAS TALKING TO JESSICA.
LEHMAN HIGH SCHOOL PROVIDED ADDITIONAL PARKING ON SOUTH SIDE OF CAMPUS.
CONNECTION TO ST 180,000 SQUARE FEET OF PAVING AT LEHMAN.
THAT IS THE ONE THAT IS THE OVERFLOW.
LET'S SEE, WE COULD NUMBER THESE OR LETTER THEM IF THAT WOULD BE, IF THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED TO PULL THAT UP JUST YET.
OKAY. SO THE 4.2 MILLION AT LEHMAN.
EXCELLENT. I GUESS MY QUESTION THERE IS THIS OVERFLOW PARKING NECESSARY AND THE BAND PRACTICE FACILITY WITH IF WE DO THE THE NEW.
THAT'S CORRECT.. PERFORMING ARTS CENTER.
THAT'S CORRECT, IT WOULD BE TAKING THE PARKING SO THAT WOULD BE PUTTING PARKING BACK.
YES, SIR. SO THOSE ARE PROBABLY TIED TOGETHER? YEAH. LET ME GET MY GIANT POINTER.
I WOULD ASSUME THOSE ARE TIED TOGETHER, RIGHT? SAME WITH THE WATER STORMWATER WATER EXPANSION.
OK. WHERE DO YOU WANT TO START? JASON, COME ON UP. VERY GOOD.
RIGHT. I JUST WANT TO KNOW THE PROJECTS THAT ARE CONNECTED TO PROJECTS.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S IF THAT'S FOR THIS.
I MEAN, I GUESS THIS IS FROM THIS MEETING.
SO ANYTHING WE BUILD THAT PUTS IMPERVIOUS COVER WILL REQUIRE STORMWATER.
IN OTHER WORDS, IT'S A THEORETICAL NUMBER AND WE ASSIGNED A COST, A UNIT COST TO IT.
AND SO IF A PIECE ISN'T BUILT, WE WOULD JUST BUILD LESS STORMWATER STORAGE, IF YOU WILL.
RIGHT. AND SO THE BUILDING BLOCK TO ALL LEHMAN, JOHNSON AND HAYES, YOU HAVE TO START WITH SOME AMOUNT OF STORMWATER PERIOD.
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AND SO IT'LL DEPEND ON JUST HOW MUCH WE BUILD, WILL DEPEND ON HOW MUCH STORMWATER WE HAVE TO PROVIDE.SO THEN IF WE'RE STILL TALKING ABOUT PROP B AND RIGHT NOW THE LEHMAN HIGH SCHOOL AUDITORIUMS AND PROP B, WOULD YOU MOVE THE LEHMAN HIGH SCHOOL AND PARKING IMPROVEMENTS FOR 4 TO 4.2 MILLION IF WE HAD TO TIE THOSE TOGETHER? WOULD YOU TIE THAT TOGETHER INTO PROP B? WOULD YOU PUT THOSE TWO TOGETHER? YOU CERTAINLY COULD.
SAME WITH THE LEHMAN HIGH SCHOOL, THE SERVICE DRIVE.
THE SERVICE. WELL, I REALLY I MIGHT KEEP THAT ONE SEPARATE BECAUSE THAT'S KIND OF AN AREA IN THE CAMPUS THAT THERE'S BEEN A CONCERN JUST BASICALLY ABOUT BEING ABLE TO GET AROUND THE WHOLE SCHOOL.
WHERE IS THAT ONE? THE SERVICE DRIVE RIGHT HERE.
AND SO THAT BASICALLY COMPLETES THE LOOP, RIGHT? OH, I SEE. OKAY. THAT'S THE PIECE THAT COMPLETES THE LOOP AROUND THE SCHOOL.
OKAY, SO THE NORTH CONNECTING DRIVE THAT WOULD BE TIED TO THAT WOULD BE TIED TO.
OK. AND THE RETAINING WALL IN THE TRACK, THAT'S JUST A THAT'S JUST A PROJECT THAT NEEDS TO THAT IS A IS AN ITEM THAT'S BIGGER THAN I BELIEVE WE CAN FUND WITH, YOU KNOW, GENERAL FUND AND THAT'S WHERE THE TRACK, I BELIEVE, WAS BUILT AS A SIX LANE TRACK ORIGINALLY, AND A COUPLE OF LANES WERE THEN ADDED ON.
AND SO IT'S HAVING SOME ISSUES STAYING TOGETHER AT THE JOINT.
THEN THE LAST PART I KNOW WE JUST TALKED ABOUT.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE I CLEAR IT UP.
THE HAYES HIGH SCHOOL PARKING FOR DRIVER BASEBALL SOFTBALL. THAT IS A THAT IS GOING TO BE NECESSARY REGARDLESS OF WE DO ANYTHING ELSE.
WE JUST. THERE'S NOT THAT SITUATION NOW, RIGHT? I MEAN, WE HAVE THE BRAND NEW COMPLEX BACK THERE, BUT NO REAL PARKING OR WAYS TO GET TO IT.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR RIGHT NOW.
MR. VELA, AND THEN I'LL GO BACK TO YOU.
IF WE GO BACK TO THE LEHMAN MAP.
MR. CLEAVER MY CONCERN WITH THAT NORTH CONNECTING DRIVE.
YEAH, I HAVE SEEN THE LEHMAN PARKING LOT TURNED INTO A CUT THROUGH FOR TRAFFIC.
AND, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE NOT ONLY DRIVING THROUGH THERE, THEY'RE ZOOMING THROUGH THERE.
OF COURSE, THAT WAS BEFORE WE PUT THE THE BARRICADE UP ON THE EXISTING LITTLE BITTY DRIVE RIGHT NOW.
SO, I MEAN, WHAT HOW WOULD WE ADDRESS THAT ONE? I MEAN, WOULD THERE BE A GATE THERE THAT'S WE'RE GOING TO LIMIT WHEN IT'S OPEN ONLY DURING SCHOOL HOURS.
FOOTBALLS EARLY IN THE MORNING.
YES, SIR. I THINK, YOU KNOW, THERE'S BASICALLY A GATE RIGHT HERE NOW.
IT'S BASICALLY TO IMPROVE THIS CURRENT LITTLE DRIVE.
AND SO THERE WOULD STILL BE A GATE THERE.
RIGHT. OKAY. AND THEN ON OUR LIST, GOING BACK TO THE HAYS HIGH SCHOOL PARKING LOT.
THERE'S NOT A COMMITTEE SUPPORT PERCENTAGE ON OUR GRAPH.
I DON'T KNOW IF SOMEBODY MISSED THAT.
I APOLOGIZE. I WAS CUTTING AND PASTING IN THERE.
IT WAS THAT WE HAVE A DIFFERENT VERSION.
THE COMMITTEE SUPPORT RIGHT HERE AT THE CUT AND PASTE ERROR.
THERE'S NO COMMUNITY SUPPORT ON THAT PARTICULAR LINE ITEM.
BECAUSE I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT FOR US TO LOOK AT I KNOW WE'RE LOOKING AT HOW PROJECTS RELATE TO ONE ANOTHER, BUT I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT FOR US TO LOOK AT JUST THE COMMITTEE'S INPUT.
THANK YOU. AND SO WE MAY NEED TO LOOK AT IT FROM THAT FROM THAT LENS AS WELL OF, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? WHAT'S WHAT OUR COMMITTEE SAID WAS WAS MOST IMPORTANT ON THIS ENTIRE LIST.
THANK YOU, MR. VELA. MR. MCMANUS.
JUST STAYING ON BYRON'S TRAIN OF THOUGHT JUST FOR A SECOND.
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IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE NORTH CONNECTING DRIVE AND THE SERVICE DRIVE PROBABLY BELONG ON PROP A, BUT IF THE LHS PARKING IMPROVEMENTS FOR 4.2 MILLION ARE REALLY ONLY NECESSARY IF THE AUDITORIUM AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE BUILT, THEN I THINK THEY OUGHT TO STAY WITH WHATEVER PROP THAT PARTICULAR THING.IF YOU SEPARATE THEM, THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME.
SO I THINK WHICHEVER COLUMN THEY END UP IN IS WHERE THEY NEED TO STAY.
AND MS. PETREA, JUST JUST FOR SAYING ONE THING WE'VE DONE BEFORE WITH PROPOSITIONS JUST TO THROW OUT THERE AS WE'VE HAD, WE'VE CLEARLY DELINEATED BETWEEN SCHOOLS. KIDS IN SEATS VERSUS MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION THINGS.
I REALIZE YOU DON'T HAVE TO, BUT THAT COULD BRING SOME SOME EASE TO THINKING ABOUT WHERE SOME OF THESE THINGS GO, WHERE WE PUT ELEMENTARY 17 DESIGN FEES AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS AS ITS OWN PROPOSITION, ALL OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS RELATED THAT ARE NEEDED, BUT LIKE THE MECHANICAL, ELECTRICAL, ALL THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.
WE AS BEST AS I RECALL, WE'VE A LOT WE'VE SEPARATED THOSE OUT.
AND, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE THINGS WE WE DESPERATELY NEED AND I DON'T WANT TO HAVE.
I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE INTIMIDATED BY HAVING FOUR PROPOSITIONS.
I THINK PEOPLE CAN SORT THAT OUT THEMSELVES.
THE BOARD AS A WHOLE WILL MAKE THAT DECISION.
BUT THAT'S THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M AT WITH IT.
THAT'S RESERVED FOR THE STATE.
AND DIANNE'S TECHNOLOGY PROPOSITION WAS PROPOSITION F LAST TIME, AND SHE DIDN'T LIKE THAT.
I BELIEVE THAT PROPOSITION PASSED.
SO I'M NOT INTIMIDATED BY LETTERS.
DIANE JUST GOT A THANK YOU, BABY JESUS.
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? YEAH, YEAH, IT PASSED.
WELL, MR. MCMANUS, I WAS KIND OF THINKING ALONG THE SAME LINES AS YOU UNTIL MR. SEVERANCE STARTED TALKING, SO I WAS KIND OF THINKING IN MY HEAD.
GENERAL PURPOSE, MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS, CO-CURRICULAR AND TECHNOLOGY.
BUT YOU BRING UP THE GOOD POINT OF THE SORT OF CONNECTED PROJECTS.
AND SO I FEEL LIKE THAT COULD BE CONFUSING TO VOTERS AS WELL IF WE, WE KEEP SOME OF THESE SERVICE DRIVES AND RETAINING WALLS AND WHATNOT, BUT WE MOVE THE OTHER ONES THAT ARE, LET'S SAY, LESS ESSENTIAL OR LESS DEPENDENT ON THESE OTHER PROJECTS.
DOES THAT CONFUSE VOTERS? RIGHT. SO BUT I WAS KIND OF TRACKING ALONG THE SAME LINES.
OKAY. SO I'M HEARING A LOT OF, SIMILAR TO ME, THIS IS MURKY AND CONFUSING TO VOTERS, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU ARE PASSIONATELY, YOU KNOW, LIVING IN ONE FEEDER PATTERN VERSUS ANOTHER.
AND WE'VE HEARD QUITE A BIT OF THAT, EVEN THOUGH, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW HAYS HIGH SCHOOL HAS HAS HAD THEIR HAVE BEEN UNDER CONSTRUCTION SINCE MY SON WAS, YOU KNOW, THERE WHEN HE GRADUATED IN 2020 SOME TIME AGO.
AND THEY'VE SEEN A LOT OF IMPROVEMENTS.
MR. GOMES IS HERE TONIGHT AND I WOULD LIKE FOR HIM TO COME TO THE MICROPHONE AND LET US KNOW IS HAYS HIGH SCHOOL SCREAMING FOR ADDITIONAL THINGS? ARE THERE THINGS THAT THEY ARE UPSET THAT THEY ARE NOT GETTING IN THIS BOND? IF SO, I WANT TO KNOW.
WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF THINGS AT HAYS HIGH SCHOOL BE BUILT, INCLUDING THE $20 MILLION SCIENCE LABS THAT $23 MILLION SORRY, SCIENCE LABS THAT ARE GOING ON THERE RIGHT NOW.
WE KNOW THAT JOHNSON WAS BUILT TOO SMALL.
WE DO NOT WORK WITH THAT ARCHITECT ANYMORE.
IT'S THE SMALLEST BAND HALL WE'VE SEEN.
IT'S THE LEAST AMOUNT OF GYMS WE'VE EVER SEEN.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHO'S GOING TO BE ON THIS BOARD WHEN WE BUILD A HIGH SCHOOL FOUR.
AND WE'LL HAVE TO SPEND $80 MILLION FOUR YEARS LATER IF WE'RE NOT CAREFUL.
ELEMENTARY SCHOOL CLASSROOMS ARE BIGGER THAN THE CLASSROOMS AT JOHNSON HIGH SCHOOL.
IF YOU HAVEN'T WALKED IT, I IMPLORE YOU TO DO SO.
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MY KID IS IN BAND AND THERE'S 250 KIDS IN THE BAND AND THEY DO NOT FIT.THERE'S NO ROOM FOR COLOR GUARD.
THEY DON'T HAVE ANY PLACE TO GO.
THEY DON'T HAVE A THREE GYMS. AND YEAH, DO THEY HAVE NICE WINDOWS AND NEWER BATHROOMS? ABSOLUTELY THEY DO.
AND THOSE ARE THINGS I WANT TO KNOW IF WE NEED TO WORK ON AT OTHER SCHOOLS.
SO IN YOUR COMMUNICATIONS WITH THE PRINCIPAL, WITH THE ADMINISTRATION, THE LEADERSHIP AT HAYES HIGH SCHOOL, ARE THERE THINGS THAT THEY'RE TELLING YOU THAT, BY GOD, WE SHOULD HAVE GOT X, Y, Z ON THIS BOND? NO, MA'AM. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE DISTRICT FOR FIVE YEARS NOW.
I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH HAYS PAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
AND, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE EXTREMELY FORTUNATE TO BE ABLE TO GET INTO PLACE WHERE THEY'RE IN RIGHT NOW.
THEY HAVE PLENTY OF ROOM AND WE'RE DOUBLING THE SCIENCE CAPACITY FROM 8 TO 16.
WE'RE DOUBLING THE RESOURCES FOR THE SCIENCE CAPACITY FOR THE SCIENCE ROOM OUT OF THE BAND HALL.
I MEAN, THERE'S YOU WALK TO CAMPUS AND YOU WALK TO CAMPUS WITH ME.
THERE'S NOT A FEEL THAT THEY NEED ANYTHING AT THIS POINT.
THE ONLY THING THAT'S BEEN SAID IS THE WEIGHT ROOM.
AND, YOU KNOW, JUST BECAUSE OF THE FACILITIES AND HOW OLD IT IS, THE WEIGHT ROOM.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE IN GOOD SHAPE.
MS.. OROSCO, DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? NOT A QUESTION. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. GOMEZ, FOR SHARING THAT.
I KNOW WE HAVE IMPROVED OUR PROCESS ON HOW WE COMMUNICATE WITH THE DIFFERENT CAMPUSES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THEIR INPUT AND FEEDBACK ON WHAT IS ACTUALLY NEEDED.
NO ONE KNOWS BETTER THAN THE PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY WORK ON THAT CAMPUS.
AND SO ALL THE TIME IN THE PAST WHEN THEY WEREN'T LISTENED TO, THEY DIDN'T HAVE A VOICE.
WE WOULD HAVE GAPS, RIGHT? BUT THAT DID CHANGE.
WRIGHT AND MAX CLEAVER, FOR PUTTING THAT LIST TOGETHER OF SHOWING THAT DIFFERENCE RIGHT.
THAT 98,000,128 MILLION AND JOHNSON, 88 MILLION.
AND OF COURSE, JOHNSON IS GROWING AT A FASTER PACE THAN OUR OTHER SCHOOLS.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND BECAUSE AGAIN, FAIR DOESN'T MEAN EQUAL.
BUT WE HAVE A TEN YEAR PLAN AND WE NEED TO BE STRATEGIC ABOUT HOW WE USE OUR MONEY AND NOT JUST WANT TO SAY, WELL, WE SHOULD ALL GET THE SAME PORTION. WE HAVE A PLAN, WE HAVE TO PRIORITIZE.
SO IT IS IMPORTANT TO KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WELL AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THESE.
THAT IS A GOOD IDEA, MR. THANK YOU, MR. GOMES. IT IS A GOOD IDEA.
I THINK THAT'S ANOTHER OPTION FOR US TO DO IS TO HAVE ANOTHER PROP THAT HAS THAT MAINTENANCE, ALL THAT ROOFING CYCLE AND CONCRETE AND ALL OF THAT.
YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE CAN GROUP THAT TOGETHER OR MAYBE WE CAN GROUP B, WE CAN CHANGE THE NAME.
WE CAN ALSO CHANGE THE NAMES OF THESE PROPS, RIGHT.
IF WE WANT TO DO THREE OR IT'S ALWAYS IT SEEMS BETTER TO DO NOT SO MANY, NOT SIX, NOT FIVE, BUT FOUR UNDER AND RENAME THOSE PROPS.
AND SOMETIMES IT'S A LITTLE MISLEADING WHEN YOU DO GROUP THEM LIKE PROJECTS LIKE THIS PROJECT NEEDS THIS PROJECT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE LIKE MR. SAVOY TALKED ABOUT THE LIVE OAK BOND ITEM THAT WE HAD THAT WAS APPROVED, BUT THE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING WASN'T.
SO IT MIGHT HAVE HAD TWO WAY TO BOND, BUT NOW IT IS GETTING DONE.
SO WE JUST KIND OF HAVE TO KEEP THAT IN MIND.
RYE, FOR TALKING ABOUT THE BOND TALK.
WE ALL READ THE BOND TALKS AND THE COMMENT CARDS THAT WE RECEIVED.
AND JUST REITERATING, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, ABOUT OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND ADDRESSING ALL THOSE ISSUES THAT ARE COMING UP AND MAKING THE DISTINCTION WITH SALARIES NOT FALLING UNDER THE BOND, YOU NEED A TAX RATIFICATION ELECTION TO TOUCH MONEY FOR PERSONNEL.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
SO, YES, WE DID A 7% INCREASE AND IT WAS SOMETHING.
AND DR. WRIGHT, CAN YOU REFRESH MY MEMORY?
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YOU SHOWED US ABOUT TWO MEETINGS AGO HOW WE RANKED IN THE REGION AND HOW AUSTIN ISD HAD TO SAY, HEY, LOOK AT HAYS CISD WHEN IT COMES TO SALARY AND COMPENSATION.CAN YOU REFRESH MY MEMORY ON THAT? YES. AS YOU REMEMBER, WE DIFFERENTIATED OUR SALARY AND WE DIDN'T TARGET ZERO YEAR OR OUR TEACHERS WITHOUT EXPERIENCE COMING STRAIGHT OUT.
BUT SO WE WERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PACK FOR ZERO YEAR, OUR NEW HIRES.
BUT AT THE MARKS OF FIVE, TEN, 15, 20 AND 25, WE WERE WELL AHEAD OF THE PACK FOR CENTRAL TEXAS.
AND I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS A TEACHER IN THE DISTRICT MANY YEARS AGO AND WE WERE 15 OUT OF 15.
SO WE HAVE DEFINITELY COMMITTED OURSELVES.
OUR BOARD IS COMMITTED TO MAKING SURE THAT OUR EMPLOYEE COMPENSATION IS TOP LINE.
AND WHEN WE DON'T HAVE THE BUDGET TO MAKE THAT SO, GIVE THAT 7% INCREASE.
SO I JUST KIND OF WANT TO TALK ABOUT TOUCH BASES ON THAT BECAUSE IT WAS ON OUR BOND TALK.
SO I JUST WANT TO TOUCH BASES ON THAT.
BUT YES, I WOULD SAY FOUR OR LESS PROPS.
ALL RIGHT. I SAW MR. MCMANUS NEXT, NO.
MS. BEDWELL IS HERE TONIGHT, THE CHAIR OF THE FBOC.
I KNOW THEY'VE DONE A TREMENDOUS JOB GETTING THIS LIST TO A POINT WHERE WE CAN ALL CONSUME IT.
LIKE I, I AGREE, MULTIPLE PROPS MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.
AND SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS COMMITTEE IS MADE UP OF, YOU KNOW, 28 PEOPLE THAT ARE MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY THAT HAVE ALREADY THAT HAVE GOTTEN THIS LIST BACK JUNE, JULY, AUGUST OF THIS PAST YEAR AND HAVE BEEN WORKING FOR ALMOST SIX MONTHS TO GET THIS LIST TO WHERE WE'RE AT.
