K.2. Consideration and possible adoption of the instrument to be used to evaluate the Superintendent

[K.4. Consideration and possible approval of an official request to the Hays County Sheriff's Office for 15 additional School Resource Officers for Hays CISD campuses]

THIS IS A NEW ITEM FROM LAST WEEK.

THIS IS THE DISTRICT.

THE LETTER IS ACTUALLY ON PAGE 54.

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DR. WRIGHT I THINK IT WOULD BE PROBABLY A GOOD IDEA FOR YOU TO READ THAT LETTER AND THEN MAKE ANY COMMENTS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SURROUNDING IT.

THANK YOU. SO IN REGARD IN REGARDS TO THE LEGISLATIVE MANDATE DEALING WITH HOUSE BILL THREE, THAT YOU HAVE AN ARMED SECURITY OFFICER ON EVERY SINGLE CAMPUS. I'VE WRITTEN A LETTER REQUESTING THAT SHERIFF CUTLER ADD 15 NEW SROS FOR HAYS CISD AND LET ME READ IT TO YOU REAL QUICK. IT'S SHORT AND SWEET.

DEAR SHERIFF CUTLER, AFTER DISCUSSING THE COMPLIANCE OPTIONS FOR THE NEW HOUSE BILL THREE LAW MANDATING AN ARMED OFFICER AT EACH CAMPUS, THE BOARD AND I AGREE THAT THE BEST OPTION IS TO STAFF A SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER SRO AT EACH ONE OF OUR CAMPUSES.

THEREFORE, WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THE ADDITION OF 15 ADDITIONAL SROS FOR HAYS CISD.

I APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT AND FOR THE CONSIDERATION OF THE POSSIBLE AFOREMENTIONED POSITIONS, AND SO JUST KNOW, PER OUR CONVERSATIONS, WE ARE LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN BE IN COMPLIANCE UNTIL WE ARE ABLE TO HAVE A POSTED SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER AT EVERY CAMPUS, AND SO I HAD MY COMMISSIONER'S MEETING WITH THE SUPERINTENDENTS THIS PAST THURSDAY AND WE WERE SEEKING GUIDANCE FOR WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE, AND BASICALLY TEA IS NOT IN A POSITION TO BE ABLE TO OFFER GUIDANCE OR SUPPORT AT THIS TIME, AND SO I'M VERY THANKFUL THAT OUR CHIEF OF SAFETY AND SECURITY, JERI SKROCKI, AND HER TEAM HAVE BEEN REACHING OUT AND FORMULATING IDEAS OF WHAT A GUARDIAN OR A MARSHAL PLAN MAY LOOK LIKE SO THAT WE'LL BE IN COMPLIANCE SO THAT WE CAN BRIDGE THE GAP UNTIL WE CAN FIND SROS, AND SO THIS LETTER, IF APPROVED, WILL BE SENT TO SHERIFF CUTLER AND THEN WE WILL BEGIN HOPEFULLY HIRING A FEW SROS AT A TIME.

THEY ARE GROSSLY UNDERSTAFFED RIGHT NOW, ARE, AS ARE MANY LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES ACROSS THE STATE AND THE NATION, JUST BECAUSE OF THE NEGATIVE MEDIA ATTENTION ASSOCIATED WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT, AND I THINK MORE PEOPLE ARE SIGNING UP TO BE IN THE FIREFIGHTER ACADEMIES AND BE A FIREFIGHTER RATHER THAN GOING INTO LAW ENFORCEMENT, AND SO HOPEFULLY THAT PERCEPTION WILL CHANGE AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO FILL THE POSITIONS, BUT JUST KIND OF WANTED TO GIVE AN OVERVIEW.

OKAY. MR. VELA THEN MRS. OROSCO. DR. WRIGHT THANK YOU FOR THAT INSIGHT AND THANK YOU FOR THE SUCCINCT BUT DIRECT LETTER.

WE DEFINITELY LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING HOW THE VOTE UNFOLDS.

YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU HAD ASKED TEA FOR ANY ASSISTANCE.

DID THEY GIVE ANY REASON AS TO WHY THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO PROVIDE ANY ASSISTANCE? WELL, IT JUST PASSED THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION, AND SO THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF GATHERING INFORMATION FROM SCHOOLS THAT HAVE ALREADY ALREADY HAD THIS IN MOTION FOR QUITE A WHILE, BUT IT'S JUST GOING TO TAKE THEM A WHILE IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE GUIDANCE.

THEY'RE JUST NOT READY TO DO SO EXTENSIVELY AT THIS TIME.

OKAY, BUT WE DO EXPECT SOME KIND OF GUIDANCE.

IS THERE A I WASN'T GIVEN A TIMELINE, BUT I WOULD I WOULD SUSPECT THAT AT SOME POINT THEY'LL HAVE SOME MORE SUCCINCT GUIDELINES.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

MRS. OROSCO.

SO I WONDER IF IT'S LIKE THE A THROUGH F ACCOUNTABILITY SYSTEM WHERE THEY STILL DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING OR HOW THEY ARE EVALUATING US.

SO THIS MAKES ME BELIEVE THAT THEY HAVE NO IDEA HOW THEY'RE GOING TO IMPLEMENT THIS.

WITH OVER 1000 SCHOOL DISTRICTS, WITH OVER 8000 CAMPUSES IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, WHERE WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE STARTING SEPTEMBER 1ST, R IGHT, THAT WE NEEDED TO BE ON BOARD WITH THIS YET TEA DOES NOT HAVE ANY GUIDANCE OR SUPPORT FOR US.

JUST ANOTHER WAY TO FAIL PUBLIC EDUCATION.

THAT IS VERY DISTURBING THAT WE HAVE NO GUIDANCE AND SUPPORT.

THIS IS A HUGE DEAL.

SAFETY AND SECURITY IS SO IMPORTANT, AND I KNOW THAT THIS BOARD REALLY PRIORITIZED SAFETY AND SECURITY SINCE WAY BEFORE YEARS AGO. SO I'M GLAD WE HAVE CHIEF SKROCKI ON BOARD TO KIND OF PAVE THE WAY, MAYBE NOT JUST FOR OUR DISTRICT, BUT FOR DISTRICTS ALL OVER THE STATE OF TEXAS AS WELL, SINCE THERE IS NO GUIDANCE AND SUPPORT FROM TEA.

SO, DR. WRIGHT, WHEN YOU DO GET A TIMELINE OR GET MORE INFORMATION, CAN YOU PLEASE SHARE THAT OUT WITH US? THANK YOU, MR. FLORES. AGAIN, THANK YOU, DR.

WRIGHT AND CHIEF SKROCKI FOR WANTING TO PROVIDE NOT ONLY ARMED GUARDS AT SCHOOLS, BUT QUALITY OFFICERS AT OUR SCHOOLS THAT ARE WELL TRAINED. MY QUESTION IS JUST FOR THOSE LISTENING AS THIS LETTER GOES OUT AND IS RECEIVED BY SHERIFF CUTLER, WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP FROM THEIR PART? I MEAN, EVEN LOOKING LONG TERM, FROM THEIR END, THEY'LL PROBABLY HAVE TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND THE JUDGE IN ORDER TO EXPAND THEIR BUDGET AND THEN THEY'LL HAVE TO POST POSITIONS AND BEGIN TO TRAIN INDIVIDUALS THAT WILL SERVE THAT ROLE, AND SO HE DIDN'T GIVE ME A TIMELINE, BUT

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I KNOW ONCE THEY RECEIVE THIS LETTER, THEY'LL START THE ACTION AND THE TIMELINE WILL COMMENCE FROM THERE, AND THEN OUR GOAL IS HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE ABLE TO ADD THEM AS THEY BECOME AVAILABLE.

AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR BEING UNCOMPROMISING ON SCHOOL SAFETY.

OKAY, JUST A COUPLE OF COMMENTS FROM ME, AND IT'S JUST TO REITERATE WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN SAID, BUT I WANT OUR COMMUNITY TO KNOW AND IT'S EVIDENT, I BELIEVE, HOW IMPORTANT SAFETY AND SECURITY IS TO THIS BOARD AND THIS ADMINISTRATION.

I THINK WE'VE WORKED INCREDIBLY HARD TO PUT HIGH QUALITY PEOPLE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT FOR OUR STUDENTS, AND IT'S ALSO, AS BEST THAT WE CAN, HAS BEEN FUNDED AND WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT FUNDING.

IT IS WHAT IT IS. WE KNOW THE SITUATION WE FACE, BUT I ALSO WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY ABOUT I DON'T I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO HEAR THIS LETTER AND THINK THAT THERE'S ANY SORT OF ISSUE WITH OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

NOTHING REALLY COULD BE FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH AT THIS TIME, AND THEY'RE A TRULY A VERY GOOD PARTNER FOR HAYS CISD.

THEY ARE IN A PREDICAMENT JUST LIKE WE ARE, AND THAT THEY ALSO HAVE OPEN POSITIONS THAT THEY JUST NEED FOR PATROL AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND SO THERE'S LOTS OF DISTRICTS ASKING FOR HELP.

I BELIEVE MS. OROZCO SAID THERE'S 8000 CAMPUSES STATEWIDE AND THERE'S NOT 8000 SROS SITTING AROUND LOOKING FOR WORK.

SO IT'S GOING TO TAKE A MONUMENTAL EFFORT WITH NO FUNDING OR GUIDANCE FROM THE STATE OTHER THAN YOU HAVE TO GO DO IT, AND THAT IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT I WILL TELL YOU RIGHT NOW. THIS DISTRICT IS NOT AFRAID TO TAKE ON, AND WE WILL AND WE WILL FIGURE IT OUT, AND WE ARE GOING TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO KEEP OUR KIDS AND OUR CAMPUSES SAFE.

OKAY, SO THE SUGGESTED MOTION IS THAT THE HAYS CISD BOARD OF TRUSTEES APPROVE THE OFFICIAL REQUEST TO THE HAYS COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE FOR 15 ADDITIONAL SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS FOR HAYS CISD CAMPUSES AS PRESENTED BY MRS. OROSCO, SECONDED BY MS. RUNKLE. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? MS. PETREA.

REALLY QUICK, I KNOW IT'S NOMINAL FUNDING, BUT DR.

WRIGHT, CAN YOU REMIND US WHAT WE ARE PROMISED FROM THE STATE PER STUDENT? YES. WE ARE SUPPOSED TO RECEIVE $15,000 PER CAMPUS AND WE ARE SUPPOSED TO RECEIVE $0.28 PER STUDENT.

$0.28. 28 PENNIES.

FROM WHAT WE WERE FUNDED LAST YEAR.

SO THE TOTAL WILL RECEIVE IS ABOUT $395,000, AND THE TOTAL COST FOR ADDING ADDITIONAL SROS AT THE COUNT OF 15 IS GOING TO PROBABLY BE ABOUT 1.5 MILLION.

