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>> ALL RIGHT, EVERYBODY, GOOD EVENING,
[A. CALL TO ORDER: Establish a quorum]
AND WELCOME TO OUR JANUARY 23RD, 2025 BOARD WORKSHOP MEETING OF THE HAYS CISD BOARD OF TRUSTEES HERE AT THE MEREDITH KELLER BOARD ROOM.WE APPRECIATE EVERYBODY HERE IN ATTENDANCE, AND THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE LISTENING ONLINE.
THIS MEETING IS OFFICIALLY CALLED TO ORDER.
ALL BOARD MEMBERS ARE PRESENT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF TRUSTEE FLORES, WHO'S A LITTLE BIT UNDER THE WEATHER, SO WE DEFINITELY WISH HIM WELL.
OUR FIRST AGENDA ITEM IS OUR PUBLIC FORUM.
[B. PUBLIC FORUM #3 - Proposed School Building Bond Election for May 2025]
FOR THE NUMBER 3 PROPOSED SCHOOL BUILDING BOND ELECTION FOR MAY 2025.MS. GLORIA, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS? WE DO NOT. THANK YOU.
NOW WE'RE GOING TO GO TO AGENDA ITEM C, WHICH IS OUR CLOSED SESSION.
[C. CLOSED SESSION]
AT THIS TIME, THE BOARD WILL ADJOURN TO A CLOSED SESSION IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT, TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551 SUBCHAPTERS D AND E FOR TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 418.183F.GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY. WE ARE BACK IN OPEN SESSION.
[D. RECONVENE IN OPEN SESSION]
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US AGAIN TONIGHT, WHETHER YOU'RE IN PERSON OR ONLINE.A QUORUM HAS ALREADY BEEN ESTABLISHED.
AT THIS TIME, WE WILL DO OUR PLEDGES,
[E. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO UNITED STATES AND TEXAS FLAGS]
LED BY BOARD VICE PRESIDENT VANESSA PETREA.THANK YOU, MS. PETREA. OUR MISSION STATEMENT
[F. MISSION STATEMENT]
WILL BE READ BY BOARD VICE PRESIDENT BYRON SEVERANCE.>> HAYS CISD MAKES IT 100% POSSIBLE.
>> THANK YOU, MR. SEVERANCE AND TONIGHT,
[G. SOCIAL CONTRACT]
OUR SOCIAL CONTRACT WILL BE READ BY TRUSTEE GEOFF SEYBEL.>> THE BOARD WILL SERVE AS DISTRICT AMBASSADORS, ASSUME POSITIVE AND NOBLE INTENTIONS, COLLABORATE AS A TEAM AND RESPECT THE BODY CORPORATE, PROMOTE DISCUSSION AND VALUE EACH OTHER'S PERSPECTIVES, BE PROFESSIONAL.
>> THANK YOU, MR. SEIBEL. TEAM THAT TAKES US TO LETTER 8 OF OUR AGENDA,
[H. SUPERINTENDENT REPORT]
OUR SUPERINTENDENT REPORT, DR. WRIGHT.>> THANK YOU, SIR. GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.
WE HAVE SEVERAL HIGHLIGHTS TONIGHT THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SHOWCASE.
WE HAD THE MOST ALL STATE MUSICIANS FOR A ONE YEAR PERIOD THAT WE'VE EVER HAD.
YOU CAN SEE THE INDIVIDUALS HERE.
WE HAD THREE IN CHOIR AND THREE IN BAND.
CONGRATULATIONS TO EACH ONE OF THESE INDIVIDUALS. VERY PROUD OF YOU.
[APPLAUSE] NEXT, WE HAD TWO OF OUR CHEER TEAMS MADE THE STATE FINALS, AND JOHNSON ACTUALLY FINISHED FOURTH OUT OF 75 SCHOOLS, AND IT WAS THE HIGHEST RATED CHEER SQUAD THAT WE'VE EVER HAD AT THE STATE CHEER COMPETITION.
CONGRATULATIONS, JOHNSON CHEER.
THEN THE HAYS HAWK CHEER TEAM ALSO MADE THE STATE FINALS AND FINISHED 11 OUT OF 73 TEAMS. THEY CONSISTENTLY HAVE MADE THE FINALS AND HAVE PERFORMED AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL AND SO CONGRATULATIONS TO THE HAWK CHEER TEAM.
NEXT, THE LAYMAN POWER LIFTING TEAM TOOK HOME THE HONORS FOR FIRST PLACE IN THE MOST RECENT POWER-LIFTING MEET.
AS YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE A STANDING TRADITION.
THEY'VE WON MULTIPLE STATE CHAMPIONSHIPS OVER AT LAYMAN AND POWER LIFTING, AND OBVIOUSLY THAT SUCCESS CONTINUES SO CONGRATULATIONS, LAYMAN POWER-LIFTING.
NEXT, OUR CTE DEPARTMENT PUT ON AN AWESOME CAREER ON WILLS DAY OVER AT OUR PERFORMING ARTS CENTER, AND WE HAD DIFFERENT CAREERS REPRESENTED FROM ALL AROUND THE COMMUNITY, AS WELL AS OUR DIFFERENT CTE INSTRUCTORS THAT WERE ABLE TO INTRODUCE THESE SPECIFIC COURSES TO OUR CURRENT EIGHTH GRADERS AND INCOMING FRESHMAN FOR NEXT YEAR.
I JUST LOVE THE EFFORT AND ALL THE TIME THAT OUR CTE STAFF PUT INTO THIS BECAUSE, WE TALK ALL THE TIME ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF ADVISING SO THAT KIDS KNOW WHAT OPTIONS ARE AVAILABLE TO THEM, AND A LOT OF TIMES KIDS JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY DON'T KNOW, AND EVENTS LIKE THIS HELP THEM TO UNDERSTAND.
THANK YOU, MR. BOU AND STAFF FOR CARRYING ON A GREAT TRADITION CAREERS ON WILLS DAY.
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NEXT, I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THE COOLEST PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE OUR REALTOR PROGRAM, EDGAR RAMIREZ FROM JOHNSON HIGH SCHOOL, JUST PASSED ALL THE SECTIONS TO BE A LICENSED REALTOR.I BELIEVE HE'S OUR SECOND OR THIRD IN THE HISTORY OF THE PROGRAM.
I'M GUESSING THAT HE'S ALREADY 18 BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO BE AT LEAST 18 IN ORDER TO PRACTICE, AND SO HE IS LICENSED.
IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN A PURCHASE, EDGAR WILL HOOK YOU UP.