SO I ALSO RESPECT THE WILL OF THE COMMITTEE ON SOME OF THESE ITEMS. SO I FEEL LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING AROUND WE CAN DEFINITELY DO.
AND AT THIS POINT WITH THIS PROCESS, BECAUSE THIS IS MY FIRST TIME GOING THROUGH THIS, ON THIS AT THIS LEVEL, HOW DO WE GET A SET? THE WHAT'S THE PROCEDURE FOR SETTING THE PROPS? WILL THAT BE AT THE END OF THIS MEETING OR ARE WE KIND OF WORKING THROUGH IT AS AS WE GET AS WE GO MOVING STUFF AROUND TO TAKE NOTES? OKAY. BUT WE'RE SORT OF GETTING TO A DIFFERENT PLACE AND WELL, THAT'S WHY I KNEW PROP A AND PROP B ARE OBVIOUSLY THE MOST COMPLICATED ONES.
AND I THINK WE NEED TO COME TO CONSENSUS ON WHAT WE THINK SHOULD BE IN, LET'S CALL A GENERAL PURPOSE PROPOSITION IF WE'RE GOING TO CALL IT THAT, IS THAT GOING TO BE CTE OR NOT? MR. SAVOY MIGHT HAVE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS.
HE DOESN'T WANT TO BE HERE ALL NIGHT.
SO MY GUESS IS HE'S I'M HERE ALL NIGHT, ALL WEEK.
BUT IN THIS CASE, WE ARE COMMITTING THAT IT'S GOING TO BE USED 70% INSTRUCTIONAL, 20% PERFORMANCE AND 10% FOR OTHER USES.
SO AND LET ME GET GERRI KYLE WANTS TO MAYBE ADD ON TO THAT, JUST SO YOU KNOW, THAT IF WE WERE NOT GOING TO BE USING IT FOR THE INSTRUCTIONAL USE PREDOMINANTLY, THEN YOU WOULD HAVE TO CONSIDER PUTTING THAT IN ITS OWN PROPOSITION, BECAUSE AT THAT POINT, AN AUDITORIUM THEN WOULD BECOME A PERFORMING ARTS CENTER AS OPPOSED TO NOT BEING A PERFORMING ARTS CENTER UNDER THE LAW.
AND I THINK THAT COMES FROM LEGAL GUIDANCE TO BOND COUNSELS FROM THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE.
SO WHAT WE HAVE ESTIMATED IT WOULD BE 70% INSTRUCTIONAL USE, AND THAT WOULD BE SPACES DURING THE FULL SCHOOL DAY FOR DAILY INSTRUCTION OF THEATER, ARTS, TECHNICAL THEATER CLASSES, AS WELL AS INSTRUCTION FOR BAND, CHOIR, ORCHESTRA, MARIACHI AND DANCE.
IT WOULD NOT BE THE SAME AS OUR STANDALONE ACTUAL PERFORMING ARTS CENTER THAT'S ALREADY IN EXISTENCE, WHERE IT'S SEPARATE AND WOULDN'T BE USED ON THE DAILY FOR THAT WE ARE ESTIMATING THAT IT WOULD BE USED 20% OF THE TIME FOR PERFORMANCE VENUE, BUT THAT WOULDN'T BE THE PREDOMINANT USE OF IT.
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SO AT THIS POINT IN TIME WE HAVE AN 80%, 70% INSTRUCTIONAL, 10% OTHER THAT WOULD BE NOT PERFORMING ARTS USE.AND THEREFORE THAT IS WHY WE HAVE IN CONSULT WITH COUNCIL DETERMINED THAT IT WOULDN'T MEET THE QUALIFICATIONS TO BE A PERFORMING ARTS CENTER, BUT RATHER AN AUDITORIUM.
AND THAT'S WHY IT IS RECOMMENDED TO BE INCLUDED WITHIN PROPOSITION A OR B OR NOT IN A PROPOSITION NECESSARILY STANDING ALONE. OKAY.
SO IT'S NOT JUST THE SEATING CAPACITY THAT TRIGGERS THAT SEPARATE PROPOSITION.
I BELIEVE THE SEATING CAPACITY IS BASED ON WHAT CONSTITUTES A STADIUM, WHICH WOULD ALSO BE ITS OWN PROPOSITION ON THE ATHLETIC SIDE, IT WOULD BE THE PREDOMINANT USE OF THE FACILITY AS TO WHETHER OR NOT IT'S LEGALLY CONSTITUTED AS A PERFORMING ARTS CENTER.
SO WE NEED TO GET TO CONSENSUS ON WHAT WE THINK SHOULD BE IN GENERAL PURPOSE.
THIS IS HARD. THIS IS THIS IS HARD BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS ON HERE, LIKE THE LEHMAN THEATER THAT THEY'VE BEEN WAITING ON A REALLY LONG TIME. AND TO ME IT'S AN ESSENTIAL PART OF CLASS.
IT IS AN ACCREDITED CLASS THEY'RE GETTING.
IT'S NOT JUST FINE ARTS, IT'S A CLASS THAT THEY GO TO.
THE SAME CAN BE SAID ABOUT BASEBALL, SOFTBALL.
THERE'S AN ATHLETIC PERIOD THAT THEY GO TO AND GET A CREDIT FOR.
SO WHEN YOU SAY CO-CURRICULAR, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
YOU KNOW, I KEEP GOING BACK AND FORTH.
WE GIVE YOU PROPS ALL THE TIME, UNLIMITED.
SO I WANT TO HEAR FROM MORE PEOPLE ON ON HOW WE THINK WE'RE WE WANT TO OBVIOUSLY PROP A AND PROP B ARE THE THE MORE COMPLICATED ONES. DO WE WANT JUST CORE ACADEMICS IN ONE AND THEN ANOTHER ONE WITH CTE, FINE ARTS, ATHLETICS, CO-CURRICULARS AS WE MIGHT WANT TO CALL THEM, THEN ONE FOR MAINTENANCE AND THEN ONE FOR TECHNOLOGY. THAT'S AN IDEA.
I AGREE, BUT WE KNOW AS A BOARD WHY THEY WOULD NEED TO BE IN PROP A.
MS. OROSCO, YOU HAVE A THOUGHT.
WELL, NOT ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
SO IF YOU WANT TO GET FEEDBACK ON THAT, THAT'S FINE.
I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, THERE'S THINGS THAT SHOULD BE THAT I WOULD CONSIDER IF WE'RE GOING TO GO WITH PROP A, B AND C, THEN THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT I WOULD MOVE TO PROP B, LIKE THE HAYS HIGH SCHOOL PARKING AND DRIVE FOR BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL.
THAT WOULD DEFINITELY BE A PROP B KIND OF THING FOR ME.
THE JOHNSON HIGH SCHOOL REHEARSAL BAND HALL WOULD ALSO BE A PROP B FOR ME AND LEHMAN HIGH SCHOOL PARKING IMPROVEMENTS WOULD ALSO BE A PROP B FOR ME.
I CAN SEE THOSE BEING MOVED TO PROP B.
I STILL HAVEN'T HEARD MUCH ABOUT THE PAVILIONS FROM OTHERS.
SO WE'D LIKE TO HEAR A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT.
I CAN SEE THE LEHMAN HIGH SCHOOL AUDITORIUM, THEATER, CLASSROOM, CTE CLASSROOMS GOING IN EITHER PROP A OR PROP B, PULLING CTE CLASSROOMS OUT OF THEATER CLASSROOMS, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO NEED THAT AUDITORIUM.
SO I WOULD SUGGEST WE PUT THAT IN PROP EIGHT.
SO THOSE ARE MY SUGGESTIONS ON PROP A AND B, OKAY.
SO I HEARD, MOVE THE JOHNSON BAND HALL TO B, THE LEHMAN BASEBALL SOFTBALL TO B, THE LEHMAN PARKING IMPROVEMENTS, TO BE THE HAYS HIGH SCHOOL PARKING AND DRIVE TO B.
AND THEN YOU'D MOVE THE LEHMAN AUDITORIUM THEATER AND CTE TO PROP A.
WHAT WOULD YOU DO WITH THAT? I WOULD LEAVE IT IN B.
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IT DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT CLASSROOMS, PER SE.SO WE COULD ARGUE THAT ONE WITH THE JOHNSON ONE.
SO WE'RE GOING TO PUT THE WE KNOW THEY HAVE CLASSES IN THERE.
I MEAN, THAT'S WHERE THEY THAT'S WHERE THEY MEET FOR CLASS.
YES. SO BUT THAT'S MORE I'M LOOKING AT CLASS ROOMS. THAT'S WHERE THEY MEET FOR CLASS, FOR BAND.
YES. AND MONEY, THAT'S WHERE THEY PLAY THEIR INSTRUMENTS FOR AN HOUR AND A HALF.
90 MINUTES. THAT'S A DISTINCTION.
BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT, THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO MOVE THAT.
JOHNSON ONE. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
THAT'S WHY I'M LIKE, THAT'S THE DISTINCTION WE NEED TO TO DO.
WE CONSIDER THAT PROP EIGHT OR PROP B, WE JUST GOT TO DECIDE.
BUT THEY NEED TO GO TOGETHER, IS WHAT I'M SAYING.
THAT'S BANANAS. WHATEVER THE WILL OF THE BOARD IS ON THAT.
THIS GETS TRICKY, MR. MCMANUS. THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY ABOUT THE PARKING IMPROVEMENTS, IF I HEARD MAX CORRECTLY, THAT 4.2 MILLION PROJECT IS TIED DIRECTLY TO THE LOSS OF PARKING BECAUSE OF THE AUDITORIUM, THEATER, CLASSROOMS, AND CTE CLASSROOMS. SO WHERE AGAIN, I THINK WHEREVER THAT ONE GOES THAT THE PARKING IMPROVEMENT OUGHT TO FOLLOW BECAUSE THERE WHAT'S IT TIED TO WHICH ONE THE PARKING IMPROVEMENTS FOR RIGHT NOW 4.2.
WHAT IS IT TIED TO? WHICH PROJECT IS IT TO THE THEATER? CAN YOU ALL PULL UP LEHMAN IF YOU GOT IT.
WHAT? YOU NEED YOUR POINTER AGAIN.
I HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION BEFORE YOU BEFORE I GO TO YOU.
OKAY, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE THE TEN YEAR PLAN.
MR. CLEAVER, I WANT YOU TO REMIND ME WHAT'S GOING ON.
SO WE'RE WE'RE IF THIS BOND PASSES, JOHNSON WOULD BE MOVED UP TO 2800 CAPACITY.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S RIGHT.
YES, MA'AM. SO THEY'RE GOING TO BE AT 2848 IN 2023, RIGHT.
AND SO THEN YOU'VE GOT HAYES AND LEHMAN BOTH GETTING OVER 2800 IN 2027.
SO WHAT ARE WE GOING TO READ IF WE PUT EVERYBODY TO 2800? BASED ON MY RUDIMENTARY GLIMPSE OF THIS, WE'RE AT A CAPACITY ACROSS THE BOARD IN 2027.
RIGHT. BUT THEY'RE ALREADY OVERCAPACITY AT 2027.
CORRECT. SO THAT'S YEAH, WE'RE PLAYING CATCH UP AS ALWAYS, BUT WE'RE DOING THE BEST.
SO WHEN WILL THE FOURTH HIGH SCHOOL BE ONLINE? FOURTH HIGH SCHOOL COULD BE ONLINE AS EARLY AS LIKE 2032.
DID YOU SAY AS EARLY AS 2032? I DID MAKE SURE I HEARD THAT RIGHT.
SO AT THAT POINT WE'LL BE AT 3800 KIDS AT HAYS, 4500 AT JOHNSON AND 4100 AT LEHMAN.
I'M JUST MAKING EYES AT JESSICA BEDWELL RIGHT NOW.
AND I KNOW THAT BECAUSE MY SON WAS AT HAYS HIGH SCHOOL WHEN IT WAS BUILT FOR 2250 AND THERE WERE 3000 KIDS THERE AND THEY WORKED IT OUT, FIGURED IT OUT, IT'S I THINK IT'S 80% OF MAXIMUM CAPACITY.
SO I THINK IT'S 80% OF 3500 MATH WORK, 3500 MAXIMUM TIMES 80% BECAUSE OF SCHEDULING.
AND SIX OR SEVEN PERIODS IS ROUGHLY 78 OR 80% EFFICIENCY.
WE'RE GROWING. THANK YOU FOR THAT REMINDER.
ALL RIGHT. SORRY, MR. SEVERANCE. WELL, SINCE YOU BROUGHT UP THAT CAPACITY, IT'S A GOOD TIME FOR ME TO THROW MY $0.02 ON THAT.
I MEAN, SO LET'S SAY WE GET THE CAPACITY OF JOHNSON TO 2800.
IT'S NOT GOING TO BE SHOVEL READY IN MAY.
SO WE HAVE A LITTLE WORK TO DO RIGHT.
SO YOU PROBABLY THAT'S GOING TO OPEN FOR 25.
THE JOHNSON? YEAH WE TO WORK AND THEN 25, YES SIR.
SO 25 SO IF LET'S SAY IT'S OPEN AT 25 IT'S WE'RE AT 3000 KIDS ALREADY SO WE'RE ALREADY 200 KIDS SHORT AT 120% UTILIZATION.
SO THEN YOU'RE TALKING THE HIGH SCHOOL NUMBER FOR BONDING AND EITHER 25
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OR 26 FOR OPENING 2829.SO WE'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE CAPACITY ISSUES AT ALL THREE HIGH SCHOOLS BY THAT TIME.
I MEAN, YEAH, I THINK OUR POINT OF PUTTING ON HIGH SCHOOL DESIGN STUDY IS TO GIVE US AGAIN, THE OPTION, YOU KNOW, IF WE GET OUT AHEAD OF IT, GET THE DESIGN DONE, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE ABLE TO GET IT, GET IT QUICKER, IF WE HAVE TO DELIVER IT OR WE COULD IF WE HAVE THE PLANS AND THINGS AND WE'RE SHOVEL READY. I COMPLETELY AGREE.
I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING WITH THE JOHNSON EXPANSION, LIKE DOES IT NEED TO BE MORE THAN 2800 NOW? AND I KNOW THAT I HEAR I'LL HEAR ARGUMENTS OF, WELL, THEN ONCE THE FOURTH HIGH SCHOOL OPENS, THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE EMPTY CLASSROOMS. BUT WHAT I THINK THAT SOMETIMES PEOPLE DON'T FORGET IS ENROLLMENT VERSUS LET'S TALK ABOUT CTE IN THAT IN THAT EQUATION.
LIKE IT'S ALWAYS WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR CTE, INSTRUCTIONAL CLASSROOM SPACE, LIKE WE BUILD A CULINARY ROOM, BUT WE DON'T BUILD, I'M NOT SAYING WE DON'T, BUT I'M SAYING WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH SPACE FOR THE CLASSROOM.
SO YOU CAN HAVE ONE IN ONE LAB AND ONE IN CLASSROOMS. SO I MEAN, IF WE TOOK THE FUNCTIONAL CAPACITY AT JOHNSON FROM 2800 TO 3000.
AT LEAST TO GET US TO, YOU KNOW, 2026.
THEN ONCE THE SCHOOL OPENS AND YOU CAN HAVE SOME EXTRA, WE COULD ACTUALLY ACTUALLY HAVE SOME EXTRA SPACE, SOME FUNCTIONAL CAPACITY WITHOUT FEELING PUSHED BEHIND IT.
AND THAT'S MORE OF A PHILOSOPHICAL LIKE 2800 IS WHAT YOUR NUMBER IS, BUT I DON'T THINK WE THINK ABOUT ENROLLMENT NUMBERS VERSUS CLASSROOMS AND LABS WITHIN CTE. AUTO TECH, VET TECH, CULINARY, YOU KNOW, COSMETOLOGY NOW BARBERING.
I MEAN, ALL THAT STUFF IS LAB AND CLASSROOM.
BUT I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ENOUGH CLASSROOM TO SUPPORT.
SO. SINCE YOU BROUGHT UP THE EXPANSION AT JOHNSON? I MEAN, I WOULDN'T BE OPPOSED TO POSSIBLY MAKING THAT NUMBER A LITTLE BIT LARGER BECAUSE WE KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE WE'RE GOING TO BE OVER BY THE TIME IT'S WHEN WE OPEN THE WHEN WE OPEN THE EXPANSION, IT'S GOING TO ALREADY BE OVER.
SO WE'RE ALREADY BEHIND AGAIN.
SO I'M JUST I'M JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE TO TO FOR US TO TALK ABOUT, IF THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE, IF WE ACTUALLY HAD BUILT IN SOME FUNCTIONAL CAPACITY THAT WHEN HIGH SCHOOL NUMBER FOUR OPENS AND THEN WE COULD ACTUALLY HAVE MORE CLASSROOM SPACE TO FOR ANYTHING ELSE THAT POP MAGNET PROGRAMS, I DON'T KNOW.
I MEAN I'M SURE WE COULD THE 3500 SEEMED TO KIND OF WORK FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE FOR AS SCHOOLS DO SWELL UP THE 3500 MAXIMUM CAPACITY KIND OF WORKS WITH OUR NUMBERS HERE WITH 2800 FOOT EXPANSIONS ASSUMING YOU DO THE 2020 800.
OKAY. SO WE'RE TRYING TO TRYING TO BUILD IN THAT THAT MAXIMUM CAPACITY FOR THE FOR THE SWALE AS WE GROW BEFORE THE OUTLET VALVE IS RELEASED, IF YOU WILL, WHICH WOULD BE HIGH SCHOOL FOR.
RIGHT. BECAUSE OVERBUILDING IS A IS IS PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, AS BAD OF A THING AS OVERBUILDING.
RIGHT. OR UNDER BUILDING, YOU KNOW.
BUT IT'D BE NICE TO BE JUST AHEAD OF IT.
YEAH. A LITTLE BIT AHEAD OF IT.
THANKS, MR. MCMANUS. JUST STAYING ON HIGH SCHOOL CAPACITY FOR A MOMENT.
I MEAN, IT'S HARD TO WRAP YOUR HEAD AROUND THESE NUMBERS.
AND I THINK THAT THE REALITY IS, REGARDLESS OF WHAT WE DO IN A FEW SHORT YEARS, WE'RE GOING TO BE CROWDED AT ALL FOR HIGH SCHOOLS.
BECAUSE IF YOU BUILD FOURTH HIGH SCHOOL AT 2800, I DON'T KNOW IF WE WILL OR NOT, WHATEVER THAT NUMBER IS, EVEN IF YOU GET OUT TO THE NOT TOO DISTANT FUTURE OF, SAY, 2028, 2029, AND YOU TOOK A THOUSAND KIDS OFF OF EACH HIGH SCHOOL, YOU'RE IMMEDIATELY AT 3000 STUDENTS AT A BRAND NEW SCHOOL THAT WAS BUILT FOR 2800.
WE JUST GOT A BIG ISSUE THAT WE'VE GOT TO DEAL WITH AS A DISTRICT.
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ON CAMPUS CAPACITY EXPANSIONS, THOSE ARE FINE.
BUT I WILL SAY THIS AND MR. PIERCE IS HERE AND HE CAN HEAR THIS, BUT WHEN AT HAYS HIGH SCHOOL, I HAD KIDS THERE WHEN WE WERE 3200, THAT WAS HARD.
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AND IT TOOK AN EXTRAORDINARY EFFORT FROM CAMPUS ADMINISTRATION, TEACHERS AND STUDENTS TO NOT FEEL LIKE YOU WERE JUST ON TOP OF EACH OTHER THE WHOLE TIME. I DON'T RECOMMEND THAT FOR ANYBODY.TO TO DO THAT IS FOR OUR WE WANT TO WE WANT THE THE BEST KIDS COMING OUT OF OUR SCHOOLS.
AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BUILD THINGS FOR THAT TO HAPPEN.
I CAN'T LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS FOR THE HIGH SCHOOL AND WRAP MY HEAD AROUND WAITING TO DO ANYTHING.
YES, I JUST CAN'T IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME.
SO THAT WILL APPEAL TO FEW OFF.
BUT IT'S YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT 14,000.
I MEAN, YEAH, THERE'S 13,000 PLUS KIDS SO YEAH.
YEAH THAT'S EXACTLY THAT'S, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE YEAR.
YEAH. I MEAN TRUST ME, I UNDERSTAND.
THE HEARTBURN PEOPLE HAVE OVER JOHNSON.