SO WE'LL FUND ABOUT 1.1 LOCALLY AND THE STATE WILL FUND MAYBE THE OTHER PORTION.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MS. PETREA. ANYBODY ELSE? MS. RUNKLE? WHAT DID YOU SAY THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT WAS FROM THE STATE? 395,000? YES 395,000.

THAT'S THE AMOUNT THAT OUR STUDENTS ARE WORTH, AND THAT'S PRETTY SAD.

PRETTY DARN SAD.

I JUST WANTED TO CALL THAT OUT.

OKAY. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

SEVEN ZERO.

ALL RIGHT, TEAM, THANK YOU FOR THAT DISCUSSION AND OUR SUPPORT OF OUR STUDENTS.

[K.5. Consideration and possible approval of a memorandum of understanding between Hays CISD and Texas Workforce Housing Foundation regarding Affordable Housing for Hays CISD Employees]

OKAY. WE ARE ON PAGE 55 NOW, WHICH IS THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN CISD AND THE TEXAS WORKFORCE HOUSING FOUNDATION.

WE HAD A PRETTY ROBUST CONVERSATION AND A REALLY GOOD PRESENTATION LAST WEEK ON THIS.

THERE MAY BE SOME ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION WE WANT TO HAVE TONIGHT, SO I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR THAT FIRST.

ANYBODY? MR. SEVERANCE? THANK YOU.

I DO HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS.

NUMBER ONE. HAVE WE, I CAN'T REMEMBER HOW WE LEFT IT LAST.

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO COME UP TO THE PODIUM, PLEASE.

MS. COURSON, BUT DID WE KIND OF GET A ROUGH UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT OUR CONSUMPTION OF THIS PROGRAM MIGHT BE? HOW MANY UNITS WE MIGHT AS A DISTRICT BE NEEDING TO WITH THIS PROGRAM? AT THIS TIME, WE'VE NOT CONDUCTED A GENERAL SURVEY OF ALL STAFF FIRST WANTED TO GAUGE INTEREST AND SUPPORT FROM THE BOARD, BUT I CAN ABSOLUTELY DEVELOP A SURVEY TO GENERATE TO SEND TO ALL STAFF TO GATHER THE INFORMATION ON INTEREST.

CERTAINLY WOULD WANT TO PAIR THAT WITH A DISCUSSION BASED ON DATA OF DISTRICT NEED AND SEE WHERE WE CAN MARRY THE TWO,

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THE INTEREST AND THE NEED TOGETHER TO FIGURE OUT HOW BEST TO SERVE OUR STAFF AND SUPPORT OUR CAMPUSES.

YEAH, NO, THAT'S GREAT. I JUST COULDN'T REMEMBER IF YOU WERE GOING TO DO SOME SORT OF JUST FEELER SURVEY THIS THIS PAST WEEK.

I CAN'T REMEMBER. WE LEFT THAT, AND THEN MY SECOND QUESTION WOULD BE, AND I BELIEVE IT'S THE WHAT WAS THE NAME OF THE IT THAT YOU GUYS ARE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW? THE CHLOE.

THE CHLOE, AND HOW MANY UNITS IS THAT BUILDING OR THAT COMPLEX? GOOD EVENING. I THINK IT'S ABOUT 300 UNITS OR 300 TOTAL.

250 TO 300. OKAY, AND SO BASED ON YOUR PROJECTIONS LAST WEEK, YOU FEEL THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO SERVICE MAYBE 25 TO 50 OF THOSE UNITS? WOULD THAT WAS THAT YOUR PROJECTION? I WOULD SAY AT LEAST 50.

THAT'S PROBABLY THE SWEET SPOT, DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH SUBSIDY YOU WANT TO PROVIDE.

OKAY, AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION WOULD RELATED TO YOUR FOUNDATION, WOULD YOU GUYS BE ON A YEARLY BASIS BE WILLING TO SHARE YOUR EXPENSE RATIOS ON YOUR FOUNDATION TO US? YES. IN ADDITION TO THAT, THEY'LL PROVIDE A BREAKDOWN OF WHO'S ACTUALLY UTILIZING THE PROGRAM AND THE UNIT TYPE.

SO ONE BEDROOM, TWO BEDROOM AND I GUESS THE ARMY OF THE TENANT SO THAT YOU KNOW, WHAT PART OF THE EMPLOYEES IS BEING SERVICED AND THEN, YEAH, THANK YOU FOR THAT.

I WAS KIND OF REFERRING TO THE EXPENSE RATIOS OF THE FOUNDATION ITSELF AND THEN OF THE COMPLEX GOING FORWARD.

YES, BOTH OF THOSE.

YES. GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YOU'RE WELCOME. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. MR. VELA. ALL RIGHT.

REAL QUICK. SO HOW MANY DISTRICTS ARE PARTICIPATING IN THE IN THE PROGRAM ALREADY? ONE OF THE FIRST.

SO THERE'S FOUR THAT ARE ALREADY SIGNED UP, BUT I THINK MR. MEJIA SAID BY THE END OF THIS YEAR THERE MAY BE 12 OR 15.

OKAY, SO WE'RE KIND OF AN EARLY ADOPTER IN THIS, RIGHT? AND SO DEFINITELY I KNOW, MS. COURSON, YOU'RE GOING TO YOU'RE GOING TO DO THE SURVEYS OR EVEN SEE IF THIS IS ATTRACTING ADDITIONAL STAFF AND TALENT.

WE'RE REALLY FOCUSING ON ON THE AUXILIARY POSITIONS WITH THIS, RIGHT.

IS THAT. WELL, THAT IS A DISCUSSION THAT WE CAN HAVE AS A LEADERSHIP TEAM AND CERTAINLY GET INPUT FROM THE BOARD.

WE WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHO'S INTERESTED.

RIGHT, AND FROM THAT ALSO, WHERE WHERE ARE OUR NEEDS? WHO CAN THIS BENEFIT MOST, RIGHT, BUT ALSO REMEMBERING THAT WHEN WE TAKE CARE OF OUR STAFF, WE'RE ULTIMATELY TAKING CARE OF OUR STUDENTS, AND SO ARE THERE SPECIFIC JOBS AND ROLES WITHIN THE DISTRICT THAT'S DIFFICULT TO RECRUIT FOR WHERE WE COULD PERHAPS USE THIS AS AND I'M NOT SAYING WHOLLY BUT PARTIALLY AS A RECRUITMENT TOOL FOR THOSE SPECIFIC AND STRATEGIC NEEDS.

SO I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A DISCUSSION AS MUCH AS WE'RE GENERATING INTEREST, ENGAGING THAT AS WELL AS DEMOGRAPHICS TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THEIR INCOME FALLS AND WHERE THEY ARE.

I THINK WE ALSO NEED TO INVENTORY THE TRUE NEEDS BY CAMPUS OR BY ROLE AND CERTAINLY LOOKING AT JOB CLASSIFICATIONS TO SEE WHO MOST NEEDS IT AS WELL.

SURE. OKAY, GREAT. SO WE GOT SOME HOMEWORK AHEAD OF US.

WE DO.

BUT THIS IS A GOOD THING BECAUSE AND JUST AS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT FINANCES EARLIER, THIS IS NOT NOTHING COMES OUT OF THE DISTRICT'S POCKETS, IF YOU WILL.

THAT'S CORRECT, BUT IT'S STILL A NICE BENEFIT THAT WE CAN USE TO RETAIN AND ATTRACT TOP TALENT.

ABSOLUTELY I MEAN, THE BOARD HAS BEEN INTENTIONAL FOR THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS IN PROVIDING VERY GENEROUS INCREASES TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR STAFF ARE TAKEN CARE OF, AND ULTIMATELY, WE KNOW THAT INVESTMENT GOES TO OUR STUDENTS.

RIGHT? YOU WANT THE VERY BEST STAFF FOR OUR STUDENTS, AND SO THIS IS YET ANOTHER WAY TO SUPPORT OUR STAFF.

YOU'VE INCREASED THEIR THEIR SALARIES.

YOU'VE SUPPLEMENTED THEIR HEALTH INSURANCE WITH THE ADDITIONAL ADD IN THIS PAST COMPENSATION PLAN.

NOW IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO CUT HOUSING COSTS.

I MEAN, I'M THINKING ABOUT THOSE TWO BEDROOM APARTMENTS AND I'M THINKING ABOUT TWO SINGLE TEACHERS SPLITTING A TWO BEDROOM APARTMENT AND WHAT THAT MIGHT MEAN FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO SAVE MONEY TOWARDS A DOWN PAYMENT TO A HOUSE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

SO, I MEAN, THERE'S ANY COMBINATION OF WAYS THAT OUR STAFF COULD MAXIMIZE THIS OPPORTUNITY, AND THIS IS JUST THE FIRST STEP.

I MEAN, THIS IS ONE PROPERTY, SO.

GREAT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. FLORES.

FIRST OF ALL, I LOVE THIS PROGRAM, AND LET ME JUST SECOND.

I MEAN, THE FACT THAT THIS IS ANOTHER WAY THE DISTRICT IS SHOWING THAT THEY VALUE ALL THEIR EMPLOYEES AND WITH THE WITH THE COST OF LIVING AND STUDENT LOAN REPAYMENTS COMING BACK IN OCTOBER, THIS IS GOING TO BE VERY IMPORTANT NOT ONLY FOR TEACHERS BUT FOR OUR CUSTODIAL STAFF AND SO FORTH, BUT SO THERE'S FOUR PROPERTIES IN ROUND ROCK ISD THAT ARE PARTICIPATING, AS FAR AS I KNOW, FIVE IN AUSTIN INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT, NONE YET IN PFLUGERVILLE AND SEGUIN, CORRECT?

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YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

SO I WOULD ASK, LIKE I SUPPORT THIS MEASURE, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO BE UPDATED ON THE NUMBER OF PROPERTIES IF THIS BOARD VOTES IN FAVOR OF THIS THAT ARE JUST CONTINUOUS UPDATES ON HOW MANY PROPERTIES WE HAVE THAT ARE ACTUALLY BUYING INTO THIS PROGRAM, THAT WOULD BE GREAT TO BE UPDATED.

JUST JUST ON WHERE WE ARE, I'D BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE UPDATES TO THE BOARD, NOT ONLY OF THAT, BUT JUST THE PROCESS THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING TO GET TO FILLING THOSE FOR THOSE APARTMENTS AS WELL AS WHAT WE'RE DOING TO SPREAD THE WORD WITH INFORMATION, WITH COMMUNICATION, AND WE'LL DEFINITELY KEEP YOU INFORMED ALONG THE WAY SO THAT YOU'RE IN THE KNOW.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

MS. PETREA.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. HARDEN, CHRISTINA COURSON AND JOHN HALL FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.

THANK YOU FOR PRESENTING.

I DID GET TO LISTEN TO THE PRESENTATION FROM LAST MONDAY'S MEETING, AND THIS SOUNDS ALMOST TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE, AND I KNOW EVERY TIME WE THROW A HARD QUESTION AT YOU, YOU'RE LIKE, NOPE, NOPE.