THEN NEXT, AND I KNOW ALL OF YOU UP HERE ALWAYS HATE WHEN I DO THIS.
BUT JANUARY IS SCHOOL BOARD APPRECIATION MONTH, AND WE APPRECIATE YOU EVERY SINGLE DAY OF THE YEAR, BUT WE HIGHLIGHT YOU IN THE MONTH OF JANUARY, YOUR SELFLESS DEDICATION AND WORK TO TAKE CARE OF OUR KIDS AND OUR STAFF IS COMMENDABLE.
I CAN ATTEST THAT EACH OF YOU HAS A HEART TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT BY OUR KIDS, AND ALL THE DECISIONS THAT YOU MAKE ARE ALWAYS IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF OUR CHILDREN.
IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE FOR ME TO WORK WITH YOU AND THANK YOU.
WE HAVE GIFTS FOR YOU OVER ON THE TABLE.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO BRING THOSE UP RIGHT NOW IN THE SPIRIT OF TIME.
BUT I THINK YOU'RE REALLY GOING TO LIKE WHAT'S IN THE BAG.
BARBARA AND CONNIE PICKED THOSE OUT, AND GO PUT MY STAMP OF APPROVAL ON THERE, TOO.
HOPEFULLY YOU WILL LIKE IT, AND IT'LL BE A SURPRISE.
WHENEVER WE TAKE A BREAK OR THE MEETING ENDS, MAKE SURE YOU GO OVER THERE AND CHECK THAT OUT.
LET'S GIVE THEM A ROUND OF APPLAUSE.
[APPLAUSE] THANK YOU, BOARD MEMBERS. THEY OFTENTIMES GET CALLED WITH ALL THE THINGS THAT AREN'T WORKING WELL, AND THEY USUALLY DON'T GET TOLD VERY OFTEN THAT THEY'RE DOING A GREAT JOB.
AS YOU KNOW, THIS IS A VOLUNTEER POSITION.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND EFFORT, ONCE AGAIN, AND YOU ARE APPRECIATED.
BARBARA, WHAT'S NEXT? GOOD. ENROLLMENT, AS OF TODAY, 24,400 STUDENTS, ATTENDANCE IS 93.86%, AND PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ASKING ME ABOUT OUR WEATHER DAY THAT WE HAD TO TAKE FOR INCLEMENT WEATHER ON TUESDAY.
WE HAVE ENOUGH BANK MINUTES SO THAT OUR STUDENTS WON'T NEED TO MAKE THAT DAY UP AT THIS POINT.
WE WILL HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM FOR NEXT MONDAY'S MEETING TO PAY ALL THE STAFF BECAUSE OF THE DAY THAT'S MISSED TO MAKE THEM WHOLE.
JUST KNOW THAT THAT WILL BE FORTHCOMING AND I WANTED THE STAFF TO BE ABLE TO HEAR THAT THAT WILL BE CONSIDERED ON MONDAY AS WELL.
>> THANK YOU, DR. WRIGHT. TEAM I'M LOOKING AT MY LEFT.
ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? LOOKING RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR THAT REPORT, DR. WRIGHT.
I WAS TOLD TO ASK IF YOU EVER DO PICTURES, MAKE SURE TO LET US KNOW IN ADVANCE BECAUSE ANYWAYS.
ALL RIGHT TEAM, WE ARE ON LETTER I, OUR PUBLIC FORUM.
[I. PUBLIC FORUM ]
MS. GLORIA, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS TONIGHT? NO, WE DO NOT HAVE ANY SHEETS, MAYBE NEXT TIME.THAT TAKES US TO LETTER J ON PAGE 10,
[J. PUBLIC HEARING - Texas Academic Performance Reports]
OUR PUBLIC HEARING FOR OUR TEXAS ACADEMIC PERFORMANCE REPORTS.MR. MALOUGUCO IS GOING TO GIVE US AN OVERVIEW, AND TEAM, WE DO HAVE THE PRESENTATION IN OUR DIAS FOLDERS.
>> I THINK THIS IS ON. GOOD EVENING.
PRESIDENT VELA, DR. WRIGHT, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
THANK YOU FOR SERVING OUR COMMUNITY.
THIS IS A SECOND GIFT, THE TAPER REPORT THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO GIVE YOU ALL.
THE TEXAS EDUCATION CODE, 39.306, REQUIRES EACH DISTRICT'S BOARD OF TRUSTEES TO PUBLISH THIS ANNUAL REPORT.
FEEL FREE TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS AS WE GO THROUGH IT, BUT WE'LL TAKE QUESTIONS AT THE END AS WELL.
THIS IS A LINK LIST TO THE APPROPRIATE REPORTS REQUIRED IN THE TEXAS EDUCATION CODE.
FOR YOUR CONVENIENCE, WE ALSO GIVE YOU ALL THE TAPER GLOSSARY.
THE TAPER IS ALWAYS THE FIRST PART OF THE ANNUAL REPORT.
AS YOU KNOW, DUE TO THE SECOND EIGHTH YEAR OF LAWSUIT, DISTRICTS AND CAMPUSES ACROSS THE STATE HAVE NOT BEEN ASSIGNED AN ACCOUNTABILITY GRADE FOR THE SECOND YEAR IN A ROW.
AS SHOWN ON THIS, OUR SPECIAL EDUCATION DETERMINATION STATUS OF NEEDS ASSISTANCE IS HIGHLIGHTED HERE.
THIS ALWAYS JUST SHOWS UP ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THE TAPER IF WE HAVE THOSE LABELS.
MS. VELASQUEZ AND HER TEAM ARE UP TO DATE WITH THE SUBMISSIONS TO TEA, AS COMMUNICATED IN THE RDA BLOCK BOARD THAT WE SHARED LAST MONTH.
WE ARE WORKING ON THAT. SHE DIDN'T WANT US TO SHARE THE AREAS THAT WE STRUGGLED WITH
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LAST YEAR THAT LED US TO BEING ON THAT REPORT WAS FIFTH AND EIGHTH GRADE SCIENCE AND EIGHTH GRADE SOCIAL STUDIES.I THINK SOMEBODY ASKED THAT QUESTION EARLIER TODAY.
I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR ON THAT.
NEXT. THIS IS REALLY JUST A REMINDER WHEN WE DO THIS REPORT EVERY YEAR.
FOR THE TAPER, THIS IS DATA THAT WE'VE ALREADY SHARED, SO THIS IS NO NEW DATA REALLY OVER THE SUMMER AS STAR RESULTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT COME IN AS WE'RE SETTING OUR BOARD GOALS FOR THE FOLLOWING YEAR.