AND BUT IF WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET IT TO THE CAPACITY IT NEEDS TO BE, REGARDLESS OF REZONING OR EVEN A FOURTH HIGH SCHOOL, I MEAN, IF YOU LOOK AT 2032, THERE'S PROJECTED 4888 KIDS AT THAT SCHOOL.
NO WAY. YOU'D HAVE 100 PORTABLES SITTING OUT AROUND THAT THING.
WE WILL HAVE TO OPEN UP THE FOURTH HIGH SCHOOL, 20, 30, 30 ONE HALF SHOE.
AND SO I HAVE NO DOUBT IN THESE NUMBERS.
WE LOOKED AT THAT TODAY IN CABINET.
IF WE HIT THESE, IT'LL BE ABOUT 1000 MORE STUDENTS THAN WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
I SAW MR. UNCLE'S HAND, AND THEN MR. SEVERANCE IS IN. I JUST WANTED TO COMMENT ON CAPACITY.
I DEFINITELY THINK BEFORE 2032 IS WHEN WE HAVE A FOURTH HIGH SCHOOL.
BUT I WANTED TO COMMENT ON, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE RECEIVED A LOT OF COMMENTS ABOUT JOHNSON HIGH SCHOOL.
I HAD A STUDENT THAT GRADUATED THERE LAST YEAR.
HE WENT TO HAYES HIGH SCHOOL HIS FRESHMAN YEAR.
WHEN WE WERE WAITING ON JOHNSON TO OPEN, WE HAD 32,300 STUDENTS AT THAT CAMPUS.
DID WE MAKE IT WORK? YEAH, WE DID.
WAS IT GOOD FOR STUDENTS? ABSOLUTELY NOT.
IT WASN'T GOOD FOR STUDENTS AND IT'S NOT GOOD FOR THE STUDENTS AT JOHNSON HIGH SCHOOL TODAY.
AND WHEN WE LOOK AT SCHOOLS AND WE LOOK AT NUMBERS AND WE START COMPARING, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH GETS SPENT HERE AND HOW MUCH GETS SPENT HERE, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE KIDS, BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NUMBERS, BUT THAT THE KIDS ARE PART OF THAT NUMBER.
AND IF YOU'VE BEEN UP TO JOHNSON HIGH SCHOOL, BECAUSE I HAVE WE'VE HAD ABOUT 100 KIDS.
WE'VE HAD TO TURN AWAY IN CTE PROGRAMS ON VARIOUS CTE PROGRAMS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE SPACE.
WHEN YOU GO UP THERE AT LUNCH, I CAN'T EVEN TELL YOU WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
IT'S VERY, VERY CROWDED, EXTREMELY CROWDED.
WHEN YOU GO INTO CLASSROOMS, THEY ARE PACKED.
I GO UP THERE QUITE OFTEN LIKE I DO OTHER CAMPUSES.
SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT COMMENT BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE COMMENTS HAVE THEY'RE HARD TO READ.
BUT IF ANYONE WANTS TO WALK A CAMPUS WITH ME, I KNOW THAT DR.
WRIGHT HAS BEEN VERY OPEN ABOUT SHOWING PEOPLE WHAT OUR CAMPUSES LOOK LIKE.
WE'LL SHOW YOU THAT THEY ARE OVER CAPACITY AND THOSE ARE KIDS.
SO WE NEED TO START LOOKING AT THAT AND REMEMBERING THAT.
I JUST WANTED TO COMMENT THAT ON CAPACITY.
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BUT I ALSO THINK THAT 2032 IS WAY, WAY LATE FOR A FOURTH HIGH SCHOOL.IN FACT, IF I COULD PUT A NUMBER ON YEARS, I'D SAY 2027.
BUT I JUST THAT WAS ON MY HEART.
AND I FELT LIKE I NEEDED TO SAY THAT BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN SO MANY NEGATIVE COMMENTS ABOUT JOHNSON HIGH SCHOOL AND I CARE ABOUT THOSE KIDS AND I CARE ABOUT THOSE KIDS, THOSE TEACHERS AND STAFF THAT ARE AT THAT SCHOOL.
THANK YOU. MR.. AND JUST A REMINDER TO THE PUBLIC RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE 2668, SO ABOUT 30 KIDS OFF FROM BEING 2700 ISH AT JOHNSON.
JUST A REMINDER. AND MADAM PRESIDENT, MR. WINDSOR, WHICH REMINDED ME THAT THE CURRENT MASTER PLAN SHOWS THE FOURTH HIGH SCHOOL BEING DELIVERED IN 2029.
I DIDN'T. MY MEMORY WAS A LITTLE OFF.
WE'LL ONLY BE AT 3800 KIDS AT JOHNSON AT THAT POINT AND 3600 AT LEHMAN AND 3400 AT HAYS.
SO. PORTABLES GALORE? WELL, NO. IF IT'S DELIVERED THERE, IT WILL BE LESS THAN THAT BECAUSE YOU WOULD HAVE TO REZONE.
YOU HAD TO DO THREE YEARS BACK TO CONSTRUCT A HIGH SCHOOL.
RIGHT. SO YOU'D ALMOST BE LOOKING AT IT 20, 25 OR 26 BOND.
THAT'S CORRECT. 26 BOND AT THE LATEST.
YOU'RE UP. IS THAT FEASIBLE IN OUR BOND CAPACITY? I'M SURE YOU'VE GOT THAT ALL MAPPED OUT.
JESSICA BEDWELL IS HERE TO IS IS ON THE TEN YEAR PLAN ALREADY.
WE ALSO NEED TO CONSIDER DO YOU WANT TO DO LIKE WE DID THE LAST TIME, WHERE YOU HAVE A SELECTION PROCESS BEFORE YOU GO INTO THE BOND PROCESS? I THINK THE SITE SELECTION SITE SELECTION, THAT'S A YEAR OR A SEMESTER.
THAT'S WHY IT'D BE LIKE A JANUARY.
HOW ABOUT WE JUST GET A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE ADMINISTRATION AND CALL IT GOOD? ARE WE WITH HELP FROM THE DEMOGRAPHER AND ALL THE DATA? OF COURSE. ALL OF THIS PUNDITS.
FROM A CAPACITY STANDPOINT, WE RAN A SLOW GROWTH, MEDIUM GROWTH AND FAT FAST GROWTH.
SET OF SCENARIOS FROM NOW THROUGH 2032.
SO YEAH, CAN YOU GET CLOSER TO THE MIC? MR.. THANKS. MR..
DUSTY TRAYLOR, OUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR.
WE RAN SLOW, MEDIUM AND FAST GROWTH SCENARIOS OVER A TEN YEAR PERIOD FROM NOW THROUGH 2032.
NOW, LISTEN, IF THINGS HAPPEN WITH REGARDS TO TO GROWTH, THAT'S THAT'S ONE THING.
RIGHT. WITH WITH KIDS COME NEW HOUSES COME NEW DEVELOPMENT AND COME INCREASES IN TAX BASE.
SO WE'RE CONFIDENT IN THOSE IN THOSE SCENARIOS.
OKAY THANK YOU. AS WE DON'T WANT TO LOSE THEM TO COMPETITOR HIGH SCHOOLS NOW DO WE.
CAN WE GET BACK TO OUR TOPIC ON PROPOSITIONS? YES. BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE SOME CONVERSATIONS WE NEED TO HAVE ABOUT PROP A AS WELL.
YOU HAVE TO VOTE ON AN ACTUAL ELECTION ORDER.
BUT JUST FOR YOUR PLANNING PURPOSES.
BECAUSE WE'RE NOT IF YOU DON'T KNOW, RIGHT, WE'RE NOT VOTING.
NO, NO, NO. BUT BUT IF YOU IF WE NEED A CONSENSUS ON WHAT TO DO, WE'RE GOING TO GET IT.
COME ON. THE THIRD DIET COKE FOR THE NIGHT.
I BELIEVE IN THIS TEAM. WE'RE GOING TO GET TO CONSENSUS.
I'M LOOKING AROUND EVERYBODY'S.
I MEAN, I'M JUST GOING TO I'M GOING TO.
I'M JUST GOING TO START IT OFF AND JUST SAY IT OUT LOUD.
SO I BELIEVE THAT THERE IS NEED DOWN THE ROAD AND THE INTENT, THE MULTIPURPOSE PAVILIONS.
I LIKE THE IDEA OF MULTIPURPOSE PAVILIONS.
I MEAN, WE WANTED TO ADD WEIGHT ROOMS TO IT.
YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE'S DEFINITELY SOME I THINK TO TO REMAIN COMPETITIVE ATHLETICALLY.
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MOVE THAT DOWN THE ROAD A LITTLE BIT UNTIL WE CAN KIND OF REALLY FEEL OUT WHAT ELSE WE COULD DO WITH THAT SPACE, WITH, YOU KNOW, WEIGHT ROOMS, I DON'T KNOW, ANOTHER GYM, SOMETHING ELSE TO SUPPORT A 3000 KIDDO, 2800 KID HIGH SCHOOLS, AND THEN POSSIBLY USE THOSE FUNDS FOR THIS BOND TO ACTUALLY GO AHEAD AND DO THE EXPANSIONS AT THE OTHER TWO HIGH SCHOOLS.NOW. SO THEN WHEN THEY OPEN IN 2025, THEN YOU'LL HAVE FUNCTIONAL CAPACITY AT LEHMANN AND AND AT HAYS AT 2800.
AND THEN YOU HAVE YOU CAN BUILD INTO THAT CAPACITY.
AND THEN ONCE THE HIGH SCHOOL COMES LINE 28 AND TAKES A THOUSAND KIDS OUT, THEN YOU'RE, YOU'RE GOING TO BE SET UP WITH SOME EXTRA CLASSROOMS, SUPPORT SOME EXTRA POSSIBLE ROOM FOR SOME CTE CLASSROOMS DOWN THE ROAD.
BUT I WOULD BE A PROPONENT OF OF LOOKING AT MOVING THE HIGH SCHOOL ADDITIONS FOR THE ACADEMIC ADDITIONS FOR LEHMANN AND HAYS AND DOING IT NOW IN LIEU OF THE DOLLARS USING FOR THE OUTDOOR PAVILION.
MR. CLEAVER I'M ASSUMING THAT IT'S GOING TO BE SIMILAR TO THE JOHNSON EXPANSION AT 38 MILLION.
SO YOU'RE AT WHAT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, 76 MILLION.
SO IT'S THERE'S THERE'LL BE MORE, THERE'LL BE MORE DOLLARS.
BUT YOU KNOW, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO THEN COME BACK IN 2025 AND BOND IT THEN, AND THEN YOU CAN START LOOKING AT HIGH SCHOOL EVEN NUMBER FOUR AS MAYBE 2025, I MEAN MAYBE 2026.
I'M A BIG BELIEVER OF GETTING SOME CAPACITY BUILT INTO THESE PLACES BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE.
SO THE CURRENT MASTER PLAN HAS US DOING THE HEY AGAIN, CURRENT MASTER PLAN PRIOR TO NEW POS DATA.
YEP. HAD HAYES HIGH SCHOOL WITH THE NEW CAPACITY COMING ON IN 2028 AND LEHMAN IN 2029.
SO LIKE I SAID, WE'RE PROBABLY A YEAR LATE ON ONE AND POTENTIALLY TWO YEARS LATE ON THE OTHER.
RIGHT. AND THEY COULD GO I MEAN, THINGS COULD SLOW DOWN TOO, BUT THAT WOULD BE MY MY RECOMMENDATION IF WE HAD TO LOOK AT SOME CAPACITY NOW AT THE HIGH SCHOOLS TO GET ACTUALLY GET AHEAD OF OUR GROWTH ACADEMICALLY INSTEAD OF ALWAYS JUST BEHIND.
AND THEN WE HAVE A SITUATION LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE AUTO TECH AT LEHMAN HIGH SCHOOL WHEN THEY'RE THERE, HAVE A CLASSROOM IN A BAY INSTEAD OF WORKING ON AN ACTUAL CAR, WE CAN HAVE SOME CLASSROOM SPACE BUILT INTO THE CAMPUSES WHERE BREAKAWAY TEACHERS, YOU KNOW, WE CAN SEND BREAKAWAY CLASSES OR WHATEVER.
ANYWAY, THAT'S JUST MY I'M JUST GOING TO THROW THAT OUT THERE JUST FOR DISCUSSION.
SO THE LEHMAN CTE AUTO IS INCLUDED IN THIS BOND.
JUST SO REMIND ME WHO OUR ARCHITECT IS FOR THE JOHNSON EXPANSION.
HUCKABEE. OKAY, SO JASON'S HERE TONIGHT.
SO HAVE WE ALREADY DONE ANY KIND OF DESIGN, ARCHITECTURE, PLANNING, ANYTHING FOR LAYMAN OR, HEY, THE SATELLITE IMAGES WITH THE SCALED BOXES THAT BEEN ASSIGNED UNIT PRICING TO TRY TO GET A BUDGET TOGETHER.
SO. JUST YEAH, JUST TO DO SOME VERY GENERIC FLOOR PLAN WORK, JUST TO SEE HOW THINGS MIGHT BE ABLE TO LAY OUT JUST TO DETERMINE POTENTIAL SQUARE FOOTAGE, WHICH DIRECTLY EQUATES TO COST.
BUT IT'S BEEN IT'S BEEN AT A VERY HIGH ROUGH LEVEL.
OKAY. WE DON'T WANT TO PREEMPT THE DESIGN PHASE, MR. MCMANUS. SO JUST REMIND ME OF SOME DATES.
THE JOHNSON EXPANSION PASSES, IT WOULD OPEN IN 25.
OKAY. SO I HEAR WHAT MR. SEVERANCE IS SAYING, BUT KNOWING NO LEGWORK IS DONE ON THAT, I DON'T KNOW HOW COMFORTABLE I AM JUST THROWING A ROUNDABOUT NUMBER AT EXPANSIONS.
WE HAD, I THINK, NATE, WERE YOU KIND OF DIGGING THOSE UP? THE WE'VE GOT THOSE NUMBERS ON THE MASTER PLAN.
WE CAN TELL YOU, I JUST HEARD THAT THERE'S NOT BEEN REALLY ANY ARCHITECTURAL WORK DONE.
IT'S JUST MAYBE SOME CONSTRUCTION GUESSWORK AT THIS POINT.
YEAH, I MEAN, IT'S BEEN ROUGHLY OUT KNOWING WHAT WAS REQUESTED IN TERMS OF PROGRAMMATIC SPACE.
SO THEY GAVE US A NUMBER OF CLASSROOMS. YOU KNOW, IF WE NEEDED TO ADD A THEATER, THEN WE KNOW HOW YOU KNOW, HOW MANY SEATS IT'S GOING TO BE.
WE KNOW HOW BIG THAT'S GOING TO BE.
ADD A THEATER WHERE? I'M SORRY. ADD A THEATER WHERE? LIKE AT LEHMAN, WHERE WE'RE ADDING THAT THEATER.
SO THEY SAID THEY NEEDED AN 800 SEAT THEATER.
WE KNOW HOW BIG AN AREA.. BUT WHAT RIGHT.
SO WHAT ABOUT THE CAPACITY INCREASE TO 2800? HAS THAT, HAS THERE ALREADY BEEN PRELIMINARY WORK DONE ON THAT? YES. SO THERE WAS YEAH, WE WERE GIVEN A NUMBER OF CLASSROOMS THAT WAS NECESSARY TO INCREASE THAT AS WELL AS WHATEVER SUPPORT CTE AND OTHER CURRICULAR SPACES ARE NEEDED TO
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SUPPORT THAT 2800 EVEN DOWN TO PARKING.SO IF WE'RE STAYING ON COST, THOUGH, WE'RE STILL PRETTY SHORT MONEY.
LIKE THERE'S 2746 PROJECTED HAYS IF WE OPENED IN 26 WITH 2800 WERE STILL GOOD.
LEHMANN'S AT 2638, PROJECTED IN 26.
I'M JUST SAYING IT LOOKS LIKE..
MISS GLORIA, WILL YOU PUT THE CAPACITY NUMBERS BACK UP WITH HIGH SCHOOL? AT LEAST THROUGH 26, THE GROWTH SEEMS REASONABLE AND THEN IT SEEMS TO JUST ESCALATE.
THE WILL OF THE BOARD IS GOING TO BE WHAT IT IS, BUT I DON'T SEE ANY AS LONG AS WE WE GO AHEAD AND SAY WE'RE GOING TO DO IT IN WAITING UNTIL 24 FOR TRYING A BOND PROPOSITION FOR HAYS AND LAYMAN AT THAT TIME, KNOWING THAT BY 26 THEY WOULD OPEN IT AND THEY WOULD STILL BE UNDER 2800.
THAT'S WHAT I'M SEEING IN THOSE NUMBERS, RIGHT? YOU TELL THAT IF YOU WIN A YEAR EARLY? YES, THAT WOULD BE THE INTENTION, BECAUSE ONCE WE GET TO 27 NOW WE'RE OPENING THE DOORS WITH TOO MANY KIDS.
BUT I'M JUST I'M JUST SAYING, WE CAN'T WE DON'T WAIT TOO LONG.
BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED TO DO IT TOMORROW.
I'D BE OPEN TO THAT CONVERSATION.
I'M JUST SAYING, BY 2026, WE'RE STILL OKAY AT THE 2800 ON THOSE TWO CAMPUSES.
THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS, MR. CLEAVER? YES, WE TALKED ABOUT I THINK ONE OF THE REASONS WE TALKED ABOUT THE 2029 OPENING, IT ALSO HAS TO DO WITH BEING ABLE TO PAY STAFF AND LIGHT BILL AND STUFF.
SO. WE JUST GOT TO BE REAL CAREFUL WE ABOUT OPENING IT TOO SOON BECAUSE THIS IS YOU KNOW, IT COMES OUT OF, YOU KNOW, THE OPERATIONS SIDE.
AND WE LOOKED AT AN OPENING UP A NEW HIGH SCHOOL, I THINK IT WAS AROUND 14 MILLION VERSUS INCREMENTALLY PUTTING, YOU KNOW, INCREASE IN CAPACITY WAS AROUND 4 MILLION. SO JUST KIND OF JUST JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT ON THAT.
JUST. PUT THAT OUT THERE ON THE MASTER PLAN, CURRENT MASTER PLAN.
WHAT WAS LEHMAN? 62 MILLION AND 17 MILLION FOR, 62 FOR HAYS AND 17 FOR LEHMAN.
MS. OROSCO, YOU HAVE A QUESTION? MR. SEVERANCE. YEAH. OKAY.
SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'LL JUST SEE.
JUST FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES, THE AND THIS FOR OUR BOARD AS WELL.
SO IT'S ASSUMING THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO A BOND IN 2024.
SO IF WE WAITED UNTIL 24, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE CAPACITY NUMBER WOULD LOOK LIKE TO DO ANYTHING IN 24 BECAUSE I THINK WE MOVED UP THAT CAPACITY.
I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT OUT LOUD.
DR. WRIGHT HAS A COMMENT AS WELL.
WHAT YOU COULD DO IS ADD THE DESIGN FEES IN NOW SO THAT IT WOULD BE SHOVEL READY AT THE END OF THE 25 LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT WITH TOM GREEN AND KYLE AND HEMPHILL AND FUENTES.
AND THEN YOU COULD START IMMEDIATELY AND THAT STILL MIGHT GET YOU IN AT THAT AT THAT 26.
AND THEN I LIKE MAX TO CLARIFY THE 62 MILLION VERSUS 17 MILLION.
YES, SIR. AND WE'RE LITERALLY JUST PULLING IT OFF THIS LAPTOP HERE.
YOU KNOW, I JUST ASSUMED IT WAS BE SOMEWHERE NEAR THE SAME NUMBER AS THE JOHNSON HIGH SCHOOL AT 30.
DIFFERENT BUILDING. IT'S A DIFFERENT BUILDING.
AND IT ROLLS IN THE GRAHAM GYM RENOVATION.
OH, I SEE. SO THERE'S A WHOLE OTHER LITTLE THINGS FAIR.
WE PROBABLY KNOW WHAT THOSE MIGHT BE TO ROLL THOSE IN.
YEAH. YEAH. WE COULD THROW A PERCENTAGE AT WHAT WE THINK THE CONSTRUCTION COST IS.
WE'LL GET BACK TO YOU IN JUST A MINUTE.
ON ON THAT, MR. CLEAVER, IF YOU WANT TO PUT SOME NUMBERS TO WHAT THAT MIGHT BE, I THINK ESPERANZA, AND THEN I'LL GO BACK TO MR. MCMANUS. DEFINITELY A GREAT SUGGESTION.