I MEAN, THERE ARE SOME AD VALOREM TAX IMPLICATIONS WHICH WE UNDERSTAND, AND I THINK THEY'RE WORTH THOSE DOLLARS AND IT IS UP TO US BOARD OR ACTUALLY IT'S UP TO THE ADMINISTRATION.

IT WOULD BE UP TO CHRISTINA COURSON'S TEAM AS TO HOW WE WOULD FILL THESE.

SOME DISTRICTS HAVE DONE THIS AS A FIRST COME, FIRST SERVE BECAUSE IT CAN BE A LITTLE BIT OF AN ADMINISTRATIVE TASK TO FIGURE THIS OUT, BUT WE COULD DO IT LIKE SHE SAID, WHICH IS WHICH I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SAY LIKE REALLY HARD TO FILL POSITIONS.

YOU GET PRIORITY, RIGHT? I THINK THAT'S NOT A BAD IDEA.

I DO LIKE OPENING IT UP TO NOT JUST TEACHERS AND LIBRARIANS AND NURSES, BUT POTENTIALLY AUXILIARY STAFF, WHOEVER WE THINK.

I DO THINK THAT WE CANNOT CALL OURSELVES AN UNRIVALED EMPLOYEE FRIENDLY DISTRICT AND NOT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

I'M SAD THAT WE'RE NOT FIRST, FRANKLY, AND THAT ROUND ROCK BEAT US AND PFLUGERVILLE WILL BEAT US AND AISD BUT HERE WE ARE AND WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE AN EARLY ADOPTER.

IT FEELS LIKE I DO WANT MR. HARDEN TO TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT.

IF WE VOTE YES ON THIS, DOES THIS OPEN UP OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE BUILDING TO COME? YES, IT DOES.

SO RIGHT NOW WE JUST HAVE THE CHLOE, BUT POTENTIALLY ONCE WE'RE SORT OF LIKE WELCOMING TO THIS KIND OF PROGRAM, TELL ME WHAT HAPPENS.

TELL US WHAT HAPPENS. SO EACH OPPORTUNITY THAT WE IDENTIFY, WE COME BACK TO THE DISTRICT AND GET EXPLICIT PERMISSION FOR THAT PROJECT.

SO THIS ISN'T A BLANK CHECK TO ALLOW THEM TO GO DO TEN DEALS ON THEIR OWN WITHOUT GETTING YOUR SUPPORT FOR EACH OF THOSE PROJECTS.

THEY HAVE DISCUSSED DOING NEW CONSTRUCTION.

THEY'VE TALKED. THEY'VE BEEN ASKED BY OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS ABOUT BUILDING ON SURPLUS DISTRICT LAND.

THEY'RE OPEN TO DOING THAT.

THEY'RE ALSO OPEN TO FINDING EXISTING PROPERTIES IN THE DISTRICT THAT MEET YOUR CRITERION AND PURSUING THOSE AS WELL, BUT AT EACH OF THOSE STEPS, THEY'RE COMING BACK TO YOU AND GETTING YOUR PERMISSION TO MOVE FORWARD ON ANYTHING THAT THEY DO.

OKAY. SO POTENTIALLY WE WERE SITTING ON LAND.

THAT MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A FUTURE BUILD SITE AS WELL.

OKAY. YES, AND THEN TALK TO US ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS IF WE JUST HAVE ALL OF THIS SPACE AND MAYBE WE RUN OUT OF FOLKS THAT ARE INTERESTED HOW THIS ROLLS OVER TO FIRST RESPONDERS.

SO THIS CONVERSATION STARTS WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

THAT'S THE TARGET THAT THEY'VE IDENTIFIED, BUT THEY'RE OPEN TO PARTNERING WITH ADDITIONAL GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES, INCLUDING THE CITY AND EMPLOYERS OF FIRST RESPONDERS, POLICE, FIRE, EMS, EVERYBODY.

SO I THINK THEY'RE LOOKING TO YOU TO TELL US OR TO TELL THE FOUNDATION WHO YOU WOULD LIKE TO INCLUDE IN THAT PROGRAM, BUT THEY'RE CERTAINLY OPEN TO THAT.

OKAY. THAT'S HELPFUL, AND JUST FOR THE BOARD TO KNOW THAT THIS IS IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THE MONOPOLY ON THIS, WE COULD POTENTIALLY WORK WITH OUR CITIES AROUND THE DISTRICT TO ALSO PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR FIRST RESPONDERS.

I THINK THOSE ARE ALL MY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. YOU'RE WELCOME.

THANK YOU. MS. OROSCO. THANK YOU.

THANKS, MS. COURSON, FOR POINTING OUT ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE DO IN OUR DISTRICT.

I KNOW WE OFTEN HEAR WHY AND WE'VE HEARD SINCE THE LAST MEETING.

WHY WOULD YOU ALL BE LOOKING AT THIS? WHY DON'T YOU ALL JUST PAY MORE AND THEN PEOPLE CAN AFFORD TO LIVE SOMEWHERE? AND IT'S NOT THAT SIMPLE.

WE ACTUALLY HAVE BEEN DEDICATED TO MAKING THIS AN EMPLOYEE FRIENDLY ORGANIZATION BY LIKE YOU TALKED ABOUT EVERY YEAR WE HAVE DONE AN INCREASE.

WE DID A TREMENDOUS INCREASE LAST YEAR WITH 7%, AND WE CONTINUE TO LOOK FOR CREATIVE WAYS TO RETAIN AND RECRUIT OUR EMPLOYEES

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THROUGH OUR EMPLOYEE POLICIES AND INITIATIVES, AND NOW SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

SO IT'S GREAT TO ADD THIS TO OUR TOOLBOX.

ANOTHER WAY FOR US TO RETAIN AND RECRUIT OUR EMPLOYEES.

SO I'M EXCITED ABOUT JOINING THIS PARTNERSHIP AND MOVING FORWARD.

MS. RUNKLE.

YES. I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR PROVIDING THE INFORMATION THAT YOU DID SO QUICKLY FROM LAST WEEK.

I WAS ABLE TO LOOK AT THAT.

I'M HAPPY TO SUPPORT THIS.

AS I SAID LAST WEEK, ANY INITIATIVE THAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE OUR LIVES OR THE LIVES OF OUR STAFF BETTER, WE GREATLY WANT TO DO THAT.

SO I APPRECIATE YOUR YOUR INITIATIVES AND BRINGING THIS FORWARD.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

YEAH. SO I THINK MS. PETREA MENTIONED THERE ARE SOME TAX IMPLICATIONS FROM THIS, BUT I THINK FOR BANG FOR THE BUCK, THIS IS A TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITY FOR SCHOOL DISTRICT EMPLOYEES TO BE ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF SOME LOWERED HOUSING COSTS, AND I ACTUALLY REALLY LIKE THE IDEA OF BEING IN A POSITION WHERE MAYBE WE CAN'T FILL ALL THOSE AND WE CAN REACH OUT TO FIRE POLICE AND WHATNOT.

I THINK I THINK ALL OF THAT IS GOOD.

I LOVE THE IDEA OF THIS AS A RECRUITING TOOL AS WELL FOR HARD TO FILL POSITIONS.

I THINK IT'S FANTASTIC IF WE COULD HAVE THAT JUST IN OUR TOOL BELT AS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE USE, WE'RE ALREADY A GREAT PLACE TO BE AND PEOPLE WANT TO BE HERE, AND THIS IS JUST ANOTHER REASON TO GET SOME WONDERFUL PEOPLE INTO OUR DISTRICT.

SO AL RIGHT OKAY, SO THE SUGGESTED MOTION IS THAT THE HAYS CISD BOARD OF TRUSTEES APPROVE THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN HAYS, CISD AND TEXAS WORKFORCE HOUSING FOUNDATION AS PRESENTED.

MOVED BY MRS. OROSCO, SECONDED BY MR. FLORES. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OKAY, TEAM, WE ARE ON PAGE 60.

[K.6. Consideration and possible approval of the 2023 Bond Schematic Design Package for Improvements at Johnson High School]

THIS IS THE DISCUSSION FOR IMPROVEMENTS AT JOHNSON HIGH SCHOOL.

OUR AUXILIARY EMPLOYEE, JASON ANDRUS, IS WITH US AGAIN TONIGHT.

I WAS JOKING WITH MS. GLORIA TODAY. I WAS ASKING HER FOR WHO THE GUESTS WERE GOING TO BE TONIGHT.

SHE HAD YOUR NAME ON THERE, AND I SAID, HE'S NOT A GUEST.

HE'S A REGULAR.

ALL RIGHT. SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND OPEN THIS UP FOR DISCUSSION.

MRS. RUNKLE. JUST REAL QUICK QUESTION.

WERE WE ABLE TO GET ANY CLARIFICATION ON THAT SIDEWALK THIS AFTERNOON WHEN YOU WERE AT JOHNSON? MAX? YES, THERE'S A SIDEWALK ALL THE WAY AROUND THE SCHOOL FROM THE STUDENT PARKING LOT.

SO THERE'S SIDEWALK ALL THE WAY AROUND THE WHOLE SCHOOL.

OKAY, AND I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY ON THE DAIS, ARE THERE ANY FLOOR TO CEILING GLASS IN THIS JOHNSON SCHEMATIC DESIGN? THERE COULD BE SOME FLOOR TO CEILING GLASS ON THAT BACK ELEVATION COMING IN TO THE MAIN ENTRANCE.

CAN THAT BE CHANGED AT A LATER TIME AFTER TONIGHT? YES. YES, IT CAN.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT.

MS. OROSCO.

OKAY. MRS. RUNKLE. YOU DIDN'T SAY THE NEXT PART.

CAN THAT BE CHANGED WITHOUT A COSTING US ANY MONEY? BECAUSE LAST TIME I WAS IT WAS A LITTLE MACHIAVELLI-ISH, THE WAY THEY WERE PLAYING THAT.

SO DON'T FORGET TO ASK THAT PART.

OKAY? DID YOU HEAR HER? I DID, AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, WE HAVE A SECOND.

WE ALREADY HAD ONE MEETING WITH JERI AND OTHER STAKEHOLDERS.

WE ARE PLANNING TO HAVE ANOTHER ONE AND WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH WINDOW BY WINDOW, DOOR BY DOOR THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE CAMPUS ON ALL PROJECTS, AND IF SHE TELLS US, RAISE IT UP, WE'RE GOING TO RAISE IT UP.

IF SHE TELLS US, GET RID OF THE GLASS, WE'LL GET RID OF THE GLASS.

YES, IT'S ACTUALLY CHEAPER TO DO SOLID WALL THAN IT IS TO DO WINDOWS.

[INAUDIBLE] IF WE GET RID OF WINDOW AND DO SOLID WALL, IT'LL ACTUALLY SAVE YOU A LITTLE MONEY.