WE'VE LOOKED AT ALL OF THIS DATA BEFORE.
THE NEXT SECTION IS THE PEIMS FINANCIAL STANDARDS REPORT, WHICH ARE PREPARED BY THE TEA DIVISION OF SCHOOL FINANCE.
THIS IS SHARED ANNUALLY WITH THE BOARD AS PART OF THE BOARD ADOPTION PROCESS AT THE DISTRICT AND CAMPUS LEVELS.
FOR THIS REPORT, THIS WOULD BE FINANCIAL DATA APPROVED BY THE BOARD IN THE FALL OF 2022.
THIS THE 2023 FIRST STANDS FOR FINANCIAL INTEGRITY RATING SYSTEM OF TEXAS.
OUR RATING WAS A SUPERIOR, AND THAT INCLUDES THE 2022 ACCOUNTABILITY RATING OF A B.
THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS THAT TEA DID NOT ASSIGN ACCREDITATION STATUSES FOR ANY SCHOOL DISTRICTS FOR THE '23, '24 SCHOOL YEAR.
BUT WE'RE JUST SHOWING ON THIS ONE THAT FOR '22, '23, WE RECEIVED THE HIGHEST RATING OF BEING ACCREDITED.
INCLUSION OF OUR CAMPUS IMPROVEMENT PLANS IS A REQUIREMENT IN OUR ANNUAL REPORT.
AS YOU KNOW, SIPS ARE APPROVED BY THE BOARD EACH FALL.
THE FIFTH REPORT, OR THE FIFTH PART OF THE REPORT IS INFORMATION ON VIOLENT AND CRIMINAL INCIDENTS.
JUST GOING TO GO THIS NEXT SLIDE HERE.
LAST YEAR, WE REPORTED 15 INCIDENTS DISTRICT WIDE, AND THAT NUMBER JUST HAPPENED TO STAY THE SAME FOR 15 DISTRICT WIDE ON THIS YEAR'S ANNUAL REPORT.
A GOOD NOTE ON THIS AS COMPARED TO LAST YEAR.
THE FENTANYL INCIDENTS DID HAVE DECREASE KNOCKING ON ALL THE STUFF. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS WOOD.
BUT IN ANY YEAR, WE ALWAYS PRIDE OURSELVES ON THE HARD WORK, OUR CAMPUS ADMINISTRATORS, COUNSELORS, SROS, TEACHERS, AND PARENTS DO ALL THAT GREAT WORK TO KEEP OUR STUDENTS SAFE.
NEXT, WE HAVE OUR STUDENTS PERFORMANCE IN POST SECONDARY INSTITUTIONS, REPORT FOR OUR CLASS OF 2022.
THE DATA IS ON THIS NEXT SLIDE.
THIS DATA IS COMPILED BY THE TEXAS HIGHER EDUCATION COORDINATING BOARD.
THE MOST CURRENT REPORT THEY OFFER IS FOR THEIR CLASS OF 2022, BECAUSE THIS REPORT IS SO LAGGING, WE WON'T SEE THE EFFORTS OF OUR CURRENT SENIORS UNTIL JANUARY OF 2028.
LOTS OF LAGGING DATA. LAST YEAR, WE STARTED ADDING THIS BONUS SLIDE. I LIKE THIS SLIDE.
THIS SHOWS WHERE OUR CLASS OF 2023 ENROLLED IN THE STATE OF TEXAS IN THE FALL OF 2023.
WE ALSO GOT A QUESTION ON THE NOT TRACKABLE STUDENTS DID SOME MORE DIGGING.
ROUGHLY, 8-10% OF EVERY GRADE LEVEL.
WE'RE GOING TO SEE THIS PROBABLY SIMILAR NUMBERS CONTINUE IN THE FUTURE.
THOSE STUDENTS DON'T HAVE A STANDARD SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER.
THEY HAVE WHAT WE CALL THE S-PEIMS NUMBER.
THOSE ARE THE NOT TRACKABLE STUDENTS THERE.
ALSO LIKE ON THIS REPORT THAT THE HORNS BEAT THE AGS AND FOOTBALL THIS YEAR, AND THEN UT ALSO WON FOR THE CLASS OF 2023.
THIS IS A GOOD REPORT. THAT WAS A JOKE.
GETTING CLOSE. I'M GETTING CLOSE TO THE END.
THIS SHOWS THAT WE SHARED OUR PROGRESS IN MEETING THE HOUSE BILL 3 REQUIRED BOARD GOALS, WHICH WE REVIEWED IN AUGUST AND WERE APPROVED IN SEPTEMBER.
THEN THE LAST PIECE IS THE TAPER GLOSSARY.
ALL OF THIS STUFF WILL BE POSTED ON OUR DISTRICT SITE SOON.
AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE, AND WE'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
TEAM, I'M GOING TO LOOK TO MY RIGHT FOR ANY QUESTIONS. MS. PETREA.
>> I ASK THIS EVERY YEAR ABOUT THE NOT FOUND NOT TRACKABLE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR INSIGHT ON THE NOT TRACKABLE.
THE NOT FOUND 896 FEELS LIKE A LOT.
I JUST KNOW THAT WE CAN BE DOING MORE TO CAPTURE THESE FOLKS.
I FEEL LIKE AS PART OF THE GRADUATION REQUIREMENTS, WE NEED TO JUST CAPTURE THEIR EMAIL AND THEIR CELL PHONE NUMBER BECAUSE THEY ALL HAVE ONE.
TO ME, IT'S INEXCUSABLE THAT WE'D HAVE THAT MANY.
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MY DAUGHTER IS GRADUATING IN 2025, AND I KNOW WHERE SHE'LL BE IN 2028.CALL ME IF YOU NEED TO KNOW WHERE SHE IS.
BUT A LOT OF TIMES, THE ONLY EMAIL WE HAVE FOR THEM IS THE DISTRICT EMAIL.
THERE'S GOT TO BE A MECHANISM BY WHICH WE CAN CAPTURE WHERE THEY ARE, BECAUSE THEY MAY BE IN THE MILITARY.
I FEEL LIKE WE COULD BE OR, I JUST FEEL LIKE CAN WE CAN DO BETTER HERE.
I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT NUMBER GO DOWN IN MY TIME ON THE BOARD.
MS. DIO, YOU'RE GOING TO SAY SOMETHING.