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DR.. RIGHT. I LIKE THE WAY YOU'RE THINKING BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO WAIT.I MEAN, I SEE WHAT YOU WERE SAYING, MR. MCMANUS, BUT JUST LIKE HOW WE JUST DID THIS LAST BOND WHERE WE HAD ELM GROVE COME ONLINE FIRST AND THEN WE HAD NEGLEY COME ON AFTER.
SO I MEAN, YOU PHASE IT SO IT CAN STILL BE PHASED IN, EVEN THOUGH WE PUT IT IN THE BOND THIS YEAR, CORRECT MR. CLEAVER? THE WHICH PART? I'M SORRY, I WAS DOING YOU DOING SOME MATH.
DR. WRIGHT, SO IS THAT CORRECT THAT WE CAN PHASE IT, WE CAN STILL PUT IT IN THIS BOND, THE SUGGESTION OF THOSE FEES, AND WE CAN PHASE IT IN JUST LIKE HOW WE BUILT ELM GROVE EXPANSION FIRST, THEN WE DID NEGLEY THE NEXT YEAR BECAUSE WE KNEW, EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE BOTH EXPLODING, BUT WE COULD PHASE IT IN AS WELL, WE WOULD HAVE TO.
WE'D HAVE TO PHASE IN THE CONSTRUCTION.
YES. SO TOTALLY APPROPRIATE AND TRYING TO GET AHEAD OF THAT, BECAUSE IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT JOHNSON AT 25, THEN IF WE WERE TO GET READY FOR HAYS BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO GET OVER CAPACITY FIRST, WE CAN DO HAYS AND THEN LEHMAN THE FOLLOWING YEAR.
OROSCO AND THEN THAT WOULD ACTUALLY THE DATA WOULD SUPPORT THAT.
YEAH. SO I THINK THE DESIGN FEES FOR THOSE PROJECTS IS A FANTASTIC SUGGESTION, BUT IT'S CONTINGENT ON, AT LEAST FOR ME, NOT DOING THE MULTIPURPOSE PAVILIONS, PER MR. CERVANTES'S SUGGESTION AT THIS TIME, THAT WE USE THOSE FUNDS FOR THIS PURPOSE, I DON'T KNOW.
FOR ME IT'S MUCH MORE IMPORTANT TO HAVE SEATS FOR THOSE KIDS.
BECAUSE IN MY OPINION, THESE COVERED PAVILIONS HAVE A ZILLION PURPOSES.
YOU CAN OBVIOUSLY USE THEM FOR ATHLETICS, BUT YOU CAN ALSO USE THEM FOR FINE ARTS.
RIGHT. SO. OBVIOUSLY BANNED COLOR GUARD.
FOOTBALL HAS MORE THAN JUST VARSITY.
THEY HAVE JV AND THEY HAVE FRESHMEN.
SOME OF THEM HAVE TWO FRESHMEN TEAMS. AND I MEAN, IT'S CRAZY AND THEY CAN'T ALL BE ON ONE PRACTICE FIELD.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY PUT THEM.
I KNOW THEY GET CREATIVE AND PUT THEM SOMEWHERE, BUT THAT'S WHY THE MARCHING BAND HAS TO HAVE ITS OWN LITTLE AREA OF THE PARKING LOT AND ACTUALLY SAW KIND OF A SNIDE COMMENT ABOUT HOW DARE THE BAND TAKE PART OF THE PARKING LOT AT JOHNSON FOR BAND PRACTICE? WELL, WHERE ELSE ARE THEY GOING TO GO? THEY CAN'T HAVE THE FOOTBALL FIELD BECAUSE THE FOOTBALL KIDS ARE ON THE FOOTBALL FIELD.
SO I HAVE HEARD THAT THEY USE THE OUTFIELD IN THE BASEBALL FIELDS TO PRACTICE THINGS AS WELL.
BUT THERE'S ON THE GRASS? YEAH. YEAH, THEY.
COACH MOFFITT, COME TO THE MIC.
TELL US AGAIN WHY YOU WANT THESE PAVILIONS.
WE TALKED ABOUT THE MULTIPURPOSE FINE ARTS PRIORITY SPACE.
THAT'S GOING TO BE LIKE A GYM, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE A REHEARSAL AREA.
THAT SPACE AFFECTS OTHER SPACE THAT'S BEING USED CURRENTLY.
AND THEN THE MULTIPURPOSE COVERED OUTDOOR FACILITY AFFECTS ALL THAT SPACE.
IT'S ALL ABOUT WHERE WE PUT THE TEAMS. YOU JUST DESCRIBED IT REALLY WELL IN TERMS OF WHERE WE PRACTICE.
I DON'T KNOW. I'VE NEVER HAD A KID IN FOOTBALL.
BUT I JUST SEE, YOU KNOW, WE YOU KNOW, YOU SEE THE GAMES, THERE'S A GAME EVERY NIGHT OF THE WEEK BECAUSE THEY HAVE SO MANY DIFFERENT TEAMS. YEAH, RIGHT.
THAT WAS THE BIGGEST THING WE GOT FROM OUR SURVEY WAS WE JUST NEED MORE SPACE.
YEAH. AND THAT'S I MEAN, THAT'S THE SIMPLE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION.
JOHNSON OBVIOUSLY IS THE MODEL IN OUR MIND BECAUSE OF ITS OVERGROWTH RIGHT NOW.
AND SO WE NEED SOMETHING TO ACCOMMODATE ALL THE DIFFERENT PLACES THOSE KIDS NEED TO GO.
I'M NOT SURE USING THE BASEBALL FIELDS FOR PRACTICE NOW IS THE GREATEST IDEA.
BUT THEY I'VE SEEN THEM DO BOTH AT HAYS AND AT JOHNSON OK, JUST FOUR PLACES FOR FRESHMEN TO GO.
SO THEY DON'T USE IT REGULARLY.
THEY USE IT FOR FOOTBALL PRACTICE ALMOST EVERY DAY DURING TRAINING CAMP FOR SURE.
AND THESE AND THESE PAVILIONS WOULD JUST BE LIKE A COVERED OPEN AIR SPACE.
YES, MA'AM. BATHROOMS, NOTHING.
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ANY KIND OF BATHROOMS OR ANYTHING? NO, MA'AM. NO, NO, NO.THAT'S THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF IT.
JUST BEING COVERED IS THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THE HVAC.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO ALL THE ALL THE STUFF THAT GOES WITH A TOTAL ENCLOSED BUILDING.
AND I FOUND SOME TURF TODAY THAT LOOKS LIKE WE PUT A SOFTBALL FIELD ON ONE END.
SO THERE'S THERE'S THERE'S ALL KINDS OF MULTIPURPOSE USES TO.
OKAY. WELL, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE CALLED MULTIPURPOSE PAVILIONS.
WELL, IN THE FINE ARTS, KIDS WANT TO USE THEM, TOO.
SO HOPEFULLY THAT WILL BE THAT WAS AN EXAMPLE AND FBOC WAS MS. MORENO USED WAS TWO YEARS AGO WHEN HAYS BAND WENT TO STATE THE WEEK OF THE STATE PERFORMANCE.
THEY COULD USE THOSE FACILITIES ON CAMPUS.
I MEAN, AND I JUST ASSUME THEY WERE FOR, YOU KNOW, AUGUST TWO DAYS.
IT DOES RAIN AND BAND INSTRUMENTS AND RAIN AREN'T RIGHT EITHER.
SO. OKAY. MR. MCMANUS. SO I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THE MULTIPURPOSE PAVILIONS, BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO FIND MONEY SOMEWHERE TO DO THINGS THAT ARE URGENT.
AND SO FOR ME, THE SPACE IS URGENT.
I THINK THE MULTIPURPOSE PAVILIONS ARE A GREAT IDEA AND I THINK MAYBE WE OUGHT TO HAVE THEM SOMEDAY.
I'M JUST NOT SURE TODAY IS THAT DAY.
TURF. SO I WAS OPPOSED TO TURF FOUR SINCE DAY ONE.
AND PART OF THE REASON WAS I ASKED MULTIPLE TIMES ACROSS MULTIPLE YEARS FOR BACKUP FOR WHY TURF MADE COST SENSE AND NEVER REALLY GOT A SATISFACTORY ANSWER UNTIL THIS YEAR.
I FEEL LIKE COACH MOFFITT AND TEAM DID A FANTASTIC JOB OF PUTTING A PRESENTATION TOGETHER THAT MADE SENSE FROM A STUDENT PERSPECTIVE, A COST PERSPECTIVE AND ENVIRONMENTAL PERSPECTIVE, ALL OF THOSE THINGS.
AND IT WAS LIKE, OH, OKAY, THIS ALL MAKES REALLY GOOD SENSE.
SO IF I'M GOING TO GET BEHIND $52 MILLION FOR ANYTHING, THERE BETTER BE A REALLY WELL THOUGHT OUT USE CASE FOR WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH IT, INCLUDING HOW IT'S SCHEDULED, WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR IT, HOW IT'S MAINTAINED AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS.
NOT JUST BECAUSE WE NEED WE NEED SPACE.
SO THAT'S WHY I'M THERE WITH THAT.
AND THAT'S JUST WHERE I'M AT WITH THAT TODAY.
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, MR. VELA. YEAH, SO STICKING WITH THE COVERED PAVILIONS, I HEARD ONE OF THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AT ONE OF THE PUBLIC FORUMS MENTIONED THAT IT WAS GIVING US A PLACE.
SO LIKE WE JUST MENTIONED A LITTLE WHILE AGO ABOUT BEND.
RIGHT. BUT IF IT'S NOT AN ENCLOSED SPACE, DOES IT REALLY GIVE US SHELTER? I MEAN, WE KNOW THE TEXAS WEATHER IS DEFINITELY VERY CHALLENGING.
YOU KNOW, IS THIS A PLACE WHERE THERE'S STILL, YOU KNOW, LIGHTNING STRIKES IN THE AREA? DO WE HAVE TO EVACUATE AND GET INTO A CLOSED FACILITY? YOU KNOW, ARE WE ACCOMMODATING FOR ALL THE DIFFERENT VARIATIONS OF WEATHER HERE IN TEXAS? I REMEMBER WE HAD THE ACTUAL LIGHTNING CONVERSATION AND THE ANSWER WAS, NO, YOU DON'T HAVE TO MOVE.
GET OUT OF THE COVERED PAVILION.
WAS THAT WERE YOU? IT'S JUST IT'S A REGULAR BUILDING.
BUT YEAH IT'S WARM, OBVIOUSLY.
SO I FEEL LIKE MAYBE WE NEED TO COME TO CONSENSUS ABOUT.
SO ANY OTHER COMMENTS, MS. RUNKLE. YEAH.
SO I'M GOING TO GO OFF TOPIC A LITTLE BIT HERE, BUT THE SAME THING.
SO I'M IN SUPPORT OF THIS BECAUSE OF SPACE.
THAT SAID, I WAS REALLY SAD TO SEE, YOU KNOW, THE CHANGES TO TOM GREEN AND KYLE ELEMENTARY AND THEN THE ADDED OF HEMPHILL AND FUENTES.
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AND SO I JUST YOU KNOW, I.I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THESE CAMPUSES FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS NOW, AND I'VE HEARD TONIGHT THAT THE NEXT POTENTIAL BOND WOULD BE 2025, WHICH MEANS WE'D BE PUTTING THESE CAMPUSES OFF MORE.
IT FEELS YUCKY THAT FOSSEY WASN'T A PART OF THAT CONVERSATION.
WE KNEW THAT THESE FOUR CAMPUSES WERE GOING TO NEED SOME LOVE, GOING TO NEED SOME ATTENTION.
AND HERE WE ARE AT THE LAST HOT HOUR TALKING ABOUT THIS.
AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO PUSH THESE BACK.
AND I WANT TO HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY ABOUT IT.
AND I WANT TO KNOW HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT IT, BECAUSE I DO HEAR FROM KYLE ELEMENTARY STAFF.
I DO HEAR FROM TOM GREEN, ELEMENTARY STAFF AND PARENTS AND COMMUNITY.
SO I DO WANT TO HEAR A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHY THIS CAME TO FRUITION AND REALLY WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE AS FAR AS ZONING GOES, IF YOU CAN KIND OF TALK ABOUT THAT, DR.
SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S REALLY UNDERSTOOD WHAT THIS BIGGER PLAN IS.
AND I WANT TO HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY ABOUT IT, TOO.
SURE IT'S REALLY NUMBERS DRIVEN.
AND BARBARA, IF YOU CAN PUT THE ELEMENTARY NUMBERS UP, YOU'LL SEE THE NUMBERS FOR KYLE DON'T HIT THE CAPACITY MARK UNTIL 2027-2028.
AND THEN WITH TOM GREEN, IT DOESN'T HIT THE MAX UNTIL 2032.
SO WE WERE JUST LOOKING AT FUNCTIONAL CAPACITY AND NUMBER OF SEATS.
AND SO WE WERE THINKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO YOU DO WITH THOSE OLDER CAMPUSES THAT WOULDN'T BE MORE THAN JUST A BAND AID? AND SO WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT THE TOTAL NUMBER OF ELEMENTARY SEATS AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
AND IF WE TOOK THESE FOR OLDER FACILITIES AND ADDED CAPACITY TO THEM, THEN THEY GET BASICALLY A NEW A NEW BUILD WITH MORE NEW SPACE THAN THE OLD SPACE.
AND THEN IT RAISES THE NUMBER OF SEATS ALMOST TO AROUND 607 HUNDRED.
SO THAT'S PROBABLY MEANS YOU CAN DO WITHOUT ONE FUTURE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL ONCE YOU REZONE.
AND SO WE JUST THOUGHT IT WOULD BE WISE TO DO THAT.
AND HONESTLY, WE WOULDN'T HAVE GOTTEN INTO THAT.
SO WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT WHAT DO WE NEED RIGHT NOW, AND BASED ON THE FEEDBACK WE GOT FROM ALL THE PUBLIC COMMENTS, THAT'S WHY WE WE IT'S NOT THAT IT'S NOT IMPORTANT. IT'S JUST YOU CAN'T DO EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF THE CAPACITY.
CAN YOU PROVIDE US THE DETAILS ON YOUR BLOG? WHAT MAKES UP THIS 56 MILLION CONSTRUCTION ESTIMATE AND THE 30 MILLION CONSTRUCTION ESTIMATE? I CAN TELL YOU HOW I GOT THERE.
OKAY. YEAH. SO WE LOOKED AT KYLE AND TOM GREEN AND WE SAID, OKAY, THAT'S WHAT SCOPE IS THAT? WHAT LEVEL IS THAT? HOW MUCH WORK IS THAT GOING TO BE? AND WE KIND OF AKIN DID OR LIKENED IT TO LIKE A DAHLSTROM SIZED PROJECT.
SO I TOOK THAT BELIEVE THAT 18 MILLION FROM DAHLSTROM AND APPLIED SOME CONTINGENCY OR EXCUSE ME SOME ESCALATION TO IT AND THAT'S HOW I GOT TO THE 56,000,004. LOOKED AT THE NUMBER OF CLASSROOMS AND THINGS WE DID FOR FUENTES AND HEMPHILL, WE SIMPLY WENT BACK TO ELM GROVE, TOOK THAT CONSTRUCTION NUMBER, MOVED IT FORWARD A COUPLE OF YEARS WITH WITH THE FEE, WITH THE.
YOU KNOW, GOSH, I KEEP DRAWING A BLANK ESCALATION.
THANK YOU. AND CAME UP WITH THAT NUMBER.
THESE THESE PARTICULAR FEES ARE BASED ON SIX AND A HALF PERCENT.
OK MR. MCMANUS MENTIONED THAT ANOTHER PROP AND ADDING THINGS WERE YOU THINKING DESIGN FEES ALSO ON AN ADDITIONAL PROP SEPARATED WITH THE OTHER THINGS THAT WERE MENTIONED AS FAR AS THE OR A GENERAL PURPOSE.
YEAH, THE GENERAL. DO YOU MIND IF I ANSWER THAT? OKAY. AT LEAST HISTORICALLY, WE'VE PUT CONSTRUCTION AND DESIGN FEES IN ONE.
SO TO ME, THOSE WOULD BE A PART OF.
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AND RIGHT NOW WE HAVE THE DESIGN FEES FOR FOR HIGH SCHOOL FOUR IN PROP A.SO THAT WOULD WOULD MAKE SENSE.
WHEN ARE YOU MEETING WITH FBOC AGAIN? WE ARE MEETING NEXT WEDNESDAY NIGHT IS ON THE SCHEDULE RIGHT NOW.
OKAY. CAN YOU GET THEIR OPINION ON THIS PARTICULAR BECAUSE THEY VOTED VERY HIGHLY OF THIS AND I AND I REMEMBER THAT THERE WAS A VERY LARGE CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT IT.
WE CAN ACCEPT IT WILL BE AFTER [INAUDIBLE] I STILL WANT TO KNOW HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT IT.
OKAY. SO ON THE ON THE ELEMENTARY EXPANSION PLAN AND CHANGES, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER CONCERNS OR QUESTIONS? I HAVE ONE QUESTION AND THAT IS ABOUT TOBIAS.
THEY LOOK LIKE THEY'RE GOING TO RUN OUT OF ROOM.
IS THERE A REASON PLAN? BECAUSE HEMPHILL IS DOWN THE STREET AND THEY'RE ALREADY ALSO RUNNING OUT OF SPACE.
EVEN IF YOU PUT THEM TO 900, IT'S STILL PRETTY TIGHT.
SO IS THERE A PLAN TO ALLEVIATE TOBIAS? IN THE MEDIA, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE THE PORTABLES.
AND COULD THEY BE PART OF THIS PLAN IS WHAT I'M BECAUSE THEY'RE NEGLEY'S SISTER SCHOOL, TOBIAS.
SO DON'T FORGET ABOUT ELEMENTARY 17 THAT'S IN HERE.
SO THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE ON THAT SIDE.
SO WHEN WE REZONE THAT WILL FREE UP SEATS.
ALL RIGHT? I'M JUST MAKING SURE WE WE'VE.
LOOKED AT ALL OF THE ONES THAT ARE I DON'T KNOW WHAT COLOR YOU CALL THAT BEIGE.
SO THERE IS A PLAN FOR TOBIAS OTHER THAN A PORTABLE VILLAGE.
ALL RIGHT, TEAM, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SOME HARD DECISIONS.
ARE WE READY? HOLD UP YOUR FINGER.
DO WE WANT THREE OR FOUR PROPS? WHAT ARE YOU THINKING? YEP.
HOW MANY DO YOU WANT? LET'S SEE IF WE CAN GET TO CONSENSUS ON HOW MANY PROPS WE WANT.
OH, MAN, IT FEELS LIKE A SPLIT VOTE.
ALL RIGHT, RAUL, WHY DO YOU WANT TO, WHY DO YOU WANT THREE? I THINK WE HAVE A GOOD STRATEGY TO PACKAGE TO REPACKAGE THE PROPS.
I MEAN, IF WE NEED TO PUSH TO FOUR, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO IT.
YOU JUST ASK FOR ME TO HOLD UP FINGERS AND THREE FELT MORE COMFORTABLE THAN FOUR.
I JUST FEEL LIKE THERE'S AND THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'M DOING THIS.
THIS IS ALL TOTALLY NEW TO ME.
THAT'S AN E-LEARNING. BUT I NOTICED THAT THERE IS, LIKE MR. MCMANUS MENTIONED, THERE'S 25 ITEMS UNDER PROPOSITION A, AND I THINK SOME OF THOSE ITEMS, AS TRUSTEE OROSCO MENTIONED ALSO COULD GO INTO A DIFFERENT PROPOSITION. AND THERE'S ALSO POSSIBILITIES FOR FUTURE, YOU KNOW, SO I'M JUST KIND OF LOOKING AT ALL OF THOSE THINGS, AND I JUST THINK WE CAN DIVIDE THEM SO THAT OUR COMMUNITIES ARE ABLE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, WE CHUNK THINGS AND KIND OF A WAY THAT ALL I MEAN, EVERYTHING HERE IS GOING TO IMPACT OUR STUDENTS.
AND SO WE JUST KIND OF WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT BY THEM AND OUR COMMUNITIES.
MS. OROSCO, WHY DID YOU SAY WHAT YOU SAID? BUT I. WHAT NUMBER DID YOU HOLD UP? I CAN GO EITHER WAY.
WE CAN DO, WE CAN RENAME THEM.
YOU KNOW, HOW WOULD YOU RENAME THEM? IN GROUP M, WE CAN DO LIKE AN EDUCATIONAL ACADEMIC ONE, AND THEN WE CAN DO ONE.