PERFECT. THAT'S ALL I HAD ABOUT JOHNSON.

THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU FOR GETTING THAT ON THE RECORD.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE TO GO ON THE RECORD WITH THAT.

MR. SEVERANCE AND MS. PETREA. THANK YOU.

OKAY. I ACTUALLY HAVE TWO QUESTIONS.

I HAVE ONE FOR JASON. I HAVE ONE FOR PATTY AS WELL REGARDING TO JOHNSON.

SO WHEN YOU'RE TAKING ME BACK TO WHEN YOU DID YOUR FIRST DESIGN OF THIS, THE ACADEMIC EXTENSION AND THEN THE FINE ARTS EXTENSION, AND YOU LOOKED AT THE ACADEMIC EXTENSION WHERE YOU'VE GOT 24,000FT² AND YOU'RE ADDING THREE FEMALE RESTROOMS, THREE MEN'S RESTROOMS AND THREE STAFF RESTROOMS

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AND THEN WHEN YOU LOOKED AT THE FINE ARTS EXTENSION, WHICH IS 23,000FT² AND YOU DECIDED WE DIDN'T DO ANY BATHROOM ADDITIONS IN THAT IN THAT SPACE AT ALL FOR THIS, AND I LOOKED ONLINE.

I DIDN'T SEE ANY UPDATES TO THE PLANNING.

SO I GUESS WE DECIDED THAT WE WEREN'T GOING TO DO THAT.

I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THE PHILOSOPHY FOR WHY YOU WOULD ADD NINE RESTROOMS FOR A 24,000 SQUARE FOOT EXPANSION, BUT THEN A 23,000 SQUARE FOOT FINE ARTS EXPANSION.

YOU WOULDN'T ADD ANY RESTROOMS IN THAT PART OF THE BUILDING AS WELL.

YEAH, THE MAIN REASON WAS THAT THE ENTRY POINT TO THE FINE ARTS WING, THERE'S A VERY LARGE RESTROOM THAT'S ACTUALLY MEANT TO SERVE FOR EVENTS, WHICH IS WHY IT'S SO BIG.

THERE'S NOTHING LIKE THAT ANYWHERE NEAR THE ACADEMIC EDITION AS WELL AS THERE ARE OTHER RESTROOMS WITHIN THE FINE ARTS WING AS WELL.

SO THERE'S ONE OFF THE HALLWAY THAT'S CLOSER BY I THINK IT'S GOT LIKE THREE PER GENDER.

THERE'S ALSO SOME IN THE DRESSING ROOMS. DANCE HAS ITS OWN SUITE OF RESTROOMS. THERE WERE JUST A LOT OF EXISTING RESTROOMS THERE, AND WE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH STAFF AND THEY SAID THAT THEY DIDN'T FEEL LIKE THAT WAS NECESSARY.

NO, THAT'S GREAT. I ALSO KNOW THAT ONE OF THOSE RESTROOMS I THINK YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS NOT REALLY CONTROLLED BY THE BAND DIRECTORS FROM A KEY TO BE UNLOCKED OR NOT UNLOCKED.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN COUNT THAT RESTROOM IN THE FOOTPRINT IF THE BAND DOESN'T HAVE ACCESS TO THAT RESTROOM.

SO HOPEFULLY THEY'LL BE ABLE TO GET THAT ACCESS WOULD BE GREAT, AND THEN MY QUESTION FOR FOR PATTY IS WHEN YOU LOOK AT ENROLLMENT NUMBERS IN THAT WHOLE, THAT FINE ARTS, SPECIFICALLY ON THE BAND SIDE.

IN 2021, WHAT WAS THE ESTIMATED NUMBER OF KIDDOS IN THE BAND PROGRAM AT JOHNSON BALLPARK? I LOOKED UP NUMBERS FOR YOU.

IN 2021? YEP.

183. 2022? 232.

2023? 250.

AND THEN PROJECTED 24? THAT'S WHERE, YOU KNOW IT COULD BE.

I'M GOING TO GO OUT ON A LIMB BECAUSE I LOOKED AT MY MIDDLE SCHOOL ENROLLMENTS.

I CAN GIVE YOU THOSE FIRM NUMBERS AT DAHLSTROM, AND MCCORMICK DAHLSTROM HAS 247 STUDENTS.

MAYBE 80 OF THOSE ARE EIGHTH GRADERS.

I DIDN'T DRILL DOWN TO THE GRADE LEVEL, AND THEN MCCORMICK MIDDLE SCHOOL HAS 208 STUDENTS AND MAYBE 70 OF THOSE ARE EIGHTH GRADERS.

THAT WOULD BE 150 POSSIBLE STUDENTS MOVING UP.

WE USUALLY LOSE SOME BETWEEN EIGHTH AND NINTH GRADE I'M GOING TO THROW OUT A ROUND NUMBER.

IF WE KEPT MOST OF THOSE KIDS, MAYBE 400.

COULD BE 400 KIDS. SO I APPRECIATE YOU PROVIDING THOSE NUMBERS AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I'LL JUST SAY IT I'M A BIG BELIEVER OF NOT DOING THINGS, YOU DON'T WANT TO DO THINGS TWICE, AND SO IF OUR BAND PROGRAM ENROLLMENT IS GOING TO MORE THAN DOUBLE AND WE'RE BUILDING A FACILITY AND EXPANSION FOR FINE ARTS AND WE'RE NOT ADDING THE ANCILLARY THINGS FOR LIKE STAFF RESTROOMS, I KNOW OUR STAFF HAS ALREADY AT LEAST MORE THAN DOUBLED, NOR ARE WE ADDING ANY MORE RESTROOMS FOR THAT SPACE.

I JUST WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU THAT WE FEEL CONFIDENT THAT THE SPACE THAT'S AVAILABLE, THE RESTROOM SPACE THAT'S AVAILABLE NOW, THAT WAS WHEN WE BUILT THE HIGH SCHOOL FOR 2250 KIDS IS GOING TO BE ADEQUATE TO SUPPORT A FINANCE OUR FINANCE FINE ARTS PROGRAMS IN THAT WING UNTIL YOU KNOW, FOR THE NEXT FORESEEABLE FUTURE.

YES, THAT WAS THE FIRST THING THAT CAME INTO MY MIND WHEN WE ADDED SQUARE FOOTAGE IS RESTROOMS BECAUSE IT'S SO EXPENSIVE, AND I COME FROM A FAMILY OF CONSTRUCTION.

I RAN A SPREADSHEET, I RAN THE NUMBERS SIDE BY SIDE.

WE HAVE 41 TOILETS IN THE FINE ARTS AREA AT JOHNSON, 12 IN THE HAYS BUILDING AND 16 AT LEHMAN.

SO YOU SAID IT EARLIER, THE ONLY WAY THIS WILL WORK IS IF THE BAND DIRECTORS HAVE A KEY TO THE APPROPRIATE RESTROOMS AND THAT IS BEING ADDRESSED, AND YOU'RE GUARANTEED THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET A KEY TO OPEN UP THAT RESTROOM.

I WENT OVER THERE THIS AFTERNOON.

RIGHT.

GO AHEAD. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT AND I WANT TO SAY THIS, TOO.

REMEMBER THAT WE'RE ADDING A NEW BAND HALL AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO PLAY THE DOMINO EFFECT.

THE ORCHESTRA PROGRAM IS A YOUNG PROGRAM.

IT'S A NEW PROGRAM. IT WON'T TAKE UP ALL FOUR ALL EIGHT PERIODS, AND WE'RE GOING TO SHARE.

IT'S RIGHT THERE IN THE ORCHESTRA HALL IS RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE TWO BAND HALLS.

SO IF ORCHESTRA'S NOT USING THEIR HALL, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT BAND CAN'T.

I MEAN, AND I WOULD EXPECT EVERYBODY TO SHARE AND ACROSS THE BOARD THAT WAY IT IS IDEALLY LAID OUT WHERE THEY'RE ALL IN THE SAME HALLWAY AND THEY COULD EASILY SHARE GOING FROM THE STORAGE ROOM, INSTRUMENT STORAGE ROOM, RIGHT INTO THE ORCHESTRA HALL OR TO THE SECOND BAND HALL OR AROUND THE CORNER TO THE OTHER MAIN NEW ONE.

SO IT'S ALL THE STORAGE AND EVERYTHING.

THE FLOW THERE HAS BEEN ALL BEEN ADDRESSED SO THAT WE COULD SHARE FACILITIES.

ALSO, THE STORAGE WE'VE ADDED IS GOING TO BE PHENOMENAL.

THE SPACE THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO SUPPORT THE PROGRAM IS GREAT.

I JUST DON'T WANT TO COME BACK IN TWO YEARS AND BE LIKE, MAN, I WISH WE WOULD HAVE JUST BUILT MORE RESTROOMS IN BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO NEED THEM.

SO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT INFORMATION, AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR YOU ALL.

THANK YOU, JASON AND MAX.

MS. PETREA?

[01:10:01]

THANK YOU.

YEAH SO ON THE NEXT DESIGN DOCUMENTS THAT WE SEE, THE NEXT ITERATION, IT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL IF WE COULD SEE ON THE ACADEMIC WING THAT FIRST FLOOR WHAT THAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE.

IS IT A COURTYARD? IS IT OPEN? BECAUSE THE LITTLE SCHEMATIC DESIGNS WE HAVE, YOU CANNOT REALLY SEE WHAT THAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE, AND MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING ONLINE THAT I DIDN'T CLICK ON, BUT THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

MS. PETREA, THERE'S NOT, BUT WE THINK WE CAN WALK YOU THROUGH IT ON HERE.

JUST TO SHOW YOU REAL QUICK, BECAUSE WE DID TALK ABOUT IT THAT IT'S NOT SPECIFICALLY SHOWN HERE.

OKAY. I THINK IN GENERAL, WE'RE KIND OF AGAINST FLOOR TO CEILING GLASS AROUND HERE.

YES. SO MAYBE WE NEED TO JUST KIND OF SAY THAT.

I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR MY FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS, BUT I FEEL LIKE THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE MOVING.

ABSOLUTELY. BARBARA, IF YOU COULD GO TO LIKE ONE OF THE VERY LAST SLIDES, IT'S IT'S ONE OF THE RENDERINGS OF THE BACK, BACK OF THE SCHOOL AND MAYBE EVEN THE LAST SLIDE.

SLIDE NUMBER 29, MAYBE.

THE ONE MORE 28. I'M SORRY.

RIGHT THERE. YEP.

SO AND TO ANSWER THE ONE PART OF YOUR QUESTION IS THAT WE WILL HAVE A PROSPECTIVE SHOT OF THAT COURTYARD.

OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT IS CURRENTLY WORKING ON WHAT THAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE AND IT'LL BE MORE FLESHED OUT AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO SHOW YOU A NICE SHOT OF THAT, BUT OUR TEAM'S BEEN TALKING A LOT ABOUT HOW TO HANDLE THE INGRESS AND EGRESS COMING INTO THIS COURTYARD.