>> NO MS. PETREA, AND I THOUGHT OF YOU WHEN I SAW THE QUESTION FROM MR. SEIBEL. YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
WE TALKED ABOUT THIS YESTERDAY JUST BECAUSE I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN SUPER IMPORTANT TO YOU SINCE I HAVE STARTED SERVING IN THIS POSITION.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO SOMETHING IN TERMS OF THE KIDS THAT WE CANNOT FIND AND WE'RE NOT TRACKING.
EVEN IF THEY DON'T WANT TO PROVIDE US WITH AN E-MAIL, WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING, WHETHER IT'S HIRE PERSONNEL TO HELP AND/OR MAYBE GIVE SOMEONE THE RESPONSIBILITY WITHIN OUR TEAM TO TAKE ON THIS TASK.
AS A TEAM, WE TALKED ABOUT IT YESTERDAY JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN THEN COME BACK WITH A BETTER RESPONSE AND ACTUALLY SEE THOSE NUMBERS BE REDUCED.
>> SOMEONE COULD JUST ADD THEM ON SNAPCHAT AND WE COULD TRACK THEM THAT WAY. TOTALLY JOKING.
>> HOPEFULLY THEY'RE OFF OF SNAPCHAT.
BY THE TIME THEY GRADUATE, PROBABLY NOT, THOUGH.
THANK YOU FOR THAT. I APPRECIATE MS. DIO, YOUR EFFORTS THERE.
IT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF WORK LOGISTICALLY.
BUT AS A FIRST STEP, IF THERE WAS SOME GOOGLE FORM AS PART OF THE GRADUATION REQUIREMENTS, I'M LOOKING AT MY DAOS.
WHAT'S YOUR PERMANENT EMAIL ADDRESS? WHAT'S YOUR CELL PHONE NUMBER? MY CELL PHONE NUMBER HAS NOT CHANGED EVER SO 20 SOMETHING YEARS.
I DON'T KNOW. THANK YOU FOR YOUR EFFORTS THERE.
>> I WOULD JUST SAY THAT WITH THAT, THIS REPORT IS STILL PROBABLY GOING TO LOOK EXACTLY THE SAME BECAUSE THIS IS FROM A DIFFERENT PART OF TEA.
THE NOT FOUND, THOSE ARE KIDS THAT GOT A JOB IMMEDIATELY AFTER HIGH SCHOOL, WENT TO COLLEGE IN ANOTHER STATE.
THERE'S DIFFERENT THINGS THAT PLAY INTO THAT PARTICULAR NUMBER BUT LIKE MS. SADIO SAID, WE COULD DO SOME OTHER THINGS ON OUR SIDE TO FOLLOW UP THE KIDS.
>> MAYBE IF JUST THE BOARD GETS OF THOSE, WE KNOW THAT THE BREAKDOWN IS THIS.
I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE YOU DON'T HAVE ON THE TAPE A REPORT OF THEY'RE EMPLOYED.
WE FOUND THEM, BUT THEY'RE NOT OUT OF COLLEGE OR THEY'RE NOT IN THE MILITARY. I DON'T KNOW.
>> I'LL HAVE TO CHECK TO SEE IF WE DO CAPTURE A PERSONAL EMAIL IN SCHOOL LINKS BECAUSE IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING WITH THAT SENIOR SURVEY.
I'D HAVE TO GET WITH DR. WATSON SINCE HE IS MUCH MORE FAMILIAR WITH WHAT WE ASK.
THAT MIGHT BE ANOTHER WAY THAT WE ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING WITH THE POST HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATION.
>> TEAM, DR. WRIGHT WANT'S TO CHIME IN.
>> I HAD OUR MONTHLY COMMISSIONER FROM TEA'S CALL TODAY WITH SUPERINTENDENTS AND TO ANSWER ONE QUESTION, AFTER SEVEN YEARS, THEY FINALLY GOT THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE TO SUBMIT ALL THE INFORMATION FOR THOSE THAT ARE IN THE MILITARY BEFORE.
WE HAD TO FILL OUT THE FORM AND CHASE KIDS DOWN.
NOW THAT WILL BE DIRECT FROM DOD TO TEA BACK TO US.
THAT'S A SMALL VICTORY, SO I JUST WANT TO SHARE THAT.
>> THANK YOU, DR. WRIGHT. MS. ROSCO?
>> THANK YOU FOR PRESENTING TONIGHT.
JUST TO PIGGY-BACK OFF OF WHAT MS. PETREA SAID, I LOVE THE IDEA OF A SENIOR EXIT SURVEY OF SOME SORT.
THE STUDENTS, THEY'RE COMPLETING THINGS AT THEIR SENIOR YEAR AND FILLING THINGS OUT.
WHAT'S ONE LITTLE SIMPLE SURVEY AND MAKING THAT A REQUIREMENT? BUT ALSO, YOU GUYS SEND US PARENTS EMAILS ALL THE TIME.
WE HAVE ACCESS TO TEAMS. WE HAVE WAYS TO ALSO ANSWER THINGS IF WE KNOW WHERE OUR CHILD IS GOING, WE CAN ALSO BE THE ONE TO HELP ANSWER THAT IF YOU GUYS ARE MISSING THAT.
EVEN JUST A SIMPLE EMAIL TO THE GUARDIANS PROBABLY WOULD HELP.
I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE SPECIAL EDUCATION PERFORMANCE REPORT.
CAN YOU TELL ME AGAIN, YOU SAID 5TH AND 8TH GRADE SOCIAL STUDIES?
>> FIFTH AND 8TH GRADE SCIENCE AND THEN 8TH GRADE SOCIAL STUDIES.
>> SORRY. SAY THAT AGAIN, SOCIAL STUDIES?
>> EIGHTH GRADE SOCIAL STUDIES.
I KNOW MRS. VELASQUEZ ISN'T HERE TONIGHT, BUT MRS. SEDILLO, MAYBE YOU CAN HELP ANSWER THIS.
HOW IS SHE TRACKING THAT DATA AND CURRENTLY CONSISTENTLY TRACKING IT TO ENSURE THAT WHERE WE ARE WITH SPED, WE ARE INTERNALLY IMPROVING IN THE NEEDS THAT WE NEED TO IMPROVE IN?
>> I'M GOING TO INFER HERE BECAUSE I HAVE NOT LOOKED AT THE PLAN THAT SHE'S DEVELOPED AND SUBMITTED TO TEA.
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IT WAS SOMETHING THEY WORKED ON.BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT IT'S REALLY MORE AROUND MAKING SOME INSTRUCTURAL ADJUSTMENTS AND HOW WE'RE SERVING OUR KIDS TO BETTER IMPROVE SCORES.