THE MARKETING GIRL OF ME SAYS NO.
WE'LL DO SOMETHING ELSE. OTHER STUFF. WELL, I THINK MR. SAVOY WOULD PROBABLY HAVE A BETTER NAME FOR IT.
AND I DON'T HATE AND JUST THINK ABOUT THIS.
IF WE DID FINE ARTS, ATHLETICS AND CTE AND ONE PROP.
AS IN THE PROP B BECAUSE YOU COULD DO SORT OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE GENERAL ACADEMIC OR CORE ACADEMIC OR HOWEVER YOU WANT TO SAY IT, OR GROWTH, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT A LOT OF IT IS IN PROP A, IT'S JUST GROWTH.
MR. MCMANUS, YOU HAVE A BRILLIANT IDEA.
RARELY DO I HAVE ONE OF THOSE, BUT I LIKE THAT.
OKAY, SO LET'S TALK LET'S STAY ON THREE FOR A SECOND.
IF WE DID THREE, I LIKE PROP A BEING SOMETHING WHAT YOU JUST SAID.
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ACADEMIC AND GROWTH.FOR ME, I WOULD ACTUALLY CALL IT FINE ARTS, ATHLETICS AND CTE.
CAN WE DO THAT BOND COUNCIL? IF THEY CAN ALL BE ONE, WE CAN DO WHAT WE WANT WITH THREE, RIGHT? AND THEN TECHNOLOGY BY ITSELF IN IN FOUR AND DR.
IS THAT NOT IS THAT NOT THE CASE? THEY CAN'T. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.
SO IF WE GO IN THAT DIRECTION, I'VE BEEN SORT OF TAKING NOTES.
WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT MOVING TO PROP B, THE REHEARSAL BAND FOR JOHNSON.
THEN YOU'D MOVE THE JOHNSON VET TECH.
RIGHT. YOU'D MOVE THE LEHMAN BASEBALL, SOFTBALL FACILITIES.
MAY I PLEASE? YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT IMPACTS OTHERS.
THAT JOHNSON VET TECH TO COSMO BARBERING THAT ACTUALLY IMPACTS SOME OF THE ADMIN AREAS.
I BELIEVE SO THAT ONE IS A INTEGRAL PIECE TO THE JOHNSON ACADEMIC PIECE BECAUSE WE WERE GOING TO MOVE SOME OF THAT OUT INTO THE NEW INTO THE NEW EDITION SO THAT ONE WOULD NEED TO STAY WITH THE.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. WELL, I WAS JUST TRYING TO ANSWER.
WHAT? OH, I WAS GOING TO SAY, YEAH, THAT EVEN THOUGH IT'S CTE, THE PREDOMINANT PROJECT THERE WOULD BE THE ACADEMIC EXPANSION. AND BASICALLY WHAT THAT CTE LINE ITEM IS DOING IS, IS IT'S EXPANDING COSMETOLOGY CORRECT. AND IT'S EXPANDING IT INTO THE CURRENT VET TECH AREA.
I DON'T MIND BEING SET, WE'VE DONE IT BEFORE WITH LIVE OAK AND THE ADMIN BUILDING.
AND I CANNOT LOOK SOMEBODY IN THE EYE AND SAY, WELL, THERE WAS THIS WHOLE THING, BUT THE ADMIN BUILDING HAD TO MOVE AND THE YEAH, SO I'M GOING DOWN HERE AND STOP ME IF THERE'S LIKE A DRIVEWAY THAT IS ASSOCIATED WITH SOMETHING THAT I DIDN'T GET.
I'VE GOT LEHMAN PARKING IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE TIED TO THE THEATER.
THOSE MOVED TO B? THAT'S CORRECT. THE 4.2 MILLION.
WHAT ABOUT ADAPTIVE PLAYGROUNDS, FRIENDS? DO WE SAY THAT'S ACADEMIC AND GROWTH, OR DO WE SAY THAT'S PROP B? GROWTH? PROP A.
UNLESS SOMEBODY FEELS DIFFERENTLY, THAT FEELS MORE LIKE SECURITY STUFF.
YEAH, THAT'S JUST THE LOCATION IT'S AT.
WE COULD ALSO SAY USE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE SCHOOL, RIGHT? THAT WOULD BE BETTER. HAYS HIGH SCHOOL PARKING AND DRIVE.
I MADE A NOTE TO MOVE THAT TO B.
THEN WE KEEP PROP B THE WAY IT IS.
AND THEN WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT PAVILIONS, WHETHER THEY STAY OR GO.
DOWN AT THE BOTTOM. REMEMBER, WE'VE GOT BUSSES IMPACT CENTER THAT STAYS.
TOM GREEN, KYLE IMPROVEMENTS AND THEN DESIGN FEES.
AND THEN WE WANT TO ADD DESIGN FEES FOR THE HIGH SCHOOL EXPANSIONS.
YES. MADAM PRESIDENT, REAL QUICK MATH AND THIS WOULD BE GOING FOR THE 2025 BOND ITEMS. AT LEHMAN, IT'S 29 MILLION TOTAL AND IT'D BE ABOUT A $2.1 MILLION FEE ESTIMATED AT 7% IF THERE'S ANY REIMBURSEMENTS. AND IT HAYS HIGH SCHOOL WOULD BE 94 MILLION.
CONSTRUCTION ESTIMATED AT 6.6 MILLION FEE.
EIGHT SEVEN. FOR THE HIGH SCHOOL PLANNING.
SO WE NEED TO MAKE ROOM FOR THAT.
MA'AM. WE NEED TO MAKE ROOM FOR THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ROOM FOR THAT.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING ON THIS, THE CAPACITY.
SO WE WERE UNDER WE'RE AT 364.
THE CAPACITY IS 365 AT THAT LOW LEVEL.
AND I BELIEVE AT THE MEDIUM LEVEL, IT WENT TO 372 AND A HALF.
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AND AT THE HIGH LEVEL, IT'S AROUND 410 FOR THESE TWO YEARS.MR. TRAYLOR. YOU LOOK LIKE YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING.
SO ONE THING TO ONE THING TO KEEP IN MIND IS WE'VE GOT BOND CAPACITY.
EACH YEAR FROM NOW THAT WE'VE THAT WE'VE MODELED OUT EACH YEAR FROM NOW TO 2032.
RIGHT. AND SO, SURE, WE'VE WE'VE MODELED OUT LOW, MEDIUM AND HIGH GROWTH SCENARIOS AND GIVEN A NUMBER TO TO THE BONDING CAPACITY IN EACH OF THE YEARS 23, 24, 25 AND 26.
BUT THAT IS NOT TO SAY THAT YOU COULD NOT TAKE SOMETHING LIKE WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS BOND BASED ON THE CAPACITY WE MODELED AVAILABLE TO US IN 24 AND 25.
THAT IS NOT TO SAY THAT YOU WOULDN'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PULL SOME OF THE 25 OR 26 CAPACITY INTO THIS BOND. SURE.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE MIGHT HAVE TO DEAL WITH LATER FOR OTHER PROJECTS, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS SOMETHING YOU COULD CONSIDER AS IT RELATES TO YOUR OVERARCHING CAPACITY.
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS THAT THAT WAS OUT THERE.
THANK YOU, MR. MCMANUS. I MEAN, I KNOW THAT WAS JUST ADVICE.
I'M NOT COMFORTABLE DOING THAT.
I'M ONLY COMFORTABLE DOING THE 24 POLL BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO A BOND IN 24.
ALL THE REASON I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
SO MY PREFERENCE IS THAT WE FIND THE MONEY SOMEWHERE IN HERE TO FUND THIS 8.7 MILLION, RECOGNIZING THAT ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE IMPORTANT, BUT IT'S JUST GOING TO MOVE IT.
IT'S NOT WE'RE NOT SAYING DON'T EVER DO IT.
WE'RE JUST SAYING WE'RE JUST NOT GOING TO DO IT IN 2023.
AND THAT'S NOT I MEAN, THAT'S OKAY.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN MAKE IT THE END OF THE WORLD.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHERE I'M AT WITH THAT.
AND THEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT ESPECIALLY WHAT HAYS HIGH SCHOOL NEEDS.
WHEN YOU LISTEN TO JESUS EARLIER, YOU'RE LOOKING AT 29 MILLION VERSUS 52, AND THEN YOU COULD GET THE WEIGHT ROOMS. NOW PUT THE MULTIPURPOSE IN THE FUTURE.
WE DON'T HAVE THE DOLLAR FIGURE RIGHT, RIGHT IN FRONT OF US FOR WEIGHT ROOMS. CAN YOU REMIND US, IS IT.
29. 29, WELL, THAT'S A GREAT THAT'S AN IDEA.
THAT'S A SUGGESTION. I KNOW THE COACHES WOULD BE HAPPY WITH THAT.
BUT THAT'S AN IDEA TO THINK ABOUT.
SO 29 MILLION FOR WEIGHT ROOMS BRINGS US WELL WITHIN OUR $8 MILLION NEED FOR THE DESIGN FEES TO EXPAND THE HIGH SCHOOLS.
OKAY I FEEL LIKE I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF SUPPORT FOR THAT HERE, BUT I FEEL LIKE I HAVE IT OVER HERE.
WHAT DO PEOPLE THINK ABOUT? I WANT TO HEAR WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT PAVILIONS IN GENERAL.
VERSUS THE HIGH SCHOOL DESIGN FEES.
GIVEN THAT UP OR THE IDEA OF SWITCHING OUT THE WEIGHT ROOMS FOR THE PAVILION? I'M GOING TO START OVER HERE ON MY ON MY LEFT, MR. VELA. WELL, FIRST OF ALL, MS..
PETREA, YOU DO HAVE SUPPORT OVER HERE? YEAH. I THINK THE DESIGN FEES FOR THE HIGH SCHOOL ARE DEFINITELY A NEED.
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AND WE SAID IF WE GET THE DESIGN, WE'D BE SHOVEL READY BY I JUST REMIND ME AGAIN ON YEAH, WE WOULD BE READY FOR WHEN WE WENT FOR THE CONSTRUCTION FEES, WE, FOR THE CONSTRUCTION COST WE WOULD BE READY BY 25.WRIGHT YOUR SUGGESTION, THE FLIP FLOP THE PAVILIONS FOR THE WEIGHT ROOM.
I MEAN I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO BE JUST STAY WITH THE, YOU KNOW, THE BOND LIMIT.
AND I AGREE WITH MR. MCMANUS. I DON'T WANT TO TAKE FROM, YOU KNOW, MORE THAN MORE THAN A YEAR OUT OF A BOND CAPACITY.
SO, I MEAN, I CERTAINLY WOULD ENTERTAIN THAT.
COACH MOFFITT, CAN YOU COME UP REAL QUICK? SO, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WHEN WE PRESENTED THIS TO THE BOSSI, THEY TALKED ABOUT ADDING THE WEIGHT ROOMS ON AFTER THE MULTIPURPOSE.
BUT THEY TALKED ABOUT DOING BOTH BUT JUST WITH THE EXPENSE AND THEN THE BOND CAPACITY.
I THINK THERE'S GREAT SUPPORT FOR NEW WEIGHT ROOMS, FOR SURE.
HAYS HIGH SCHOOL IS NUMBER ONE PRIORITY AS A WEIGHT ROOM.
JOHNSON HAS ALREADY OUTGROWN THEIR WEIGHT ROOM AS WELL.
SO I THINK WEIGHT ROOMS WOULD BE A GOOD ALTERNATIVE TO THAT SITUATION.
AND THAT'S HOW THEY ENDED UP TOGETHER IN THE FBC DISCUSSIONS.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING WE WOULD DEFINITELY HAVE AN APPETITE FOR.
SO CAN THEY BE SEPARATED? CAN WE? I MEAN, IS THAT.
YEAH. I MEAN, I THINK THIS IS WHERE THE DISCUSSION STARTED IN FBOC WAS WE TALKED ABOUT DOING THE PAVILIONS IN 25 AND DOING THE WEIGHT ROOMS NOW BECAUSE THE NEED WAS FOR THE WEIGHT ROOMS NOW.
BUT THEN AS IT BECAME A DESIGN THING, IT BECAME THAT THEY CAME TOGETHER THAT WAY AND THEN AT THE END THEY WERE REMOVED BASED ON COST. MR. BAILEY.
YEAH. AND SO, I MEAN, A WEIGHT ROOM AT 29 MILLION FOR THREE, LET'S JUST CALL IT 10 MILLION.
A WEIGHT ROOM. IS THAT AND I MEAN, IS THAT JUST THE GOING RATE? I MEAN, IS THAT WHAT WE'RE SEEING WITH COMPARABLE? WE GOT THERE WITH UNIT COST.
YES, SIR. JUST DID TRADITIONAL ESTIMATING IT'S SQUARE FOOTAGE.
IS IT OVER HERE? WE MOVED US. HEY, NATE, DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER? SO THERE YOU GO.
10 TO 14000 SQUARE FEET IS WHAT WE'RE.
AND THE CONCEPT THE WHOLE TIME WAS TO KIND OF DESIGN THEM TOGETHER.
SO EITHER ONE, YOU COULD DO EITHER ONE BEFORE THE OTHER OR AT THE SAME TIME.
OKAY. THANK YOU, MS. RUNKLE. ON THE WEIGHT ROOM, IN THIS NUMBER.
DOES THIS INCLUDE LIKE THE ACTUAL EQUIPMENT ALSO IN ADDITION TO THE PROJECT COST? OKAY, PERFECT. I AM IN SUPPORT OF THE DESIGN FEES FOR THE ADDITIONAL AT THE HIGH SCHOOLS.
WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO ME IS CLASSROOM SPACE AND KIDS HAVING A SPOT IN A CLASSROOM.
SO I AM ABSOLUTELY IN FAVOR FOR THAT.
I DO UNDERSTAND THAT SOMETHING'S GOING TO HAVE TO GO AWAY.
AS FAR AS THE WEIGHT ROOMS GO, I LIKE THAT IDEA DR.
I HAVE IF YOU'VE BEEN IN THE WEIGHT ROOMS. I JUST WAS IN ONE AND THEY'RE HAVING TO LIKE FUNNEL DIFFERENT GROUPS AROUND AND NOT ALL OF THE KIDS ARE GETTING ADEQUATE WEIGHT ROOM TIME BECAUSE THERE'S JUST NOT ENOUGH TIME IN THE DAY OR SPACE.
AND WE'VE HEARD THAT FROM COACHES AND STUDENTS AS WELL.
SO I THINK THAT THIS IS A GREAT COMPROMISE.
DR. PEREZ-GONZALEZ, DO YOU HAVE ANY OPINIONS OR THOUGHTS? OH, I AGREE WITH EVERYONE.
I LIKE BEING AHEAD OF THE GAME AS FAR AS THE ENROLLMENT, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE'RE SEEING FUTURE.
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CONSTRUCTION PROCESS OR THE FEES.HOWEVER IT IS IT IT WORKS BEFORE YOU START BUILDING THE BUILDING.
MAKING THAT TRADEOFF WITH THE WITH THE WEIGHT ROOMS NOW ENSURING ALL THREE SCHOOLS ARE GOING TO HAVE THESE WEIGHT ROOMS, CORRECT? YES, MA'AM. AND THEY'RE ALL THE SAME SIZE.
YES, MA'AM. THEY'RE ALL GETTING EVERYTHING.
THEY WILL BE ALL THE SAME SIZE AND GET EVERYTHING WHEN THEY'RE DESIGNED AND BUILT.
YES, MA'AM. MR. MCMANUS. MRS. OROSCO, FIRST AND FOREMOST, IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT COMPROMISING AND JUST SAYING, WELL, WE CAN TAKE OFF THE 52 AND WE'LL ADD THE 29 MILLION.
AND WHILE MR. MOFFITT SAID, YOU KNOW, WELL, WE CAN BUILD ONE OVER THE OTHER, THE FOLK VOTED ON THAT AS 50%.
SO THE WEIGHT ROOM WAS NOT A PRIORITY OF THE FBC.
AND THEN, LIKE MR. SEVERANCE POINTED OUT, WHAT HAPPENS NOW? YOU KNOW, WHERE DO THEY GO NOW? WE NEED TO HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, NOT JUST, OH, LET'S SWITCH THIS FOR THAT.
SO I AM OPPOSED TO THE WEIGHT ROOMS. I AM OPPOSED TO THESE PAVILIONS.
SINCE WE DO NOT HAVE A CONCRETE PLAN LIKE MR. MCMANUS POINTED OUT, TURF WAS SOMETHING I NEVER THOUGHT I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF.
BUT YOU ARE ARTICULATE, ARTICULATED IT SO WELL.
WRIGHT DID AN AMAZING JOB TALKING ABOUT WHY THERE REALLY IS A NEED.
IT'S NOT JUST A WANT ANYMORE AND RUSHING INTO THIS OH WAIT, ROOM OVER PAVILION JUST SO WE CAN GET SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T JIBE WITH ME, THAT DOES NOT FLY WITH ME.
I WANT THE FOLK TO LOOK AT IT AND PLAN IT OUT.
IT IS NOT SOMETHING WE NEED TO RUSH INTO AND I AM IN FAVOR OF THE DESIGN FEES.
I FEEL LIKE WE'RE JUST GOING WE'RE GOING BACK AROUND.
RIGHT. SO IF WE DIDN'T DO THE PAVILIONS BUT WANT TO DO THE WEIGHT ROOMS, HAVE YOU LOOKED AT OPTIONS FOR THAT? WITHOUT THE WEIGHT, WITHOUT THE PAVILIONS, LIKE ATTACHED TO THE SCHOOL SOMEWHERE? NO, SIR. BUT WE I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY WE COULD, BUT THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IS AS THEY'RE DESIGNED TO DATE.
SO, I MEAN, I THINK IT'S A GOOD COMPROMISE DR.
WRIGHT. BUT I JUST DON'T KNOW.
AND IF WE'RE NOT PREPARED FOR IT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT PREPARED FOR IT.
I MEAN, IT'S IT'S YOU KNOW, THEY CAN ALSO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS WITH THEIR THE WAY THEY VOTE.
AS FAR AS THE $9 MILLION, I MEAN, WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT ALL THE ITEMS ON THIS LIST.
I MEAN, IF I HAD TO, LIKE, YOU KNOW, DO SOME SOME EBB AND FLOW HERE, LIKE THE LEHMAN HIGH SCHOOL STORAGE AND GROUNDS BUILDING, I STILL FEEL LIKE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S NEEDED.
I JUST BOUGHT A STORAGE UNIT AND A USED CONTAINER FOR SOME POLY FURNITURE AT WORK FOR $7,500.
I MEAN, I WOULD SAY CAN WE BUY THREE STORAGE CONTAINERS FOR 8000 APIECE AND PUT THEM IN THAT LOWER PASTURE UNTIL AND USE THEM NOW, BUT I MEAN, BUT THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, LIKE WAY LESS THAN 2.8 MILLION.
AND THEN ON ADAPTIVE PLAYGROUNDS, I'M FOR THAT I LIKE I LIKE THE ADAPTIVE PLAYGROUND AS A PHILOSOPHY BUT I ALSO FEEL LIKE UNTIL WE GET A STANDARDIZATION OF WHAT ELEMENTS SHOULD BE INCLUDED AT ALL ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, EVERY BOND, WE COME AND GO, WELL, LET'S ADD BECAUSE WE JUST BUILT A NEW SCHOOL, SO WE NEED TO GO IN TO ADD THE NEW SCHOOL ELEMENTS TO ALL THE SCHOOLS AT ONE TIME WHERE I FEEL LIKE AS WE'RE GOING TO RENOVATE TOM GREEN, KYLE ELEMENTARY, YOU KNOW, EVENTUALLY FUENTES AND HEMPHILL, THAT THOSE CAN BE ADDED ONTO THE SCHEDULE OF OUR TEN YEAR PLAN FOR ADDING ADAPTIVE PLAYGROUNDS AS WE'RE GOING TO BE ON THOSE CAMPUSES DOWN THE ROAD.
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AND THEN THE THIRD THING IS I WOULD ONLY BUY 25 BUSSES.I WOULDN'T BUY 50. I THINK WE SHOULD BUY SOME SORT OF BUSSES WITH EVERY BOND, BUT I'M PRETTY SURE WE HAVEN'T WE STILL HAVEN'T FULFILLED PURCHASE ORDERS FOR BUSSES ON THE LAST BOND. SO CALL THAT 25 BUSSES AND THAT'S $9 MILLION THAT WE COULD THEN PUT DESIGN FEES FOR THE EXPANSIONS OF THE TWO HIGH SCHOOLS AND SOMEWHAT LEAVE THIS GENERALLY AS IT SITS TODAY BUT JUST MOVE IT AROUND IN DIFFERENT PROPS.