WE HAVEN'T SHOWN IT TO DATE WITH THE FENCING AND STUFF YET BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T REALLY SETTLED ON WHAT WE THOUGHT, BUT NOW WE HAVE A STRATEGY THAT WE THINK IS GOING TO WORK REALLY WELL. SO RIGHT NOW THIS IS OPEN, RIGHT? LIKE ALL OF THAT AT THE BOTTOM IS COMPLETELY OPEN.

SO RIGHT NOW, THIS IS YOUR EXISTING CTE WALL THAT EXISTS RIGHT NOW, AND OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE BUILDING THIS NEW THING UP AGAINST IT.

SO WE'RE GOING TO PUT A FENCE RIGHT ACROSS HERE, AND WE DEBATED ABOUT A FENCE HERE AND A FENCE BACK HERE AND SOME THINGS IN BETWEEN, AND THEN WHAT YOU DON'T SEE IS AROUND THE CORNER FROM AROUND THAT CORNER THAT YOU CAN'T SEE RIGHT NOW THAT'S BLOCKED IS ANOTHER SET OF DOUBLE DOORS DIRECTLY OFF THE CORRIDOR.

SO THE STUDENTS WILL HAVE THE OPTION.

THEY CAN EITHER GO STRAIGHT OUT THE DOORS AND THEN THEY'RE OUT IN THE PARKING LOT AREA OR THEY CAN HANG A RIGHT AND GO THROUGH ANOTHER SET OF DOUBLE DOORS AND THEY WILL BE BEHIND THE FENCE IN THE SECURE COURTYARD AREA AND HAVE DIRECT ACCESS TO THE MAIN BUILDING.

SO WHEN I BLEW UP THIS PICTURE REALLY, REALLY BIG, IT LOOKED LIKE RIGHT OUTSIDE OF THE MAIN BUILDING, THERE WAS LIKE MAYBE TEN FEET OF SORT OF OPEN SPACE AND THEN YOU WALKED INTO THE NEW ACADEMIC ANNEX, IF YOU WILL.

SO I THINK THERE'S A PLAN TO MAYBE GATE THAT OR WALL IT OFF OR SOMETHING, BUT YEAH, SO THIS WILL HAVE A FENCE RIGHT ACROSS HERE.

SO THAT'S NOT EVEN NOT EVEN THAT LIKE CLOSE TO THE DOOR, LIKE, SEE WHERE THERE'S AN OPENING RIGHT OUTSIDE THE MAIN BUILDING.

YEAH. IT'S LIKE MAYBE A COURTYARD WHERE PEOPLE EAT.

LIKE RIGHT NOW, PEOPLE GO OUT THERE AND EAT LUNCH, THERE'S TABLES.

SO IS THAT STILL GOING TO BE AVAILABLE? IS THAT SPACE STILL THERE OR ARE WE LOSING KIND OF THAT COURTYARD SPACE? YEAH. SORRY.

I'M STILL. CAN YOU HELP ME WITH THAT ONE? RIGHT THERE. YEP. THAT LOOKS OPEN TO ME.

RIGHT.

MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT THERE WILL BE A FENCE WITH SOME TYPE OF EXIT DEVICE HERE AS WELL AS HERE.

OKAY, SO THEN YOU WILL HAVE A COURTYARD IN THIS AREA.

GOT IT. OKAY. THIS IS NOT NECESSARY IF YOU PUT ONE HERE, BUT IT'S JUST SORT OF AN ADDITIONAL LAYER.

SO IN OTHER WORDS, IF YOU PROTECT THIS AREA, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO PUT A DOOR HERE OR A GATE HERE, BUT YOU [INAUDIBLE] YEAH, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO JUST WALLING EVERYTHING OFF OR I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF WALLING EVERYTHING OFF.

I LIKE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT PUTTING THAT, BECAUSE IF YOU FOR FIRE DRILLS AND FOR WHATEVER, I MEAN, IT'S NOT A BAD IDEA TO HAVE AN EASY EXIT FOR FOLKS COMING OUT OF THAT MAIN BUILDING.

YEAH, THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS TOO MANY GATES AND STUFF TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH TO GET OUT.

YEAH. SO AS LONG AS WE CAN SHUT OFF ACCESS TO THE COURTYARD.

RIGHT? SO IF WE PUT THAT LITTLE SHORT PIECE OF FENCE IN THAT, THAT PLUS THE CTE WALL COMPLETELY SHUTS OFF THE COURTYARD AND THE BUILDING DOES IT ON THE OTHER SIDE.

SO I THINK NEXT TIME WHAT WE'LL DO IS AND ACTUALLY WE CAN EMAIL THIS TO YOU TOMORROW IF YOU WANTED, BUT WE COULD ADD THAT CTE WALL TO THE FLOOR PLAN AND SHOW YOU WHERE THE FENCE AND GATE IS GOING TO BE. SO YOU'LL SEE EXACTLY HOW PROTECTED THAT COURTYARD IS GOING TO BE WITH A--MY BRAIN JUST WANTS TO SEE THAT WHOLE FIRST FLOOR LIKE WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE WHEN I WALK OUT OF THOSE DOORS, BUT MAYBE THAT WILL BE WHAT THE NEXT ITERATION WE CAN PROVIDE WHATEVER GRAPHICS WE NEED TO HELP YOU SEE ALL THAT.

[01:15:06]

SO, OKAY, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BOARD KIND OF SAW THAT TOO, AND THAT CHIEF SKROCKI HAD WEIGHED IN AS WELL ON ANY KIND OF SAFETY IMPLICATIONS, BECAUSE I THINK IT'LL BE GREAT, BUT I KNOW THAT SOMETIMES WE JUST KIND OF SEE WHAT WE SEE AND THEN WE WALK THROUGH IT AND WE'RE LIKE, WHAT? WHY IS THIS OPEN? WHY IS THIS SEPARATED? WE DIDN'T MEAN FOR THAT.

SO I'M GLAD WE'RE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION.

I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU ALL, THE WHOLE TEAM, MR. CLEAVER, MR. ANDRUS, FOR TAKING A BEAT, TAKING SOME TIME TALKING TO MORE FOLKS.

I LOVE THE IDEA OF EVERYONE SIGNING OFF ON THESE PLANS SO THAT THEY CAN'T COME BACK TO US WHEN THEY ARE BEING BUILT AND SAY, I DIDN'T KNOW.

WELL, YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE I MEAN, LISTEN, WE GET IN THE WEEDS.

YOU KNOW, MR. CLEAVER, WE LOOK AT THESE THINGS, I ZOOM IN CLEARLY, I'VE ZOOMED IN ON A LOT OF THESE, BUT I MAY NOT CATCH EVERYTHING, AND I KNOW OUR FOLKS MAY NOT CATCH EVERYTHING, BUT I DO APPRECIATE THAT WE'RE TAKING SOME TIME.

WE'RE LOOKING AT THESE CAREFULLY, AND THIS ISN'T THE LAST OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE CHANGES.

THAT IS CORRECT.

THAT IS CORRECT. ON THE SIGN-IN SHEETS, I OWE YOU THOSE.

I ACTUALLY HAVE HARD COPIES AT MY IN MY FILE HERE.

THE REASON I DIDN'T GIVE THEM TO YOU ONLINE IS IS LATE AS THIS AFTERNOON, I HAD LOOKED AT THE PARTICIPATION AND ONE PERSON HAD PUT.

NO, I'M LIKE, WELL, WHY DID YOU FILL THAT OUT IF YOU? SO IT WAS ONE OF THOSE DOUBLE NEGATIVE QUESTIONS.

IT WAS LIKE, I HAVE LOOKED AT THE DOCUMENT ON THE FBOC WEBSITE AND HAVE HAD INPUT INTO THAT, AND THE ANSWER WAS NO AND THE COMMENT WAS BECAUSE I'VE BEEN AT ALL THE MEETINGS AND SAW IT PERSONALLY IN LIVE, AND SO I WAS LIKE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR LITERAL INTERPRETATION.

LET'S MOVE FORWARD.

OKAY, AWESOME.

MY FINAL COMMENT SLASH QUESTION.

I'M SO GLAD TRUSTEE SEVERANCE BROUGHT THIS UP WITH THE BAND HALL THE LOCKER ROOMS THAT WERE BUILT WITH THOSE BAND HALL ARE RIDICULOUS.

IT'S LIKE A THREE-HOLER AND IT'S 20 BY 20 ROOM AND THE CHILDREN DO NOT FIT IN THERE CURRENTLY AND THEY HAVE TO DO THEIR HAIR AND THEY HAVE TO DO THEIR MAKEUP AND IT'S BANANAS.

SO I'M GLAD THAT YOU BROUGHT UP THAT OTHER RESTROOM BECAUSE IT SEEMS LOGICAL.

THERE IS A GIANT RESTROOM.

IT IS THE BIGGEST RESTROOM I'VE SEEN AT ANY CAMPUS IN OUR DISTRICT RIGHT THERE, RIGHT NEXT TO THE BAND HALL, BUT OUR KIDS DON'T ALWAYS HAVE ACCESS TO IT FOR GOOD REASON BECAUSE WE HAVE OTHER PROBLEMS LIKE VAPING AND FENTANYL AND OTHER CHILDREN MAKING BAD CHOICES.

SO I GET WHY THAT WE DON'T ALWAYS HAVE ACCESS TO THAT.

SO THANK YOU, MS. MORENO, FOR WORKING ON THAT, BECAUSE THERE IS A GATE THAT'S RIGHT IN FRONT OF THAT BATHROOM AND IT WAS ALWAYS MY THOUGHT LIKE, HEY, WHEN IT'S BAND TIME, CAN WE LOWER THAT GATE SO THAT YOU HAVE TO BE IN THE FINE ARTS AREA TO ACCESS THAT BATHROOM? BECAUSE I ALMOST FEEL LIKE THAT BATHROOM WAS BUILT WITH FINE ARTS IN MIND.

I COULD BE WRONG ABOUT THAT, BUT IT'S SO BIG, AND THOSE LOCKER ROOM BATHROOMS WHERE THE CHILDREN ARE SUPPOSED TO BE GETTING READY ARE TINY.

SO ANYWAY, THANK YOU FOR HANDLING THAT BECAUSE I AGREE.

I MEAN, OUR DIRECTORS, TEN YEARS FROM NOW, I DON'T WANT TO BE LIKE, WHAT WERE YOU ALL THINKING? WHY IS THIS LIKE THIS? SO I'M GLAD EVERYONE IS PUTTING THEIR HEADS TOGETHER AND HAVE A SOLUTION FOR SOME OF THOSE ISSUES.

MRS. OROSCO.

I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT WE HAVE THEORY AND PRACTICE, RIGHT? SO IN THEORY AND I'VE NOTICED THIS FROM SOME OF THE EXPANSIONS, IN THEORY IT MAKES SENSE.