IT'S REALLY THE MONITORING OF ACADEMIC PERFORMANCE ON ANY DISTRICT ASSESSMENT OR ANY CAMPUS ASSESSMENT.
IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'D LIKE TO GET A COPY OF THAT AND REALLY FIND OUT EXACTLY WHAT SHE'S GOT OUR TEACHERS DOING, BECAUSE IT'S REALLY ABOUT OUR SCORES DIPPING IN THOSE AREAS.
A LOT OF OUR KIDS MAY BE IN THE GENED CLASS, WE MAY JUST NEED TO DIFFERENTIATE BETTER TO HELP SERVE THOSE KIDS, MAKE THE ACADEMIC PROGRESS THAT THEY NEED.
IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'D LIKE TO GET BACK WITH YOU ON THAT SO I CAN GIVE YOU A BETTER RESPONSE.
>> ABSOLUTELY AND WE DO HAVE THAT SPECIAL EDUCATION INFORMATION ITEM ALSO THAT WE'VE KEPT AS A RECURRING ON OUR AGENDA.
WE CAN ALSO INCLUDE THAT IN THAT REPORT WHEN YOU GUYS GIVE IT TO US AS WELL.
>> THAT'D BE GREAT [INAUDIBLE]
>> ALSO, I LOVE THE NEW REPORT OF WHERE ALL OF OUR KIDS ARE GOING.
NOW THAT WE HAVE IT, WE'RE GOING TO WANT TO SEE IT IN GRAYS. GREAT JOB.
THANKS FOR PRESENTING ALL THIS TO US.
IT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION, A LOT OF DIFFERENT MOVING PARTS.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR RIGHT NOW.
BUT I DO LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING THAT SPECIAL EDUCATION REPORT FROM YOU MRS. SEDILLO. THANK YOU.
>> YES. THANK YOU. CAN YOU ACTUALLY SHARE THAT PLAN? I KNOW WE HAVE BEEN DESIGNATED AS NEEDING ASSISTANCE IN SPECIAL EDUCATION OR CTE, WE HAVE RECEIVED THE PLAN.
I KNOW BEFORE WHEN WE WERE IN THAT SAME CIRCUMSTANCE, THEY DID HIRE INSTRUCTIONAL COACHES TO ASSIST IN THAT PLAN AND MAKING SURE TO IMPLEMENT BEST STRATEGIES FOR OUR SPECIAL EDUCATION STUDENTS.
I'M VERY INTERESTED IN READING THAT PLAN.
IF YOU CAN PROVIDE THE PLAN FROM BEFORE THAT TOOK US OUT OF THAT ASSISTANCE NEEDED, I THINK THAT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL TO SEE IF THERE'S PARALLELS OR WHAT.
THAT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO SEE.
THE OTHER THING NOW WITH THE CHANGES IN CCMR AND CAPTURING THOSE POINTS AND EVERYTHING, MORE THAN EVER, IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO FIND OUT WHERE IT HAPPENS TO OUR KIDS AFTERWARDS.
WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT INFORMATION.
I KNOW WHEN WE HAD THE HAYS HIGH SCHOOL SHOWCASE, MS. SALAZAR TALKED ABOUT THE OUTREACH THAT THEY ARE CURRENTLY DOING, WHICH WE WON'T SEE BECAUSE IT LAGS TWO YEARS BEHIND.
THE OUTREACH THEY ARE DOING TO MAKE SURE THEY CAPTURE THAT INFORMATION OF WHERE OUR STUDENTS GO AFTER GRADUATION, BECAUSE THAT DOES COUNT FOR US, AND WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT.
IF YOU CAN SHARE WHAT THE PLAN IS AT EACH HIGH SCHOOL, IT MIGHT LOOK DIFFERENT AT EACH HIGH SCHOOL.
BUT IF YOU CAN TELL US WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR DOING THAT OUTREACH AND CAPTURING THAT INFORMATION, WHETHER IT'S THE MILITARY PIECE.
THIS IS GREAT NEWS THAT YOU'RE SHARING WITH US, DR. WRIGHT, THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE IS NOW GOING TO PROVIDE THAT.
STARTING WHEN, DO YOU KNOW? THIS YEAR?
>> IT'S FOR THIS YEAR, SENIORS. YES.
>> AWESOME. THAT'S GOING TO BE A WONDERFUL PIECE, BUT SEEING WHERE OUR OTHER KIDS ARE HEADING IS ALSO HELPFUL.
THAT IS ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU.
>> YES. THANK YOU, MR. MALEN DRIG FOR PRESENTING TO US TONIGHT.
I REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO THE LONGHORNS NOT BEING SCARED OF THE BOBCATS ANYMORE, BECAUSE BASED ON YOUR LOGIC THERE, TEXAS STATE WILL CLEAN SHOP.
>> ANYWAYS, I APPRECIATE ALL THIS INFORMATION.
I JUST TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY HERE BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, LAGGING IS AN UNDERSTATEMENT.
I THINK TWO-YEARS-OLD, IT'S NOT REALLY ACTIONABLE AS TO WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW IN OUR SCHOOLS TODAY.
HOWEVER, IT IS TELLING IN A LOT OF AREAS.
THERE'S SOME REALLY GREAT DATA POINTS HERE OVERALL, BUT I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT AS A PARENT, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE EMAIL THAT CAME OUT THIS WEEK FROM CNI ABOUT MATH DATA THAT IS OUT AND IS CURRENT AND RELEVANT AND HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
THERE'S A COUPLE OF REALLY GOOD QUESTIONS IN THERE FOR PARENTS TO BE ASKING, WHAT INSTRUCTIONAL LEVEL IS MY CHILD ON? IS MY CHILD MAKING ADEQUATE GROWTH, THOSE TYPES OF QUESTIONS.
THE MAP DATA AND THOSE ASSESSMENTS THAT ARE HAPPENING RIGHT NOW ARE GREAT CURRENT ASSESSMENTS FOR PARENTS WATCHING AT HOME TO KNOW WHERE YOUR CHILD SPECIFICALLY IS AT.
BUT OVERALL, WE JUST GOT OUT OF DOING SHOWCASES FOR THE LAST WEEK OR SO, AND JUST THERE'S SO MANY POSITIVE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING ON EACH OF OUR CAMPUSES FROM OUR CAMPUS ADMINISTRATORS TAKING A LOOK AT THIS DATA AND MORE CURRENT DATA AND DEVELOPING THOSE CAMPUS IMPROVEMENT PLANS.