AND THE SECOND THING I'LL SAY IS PROJECTS THAT ARE TIED TOGETHER, THE LEHMAN HIGH SCHOOL RENOVATION FOR THE MARIACHI SPACE, WHICH IS DESPERATELY NEEDED, IS PREDICATED ON THE NEW AUDITORIUM AT LEHMAN.
SO THOSE PROJECTS ARE DEFINITELY TIED TOGETHER.
SO MAKE SURE WHATEVER WE'RE DOING, YOU KNOW.
THEY'RE THE SAME PROBLEM. THEY'VE GOT TO BE IN THE SAME THE SAME SPOT.
SO RIGHT NOW I'M NOT OPPOSED TO FOUR PROPS, BUT IF WE TAKE THESE ITEMS OFF, I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED FOUR, WE MIGHT JUST NEED THREE.
SO AT SOME POINT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO I MEAN, WE CAN DISCUSS THE ITEMS THAT I SUGGESTED ABOUT TALKING ADAPTIVE PLAYGROUNDS, THE STORAGE BUILDING AND THEN THE BUSSES, AND THEN WE COULD TALK ABOUT AND GET Y'ALL'S OPINION ON THAT AND THEN WE CAN START PUTTING THIS STUFF IN ACTUAL BUCKETS.
OKAY. SO MR. SEVERANCE HAS AN IDEA ABOUT KEEPING THE PAVILIONS AND FINDING THE $9 MILLION BY REMOVING THE STORAGE FACILITY AT LEHMAN, THE ADAPTIVE PLAYGROUNDS, AND REDUCING THE BUS PURCHASES TO 25 BUSSES INSTEAD OF 50.
FBOC PUT, YOU KNOW, 70 TO 72%.
I MEAN, THEY'VE ALREADY KIND OF GIVEN US A LITTLE BIT OF INDICATION OF THEIR SUPPORT FOR THAT.
BUT IF WE NEEDED TO, IF WE WANTED TO, IF WE NEEDED TO LEAVE IT AND STILL NEEDED TO FIND SOME MONEY TO DO THE DESIGN WORK FOR THE HIGH SCHOOLS, THEN THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION TO DO THAT. OKAY, MS. RUNKLE, I SAW YOUR HAND.
BUT I ALSO WANTED TO SAY THAT THE WEIGHT ROOMS WHAT I HEARD WAS THAT THE CONVERSATION STARTED WITH THE WEIGHT ROOMS AND THE PAVILIONS WERE BUILT OFF OF THE CONVERSATION WITH THE WEIGHT ROOMS. RIGHT. SO COACH MOFFIT, COME YEAH, COME TO THE MIC, BECAUSE I'VE HEARD ABOUT WEIGHT ROOMS FROM COACH GOAD FOR A LONG TIME.
SO DO YOU WANT TO TALK TO US ABOUT WHY THESE THINGS ARE TIED? CAN THEY BE BUILT SEPARATELY AND THEN BE BUILT TOGETHER LATER? SURE. THEY WERE TIED FROM A DESIGN PERSPECTIVE BY THE ENGINEERS IN TERMS OF COST EFFECTIVENESS TO ADD THE SPACE.
BUT HE RECOMMENDED THAT IT WOULD BE CHEAPER TO ATTACH IT TO THE OUTDOOR PAVILION.
AND THE COST OF THE BUILDING OF BOTH OF THOSE WERE TIED TOGETHER BY THE DESIGN.
KNOWING THAT ALL THREE CAMPUSES NEEDED AND REQUESTED A NEW WEIGHT ROOM.
AS WE EVOLVED THE CONVERSATION, IT ALL BECAME ABOUT MORE SPACE.
AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, ALL OF THIS IS ABOUT US HAVING MORE EFFECTIVE SPACE.
AND FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, I'VE HEARD ALL OF YOU SAY THIS TONIGHT.
THAT'S OUR CLASSROOM SPACE, RIGHT? AND FROM THAT'S HOW IT EVOLVED IN THE FOLK CONVERSATIONS, WAS THAT WE NEEDED MORE SPACE.
WE NEEDED MORE SPACE FOR FINE ARTS TO HAVE A PLACE TO REHEARSE AND HAVE THEIR PRACTICES.
AND SO IT ALL JUST KIND OF EVOLVED FROM A DESIGN PERSPECTIVE THROUGHOUT THE CONVERSATION OF BOTH.
DID I SAY THAT? RIGHT, MR. BEDWELL. OKAY, WELL, WE WE WE NEED TO MAKE SOME DECISIONS.
SO DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE THOUGHTS ABOUT REMOVING ADAPTIVE PLAYGROUNDS, REDUCING THE BUS PURCHASES? MR. RUNKLE, I DO AGREE WITH THE BUSSES.
SO I AM DEFINITELY IN FAVOR OF REDUCING THAT NUMBER.
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ANYBODY. MR. MCMANUS, I APPRECIATE THE SENTIMENT OF LIKE, PUTTING THINGS OUT THERE AND LETTING THE VOTERS DECIDE.I'M VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF THAT, BUT I WOULD I DON'T KNOW.
AND THIS IS GOING TO BE ONE OF THOSE.
AND I WORRY THAT IF WE SAY, WELL, LET'S JUST INCLUDE IT AND LET THE VOTERS DECIDE.
IT COULD VERY WELL BE NO AND SABOTAGE EVERYTHING ELSE ON ON THAT PROP.
WE'RE STILL NOT AT THE BOND NUMBER WE NEED TO BE.
ARE YOU SAYING WEIGHT ROOMS BE ITS OWN PROP? I COULD GET BEHIND WHAT MR. SEVERANCE IS TALKING ABOUT AS FAR ESPECIALLY THE BUSSES FOR SURE.
AND WE'RE WE'RE PIECEMEALING SOME THINGS TOGETHER.
I GET IT. THE OLDER SCHOOLS NEED THINGS.
BUT WE CAN'T KEEP JUST EVERY BOND GO, OH, THIS SCHOOL NEEDS THIS OR THIS SCHOOL NEEDS THAT.
I JUST THINK THAT THAT TEN YEAR PLAN NEEDS TO INCLUDE AND TO MR. SEVERANCE POINT, COULD ADAPTIVE PLAYGROUNDS BE PART OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR IN THIS $56 MILLION AND $30 MILLION PROJECTS THAT WE'RE DOING AT THESE FOUR SCHOOLS? SO BEGINNING WITH ELEMENTARY 17 AS A PREREQUISITE TO CONSTRUCTION, HUCKABY IS GOING TO BE DEVELOPING AND Y'ALL WILL BE CONSIDERING AND HOPEFULLY APPROVING AN AD SPEC FOR ELEMENTARY SHOULD THE JOHNSON HIGH SCHOOL ACADEMIC EDITION AND NOW THESE OTHERS COME TO FRUITION. THEY WERE ALSO GOING TO START AS A PREREQUISITE TO DESIGN A CONSTRUCTION, DO THE ADD SPEC FOR HIGH SCHOOL AS WELL.
SO THAT'S TO YOUR POINT ABOUT HAVING A COMPREHENSIVE WHAT'S IN ONE OF OUR SCHOOLS.
AND SO WE HEARD THAT WE'VE HEARD THAT FROM THE COMMITTEE MULTIPLE TIMES.
YOU KNOW, WHAT'S IN A SCHOOL? WHAT WHAT IS OUR WHAT DO OUR SCHOOLS LOOK LIKE? AND SO WE'VE HEARD YOU AND THAT'S A REQUIREMENT.
SO THEN ARE WE SPENDING MONEY A LITTLE AHEAD OF WHEN WE SHOULD BE? FOR TOM GREEN KYLE AND THESE DESIGN FEES WITHOUT NECESSARILY HAVING SETTLED ON WHAT THAT ADDS SPEC IS FOR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS. I DON'T WANT TO APPROVE THIS MONEY AND WE GO DO SOME STUFF THAT THEN WE COME BACK AND GO, IT DIDN'T MEAN IT.
IT'S ON THESE PROPOSALS BEFORE THE AS A PREREQUISITE TO THE DESIGN.
OKAY. YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT, I'M TRACKING YOU.
OKAY. MY LAST THING IS ON THE WEIGHT ROOMS. I SEEM TO RECALL A CONVERSATION WE HAD ONE WEEK WHERE THE FBO FELT LIKE THOSE CAME TO THEM AT THE VERY LAST MINUTE.
AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S.
I'M NOT SURE I REMEMBER EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED.
BUT IT ONLY 50% SUPPORT OR WHATEVER THAT NUMBER WAS.
YES, SIR, I CAN SPEAK TO THAT.
THE WEIGHT ROOMS WERE ON THE 2025 BOND PROPOSAL AND THE THE LAST MEETING WHEN WE WERE DELIBERATING, ONE OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS BROUGHT THAT FORWARD.
AND I IF I REMEMBER, THERE WAS A CONSENSUS BUILT AROUND THAT TO TO ADD THEM AT THAT LAST AT THAT LAST MEETING BECAUSE OF THE DESIGN SYNERGY AND THE CONSTRUCTION, YOU KNOW, SYNERGY TOGETHER, BUILDING THEM TOGETHER.
SO YOU LIKE MY WORD, YOU LIKE SYNERGY.
CONSENSUS FOR WHICH PART? CONSENSUS TO GO AHEAD AND PUT THE WEIGHT ROOMS ON THIS ON THIS BOND AND.
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SO DOES 50% DOESN'T SOUND LIKE DOESN'T FEEL VERY CONSENSUS LIKE TO ME.MAYBE I'M MISUNDERSTANDING WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
AND I APOLOGIZE FOR BEING DENSE IF I AM.
I WOULD NOT BE IN FAVOR OF ADDING THE WEIGHT ROOMS IN AT THIS TIME.
AND I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHAT EITHER OF THOSE THAT THAT'S BEEN DONE.
I'M ALL ABOUT THE NEED AND PUTTING THESE THINGS IN.
BUT I MEAN, WE'VE WE HAVE TO BE, I THINK, CAREFUL WITH WHAT WE'RE BUILDING AND THOROUGH IN OUR DESIGN AND NOT JUST PUTTING OUR HAND UP AT A MEETING AND GOING, WELL, WHAT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WEIGHT ROOMS? I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MAKES ME A LITTLE NERVOUS.
MISS BEDWELL, YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT HOW THAT WENT DOWN? AND THE SYNERGY BETWEEN THE PAVILIONS AND THE WEIGHT ROOMS. AND THEN WE'LL MAKE JASON TELL US WHY HE MADE THEM SO EXPENSIVE.
IT'S HARD. WE'VE BEEN DOING MONTHS OF CONVERSATION ABOUT A LOT OF THESE TOPICS, AND IT'S THIS LIST DOESN'T REALLY QUITE CONVEY A LOT OF THAT CONVERSATION.
SO. WEIGHT ROOMS HAS ALWAYS BEEN VERY IMPORTANT.
THE REASON I THINK YOU'RE SEEING IT KIND OF STRANGE ON HERE IS THAT THE WEIGHT ROOMS COMBINED WITH THE MULTIPURPOSE PAVILION WERE PRICEY ENOUGH THAT WE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT DOING IT IN PHASES.
I MEAN, YOU GUYS HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS MANY TIMES.
THEY DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH SPACE RIGHT NOW.
THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH SPACE AT THIS MOMENT.
THAT IS THAT'S FINE ARTS AND ATHLETICS.
SO THAT IS WHY THE PAVILIONS GOT PUSHED FORWARD VERSUS WEIGHT ROOMS. I'M GOING TO STRONGLY WARN YOU AGAINST.
WE ALREADY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH ROOM FOR SOME OF THE EXTRACURRICULARS WE'RE DOING, LIKE BY A LOT.
CAN I TALK ABOUT TOM GREEN AND KYLE? SO YOU GUYS ARE KIND OF FINDING BITS AND PIECES OF IT.
WOW THEY MIGHT ACTUALLY NEED MORE SPACE AS WELL.
AND SO WE ARE VERY COGNIZANT OF IN THE PAST THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF LET'S HURRY AND BUILD SOMETHING.
BUT OH, WHOOPS, NOW I GOT TO GO BACK AND.
WASTING MONEY AND TIME AND ALL THAT.
SO THE I THINK WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW IS THERE'S SOME MONEY FOR URGENT BRICKS FALLING OFF OF WALLS OR THAT SORT OF THING.
SO THERE'S MONEY IN THERE FOR THAT.
THEN THERE'S DESIGN FEES TO TALK ABOUT.
THE BIGGER, LONGER LIST OF WE NEED TO MOVE AN OLD OFFICE TO THIS OTHER PLACE AND ALL OF THAT, BUT THAT IT GETS COMBINED WITH THE CONVERSATION OF DOES IT NEED MORE CLASSROOM SPACE AND WHERE DOES THAT ALL GO TO MAKE IT MORE COHESIVE AND EFFICIENT? COMBINED WITH THE CONVERSATION THAT WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE ROUNDS OF THAT THOSE TWO CAMPUSES WOULD BE OUR FIRST SHOT AT.
REALLY GOING BACK AND RENOVATING OLDER CAMPUSES AT THE SAME TIME THAT WE'RE BUILDING NEW AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO THAT CORRECTLY AND FAIRLY SO THAT WE TAKE THE TIME TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS A COMPREHENSIVE STANDARD LIST OF THIS IS WHAT EVERY ELEMENTARY SCHOOL SHOULD HAVE.
AND THEN THAT WOULD ALSO APPLY TO MIDDLE SCHOOL AND HIGH SCHOOL DOWN THE ROAD.
SO THAT'S WHY SOME OF THAT'S KIND OF GETTING PULLED APART AND MOVED.
KNOW THAT? THAT'S HELPFUL MS. BEDWELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
WE DO CARE A LOT ABOUT WEIGHT ROOMS, BUT THAT'S HOW THAT HAPPENED.
OKAY. LET ME ADD ONE MORE THING.
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SO THE REASON THAT THAT ONLY GOT 50% ON THIS LIST IS NOT BECAUSE FBOC ONLY AGREES 50% OF US WANT THEM.THAT ADDITION AT THE END OF THE MEETING WAS KNOWING THAT WE CANNOT AFFORD THEM ON THIS BOND.
SO THE IDEA WAS WE'RE GOING TO PUT IT ON THERE AND THEN WE'LL LET THE BOARD FIGURE THAT OUT.
IT'S SORT OF HOW THAT MOVED FORWARD.
AND SO ONLY 50% OF FBOC WAS EXCITED ABOUT IT AT THAT POINT.
WELL, AND HERE WE ARE TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT.
OKAY, SO BACK TO ADAPTIVE PLAYGROUNDS.
I DON'T FEEL REAL GOOD ABOUT REMOVING THOSE.
AND WE'RE STARTING TO DO THAT WITH OUR SCHOOLS.
AND I COULD SEE US HAVING A LONGER TERM PLAN TO MAYBE ADDRESS THOSE CAMPUSES THAT HAVE THE HIGHEST NEED FOR THAT AND MAYBE NOT ALL AT ONCE IN THE 2.4.
THE STORAGE, I LIKE MR. SEVERANCE'S IDEA.
IF THAT'S A POSSIBILITY, I'M SURE HE CAN HAVE A HOOK UP FOR CONTAINER STORAGE.
I THINK THAT COULD COME OUT OF A GENERAL FUND.
WE HAVE ONE AT JOHNSON FOR BAND STUFF.
BAND STORAGE, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE USING IS SOME KIND OF CONTAINER AND THEN THE BUSSES AND THEN THAT GETS US TO BACK TO BEING ABLE TO DO THESE PAVILIONS.
I JUST HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF CONSTERNATION ABOUT THE ADAPTIVE PLAYGROUNDS.
MS. RUNKLE, YOU HAD YOUR HAND UP? YES, I DO, TOO.
CAN YOU TALK TO US ABOUT WHO BROUGHT THIS TO YOU? I MEAN, I KNOW WE DID IT AT SUNFIELD.
EVERYONE HAS I MEAN, I'VE HEARD ABOUT IT.
SO CAN YOU TALK TO US ABOUT LIKE THE OTHER CAMPUSES WHERE THERE'S A HIGHER NEED AT SOME OF THESE CAMPUSES? TALK TO US ABOUT THAT. YEAH, THERE, HER NAME ESCAPES ME, I APOLOGIZE, BUT WE ACTUALLY HAD ONE OF THE SPECIAL ED STAFF COME AND SHOW US KIND OF WHAT THE STATE OF THE ART WAS FOR ADAPTIVE PLAYGROUNDS.
THANK YOU. I AM ALL FOR THIS, AND I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF TAKING THIS OFF OF THIS BOND PACKAGE.
OKAY, SO WE GOT TO FIND THE POTENTIALLY 2.4 MILLION.
WHAT MAX, WHAT ABOUT THIS DRIVE LOOP AT THE BACKSIDE OF CARPENTER? WELL, I'M CONFUSED. IT SAYS DRIVE LOOP AND DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS AT DMS. BUT THEN IN THE DESCRIPTION, IT SAYS DRIVE LOOP AT THE REAR OF CAMPUS AT CARPENTER HILL.
YEAH. CARPENTER HILL LANE, CARPENTER HILL DRIVE.
OH, CARPENTER HILL DRIVE, NOT OKAY.
SO, YES SIR, THAT'S SO WHY DO WE NEED THAT? IT'S A IT'S AN ADDITIONAL LOOP JUST FOR FOR TRAFFIC CONTROL.
I DON'T HAVE A KID THERE, SO I'M ASKING BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW.
CARPENTER HILL DIDN'T EXIST WHEN WE DID THE INITIAL DESIGN FOR DAHLSTROM.
AND SO THAT'S WHY IT WASN'T INCLUDED.
THAT FEELS TO ME LIKE SOMETHING THAT COULD WAIT.
MR. SEVERANCE. YEAH, I FEEL LIKE I'VE BEEN I HAVE TWO KIDS GO THRU THAT SCHOOL AND THAT TRAFFIC IS UNBEARABLE ON TO PICK UP A KIDDO AT THAT SCHOOL.
I MEAN, WE DID SOME WALKING OUT THERE, MY WIFE AND I, AND WE GO ON THE [INAUDIBLE] AND PEOPLE ARE WAITING ON THAT BACK DRIVE GOING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO GET THEIR KID PICK UP FROM SCHOOL, BECAUSE THE LOOP THAT THEY'VE GOT ONLY HOLDS LIKE 15 CARS FOR PICKUP.
SO I BELIEVE THAT THIS THIS LOOP AT DAHLSTROM IS VERY MUCH NEEDED JUST TO GET THE TRAFFIC OUT
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OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND INTO A LOOP, A STACKING LOOP, BASICALLY A DOUBLE STACKING LOOP TO PULL IN TO PICK UP KIDS RIGHT.I MEAN, I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S A DOUBLE STACKING RATE.
IT HOLDS MORE THAN THE TEN CARS.
YEAH I MEAN IT'S THE TRAFFIC AT DISMISSAL AND DROP OFF IS PRETTY PRETTY CRAZY ESPECIALLY WITH THAT NEW ADDITION ON THAT BACKSIDE TO JUST KIND OF HELP WITH THE EBB AND FLOW OF THE TRAFFIC FLOW FOR THOSE TWO TIMES AROUND THE DAY.
SO, MAX, DID THE DEVELOPER HELP US PAY FOR THAT BERM SINCE THEY SENT THE WATER OUR WAY? NO, SIR. WE WERE ABLE TO USE SOME OF THE SPOILS OUT OF SOME OTHER PROJECTS AND HAVE THOSE DUMPED THERE.
AND THEN OUR GUYS DID THE WORK.
THE DEVELOPER IS WORKING WITH US THOUGH TO MITIGATE.
OKAY. SO WE HAVE SOME OPTIONS.
AND DR. WRIGHT JUST REMINDED ME THAT THE WEIGHT ROOMS AND THE PAVILIONS.
ONE WAS GOING TO BE IN ONE BOND.
ONE WAS GOING TO BE IN ANOTHER BOND.
THERE'S 14,000 SQUARE FEET OF SPACE FOR THE FOR THE WEIGHT ROOMS. SO THAT'S SOMETHING.
OBVIOUSLY, THE PAVILIONS ARE LARGER, BIGGER SPACE.
KOURTNEY WAS ON BOARD WITH THE WEIGHT ROOM SWITCH AS DR.