THERE'S ENOUGH RESTROOMS, EVERYTHING LOOKS GOOD ON PAPER, BUT IN PRACTICE IT IS NOT PRACTICAL FOR STUDENTS TO USE.

THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH.

A PERFECT EXAMPLE IS A NEGLEY ELEMENTARY EXPANSION WHERE WE DID A RESTROOM THAT'S SHARED BY TWO CLASSROOMS AND IT'S LIKE, WELL, IT MEETS THE STANDARDS, SO IT MEETS THE STANDARDS.

EVERYTHING SHOULD BE SOLID THEN.

WELL, THE REALITY IS YOU HAVE FIFTH GRADERS OR THIRD GRADERS OR WHATEVER, AND IT'S AFTER LUNCH AND EVERYBODY'S FIGHTING FOR THE RESTROOM.

SO THAT IS THE PRACTICAL SIDE OF IT.

SO WHEN MAKING THESE DECISIONS AND I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS YOU BROUGHT UP, MS. PETREA, WAS THE SAFETY AND SECURITY WITH THE WINDOWS AND THE GLASS.

AGAIN, IT LOOKS BEAUTIFUL AND IN THEORY, WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE BEAUTIFUL BUILDINGS, BUT MOST IMPORTANT IS SAFETY, AND SO WE DID ARTICULATE THAT LAST WEEK.

THE MAJORITY OF THE BOARD DID ARTICULATE THAT LAST WEEK, THAT WE'RE NOT ABOUT THAT LIFE, ABOUT THAT BEAUTIFUL LIFE.

WE HAVE TO HAVE A BALANCE, AND HAVING CHIEF SKROCKI REALLY GIVE INPUT ON THAT IS MOST IMPORTANT TO KEEP OUR STUDENTS SAFE, BUT LOOKING AT RESTROOMS AS WELL, WE REALLY NEED TO TAKE THOSE THINGS INTO CONSIDERATION.

[01:20:01]

SO WHEN FBOC MEETS AND THEY'RE LOOKING AT THESE, THINKING ABOUT THAT PRACTICAL SIDE AND GETTING THAT INPUT, THAT END USER, THAT'S GREAT.

WE'RE GETTING INPUT FROM TEACHERS AND STAFF.

HOW ABOUT STUDENTS? GETTING STUDENT INPUT IS SO VALUABLE BECAUSE THEY'RE ACTUALLY THE ONES THAT ARE HAVING TO WAIT IN LINE TO WAIT THE WAIT FOR A RESTROOM WHEN THEY'RE TRYING TO GET READY FOR BAND OR WHEN THEY'RE TRYING TO USE THE RESTROOM AND THERE'S IT'S FIVE DEEP AND THEN THEY DON'T HAVE ACCESS.

THEY NEED A KEYCARD TO GO INTO THE MAIN BUILDING TO GO TO THE COMMON RESTROOMS, BUT THERE'S ONLY ONE KEY CARD.

SO THEN YOU STILL HAVE TO WAIT.

SO AGAIN, HAVING SOME STUDENT INPUT AND STUDENT VOICE IN THIS ASPECT IS NOT A BAD THING.

I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD UTILIZE AND MAYBE START DOING THAT MOVING FORWARD.

OKAY. MAX ON THE SIGNATURE OR THE FORM, BUT THE APPROVAL FORM ARE YOU GOING TO PUT THOSE ON BOARD BLOG ONCE YOU GET THAT ALL? YES, SIR AND I ACTUALLY HAVE HARD COPIES IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM.

BOTH HAD ABOUT 17 PARTICIPANTS.

OKAY. VERY GOOD, AND I THINK THAT WE ALL KNOW THIS.

WE KIND OF TALKED AROUND IT A LITTLE BIT TONIGHT AND SORT OF INDIRECT WAYS, BUT I THINK WE ALL KNOW THAT ALL OF OUR HIGH SCHOOLS ARE GROWING FAST.

I THINK WE'VE ACKNOWLEDGED IN PRIOR MEETINGS WE'RE NOT THROUGH ANY FAULT OF ANYTHING ANYBODY'S DONE, BUT WE FEEL LIKE WE'RE ACTUALLY A LITTLE BEHIND ON THE TIMING OF MAYBE A HIGH SCHOOL FOUR OR WHATEVER THAT LOOKS LIKE.

SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME CROWDED CAMPUSES.

I DISTINCTLY REMEMBER WITH MY KIDS WERE AT HAYS HAVING 3000 PLUS KIDS ON THAT CAMPUS AND A BAND HALL WITH, I DON'T KNOW, SOMETIMES TWO WORKING TOILETS, AND THEY ALL FIGURED IT OUT. SO I THINK THAT I BELIEVE IN OUR CAMPUSES AND OUR KIDS TO WORK TOGETHER TO FIGURE THESE THINGS OUT.

I THINK WE'RE IN A GOOD POSITION TO PROVIDE SOME REALLY NICE FACILITIES FOR OUR STUDENTS.

SO I REALLY LIKE WHAT I SEE AT JOHNSON.

SO OKAY, HERE WE GO.

SO MOVED MOVED BY MS. PETREA, SECONDED BY MR. SEVERANCE. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES.

SEVEN ZERO.

OKAY, WE ARE UP TO PAGE 62.

[K.7. Consideration and possible approval of the 2023 Bond Schematic Design Package for Improvements at Lehman High School]

THIS IS THE SD PACKAGE FOR 2023 BOND IMPROVEMENTS FOR LEHMAN HIGH SCHOOL.

I'M GOING TO OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION.

MRS. RUNKLE. HI AGAIN.

SAME THING. THE FINE ARTS BUILDING STILL HAS GLASS TO CEILING.

CORRECT.

THAT'S JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO SIT DOWN WITH JERI YET.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION.

WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THE ADJUSTMENTS, AND IT'S STILL A CHANGEABLE WALL AFTER TONIGHT.

YES, MA'AM. OKAY.

THANK YOU. MS. PETREA, AND THEN MR. FLORES. YES.

AS BEAUTIFUL AS THE LEHMAN THEATER IS, I WOULD REALLY PREFER THAT MAYBE THE FIRST PANEL NOT BE GLASS.

THAT'S JUST MY PREFERENCE, AND I KNOW THERE'S LOCAL STONE AND YOU GUYS DO A GREAT JOB ARCHITECTURALLY OF DOING SOME THINGS.

THAT WOULD BE MY PREFERENCE.

I WANT THE NATURAL LIGHT, BUT I THINK THE LENGTH OF A PERSON MAYBE TALLER THAN ME NOT SO MUCH GLASS.

THAT'S JUST WHAT I'M FEELING.

MR. FLORES, I'M GOING TO SECOND THAT.

JUST AN ANALYSIS BY BY CHIEF SKROCKI ON THE SAFETY ISSUES REGARDING THE BUILDING, AS GREAT AS IT IS, BUT I WILL SAY THAT I'VE ASKED ABOUT THE MARQUEE AT LEHMAN, WHICH HAS BEEN OUT FOR A WHILE BECAUSE IT WAS HIT BY A ROCK, BUT THIS IS GOING TO BE THE FIRST BUILDING AS YOU GO DOWN BUTTON LANE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE AT LEHMAN HIGH SCHOOL.

SO I'M EXCITED PEOPLE THAT SAW THESE ONLINE DURING THE LAST MEETING AND THE ONE PREVIOUS ARE EXCITED ABOUT IT.

SO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK IN THIS, AND I KNOW THAT THOSE AT LEHMAN ARE GOING TO APPRECIATE THIS.

THANK YOU.

MR. VELA.

YES, AND I MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE A STUDENT THAT'S COMING UP THAT WILL END UP USING THIS FACILITY.

SO THERE'S A LITTLE PERSONAL INTEREST IN THIS ONE.

DEFINITELY. I'M EXCITED, AND I LOVE THE SCHEMATICS THAT WE'VE SEEN, THE DRAWINGS.

I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS I KNOW THAT.

WE'LL TALK TO JERI AND HER TEAM AND EXCUSE ME, CHIEF SKROCKI AND HER TEAM AND JUST REALLY MAKING SURE THAT WE GET TO HAVE THE FUNCTIONAL ASPECT THAT WE NEED, BUT THEN ALSO KEEPING IN MIND THE SAFETY AND SECURITY.

SO THANK YOU. OKAY.

ANYBODY ELSE?

[01:25:02]

ALL RIGHT. THE SUGGESTED MOTION IS THAT THE HAYS CISD BOARD OF TRUSTEES APPROVE THE SCHEMATIC DESIGN PACKAGE FOR 2023 BOND IMPROVEMENTS FOR LEHMAN HIGH SCHOOL FOR AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $69,259,577 AS PRESENTED.

SO MOVED. MOVED BY MR. VELA. SECONDED BY MS. RUNKLE. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

OKAY, WE ARE ON K9, PAGE 75.

SO THIS IS K8.

[K.8. Consideration and possible approval of the 2023 Bond Installation of Artificial Turf at Softball and Baseball fields at Lehman High School]

I'M SORRY.

PAGE 64.

THANK YOU, DR. WRIGHT.

ALSO, I WAS LIKE, I DIDN'T, THAT'S NOT WHAT I READ IN MY HEAD.

OKAY. THIS IS THE POSSIBLE APPROVAL OF THE BOND INSTALLATION, THE 2023 BOND INSTALLATION OF TURF FOR SOFTBALL AND BASEBALL FIELDS AT LEHMAN HIGH SCHOOL.

MR. FLORES.

AGAIN, FIRST OF ALL, WANT TO THANK THE PREVIOUS BOARD MEMBERS FOR MEMBERS THAT AND THOSE WHO PUT TOGETHER THE PROPOSAL FOR THESE TURF FIELDS, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT ONLY GOING TO BE A GREAT SURFACE FOR OUR BALLPLAYERS TO BE ON, THEY'RE ALSO COMING AT A TIME WHEN WHEN KYLE IS VERY SHORT ON WATER, WE'RE HAVING TO BORROW WATER, BORROW WATER IN KYLE, ESSENTIALLY FROM FROM SAN MARCOS, AND THIS IS A TIME WHEN WATER CONSERVATION IS GOING TO BE EVER MORE IMPORTANT, AND PLAYING SURFACES THAT ARE GRASS IS GOING TO BE HARD TO KEEP UP WITH.

SO THANKS AGAIN, AND ALL I ASK, MAX, IS YOU JUST KEEP US UPDATED ON MAKING SURE WE'RE MEETING THAT JANUARY 15TH DEADLINE, AND AGAIN, THANKS.

THANKS TO THOSE WHO PUT THIS TOGETHER, WHO PUT TOGETHER THIS PROPOSAL, AND THEN I'M SURE THE BALLPLAYERS ARE EXCITED.

THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME, AND THE BORING CREW FOR THE ALLIANCE REGIONAL WATER AUTHORITY, THEY HAVE MOBILIZED, AND SO THEY ARE DIGGING THAT TRENCH ACROSS EXCUSE ME, THAT THEY'RE DOING THAT BORE ACROSS LEFT FIELD THERE.