I KNOW WHEN I FIRST READ ALL THOSE IN THE FALL, I'LL BE HONEST, THEY'RE OVERWHELMING, THEY'RE LONG AND LENGTHY, AND CREATING GOALS CAN SOMETIMES FEEL LIKE A LOT OF FLUFF IN THINGS.
BUT I WILL TELL YOU THERE'S A LOT OF ENERGY AND THOUGHT PROCESS PUT INTO EACH OF THOSE.
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I JUST ENCOURAGE THE PUBLIC IN GENERAL TO REVIEW THOSE DOCUMENTS AND UNDERSTAND WHERE YOUR CAMPUSES ARE REALLY LOOKING TO PUSH STUDENTS AND TO GROW, JUST BECAUSE WE'RE PUTTING A LOT OF EFFORT INTO THOSE AVENUES.I DON'T WANT THE COMMUNITY TO MISS OUT ON THE THINGS THAT WE'RE REALLY DOING ON A DAILY BASIS TO HELP EVERY SINGLE CHILD MEET GROWTH STANDARDS SO THAT BY THE END, WHEN THEY DO GRADUATE, WE CAPTURE THIS DATA AND SEE THAT OUR STUDENTS ARE NOT JUST PERFORMING WELL WHILE IN SCHOOL, THEY ARE CRUSHING IT WHEN THEY GET OUT OF SCHOOL BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT WE'RE ALL ABOUT.
I JUST WANTED TO TAKE THAT OPPORTUNITY, BUT THANK YOU FOR THE DATA AND INFORMATION.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'VE BEEN TO A LOT OF SHOWCASES THIS YEAR, NOT AS MANY AS TRUSTEE ROSCO, BECAUSE SHE'S BEEN TO EVERYONE THAT WE'VE EVER DONE IN THE ENTIRE HISTORY OF HAYS CISD.
BUT WHAT I WANT TO SAY IS I KNOW WE'VE SEEN THIS DATA BEFORE, BUT THERE'S SOME POINTS I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT.
WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT MEATS AND MASTERS, WHICH I REALLY THINK IS THE MEAT OF WHAT WE REALLY FOCUS ON, OUR ACCELERATED LEARNING BY GRADE AND SUBJECT IS SHOWING SUCH GAINS THAT WE'RE BEATING THE DI' BEATING THE STATE AND OUR REGION AND A LOT OF THOSE NUMBERS, WHICH THEN I THINK ALSO THEN TRANSLATES INTO OUR STAR PERFORMANCE PERFORMANCE LEVEL, WHERE WE'RE BEATING THE STATE AND THIS SLIDE DATE, OF COURSE, BUT MY POINT IS THAT THIS IS ALL SETTING UP FOR.
I THINK THE MOMENTUM IS REALLY TURNED.
I REMEMBER LAST YEAR, THESE NUMBERS ARE SOME THINGS THAT WEREN'T OUR FAVORITE, WITH MATH.
BUT OUR READING NUMBERS LOOK BETTER.
THESE SHOWCASES, I'M REALLY ENCOURAGED BY WHAT I'M SEEING THE DATA THAT'S BEING PRESENTED, SO I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO NEXT YEAR'S DATA BECAUSE THIS YEAR'S DATA BECAUSE I REALLY FEEL LIKE FROM WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN THESE SHOWCASES THAT WE'RE MAKING SOME GREAT STRIDES, SO I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT FOR EVERYBODY.
ONE OTHER THING IS I KNOW OUR CCMR STUFF IS WAY LAG BEHIND, BUT JUST A REFRESHER 21-22, WE WERE AT 57%, 22, 23 OR 83%.
I KNOW WE HAVEN'T GOT THIS DATA, BUT I KNOW THAT'S JUST GOING TO KEEP COMING.
BUT I DO KNOW THAT THEY'VE CHANGED THE RULES NOW ON WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE WITH THE COMPLETER COURSES, AND I KNOW WE'RE ADJUSTING TO ACCOMPLISH SOME OF THAT, BUT I REALLY FEEL LIKE OUR ABILITY TO ENGAGE EVERY STUDENT IN EVERY FACET OF WHAT THEY WANT TO DO, WHETHER IT BE COLLEGE CAREER, OR MILITARY, I THINK IS REALLY WHAT SETS US APART FROM 100% HAYS.
YOU BROUGHT THAT TO CSD DR. WRIGHT, AND I FEEL LIKE IT'S SO IMPORTANT.
I THINK THAT WE'RE GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE I THINK I REALLY LIKE TO SEE WHAT WE'VE SEEN WITH THE DATE OF THIS YEAR, SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT OUT.
ALSO, 23 24, WITH EXPERIENCE FROM A TEACHER STANDPOINT, WE ARE BETTER THAN ANYONE ELSE IN THE STATE, AND I THINK IN OUR REGION ON OUR EXPERIENCED STAFF, TEACHERS.
I SHOULD SAY I THINK WE'RE DOING A GREAT JOB AS A BOARD.
I THINK OUR GREAT JOB AS ADMINISTRATION FOR TAKING CARE OF WHAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT, WHICH IS I HATE TO BORROW SOMEONE ELSE'S TERM, BUT WHAT OUR TRUE NORTH IS, EDUCATION OF KIDS, SO I THINK WE'RE BASED ON THIS DATA AND WHAT I'VE SEEN SO THIS YEAR.
I'M EXCITED ABOUT WHAT THIS YEAR IS GOING TO HOLD.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU.
>> YES. CAN YOU PROVIDE, I KNOW YOU SAID FIFTH GRADE AND EIGHTH GRADE SCIENCE AND SOCIAL STUDIES.
IF YOU CAN PROVIDE HOW WE'RE TRACKING BECAUSE THIS IS FROM TWO YEARS PAST, TO SEE WHERE WE'RE TRACKING THE PAST TWO YEARS SINCE THEN, TO SEE WE'RE ON A UPWARD TRAJECTORY, OR IF WE'RE JUST STATIC OR WHAT? WE SEE SEVENTH GRADE MATH IS ALWAYS AN ISSUE, AND THAT'S AN ISSUE EVERYWHERE BECAUSE OF THE ADVANCED MATH TESTS THAT THEY TAKE.
I WANT TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY REASONING BEHIND IT AND SEE HOW WE'RE TRACKING, IF YOU CAN PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION.
>> I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY BECAUSE NOT ALL OF THIS DATA IS LAGGING.
THE SPECIAL EDUCATION, THAT IS NOT, SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF FOR ANYONE LISTENING, THAT THAT IS CLEAR SO THAT NOBODY THINKS THAT WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IS TWO-YEAR-OLD INFORMATION.
>> THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN SPRING OF 2024.
>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I CLARIFY THAT. THANK YOU.
HALFWAY THROUGH THE SCHOOL YEAR.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S SPRING.
>> IT WAS LAST SPRING STAR TESTING.
>> TEAM, I GOT A COUPLE OF THINGS TO ADD.
WE HAD TAKEN A BREAK FROM OUR SPED UPDATES ON THE STAFFING.
I KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO PICK THAT BACK UP IN FEBRUARY.
MS. PETREA, IF YOU'LL CAPTURE THIS THAT WE DO WANT AN UPDATE ON THAT, BUT THEN ALSO THE UPDATE ON HOW WE'RE DOING WITH THE REPORT FROM SPED.
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WE'LL INCLUDE THOSE IN OUR FEBRUARY BOARD MEETINGS.THEN THE CAPTURE EVERYBODY'S DATA.
MR. MALON DUGAL, FOR ACC FOR AUSTIN COMMUNITY COLLEGE SPECIFICALLY, I KNOW THAT THIS YEAR WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT THEY WERE DOING FREE TUITION, SO WE MAY WANT TO NOTATE THAT SOMEWHERE THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO REALLY GET AN APPLES TO APPLES COMPARISON ON THAT DATA, AND THAT'S GOING TO BE PRETTY IMPORTANT.
THEN ALSO, IT MAY HELP TO JUST BREAK OUT.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE IT ANYWHERE, BUT THE NUMBER OF GRADUATES THAT WE HAVE AND THE PERCENTAGE OF THEM THAT ACTUALLY ARE IN A HIGHER INSTITUTION.
IF WE HAVE THAT AS A METRIC AS WELL THAT WE JUST LOOK AT TO MS. OROSCO'S POINT TO SEE WHERE WE'RE SEEING THAT YOU'RE OVER YOUR GROWTH.
>> THAT'S PRETTY EASY TO DO FROM THOSE.
>> BUT OTHER THAN THAT, GREAT REPORT TO EVERYBODY'S POINT.
IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE REALLY SOLID IN A LOT OF AREAS.
I KNOW THAT WE LIKE TO LEAD THE REGION AND THE STATE, AND THESE ARE SOME AREAS THAT WE WANT TO TIGHTEN UP AS WELL.
>> THANK YOU. TEAM, WE GET MORE TO GO.
[K. CAMPUS RECOGNITION - Blanco Vista Elementary School (Scheduled for January 27, 2025)]
NEXT WEEK, MAKE SURE AND BE HERE.WE WILL RECOGNIZE BLANCO VISTA ELEMENTARY, SO WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO THAT ON MONDAY.
TEAM WE'RE NOW ON PAGE 12 FOR CONSENT AGENDA.
[L. CONSENT AGENDA ]
AGAIN, THESE ITEMS ARE TYPICALLY ROUTINE IN NATURE, SO I WILL SEE IF ANY ITEMS NEED TO BE PULLED LOOKING TO MY LEFT.LOOKING TO MY RIGHT. GREAT. THEN WE ARE MOVING ON FROM THAT.
NOW WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO OUR ACTION ITEMS. TEAM, OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE NOT TAKING ACTION ON ANYTHING TONIGHT, SO THIS IS OUR DISCUSSION.
IN THE BEST INTEREST OF TIME, I KNOW THAT ALL OF THESE ARE IMPORTANT, BUT I DO WANT TO SHUFFLE SOME THINGS AROUND TO TRY TO GET THROUGH SOME OF THESE DISCUSSION POINTS, AS WELL AS JUST KEEPING IN MIND EVERYBODY'S TIME.
WE HAVE SOME GUEST SPEAKERS HERE TONIGHT AS WELL.
TEAM, WE'RE GOING TO GO DOWN TO ITEM M2 ON PAGE 18.
[M.2. Consideration and possible approval of a Master Lease Agreement for Employee Affordable Housing - Upward Communities]
CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE APPROVAL OF A MASTER LEASE AGREEMENT FOR EMPLOYEE AFFORDABLE HOUSING UPWARD COMMUNITIES.I KNOW THAT WE HAD THE PRESENTATION RECENTLY AND I KNOW THAT WE'VE SUBMITTED LOTS OF QUESTIONS.
WE ALSO DO HAVE A DOCUMENT IN OUR DIS FOLDER, SO I WILL LOOK TO MY LEFT TO SEE DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM. MR. SEVERANCE.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BRINGING THIS TO US.
I SUBMITTED A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS SUPER LATE TODAY, AND THAT'S MY FAULT BECAUSE APPARENTLY I FORGOT TO ATTACH THE ATTACHMENT OF THE WORD DOCUMENT THAT I PUT MY QUESTIONS ON.
THAT'S MY FAULT FOR NOT GETTING MAIL TOO.
BUT I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE LEASE AGREEMENT.
THERE IS A GENERAL LIKE, WHOLE CAN SOMEONE TELL ME THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A MASTER LEASE AGREEMENT AND LIKE JUST A REGULAR LEASE AGREEMENT WHERE IF I WERE RENTING AN APARTMENT.
ARE THESE TWO DIFFERENT DOCUMENTS OR ARE THEY VERY SIMILAR? ONE IS JUST FOR OUR ENTITY, THE HAY CISD, AND THEN ONE IS FOR THE LANDLORD, WHICH IS THE UPWARD GROUP.
>> I REALLY APPRECIATE THE QUESTION AND THANK YOU FOR ASKING THOSE QUESTIONS EARLIER AND WE'LL CERTAINLY FOLLOW UP WITH YOU ON THAT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
OUR MISSION STATEMENT IS BOLD FOR A REASON.
IT'S BECAUSE WE ARE UNITED AS BOARD IN DISTRICT TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE THE UNRIVALED EMPLOYEE FRIENDLY DISTRICT.
BUT IN DOING BOLD THINGS AND BEING INNOVATIVE, IT MEANS WE'RE DOING THINGS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN DONE BEFORE, AND THAT CAN BE UNCOMFORTABLE, AND IT CAN FEEL TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE.
BUT HAYS CISD AND THIS BOARD ARE NOT AFRAID TO BE BOLD, BUT YOU ARE WISE TO BE SURE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THE LEASE AGREEMENT, AND YOU UNDERSTAND THE PARTNERSHIP, AND SO WE WELCOME THESE QUESTIONS.
I CAN HELP ANSWER THIS SPECIFIC QUESTION.
I'D LIKE TO CALL HIM UP TO HELP PROVIDE SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THAT.