THAT'S FOUR. SO TECHNICALLY WE HAVE CONSENSUS.
YEAH, THAT'S NOT CONSENSUS, YOU'RE RIGHT.
BUT MR. MCMANUS WASN'T A FAN OF THAT.
OR WE CAN REMOVE IT ALL TOGETHER AND BE $52 MILLION LIGHTER.
I DEFINITELY WANT TO CUT THE BUSSES.
THE BUSSES HAS ALWAYS BEEN SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE CUT.
YES, MA'AM. BUT IT ALWAYS HAPPENS.
SO WE CANNOT PURCHASE ALL THOSE BUSSES.
SO THAT'S 3750, RIGHT, RIGHT THERE.
OF COURSE, I DON'T WANT TO DO BOTH THE WEIGHT AND THE PAVILION AT THE SAME TIME.
HOWEVER, IF ANYTHING, I WOULD DEFINITELY DO, AND IT SOUNDS WEIRD, BUT I WOULD RATHER DO THE PAVILION AT 52 AS A STANDALONE INSTEAD OF THE WEIGHT ROOM, BECAUSE THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WILL GIVE THAT EXTRA SPACE AND PEOPLE CAN VOTE ON IT AS A STANDALONE.
THAT WOULD BE OUR FOURTH PROP AND IT WOULD BE A STANDALONE.
SO WE WOULD JUST NEED TO FIND A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY THAT WE CAN CUT OR WHAT DOES THAT BRING US TO? IF WE WERE TO SO 363.
SO IT ACTUALLY WOULD BRING US DOWN TO 360.
RIGHT. RIGHT. SO IT WOULD BE 3.75.
YEAH. AND WE DIDN'T ADD ANYTHING ELSE.
THIS CAN BE USED BY MULTIPLE STUDENTS.
SO I'D RATHER GO THAT WAY WITH A FOURTH PROP FOR PAVILION.
STAND ALONE AND NO HARM, NO FOUL.
AND THEN WE CAN DO THAT WEIGHT ROOM LATER AS A PHASE IN AS WAS SUGGESTED.
SO WE CUT BUSSES IN HALF, DON'T DO ANYTHING ELSE.
AND THEN PROP FOUR IS OUR MULTIPURPOSE PAVILIONS.
MR. VELA. MS. OROSCO, THANK YOU FOR MENTIONING THAT.
ON AVERAGE, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT PROJECT, BUT WHAT HAS BEEN THE PERCENTAGE COST INCREASE YEAR OVER YEAR FOR ANY PROJECT THAT WE DO THE ESCALATION, RIGHT? YES, SIR. SO DURING THE PROCESS, OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, IT'S RANGED FROM ONE HALF A PERCENT PER MONTH, ALL THE WAY UP TO 1% PER MONTH.
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AND MOST OF OUR CALCULATIONS HAVE A VARIATION.SO MANY MONTHS AT 1% AND THEN IT KIND OF TAPERS OFF.
JASON, DO YOU HAVE THE EXACT ESCALATION SCHEDULE THAT WE'RE APPLYING? IT'S A I THINK IT'S 1% FOR THE NEXT.
GO AHEAD. 1% A MONTH FOR THE FOR ONE YEAR OUT FROM NOW.
SO IN A ONE YEAR PERIOD, I MEAN, IT'S SAFE TO SAY THAT IT'S A 12% RISE IN COST FOR THE FIRST YEAR AND THEN THE SECOND YEAR, THE SECOND YEAR GOES TO THREE QUARTERS PERCENT PER MONTH AND THEN HALF A PERCENT PER MONTH.
RIGHT. FOR THE FOR THE PAVILIONS OR 12% OF.
IF WE WERE TO, YOU KNOW, BASE IT ON COSTS THAT WE HAVE NOW OR ESTIMATES THAT WE HAVE NOW, WHAT'S THE COST SAVINGS? I GUESS IF WE WERE TO KEEP THE WEIGHT ROOM, AS YOU KNOW, ANOTHER TWO YEARS FROM NOW FOR BOND PURPOSES, THE WAY WE DO OUR TAXES, WE DO WHAT WE CALL COMPOUNDING, WHICH MEANS THAT IF IT'S A 1% A MONTH.
IT'S 1% A MONTH FOR HOWEVER MUCH MONEY YOU SPENT AT THAT POINT.
RIGHT. SO IT'S NOT YOU CAN'T JUST TAKE THAT NUMBER AND ADD 12% FOR ONE YEAR.
YOU HAVE TO COMPOUND IT. WE DO IT MONTHLY.
SURE. SOME PEOPLE DO IT QUARTERLY, SOME PEOPLE DO IT WEEKLY.
SO A $10 MILLION WEIGHT ROOM NOW IN 2023, WHAT IS IT, $10 MILLION? WHAT'S THAT GOING TO COST IN 2025 TO BUILD IS WHAT I'M ASKING FOR 2020.
I HAVE A VERY COMPLICATED SPREADSHEET THAT I'D HAVE TO PLUG IT IN AND TELL YOU THAT BALLPARK.
WHAT'S WHAT'S THE WEIGHT ROOM NUMBER? NATE ON 2025, WE HAD THAT NUMBER ESCALATED RIGHT NOW 29 MILLION RIGHT NOW.
YEAH, RIGHT. YOU'RE YOU WANT US TO BACK THAT OUT SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT IT IS? YEAH. OKAY. YEAH.
THE CURRENT YOU WROTE IN THE CURRENT CONSTRUCTION COST OF IT.
WE ALL LIKE PUBLIC MATH, WHOLE TYPE.
SO. SO THAT 29 MILLION IN TODAY'S DOLLARS RIGHT NOW WE'RE ESTIMATING THAT $14.7 MILLION.
THE COST IS FROM MEMORY, IT'S LIKE ONE FOR ESCALATING IT TO 148 A BUS BASED ON OUR LAST PURCHASES.
HOW MANY BUSSES HAVE WE NOT PURCHASED THAT WE ALREADY APPROVED ON PREVIOUS BONDS? ALL ALL BUSSES POS HAVE BEEN LET.
SO WE'VE WE'VE TRIED TO PURCHASE ALL BUSSES FOR THE BUSSES FORWARD.
HOW MANY BUSSES ARE LIKE NOT IN SERVICE BECAUSE OF MAINTENANCE OR BECAUSE WE JUST DON'T HAVE THOSE NUMBER OF ROUTES? I MEAN, WHAT, HOW MANY BUSSES DO WE HAVE SPARES DO WE HAVE? IS THERE? LAST TIME I CHECKED, IT WAS IN THAT 10% RANGE.
OKAY. AND WHAT'S OUR NORMAL TARGET WITH ME RIGHT NOW? I CAN GET YOU HOW MANY SPARES? WHAT'S OUR WHAT'S OUR DO WE HAVE? LIKE I KNOW I'D HAVE A 20% SPARE RATIO THAT I GOT TO MAINTAIN, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT I CAN FIND THAT OUT FOR YOU.
WHAT OUR, WHAT OUR SPARE RATIO IS RIGHT NOW.
OKAY. I FEEL LIKE WE'RE GOING THE WRONG WAY WITH WHAT I'M ABOUT TO SAY.
LIKE, IF THE WEIGHT ROOMS ARE ONLY 17 MILLION AND THEY'RE TIED TO THE PAVILIONS.
14 MILLION AND OH, EACH, THEN HOW IS THAT MORE THAN WHAT THEY ARE? FOR ALL THREE IN FUTURE.
THEY SAY $29 MILLION ON OUR PAPER, MR. CLEAVER. SO CAN YOU CAN, CAN YOU CLEAN? CAN YOU CLARIFY THE CONFUSION? WE HAVE 29 MILLION ON OUR PAPER FOR WEIGHT ROOMS AT ALL THREE HIGH SCHOOL WE HEARD A FIGURE OF 14 MILLION THROWN OUT.
WHAT DOES THAT REPRESENT? YEAH, WHAT IS THE CONSTRUCTION COST? ONLY IN TODAY'S DOLLARS FOR ALL THREE.
BUT THAT'S CONSTRUCTION COST ONLY.
SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE A SOFT FF&E NEED.
I MEAN. YEAH, FFA LIKE THE WEIGHTS ARE A BIG CHUNK.
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JASON, DON'T TEASE US WITH THAT NUMBER.WE GOT ALL EXCITED. WE HAD THIS, I'LL JUST SAY SO I'M JUST SAYING LIKE 14 MILLION.
I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT WOULD IT BE LIKE DO WHAT'S THE CALCULATION? IT'S GOING TO BE FORMULA DRIVEN.
SO IS THAT 20 MILLION? WHAT'S WHAT'S THE NUMBER TO DO THAT? BECAUSE I HEAR I HEAR FROM JESUS AND THE FOLK THAT THE WEIGHT ROOMS ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT.
HAYS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING.
SO YOU ASK HAYS HIGH SCHOOL IF THEY WANT A MULTIPURPOSE PAVILION OR A WEIGHT ROOM, AND I BET YOU THEY'RE GOING TO SAY A WAY THEY'D RATHER HAVE A WEIGHT ROOM, BUT I'M JUST SAYING AT THIS POINT, WHY NOT JUST ADD THE WEIGHT ROOMS TO THE PAVILIONS AND AS THEIR OWN PROP AND THEY'LL LET THOSE TWO RIDE TOGETHER, EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY FOR THAT AND WE WANT TO ADD AND WE'RE WE DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY FOR THAT.
MR. SAVOY, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? OH, I'M JUST THIS IS MY SHIFT AT THE PODIUM.
I WAS GOING TO SAY YOU COULD DO THE ROOMS. OKAY. AND ALSO BACK TO MR. ROSCOE'S IDEA. I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT YOU ARE PROPOSING TO TAKE OFF THE DESIGN FEES FOR HIGH SCHOOL.
FOR THAT LAYMAN. WELL, YOU SAID NOT TO ADD ANYTHING.
BUT IF YOU ADD THE 8.7 PRESIDENT.
RIGHT. YOU NEED TO INFER WHAT I'M SAYING BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WHAT I SAID.
WELL, YOU SAID WE'RE NOT ADDING ANYTHING.
OR WHERE'S THE REPLAY? THAT IS AN ADDITION.
I'M ALREADY INCLUDING IT AS THE PLAN.
THAT'S THE WHOLE REASON WE GOT TO FIND.
AND WHAT IS THE TOTAL NUMBER? MR. MCMANUS, YOU GOT THE TOTAL NUMBER.
MAY I ADD ONE? SO THE 8.7 MILLION FEE THAT I QUOTED, THAT IS THE FEE ALL THE WAY THROUGH CONSTRUCTION.
SO IF WE WERE TO INCLUDE THE JUST MAKE IT AN INITIAL FEES, WE COULD CUT THAT BACK TO SAY 55% OF THAT TO SAY 4.7 MIL AND THEN PICK UP THE BALANCE OF THE DESIGN FEES WHEN WE GO FOR THE CONSTRUCTION.
IF THAT IF THAT WOULD HELP BECAUSE THAT WOULD WE STILL BE ABLE TO BE SHOVEL READY? YES. 2026 WE COULD POTENTIALLY WE MIGHT WE COULD DO MAYBE ONE OF TWO THINGS AT THAT TIME.
WHAT DO WE THINK ABOUT THAT? BECAUSE 4.7 YOU SAID 4.7, FOUR POINT WOULD GET US ROUGHLY THROUGH DESIGN DEVELOPMENT, MAYBE 50% DD AND A LITTLE HEAVIER ON THE CIVIL TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN GET A PERMIT.
BECAUSE I THINK I MAYBE CHECK MY MATH, MR. MCMANUS BUT IF WE REMOVE THE STORAGE FACILITY AND THE BUSSES, WE CAN GET THERE WITH INITIAL DESIGN FEES.
YEAH, BUT MY MATH PROBABLY NOT THE BEST, SO SOMEONE NEEDS TO CHECK THAT.
YEAH, THAT'S 4.7 MILLION FOR INITIAL DESIGN.
AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A WE HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE PLAN FOR THE STORAGE.
WE DON'T NOT CARE ABOUT THE STORAGE, BUT WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT A DIFFERENT PLAN FOR THAT.
BYRON IS GETTING HIS CON EX BOXES.
WOULD YOU PAY 7500 EVEN ORDERED.
30 GRAND? WE NEED TO PUT IN MS. OROSCO. OKAY, SO I'M GOING TO BRING UP ANOTHER ITEM HERE.
TALKING ABOUT FURNITURE REPLACEMENTS MAX CLEAVER.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES I ASKED THIS QUESTION ABOUT THE CAFETERIA TABLES.
WHEN YOU PROPOSE JUST TO BUY TOM GREEN TABLES AND YOU SWORE UP AND DOWN THAT WHO WAS IT, BRANDON, THAT MR. PORTER WENT AND CHECKED ALL THE TABLES? WE DON'T NEED ANY REPLACEMENTS.
BECAUSE I MADE A HUGE POINT ABOUT CAFETERIA TABLES.
THEY PROBABLY HAVE ANOTHER FIVE YEARS, TEN YEARS TO THE TABLES, BUT NOW WE HAVE 819,000 FOR CAFETERIA TABLES THAT YOU SWORE UP AND DOWN AND MR. PORTER SWORE UP AND DOWN WE DIDN'T NEED.
JOSH I DON'T REALLY REMEMBER IT THAT WAY.
I REMEMBER WHEN YOU.. OH MY, OK.
RICK REPORTED BACK THAT WE NEEDED 819,000 WORTH OF TABLES ABOUT SIX OR EIGHT MONTHS AGO.
HOW ABOUT GENERAL FUND? WHAT GENERAL FUND? YEAH. SO GET THAT OUT OF GENERAL FUND.
I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE IN THERE.
ESPECIALLY SINCE WE DON'T NEED IT.
I NEVER REPORTED OUT THAT WE DIDN'T NEED ANY MORE TABLES.
I MADE A SPREADSHEET AND PROVIDED IT TO Y'ALL FOR REAL.
I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF THIS BEING IN BOND SAVINGS.
YES. AND GOING BACK TO THE FBOC, IF WE COULD GET SOME BOND SAVINGS.
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MS. RUNKLE, YOU HAVE A QUESTION? AS I RECALL, ISN'T THAT HOW WE FUNDED THE LAST TABLES WHEN WE WERE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION? I THINK SO. I THINK IT WAS AN INTEREST.MR. RAO WORKED HIS MAGIC AND GOT SOME KIND OF INTEREST.
RANDY, HOW DID WE CAN YOU REMIND US? FF&E. NO, NO.
FOR TOM GREEN IT WAS OH, BECAUSE THEY DID THE WALL, THE FLOORING AND THE CONSTRUCTION OK .
HOW WE BUY THE TABLES FOR TOM GREEN.
MR. CLEAVER? I HAVE A SPREADSHEET.
I CAN PULL IT UP. I DON'T HAVE IT HERE WITH ME.
BUT WE DON'T, WE DON'T, WE DON'T NEED TO KNOW RIGHT NOW.
WE'RE GOING TO SAVE SOME MONEY.
YES, MR. SAVOY, THAT WAS ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS.
ONCE YOU ALL GOT THROUGH ALL OF THIS, WE STILL HAVE THE QUESTION, DO YOU WANT TO ADD OUR STANDARD CAVEAT OR SOME FORM OF IT WHERE ANY SAVINGS REALIZED FROM THE BOND WOULD BE RETURNED TO THE TAXPAYERS BY BUYING DOWN BOND? AND I DON'T THINK YOU CAN.
GERRI MIGHT BE ABLE TO ANSWER SINCE 2020.
YOU CAN'T YOU CAN'T SPEND THE DIFFERENCE WITHOUT A SEPARATE BOARD MEETING.
WITH THAT BEING THE ONLY ITEM ON THE AGENDA, FINE.
BUT THE INTEREST FOR BOND IS NOT CONSIDERED PROCEEDS OF THE BONDS.
IF YOU SELL A BOND EARLY, THAT'S WHERE I THINK IS IT IF IT'S A THAT'S ALREADY ON THE BOND AND WE'RE JUST ADDING TO IT, I THINK I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT WOULD BE A WE'RE WE'RE AMENDING WE'D HAVE TO YOU KNOW, I'M SAYING IF YOU TOOK FURNITURE OFF OF HERE AND IT WASN'T ON THE BOND, YOU COULDN'T GO THEN BACK AND USE THE DIFFERENCE. OKAY.
SAY A PROJECT WAS WITHOUT HAVING A SPECIAL BOARD MEETING JUST WITH THAT ON THE AGENDA.
AND YOU COULD USE INTEREST INCOME IF IT'S A SAVINGS DIFFERENCE, BUT INTEREST IS NOT CONSIDERED PROCEEDS FROM THE BOND, CORRECT? THEN HOW WOULD YOU IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE FURNITURE, FOR EXAMPLE, ON HERE, IF YOU TOOK THE 819,000 OFF? BUT LET'S SAY ANOTHER PROJECT CAME IN ABOUT A MILLION SHORT OF WHAT BUDGETED.
SO YOU HAD A SURPLUS OF $1,000,000 TO SPEND THAT ON FURNITURE SINCE IT WASN'T ON THE ORIGINAL BOND.
WOULD THAT REQUIRE A SEPARATE BOARD MEETING WITH THAT BEING THE ONLY ITEM ON THE AGENDA? FOR AUTHORIZATION.
OH, I DON'T PUT YOU ON THE. MAYBE.
OH, THAT'S OKAY. MAYBE WE COULD LOOK INTO THAT.
BUT I THINK THAT'S HOW I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE CHANGE WAS.
OKAY. SO IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE.
IS THAT A CONSENT? WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THAT UP.
I'M LOOKING AROUND. DO I HAVE CONSENSUS TO REMOVE THE FURNITURE? WE'LL FIND ANOTHER WAY TO PAY FOR IT.
I WAS GOING TO SAY, THE BOND IS JUST WHEN YOU SAID SAVINGS, IT'S DIFFERENT.
AND I DO WANT TO TELL THE TAXPAYERS WE'RE GOING TO RETURN ANY MONEY.
SO LET'S KEEP IT THAT PLAN IS OUT.
WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THE MULTIPURPOSE PAVILIONS FOR 52 MILLION AS A SEPARATE PROP.
I THOUGHT WE HAD TO CALL IT D.
PROP D. THESE ARE GOING TO BE THE PAVILIONS AND THE WEIGHT ROOMS TOGETHER.
ALL RIGHT? SO, NO, WE DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY.
SO IT'S JUST THE PAVILIONS BY THEMSELVES.
AND WHAT DO WE CALL THEM? WELL, LET'S SEE.
WE HAVE PROP A IS ACADEMICS AND GROWTH.
AND PROP B IS FINE ARTS, ATHLETICS AND CTE.
I HAVE A LOT OF MESSY NOTES ON MY PAPER.
ARE WE REMOVING THE STORAGE FACILITY FOR 2.8 MILLION? THAT COMES OFF OF PROP B, THE BUSSES GO TO 3.75 MILLION.
WE ADD THE SORRY, THE BUSSES CUT IN HALF TO 3.75 MILLION.
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WHERE IS THAT? RIGHT THERE IN YELLOW.THAT'S WHERE YOU PUT IT. POINT 75 MILLION.
AND AND THEN WE'RE ADDING IN DESIGN INITIAL DESIGN FEES FOR LEHMAN AND HAYS EXPANSIONS AT 4.7 MILLION.
DID YOU TAKE OUT THE STORAGE? I HAVEN'T DONE A LOT. I MEAN, I'M JUST YOU.
I CAN GIVE YOU IF YOU NEED THEM.
LEHMAN INITIAL DESIGN FEATURE.
. OH AND THIS WAS COLOR CODED.
TEAM, DO WE HAVE CONSENSUS AROUND THAT? DO I NEED TO REPEAT ANYTHING? YES. MRS. RUNKLE.
SO IS THE CTE THE ONLY THING THAT CTE I'M SITTING HERE SCROLLING THROUGH IS THE LHS AUDITORIUM, THEATER CLASSROOMS AND CTE CLASSROOMS. THE VET TECH AND CAUSE COSMO.
OKAY, SO I GUESS I'M STRUGGLING WITH NOT HAVING CTE ON PROP A, SO I KIND OF JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND AND TALK TO THAT A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE TO ME.
THEIR CLASSROOMS. AND AND I DON'T KNOW.
I JUST FEEL LIKE THOSE SHOULD BE ON PROP A.
OKAY. AT LEAST THE CTE PORTION OF THOSE OF THAT LINE ITEM.