IT'S UNDERWAY RIGHT NOW.

SO WE ARE TRYING TO HIT THAT SCHEDULE.

MR. VELA. ALL RIGHT.

YES, MR. CLEAVER, THANK YOU. ALSO, THANK YOU FOR THAT UPDATE, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT I JUST I WANT TO SAY IT AGAIN THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THINGS ARE LEFT AS THE CONDITION THAT THEY WERE BEFORE THE BORING HAPPENED OR EVEN BETTER BECAUSE, I MEAN, THIS IS DEFINITELY THIS IS A LONG TERM INVESTMENT FOR OUR PROGRAMS, OUR STUDENTS IN THE COMMUNITY AND WE DON'T WANT TO COME BACK LATER ON AND HAVE ALL OF A SUDDEN GROUND IS ON LEVEL OR WHATEVER ELSE HAPPENS WITH UNDERGROUND CONSTRUCTION TYPE STUFF, ESPECIALLY ON THAT SIDE OF 35. YES, SIR.

I HAVE TO LIVE ON. THEY'RE OUT THERE AHEAD OF US.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

MR. SEVERANCE AND THEN MS. RUNKLE. THANKS, MAX.

OKAY, SO I HAVE A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS, AND I'M JUST.

JUST WANT TO START LOOKING AT THE PRICING OF THE PROJECT, AND IT'S A $15 MILLION TOTAL BUDGET, AND THAT'S JOHNSON HIGH SCHOOL, HAYS HIGH SCHOOL.

LEHMAN HIGH SCHOOL.

THE SPORTS LIGHTING, I MEAN, IT'S ALL OF IT, BUT IT'S BROKEN OUT INTO LIKE EIGHT DIFFERENT BUCKETS, AND I'M JUST CURIOUS AS TO WHERE I MEAN, I'VE LOOKED AT THE PARAGON BID PROPOSAL AND I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THE WHERE THE PROJECT IS OVER $3 MILLION.

OKAY. ARE YOU ON PAGE 72? ARE YOU LOOKING ON PAGE 72 BY CHANCE? YEP, I GOT THAT. OKAY.

ON PAGE 72, YOU'LL SEE A SPREADSHEET THAT HAS FOUR YELLOW COLUMNS.

THE COLUMN ON THE LEFT, THAT WAS THE HAYS HIGH SCHOOL AND JOHNSON HIGH SCHOOL BUDGET OR THE APPROVAL, AND IT WAS, AS YOU CAN SEE, $478,000 OVER BUDGET.

THE NEXT COLUMN OVER, THAT'S THE PROPOSAL FOR LHS $7.366 MILLION.

THAT WOULD PUT THAT PARTICULAR PIECE ABOUT $2.5 MILLION OVER BUDGET, AND THEN WE HAVE THE LEHMAN HIGH SCHOOL TRACK AND RETAINING WALL S TILL TO COME. WHAT I DID WAS I PLUGGED THAT IN AS IT WOULD COME IN RIGHT AT BUDGET, ON BUDGET AND THEN ON THE NEXT ONE OVER SPORTS LIGHTING THAT WILL ALSO BE UPCOMING.

I PLUGGED THAT IN WHERE THAT WOULD ALSO BE ON BUDGET.

SO ALL TOLD, THE TOTAL PACKAGE ON THAT FAR RIGHT COLUMN IS $3 MILLION OVER BUDGET BUT THE EACH YELLOW BAR INDICATES OR EXCUSE ME EACH YELLOW COLUMN INDICATES A PARTICULAR PIECE OF THAT PROJECT.

I SEE THAT AND I SEE THAT THE LEHMAN HIGH SCHOOL IS WHERE THE OVERAGE.

THE MAJORITY OF THAT IS ABOUT $2.5 MILLION OVER, AND I'M LOOKING AT THE PARAGON BID THAT THEY REVISED,

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AND I SEE THAT THE HAYS HIGH SCHOOL WOULD SAY, LET'S GO BACK TO THE JOHNSON.

I DON'T SEE THE LEHMAN BID SHEET.

IT STARTS ON FROM PARAGON.

YES, SIR.

ITS ON PAGE 69. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR THE ACTUAL BASEBALL SOFTBALL TURF ITSELF.

AT LEHMAN, RIGHT, BUT IT SAYS HAYS HIGH SCHOOL BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL FIELD PRICING $3.998 MILLION.

I BELIEVE THAT TO BE THAT'S A CUT AND PASTE WORLD ERROR.

SO THAT SHOULD SAY LEHMAN HIGH SCHOOL, AND THIS IS A GREAT TIME TO INTRODUCE THE ENGINEER ON THE PROJECT.

THIS IS JEFF BRESEE FROM CEI SPORTS GROUP, AND SO HE IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT I CAN'T ANSWER.

OKAY, AND SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, SO THE CONSTRUCTION, THE PARAGON SPORTS CONSTRUCTION PROPOSAL IT'S NOT 3.9.

IF YOU GO TO PAGE 70.

YEP. THAT'S THE BUDGETS, AND THAT ALSO SHOWS YOU WHY THE BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL TURF ARE AT $550,000 LEFT.

SO IN OTHER WORDS, IT ON PAGE ON PAGE 69, IT SHOWS THE $3.98 MILLION FOR THE TURF, AND THEN ON PAGE 70, IT SHOWS THE DEDUCT OF 550 FOR THE SELECT FILL.

WE DID A VALUE ENGINEERING ON THE SELECT FILL.

JEFF, TAKE IT AWAY. SO AGAIN, THESE ARE ALSO BUDGETS.

WE TRIED PUSHING THEM VERY HARD ALL LAST WEEK TO GET SOMETHING MORE CONCRETE ON THESE BUDGETS FOR TONIGHT, BUT THEY JUST CALLED BACK ON MY WAY DOWN HERE.

THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO GET THEM IN.

SO HOPEFULLY BY THE NEXT TIME WE GET HERE, THERE WILL NOT BE THESE ALLOWANCES OR BUDGETS FOR THESE ITEMS. WE'LL HAVE MORE CONCRETE NUMBERS, BUT THE TURF WE DO HAVE CONCRETE, THAT BEING THE 3.998442 LESS THE 555.06.

THAT WAS IN VALUE ENGINEERING COMING IN ROUGHLY AT ABOUT A LITTLE UNDER 3.5 TOTAL FOR THE TURF PART OF IT.

THESE OTHER BUDGETS ARE JUST THESE ALLOWANCES WE HAVE BASED ON WHAT WE KNOW SO FAR, THE DUGOUTS, THE CONCESSION, THE BATTING CAGES, UM, OUR NUMBERS WERE HOLDING REALLY AS JUST BUDGETS THAT WE'VE GOT TO TRY AND GET THESE OTHER THINGS DONE IN.

THERE'S STILL JUST A LOT HAPPENING AS WE'VE BEEN RACING THROUGH THIS, SAY LIKE EVEN THE GEOTECH REPORT WAS JUST FINALIZED END OF LAST WEEK.

WE'VE GOTTEN THAT OVER TO THE STRUCTURAL PEOPLE.

THEY'VE GOT TO FINALIZE THEIR STRUCTURAL DESIGN FOR THE BUILDING, FOR THE DUGOUTS AND THOSE STRUCTURAL THINGS.

SO WE KEEP FEEDING AS MUCH INFORMATION AS WE CAN TO PARAGON AS FAST AS WE GET IT, BUT THEY'RE THEN OF COURSE FEEDING IT ON TO THEIR SUPPLIERS AND WE'RE JUST STILL TRYING TO GET IT ALL ROUNDED UP. SO WHERE IN THAT BUDGE IS THE $2.5 MILLION COMING FROM, LIKE WHERE ARE WE OVER? WELL, THIS COMES FROM ADDING UP ALL THIS OTHER THESE, THESE THESE BUDGETS.

SO WHEN YOU ADD UP EVERYTHING WE'VE GOT THE 3.5, WE KNOW THAT HAS TO HAPPEN FOR THE TURF PLUS THE BUDGETS FOR THE LAUNDRY LIST OF OTHER THINGS.

THAT'S WHERE YOU COME IN WITH THE SEVEN TOTAL, WHICH IF THAT SEVEN TOTAL IS ALL WHERE IT COMES IN AND WHAT WE ACCEPT TO DO, THEN WE'RE THEN WE'RE OVER.

THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU TOLD US IT WAS GOING TO BE WHEN WE BONDED THIS OUT TO THE.

WE BONDED THE PROJECT.

YEAH. NOW, WHAT'S SOMETHING CHANGED BETWEEN WHEN WE BONDED IT UNTIL TODAY? I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS FOR $2.5 MILLION IS DIFFERENT, THAT'S ALL.

I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THAT.

SO THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS, AND WHAT WE DISCUSSED AT THE FBOC WAS JUST THE CONTINUING COST OF CONSTRUCTION.

WE I THINK WE HAD A MISS ON THAT BUDGET NUMBER AND THEN THE POOR SOILS AND JEFF CAN ARTICULATE A LOT BETTER THAN I CAN ABOUT THE POOR SOILS.

WE THINK THE POOR SOILS IS PROBABLY ABOUT A MILLION AND A HALF, ABOUT 500,000 PER FIELD BECAUSE IF WE HAD A LITTLE MORE TIME AND WEREN'T TRYING TO HIT THIS SEASON AND WE'RE TRYING TO HIT NEXT SEASON, WE COULD HAVE DONE SOIL, SUBSURFACE INJECTION, BUT THAT TAKES TIME AND IT TAKES A TON OF WATER, WHICH WE DON'T HAVE, AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO ARTICULATE.

STANDARD PRICING WHEN WE PUT ALL THIS TOGETHER HAS BEEN USING WHAT THEY CALL CHEMICAL INJECTION, AND IT'S JUST BECAUSE IT'S REALLY A VERY COST ECONOMIC THING, BUT IT'S A VERY TIMELY PROCESS.

SO IS THIS KIND OF CAME OUT OF THE GATES AND WE HAD TO HIT EVERYTHING BY THE FIRST OF THE SEASON.

WE LOOKED INTO THAT AND WE JUST DON'T FEEL WE HAVE TIME.

IN FACT, WE KNOW IF WE DO THAT, WE'D SAVE A LOT OF MONEY, BUT WE WOULD NOT BE GETTING DONE IN TIME FOR BASEBALL SEASON.

OKAY AND THEN MY OTHER LAST QUESTION WELL, NOT LAST, BUT IT SAYS THE CONCRETE FLATWORK AT 19,944FT² TOTAL FOR $311,000.

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ON PAGE 69 ON YOUR DRAWINGS, YOU HAVE CONCRETE FLATWORK AT OVER 30,000FT².