I MEAN. LHS AUDITORIUM, THEATER, CLASSROOMS, AND CTE CLASSROOMS. SO THAT WOULD NEED TO BE SPLIT APART INTO TWO.
I THINK THEY'RE PHYSICALLY IN THE SAME BUILDING, THOUGH.
I GET THAT. BUT THAT'S WHY IT'S CONFUSING, THOUGH, WHEN IT FITS CLEANLY IN PROP B, WHEN WE CALL IT FINE ARTS, ATHLETICS AND CTE.
THAT'S WHERE WE CALL IT CO-CURRICULAR GROUP.
MS. OROSCO. WHAT WAS THE TITLE OF PROP B THAT YOU SAID.
FINE ARTS, ATHLETICS AND CTE? OKAY, THEN I'M FINE WITH THAT.
AND THE PROP A IS ACADEMIC GROWTH OR ACADEMICS AND GROWTH.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO CALL IT.
AND THEN PROP C IS TECHNOLOGY.
TECHNOLOGY. PROP D IS PAVILIONS OUTDOOR, OUTDOOR, MULTIPURPOSE PAVILIONS.
YEAH, I HAVEN'T I DON'T HAVE AN ABILITY TO DO MATH HERE.
MS. RUNKLE. I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S WHAT YOU NAMED IT FOR PROP B, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM EVERYBODY ELSE ABOUT TAKING OUT CTE ONLY IN PROP B AND MOVING IT TO PROP A.
I GET IT'S A LITTLE MESSY, BUT JUST.
I MEAN, THEY SHOULD HAVE THE INFORMATION, RIGHT? WELL, I THINK THERE'S THERE'S SO LITTLE CTE.
I WOULD SAY THAT IT WOULD MAKE SENSE JUST WHERE YOU WOULD HAVE THE CTE DEPENDENT.
AND JOHNSON IS DEPENDENT UPON THE ACADEMIC EXPANSION.
SO THAT BUT THAT WAS ALREADY DISCUSSED.
I'LL GO WITH THE WILL OF THE BOARD.
I MEAN, I THINK YOU COULD MAKE A CASE FOR MARIACHI AS A CLASS.
IT'S A CLASS. YOU GET CREDIT FOR IT.
SO, I MEAN, FOR MOST OF THESE, I THINK YOU COULD MAKE THAT CASE IS PROBABLY WHAT I WOULD SAY.
YES. WE LOVE THAT ROCKETRY PROGRAM.
THANKS FOR BRINGING THAT UP, MR. MADAM PRESIDENT, SIMPLE I'D LIKE TO READ BACK WHAT I HAVE SO THAT I CAN Y'ALL CAN CONFIRM.
OKAY. LINE BY LINE CONFIRMATION.
IS THAT IT? PRETTY MUCH. YOU THINK? LET'S. LET'S SEE WHERE WE'RE AT.
YEAH, GO AHEAD. OKAY, I'M GOING TO.
I'M GOING TO READ. ELEMENTARY 17 REMAINS IN PROP A.
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DRAINAGE REMAINS IN PROP A.YEP THAT'S I LOVE THAT AT THE TOP THERE.
NOW FURNITURE REPLACEMENTS IS DELETED AND WRITING DELETE IT ON THERE THE STORM WATER REMAINS IN PROP A.
WE HAVE MOVED THE NEXT THREE THAT'S JEFF'S REHEARSAL BAND HALL, VET TECH, COSMO BARBERING AND LHS BASEBALL SOFTBALL.
THOSE NEXT THREE ARE MOVED TO PROP B.
THEN THE NEXT NORTH DRIVE CONNECTING DRIVER TRAINING WALL FOR LEHMAN SERVICE DRIVE.
THEY ALL REMAIN IN PROP A RIGHT.
LHC PARKING IMPROVEMENTS MOVES TO PROP B? YEP. AND THEN THE REST OF THE ITEMS LISTED FOR PROP A AT THE GREEN SECTION HERE REMAIN IN PROP A.
WHAT ABOUT HHS PARKING AND DRIVE FOR BASEBALL? OH. DOES THAT GO TO B? I HAVE NOT GOING TO BE ALL RIGHT WE'RE MOVING THAT TO B AND THEN ON YOUR CHART THEN WE'RE NOW STARTING THE NEXT COLUMN. THESE ARE ALL B AND THEY REMAIN THE FROM THE BASEBALL, SOFTBALL, ARTIFICIAL TURF ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE JHS ALL PURPOSE PRACTICE, GYM AND REHEARSAL SPACE.
NO, THAT'S GO BACK UP WE'RE GOING TO LHS STORAGE AND GROUNDS BUILDING, ARE WE.
IS THAT DELETED? WE'RE DELETING THAT.
PROP D, THEN JHS ALL PURPOSE 13,000,045 THAT STAYS IN THE PROP B BUT THEN WHAT WE THE NEXT ITEM BECOMES ITS OWN PROPOSITION, PROP D FOR $52 MILLION OUTDOOR PAVILIONS.
TECHNOLOGY REMAINS IN PROP C AND THEN THE BLUE.
HERE THESE TWO THINGS ARE ZEROED OUT, RIGHT? CTE, PUBLIC SAFETY WEIGHT ROOMS REMAIN ZEROED OUT.
BUSSES ARE CUT IN ONE HALF TO 3.75 MILLION AND THEY REMAIN IN OR THEY'LL BE IN PROP A AND THEN THE IMPACT CENTER. THE RENOVATIONS AND THE CURRENT 1.5 MILLION FOR TOM GREEN AND THE 1.5 MILLION FOR KYLE ELEMENTARY IMPROVEMENTS.
THOSE REMAIN IN PROPERTY INITIAL DESIGN FEES FOR FUTURE MODERNIZATION AT KYLE AND TOM GREEN.
OF THE 1.82 REMAINS IN A INITIAL DESIGN FEE FOR FUTURE MODERNIZATION AND EXPANSION AT FUENTES AND HEMPHILL REMAIN IN PROP A AND THEN WE ARE ADDING INITIAL DESIGN FEES FOR LEHMAN HIGH SCHOOL AND HAYS HIGH SCHOOL.
POTENTIAL FUTURE EXPANSIONS AT $4.7 MILLION.
AND THEY WOULD BE IN PROP A YES.
AND THEN THAT CONCLUDES OTHER THAN THE END THE STANDARD CAVEAT AND WE'LL PULL THE LANGUAGE FROM A PREVIOUS BOND THAT EFFECTIVELY COMMITS ON OUR INFORMATION SHEET, WHICH IS EFFECTIVELY A CONTRACT WITH THE VOTERS, THAT THE BOARD INTENDS TO USE ANY EXCESS PROCEEDS FROM ONCE ALL THE PROJECTS ARE BUILT OUT TO BUY BACK DEBT OR IF WE WORDED IT.
SO FOR THE RECORD, WHAT I JUST SAID IS PROBABLY NOT THE OFFICIAL LEGAL WAY TO SAY IT.
I'LL JUST SAY THAT. BUT WE'LL GET IT.
WE'LL GET IT SQUARED AWAY WITH THAT INTENT.
AND JUST FOR FURTHER CLARIFICATION ON THAT, DOESN'T MEAN THAT EACH PROJECT IS CAPPED AT ITS AMOUNT BECAUSE YOU MIGHT HAVE SOME EBB AND FLOW, YOU MIGHT HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF SAVINGS ON ONE PROJECT, BUT ONE PROJECT MAY OVERRUN SO THE MONEY CAN MOVE AROUND WITHIN THE PROPOSITION.
WE COMPLETED ALL OF THAT AND HELP ME REMEMBER, WAS IT $5 MILLION, FOUR OR $5 MILLION THAT IT CAME IN UNDER DOING MATH RIGHT NOW, DON'T BOTHER WHAT WAS WHAT WAS PROJECTED? AND SO THAT WAS THEN USED TO DEFEAT BONDS.
IS THAT THE RIGHT WORD? DEFACEMENT. OH, YEAH, THE APPEASEMENT.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO THAT'S WHAT I HAVE.
WE HAVE SOME MORE QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS.
SO HANG ON. JUST. OKAY, WE'RE THAT'S WE'RE TRACKING.
OH, I THOUGHT THIS WE WERE DONE WITH.
NO, WE'RE NOT DONE YET. NO, NO, WE'RE DONE.
WE'RE REALLY CLOSE. WHAT DID YOU HAVE, MR. OROZCO? I HAVE ONE MORE THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY DELETE FROM THE BOND, WHICH IS THE JOHNSON FENCING FOR 107,000.
I KNOW WE ARE GETTING SOME FUNDS FOR SAFETY AND SECURITY AND 107,000 IN THE BOND.
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OUR WAY IN REGARDS TO SAFETY AND SECURITY.MR.. MR.. CLEAVER CAN YOU REMIND ME WHERE THOSE GATES ARE ARE GOING? THEY'RE THERE RIGHT OUTSIDE THE THE AREA WHERE THE BAYS ARE, THE OPEN BAYS.
IT'S THE IT'S THE GATE RIGHT NOW THAT'S JUST A DRIVE GATE.
AND WE'RE GOING TO PUT IN ACTUALLY LIKE A YOU KNOW, ABOUT ONE OF LIKE THE AUTO TECH IS.
YES. YEAH, YEAH. WE'RE GOING TO PUT IN A REAL FENCE LIKE A PEDESTRIAN.
WELL, HAVING JUST HAD OUR CAR THERE FOR ABOUT TWO WEEKS, I DON'T KNOW.
THAT'S NOT A BAD IDEA TO DO PRETTY QUICK, BUT I'M WITH YOU.
WILL WE GET ANY MONEY FROM THE STATE? IS THAT SOMETHING WE WE WANT TO WAIT ON? WE DON'T THINK SO. WE DON'T KNOW RIGHT NOW.
HAVE YOU HEARD ANYTHING FROM THE STATE IN TERMS OF SAFETY AND SECURITY DOLLARS FOR GATES OR GRANTS THAT YOU'RE WORKING ON FOR GATES? YEAH. FOR I KNOW THIS IS A PRETTY LOW AMOUNT.
I DON'T LIKE TO SEE THESE TINY AMOUNTS IN BOND FUNDS.
AS OF RIGHT NOW, MYSELF AND MS. NORRIS, ACTUALLY, WE'RE WORKING ON THAT TODAY.
WHAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED AS POTENTIAL NEEDS AND WHAT THE POTENTIAL FUNDING THUS FAR THAT WE'VE BEEN POTENTIALLY ALLOTTED WON'T BRING MUCH OF A DENT IN SOME OF OUR FENCING NEEDS ALONE.
AND SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WERE WORKING ON TODAY, IS TO ADDRESS THE BIGGEST ISSUE THAT WE'RE FINDING, MA'AM, IS THAT THEY ARE PROPOSED LEGISLATIVE SAFETY MANDATES, BUT THEY HAVE NOT BEEN ASSESSED OFFICIALLY.
SO WE REALLY ARE BEING ASKED TO FILL OUT A GRANT FOR VARIOUS THINGS WITHOUT ANY REAL FOCUS ON WHAT IS GOING TO BE EXPECTED OF THE DISTRICT. SO AT THIS POINT, WE'RE STILL KIND OF IN LIMBO ON DETERMINING WHAT THAT REALLY LOOKS LIKE FOR WHAT WE NEED TO PLAN FOR.
AND THEN WE HAVE CARPENTER HILL GATES ON HERE AS WELL.
MR. CLEAVER, ARE THERE OTHER GATES THAT I'M NOT SEEING? I JUST FEEL LIKE WE NEED A LOT OF GATES EVERYWHERE.
CARPENTER HILL IS ALREADY IN PROGRESS.
AND SO THE CARPENTER, THEY'RE NOT DOING WE'RE NOT DOING A RESOLUTION.
WE'RE NOT REIMBURSING FROM A FUTURE BOND.
WE'RE JUST PAYING FOR IT OUT OF GENERAL FUND.
I BELIEVE THAT WAS THE PLAN FROM THIS BOND, BUT I DON'T SEE IT ON HERE OR..
WHAT IS IT? INSECURITY ITEMS, POTENTIALLY.
POTENTIALLY. LET ME GO BACK TO THE SPREADSHEET.
IF THE FENCING FOR THE JUST SOMETHING I WAS SAYING IF THE JUST FENCING AND GATES HAS CTE STAYS DO YOU WANT TO MOVE THAT PROPERTY BECAUSE IT SAYS CTE IN IT? OKAY. I'M JUST I JUST FEEL LIKE WE NEED A LOT OF GATES EVERYWHERE.
WELL, AND I KNOW THE THE CARPENTER HILL.
I MEAN, I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE A ZILLION DOLLARS IN GATES ON THIS POND, TO BE HONEST.
AND THEN WE WERE TOLD THE LEDGE MAY HELP US OUT.
YES. ON 11 922, WE DISCUSSED CARPENTER HILL GATE TO BE ON A REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION ALONG WITH ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, ABOUT SIX OTHER ITEMS, AND WE'LL BE BRINGING THAT FORWARD. IS IT FOR REIMBURSEMENT FROM WHERE IT'S ACTUALLY INCLUDED IN THIS SAFETY AND SECURITY? SO IT'S A PART OF THIS NINE? IT IS, YEAH. YEAH.
WHY WOULDN'T THAT JUST ROLL UP WITH THAT? THAT'S WHAT I'M. WHY WOULD THAT THAT JH FENCING NOT ROLL UP INTO THAT 9.8.
WE CAN, WE CAN WE HAVE A WE COULD DO THAT IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.
WE HAVE A SIX FOOT SECURITY FENCE AND BUDGET.
DISTRICT WIDE FOR 105,280 FEET FOR $5.2 MILLION INSIDE THAT SECURITY ITEM.
YOU JUST NEED AROUND ROUNDED UP TO 10 MILLION AND YES, I MEAN I KNOW WE NEED THOSE GATES, BUT I JUST I DON'T KNOW WHAT IF WE DELETE IT AS A LINE ITEM AND MAKE THAT A STRAIGHT 10 MILLION? THIS IS THIS IS WE HAVE TO KEEP THESE GATES.
THIS IS WHAT I'M SAYING. LIKE, SO WE NEED TO ROUND IT UP.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE THINKING? WELL, YEAH, THAT'S A JUST LEAVE IT 9.8.
GOOD AT NINE AND YOU'RE AND 107 YOU'LL FIND IT.
TAKE IT OUT OF THIS SIX FOOT SECURITY FENCING BUDGET.
WE DID A BUDGET FOR HOW MANY LINEAR FEET WE NEED AND UNIT PRICE SO WE CAN TAKE IT OUT OF THAT.
SO WE'RE GETTING RID OF THE 107.
SO WE'RE DELETING THAT LINE ITEM AT ONCE.
JUST FENCING AND GATES AT CTE.
WE'RE STILL GOING TO DO THAT, BUT NOT THROUGH THE BOND PROCEEDS AS A SEPARATE LINE ITEM, PERHAPS AS A REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION FROM THE SECURITY ITEM. YEAH, YES, IT CAN ROLL UP BECAUSE WE SAID SECURITY FENCING.
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YES. ADD THE WORD GATES TO THAT AND YOU'RE THERE.RIGHT. GREAT POINT MRS. OROSCO, THANK YOU.
OKAY. I'M GLAD WE WORK THAT OUT.
IS ANYBODY ELSE HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS? CONCERNS? ALL RIGHT.
I HAVE ONE I'M GOING TO THROW DOWN AND JUST HEAR ME OUT AND YOU CAN MAKE A DECISION.
FENCING JOKE. WHAT? YOU GOT A FENCING JOKE? YOU ALL ARE TAKING FENCING OFF THE BOND AND THEY'RE STATE CHAMPIONS IN THAT.
OH, LIKE, OKAY, WELL, WE'RE ALSO POWERLIFTING CHAMPIONS AND WE TOOK WEIGHT ROOMS OFF.
SO IF YOU WANT TO GO THERE, WE CAN GO THERE.
OKAY. WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK ABOUT MAKING PROPS C THE PAVILIONS AND PROP D TECHNOLOGY? JUST THINK ABOUT THAT AS A VOTER, WHAT DO Y'ALL THINK.
WHAT? SAM, WHAT DO YOU THINK? I THINK THAT TECHNOLOGY HAD TO BE LAST AND PROP F LAST TIME, SO TO MAKE HIM A D, GIVE HIM A C, MAYBE A C . DR. WRIGHT, WHAT DO YOU THINK? I DON'T THINK IT MATTERS.
NO, I THINK THE VOTERS ARE GOING TO READ IT AND THEY'RE GOING TO VOTE THEIR CONSCIENCE.
I THINK YOU SHOULD KEEP IT LIKE IT IS, BECAUSE I'M ALREADY PROBABLY NOT GOING TO READ MY NOTES.
AND THE MORE I HAVE TO SCRATCH OUT AND CHANGE, THE MORE LIKELY THERE'S NO MISTAKE.
SO YOU TOOK THE 107 OFF OR WHERE ARE WE AT? SO IF MY MATH IS CORRECT AND WE'RE DOING THIS ON THE FLY, I HAVE THE TOTAL AT 361, 124, 566.
SO WHAT YOU GET THREE, SIX AND WE NEEDED TO BE UNDER 365.
THE LAST TWO NUMBERS FIVE, 361, 124, 566.
ONE, TWO, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SIX.
MR. VELA, YOU HAVE A QUESTION? COMMENT SINCE WE'RE UNDER.
OKAY, WE HAD FIVE MORE BUSSES.
WE HAD FOUR MORE DOLLARS TO ROUND IT UP TO FIVE.
SEVEN. YOU'RE NOT PUT IN THE CHECKS.
OKAY. SIX, ONE, ONE, TWO, FOUR, FIVE, FIVE, SIX.
WE'RE PUTTING THE OUTDOOR PAVILIONS IT'S OWN PROP.
I JUST WANT THE UNDERSTANDING THAT WE'RE GOING TO DESIGN IT TO BE SCALABLE.
SO IF WE'RE GOING TO ADD WEIGHT ROOMS TO IT DOWN THE ROAD, THAT THERE'S ALREADY THINGS IN PLACE STRUCTURALLY, YOU KNOW, EMPTY CONDUIT OR WHATEVER, THAT IS GOING TO BE LAID DOWN TO PLAN FOR WHEN WE EXPECT WHEN WE ADD THE WEIGHT ROOMS TO IT.
YES, WELL, WE COULD PUT THAT IN THE THUMBS UP FROM THE ARCHITECT.
WE CAN PUT THAT IN THE INFORMATION SHEET DESCRIPTION OF IT WHEN WE PUT IT TOGETHER WHERE THAT IT WOULD BE A PAVILION WITH DESIGN TO INCLUDE EXPANDED WEIGHT ROOMS SHOULD THAT PASS IN A FUTURE BOND OR SOMETHING.
AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE ON THAT NOTE, WITH THE PAVILIONS THAT WE HAVE A RESERVATION SYSTEM, MR. MOFFITT AND MS.. MORENO, THAT IS GOING TO ACTUALLY HONOR THE PEOPLE THAT RESERVE THE SPACE, SINCE THAT HAS BEEN AN ISSUE, CURRENT ISSUE THAT NEEDS TO BE RESOLVED IMMEDIATELY.
SO WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF THAT.
THE SAME SHOULD BE TRUE WITH THOSE THIRD GEMS THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE PERFORMANCE GEMS. THE SAME SHOULD BE TRUE. THERE NEEDS TO BE AN EQUITABLE WAY TO RESERVE THOSE SPACES.
THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT MS. OROSCO BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO BE HERE ABOUT IT IF IT'S NOT SHARED NICELY.
I JUST WANT TO SAY, CAN WE ASK, CAN WE GET AN UPDATED WITH OUR CHANGES IN THE MORNING THAT POSSIBLE DUE TO THE VOLUME OF CHANGES? JUST KIDDING. LET'S GIVE THEM UNTIL CLOSE OF BUSINESS TOMORROW MORNING.
ANYTHING ELSE, TEAM? ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE OUR MEETING NEXT WEEK, MONDAY, WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GET SOME BOND DOCUMENTS FROM OUR BOND COUNCIL TO BE ABLE TO VOTE ON THIS . TEAM, I KNOW THIS WAS PAINFUL.
I KNOW THIS IS HARD. PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE.
I KNOW IT'S WAY MORE PAINFUL FOR YOU.
THANK YOU FOR STICKING WITH US AND BEING AMENABLE TO SOME CHANGES.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
THIS IS A LOT OF WORK AND IT DOESN'T END UP BEING THE SAME THING THAT YOU MAY HAVE BIRTHED.
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WE ARE ADJOURNED AT 9:28 P.M..