SO I'M CURIOUS, AS TO WHERE THE INCREMENTAL 11,000, 10,000FT² CONCRETE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO NEED FOR THE PROJECT IS GOING TO BE COMING? WHERE ARE YOU REFERENCING THE 30,000? IT'S JUST ON THE SCHEMATIC.

THE SCHEMATICS GOT IT DRILLED DOWN TO CONCRETE FLATWORK.

SO THAT COULD HAVE BEEN AN EARLIER VERSION.

IT'S ALSO THAT THERE'S A LOT OF RETAINING WALL, THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF.

SO PARAGON MIGHT BE BREAKING THAT OUT INTO DIFFERENT CATEGORIES VERSUS STRUCTURAL VERSUS WHAT THEY CONSIDER FLATWORK.

THERE'S A LOT OF STAIRS; THERE'S RAMPS; THERE'S RETAINING WALLS; THERE'S A LOT OF CONCRETE VARIATIONS GOING ON IN THAT.

SO I'M NOT SURE WHY PARAGON WOULD HAVE A NUMBER LESS THAN WHAT WE'VE GOT ON THERE, BUT THEY'VE GOT TO ACCOUNT FOR ALL OF THE CONCRETE, AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION IS, THERE'S CONCESSION STANDS THAT ARE ALREADY ON PROPERTY RIGHT NOW, I BELIEVE.

IS THERE A CONCESSION BUILDING AND THAT'S STAYING? THAT IS STAYING, AND THEN WE'RE ADDING ANOTHER 2100 SQUARE FOOT RESTROOM BUILDING AND STORAGE.

IS THAT RESTROOM AND MORE CONCESSIONS.

SO THAT IS A NEW RESTROOM AND CONCESSION BUILDING TO BE EQUIVALENT WITH WHAT HAYS AND JOHNSON HAVE IN THE WHOLE PROCESS HERE.

WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO MAKE SURE WHEN WE'RE DONE, ALL THESE SCHOOLS HAVE EQUIVALENT THE EXISTING RESTROOM AND CONCESSION BUILDING IS MORE OF A PORTABLE BUILDING.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT MOVING IT.

WE TALKED ABOUT DIFFERENT THINGS.

WE FIND THE BEST VALUE IS TO LEAVE IT IN PLACE AND REPURPOSE IT AS STORAGE.

THEY WERE QUITE SHORT ON THEIR STORAGE AS WELL SO YOU GUYS WILL BE DESIGNING, YOU'LL BE BUILDING, YOU'LL BE DOING THE CONSTRUCTION ON THAT.

YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO BE REPURPOSING. I DIDN'T SEE ANY DESIGN, I DIDN'T SEE ANY SCHEMATICS OF THAT.

SO YEAH, I'D LOVE TO SEE THAT WHENEVER YOU GET THOSE, IT WOULD JUST BE CONVERTING IT TO STORAGE, BUT WE CAN SHOW YOU WHAT [INAUDIBLE].

OKAY. I MEAN, I THINK THIS IS GREAT.

I LOVE I LIKE TO SEE ALL THIS KIND OF CLEANED UP A LITTLE BIT, BUT THE 2.5 MILLION, I THINK YOU ACCOUNTED FOR ABOUT A HALF MILLION DOLLARS ON THE FIELD.

CONSTRUCTION ESCALATION FOR THE REMAINING.

HOPEFULLY IT'S BETTER THAN WHAT WE THINK IT'S GOING TO BE BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO BE DOING IT SO FAST, YOU'RE JUST GOING TO KNOCK IT ALL OUT, AND THE WATERLINE DIGGING IS STARTING WHEN? THEY HAVE MOBILIZED, THEY'RE GOING NOW GOING NOW ON THE GROUND OVER THERE RIGHT NOW.

OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU.

I WILL ALSO SAY AND PUSHING PARAGON A LITTLE BIT TODAY ON THESE BUDGETS.

I ASKED THEM IF THEY SEE ANYTHING WITH THEM WHERE THEY THINK THE BUDGETS AREN'T GOING TO BE SUFFICIENT AND THEY DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING.

CURRENTLY, WE THINK WE CAN COME DOWN ON ALL OF THEM AS WE TIGHTEN UP INTO EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THEM.

COULD YOU SAY THAT CLOSER TO THE MIC? SORRY WE THINK THAT WE CAN COME.

THOSE BUDGETS WILL BE SUFFICIENT AND THE FINAL PRICING SHOULD BE LESS ON EACH OF THOSE CATEGORIES THAN WHAT WE BUDGETED.

THANK YOU, MS. RUNKLE. LIKE HOW YOU GOT THEM ON THE RECORD ON THAT? NO, BYRON ASKED MY QUESTIONS.

I WAS GOING TO SPECIFICALLY ASK ABOUT WHERE THE OVERAGE WAS COMING FROM, BUT CAN YOU CAN YOU TOUCH A LITTLE BIT ON THE SOIL? BECAUSE I KNOW THAT HAS BEEN AN ISSUE.

SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE KIND OF HEAR THAT CHALLENGE THAT WE'VE HAD.

SURE. EXPANSIVE SOIL IS 80% COMMON ACROSS THE STATE OF TEXAS.

UNLESS YOU'RE IN SELECT AREAS, IT'S VERY CRITICAL.

YOU DO NOT SKIP IT OR IT WILL RUIN YOUR TURF FIELD.

EVERYONE WHO'S TRIED TO CUT THE CORNER ON THAT IS LOST.

SO WE DON'T EVER DO THAT.

THERE'S ABOUT FOUR DIFFERENT WAYS OF GETTING THAT DONE, AND WE ALWAYS WOULD LOVE TO DO THE LEAST COST.

AS INFLATION HAS HIT THE WORLD, THE ONLY THING THAT HASN'T JUST GONE LITERALLY THROUGH THE CEILING IS CALLED CHEMICAL INJECTION, AND IT'S A VERY EFFECTIVE MEANS OF DOING IT, BUT IT'S JUST A VERY SLOW, MESSY WAY OF INJECTING CHEMICALS OVER AND OVER AND OVER INTO THE SOIL AND TESTING AND TESTING AND TESTING UNTIL YOU FINALLY PROVEN YOU'VE CHANGED THE SOIL.

WE'RE DOING THIS IN CANYON RIGHT NOW.

BUDGETS WERE TIGHT AND WE'RE IN OUR FOURTH MONTH RIGHT NOW OF JUST PUTTING CHEMICAL IN THE GROUND.

USUALLY IT'S NOT QUITE THAT LONG, BUT COMMONLY IT'S 2 TO 3 MONTHS OF TIME.

SO WHEN WE LOOKED AT OUR OVERALL TIME TRYING TO GET THREE HIGH SCHOOLS DONE IN FOUR MONTHS, WE JUST DID NOT HAVE THAT OPTION, BUT IT'S CONSIDERABLY LESS MONEY TO GO THAT WAY, BUT THAT SAID, ANOTHER IN FACT, THE MOST SECOND MOST WELL, THE MOST EFFECTIVE WAY TO DO IT IS JUST TO OVER EXCAVATION AND SELECT FILL, BUT THAT'S YOU KNOW, IT'S EXPENSIVE. SELECT FILL HAS BECOME EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE.

SO GIVEN WE HAVE TO DO THAT IN ORDER TO HIT OUR TIMELINE, THAT'S WHERE OUR MONEY INCREASE CAME IN.

I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

MR. VELA. YEAH.

THANK YOU, MS. RUNKLE. I ALSO WANT TO ASK ABOUT SOIL, BECAUSE I'M RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET AND THE GROUND IS COMPLETELY SHIFTED.

SO WHAT KIND OF WHATEVER OPTION WE GO WITH? I KNOW YOU WANT TO GO WITH A COST EFFECTIVE ONE.

WHAT KIND OF STABILITY DOES IT BRING TO THE ACTUAL FIELD ITSELF? SO WITH CHEMICAL INJECTION, YOU'RE CHANGING THE SOIL SO IT DOESN'T EXPAND CONTRACT ANYMORE.

THAT HAPPENS ON A MOLECULAR LEVEL WITH OVER EXCAVATION AND SELECT FIELD.

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YOU'RE JUST ACKNOWLEDGING, WELL, THE SOIL EXPANDS AND CONTRACTS AND 90% OF THAT HAPPENS IN THOSE TOP 2 OR 3FT OF THE SOIL.

SO WE JUST GET RID OF THAT SOIL AND BRING IN BETTER SOIL AND WE JUST BRIDGE OVER THE TOP OF THE EXPANSIVE SOIL DOWN BELOW.

SO IT INVOLVES DIGGING A WHOLE BUNCH OF SOIL OUT AND HAVING TO GET RID OF IT AND BUYING A WHOLE BUNCH OF NEW GOOD SOIL AND BRINGING IT IN SANDY NON-EXPANSIVE TYPE KIND OF STRUCTURAL LOAM OR SOMETHING OF THAT SORT.

YEAH, AND THEN OVERALL, THEN THAT MINIMIZES HOW MUCH THE GROUND WILL MOVE AFTER YOU'VE DONE THAT.

OKAY. THANK YOU. YEP.

THANK YOU ALL. ALL RIGHT, TEAM, WE'RE ON OUR LAST ACTION ITEM FOR TONIGHT ON PAGE 103.

OH, DID I MISS ONE AGAIN? MAN, I'M SKIPPING MY NOTES.

I APOLOGIZE, EVERYBODY.

I KNOW IT'S MY BIRTHDAY.

I'M A LITTLE SCATTERBRAINED. OKAY.

[K.9. Consideration and possible approval of the Release of a Surface Easement on property located between Hays High School and Barton Middle School]

SO, PAGE 75, THEN.

OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION ON THIS ONE? WE TALKED ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT LAST WEEK.

IT SEEMS LIKE A PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.

OKAY SO THE SUGGESTED MOTION IS THAT THE HAYS CISD BOARD OF TRUSTEES APPROVED THE RELEASE OF SURFACE EASEMENT ON PROPERTY LOCATED BETWEEN HAYS HIGH SCHOOL AND BARTON MIDDLE SCHOOL AS PRESENTED.

MOVED BY MRS. OROSCO, SECONDED BY MR. VELA. ANY DISCUSSION? MS. PETREA? I JUST WANT TO THANK THE LANDOWNER WHO I KNOW IS HERE TONIGHT FOR HIS CONTINUED PARTNERSHIP WITH OUR DISTRICT AND FOR PUTTING UP WITH US BEING LANDLOCKED BETWEEN US.

WE APPRECIATE YOU VERY MUCH, AND I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THIS UP TO US.

IT SOUNDS LIKE MAYBE YOU HAD TO INITIATE IT.

I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT, BUT GLAD WE'RE DOING THIS TONIGHT.

THANK YOU, MS. PETREA, FOR POINTING THAT OUT.

IT WAS FUN SEEING SOME DOCUMENTS DATED IN THE 90S AS WELL.

SO THAT WAS FANTASTIC.

OKAY, SO ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? NONE. MOTION CARRIES.