>> HOW ARE YOU? YES. THE QUESTION WAS, IS THE MASTER LEASE DIFFERENT FROM A NORMAL INDIVIDUAL LEASE? ESSENTIALLY, THINK OF IT, YOU'RE JUST LEASING IN ENTIRETY OF ALL THE UNITS, SCHOOL DISTRICT IS.
IT IS THE SCHOOL DISTRICT'S PRIORITY THAT THEY HAVE THAT TO BE ABLE TO DELEGATE THAT TO THEIR STAFF.
THROUGH A MASTER LEASE AGREEMENT, YOU'RE ALLOWED TO HAVE ALL THOSE UNITS RESERVED FOR YOUR USE FOR RETENTION AND RECRUITMENT, AND THEN WHATEVER YOU DON'T NEED, YOU'RE ALLOWED TO THEN OPEN THAT UP TO THE PUBLIC MARKET.
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I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.>> THAT'S GREAT ON THAT ONE. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> BACK TO CHRISTINA FOR MY NEXT COMMENTS.
I SUPPORT THIS. I THINK THIS IS GREAT.
I JUST HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT OUR EXPENSES ARE GOING TO BE, BUT I'M NOT SURE THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO COMPLETELY DESCRIBE OUT TO THE BOARD.
WHEN WE GOT THIS PRESENTATION, I BELIEVE IN DECEMBER, AT THE VERY END OF THE MEETING, IT WAS LATE, WE WERE GOING ON BREAK, AND I DON'T HAVE AS MUCH INFORMATION AS I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE TO VOTE ON THIS.
IS THERE A TIMELINE? DO WE HAVE TO DO THIS? THEN ON MONDAY, DO WE HAVE TO VOTE YES ON THIS ON MONDAY OR CAN WE GIVE OURSELVES SOME MORE TIME TO ASK SOME MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE FINANCIAL? I KNOW RANDY'S GOING TO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE WITH WHAT I'VE READ IN THE LEASE, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A TIME CONSTRAINT ON THIS, OR COULD WE PUSH THIS A MONTH, MAYBE TO GET SOME MORE QUESTIONS ANSWERED AS FAR AS THE FINANCIAL SIDE FOR US? I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE REST OF THE BOARD THINKS.
THAT'S JUST ME ASKING IT OUT LOUD.
>> WHAT I CAN SAY IN SHORT IS THAT THIS WILL NOT BE A BURDEN FINANCIALLY ON THE DISTRICT.
UPWARD COMMUNITIES THROUGH THEIR INVESTORS FRONTS ALL OF THE MONEY, PURCHASES EVERYTHING, AND BUILDS EVERYTHING, THEY MAINTAIN IT.
OUR RESPONSIBILITY AS A DISTRICT IS TO EDUCATE OUR STAFF OF THE OPPORTUNITY TO LIVE IN A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME AT A RENT THAT IS BELOW MARKET RATE BECAUSE THEY ARE A HAYS CISD EMPLOYEE.
MY JOB, AND THE JOB OF MY DEPARTMENT, IS TO MAKE SURE WE GET THAT WORD OUT.
THAT IS NO ADDITIONAL MARKETING COST BECAUSE WE ALREADY COMMUNICATE REGULARLY WITH OUR STAFF ABOUT BENEFITS, AND THIS WOULD SIMPLY BE AN ADDITIONAL BENEFIT THAT WE WOULD BE COMMUNICATING THROUGH THE USUAL CHANNELS THAT WE ALREADY DO, ALREADY BUILT IN OUR BUDGET.
ADDITIONALLY, WE ALREADY GO TO JOB FAIRS, AND FRANKLY, THE TIMING OF THIS IS POSITIONING US TO BE VERY COMPETITIVE FOR THE HIRING SEASON UPON US.
AS A SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND I KNOW THERE'S QUESTIONS LIKE, WHAT OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS HAVE DONE THIS? WE WOULD BE THE FIRST THAT HAS DONE THIS WITH UPWARD COMMUNITIES PROVIDING SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.
NOW, OUR BOARD IS BOLD, AND WE'VE ALREADY VENTURED INTO AFFORDABLE HOUSING THROUGH OUR EXISTING PARTNERSHIP WITH THE TEXAS HOUSING WORKFORCE FOUNDATION, WITH OUR APARTMENTS AT THE CHLOE AND THE OASIS.
WE'VE ALREADY BEGUN THIS WORK.
WHAT WE'RE DOING IS ADDING ANOTHER LAYER OF OFFERINGS TO OUR STAFF IN SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES IN ADDITION TO THE APARTMENTS FROM 2-4 BEDROOMS AT AFFORDABLE RATES, WITH AMENITIES THAT THEY'LL GET TO HAVE INPUT ON WHAT THEY WANT TO HAVE IN THEIR COMMUNITIES.
THE BEAUTIFUL THING ABOUT THIS IS WE CAN BE STRATEGIC IN DETERMINING HOW MANY OF THESE UNITS WE WISH TO HAVE RESERVED FOR OUR STAFF.
THE ONES WE DECIDE TO PUT TO MARKET RATE, THE DIFFERENCE IS APPLIED TO BENEFIT OUR STAFF.
FOR EXAMPLE, IF I HAVE SOMEBODY WHO'S MAKING A LOWER SALARY AND PERHAPS THEY HAVE THREE CHILDREN, THEY NEED A LARGER HOME, WE CAN LEVERAGE THAT MARKET RATE SURPLUS TO OUR STAFF'S ADVANTAGE TO PROVIDE A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME THAT SHE OR HE MAY OTHERWISE NOT BE ABLE TO AFFORD, IN THE CURRENT MARKET, WHICH CONTINUES TO INCREASE.
THERE'S NO COST TO THE DISTRICT.
THE TENANTS PAY A RENT, AND THAT GOES TOWARDS UPWARDS COMMUNITY.
NOW, BECAUSE WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION AND A RESPONSIBILITY TO REFER PEOPLE, AND WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING THIS IN PHASES, WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GETTING STAFF IN THERE AND WE'RE HOPING TO LOOK MAYBE 300 HOMES INITIALLY.
WE'VE GOT 3,500 STAFF, AND WE'RE GOING TO DOUBLE IN SIZE IN THE NEXT 10 YEARS, AND WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO RECRUIT THEM FROM OTHER PLACES.
THEY'RE GOING TO NEED PLACES TO LIVE ALTHOUGH WE DO GROW YOUR OWN, THE FACT IS STATISTICALLY, MATHEMATICALLY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO RECRUIT FROM OTHER PLACES, AND WE NEED TO BE MORE AFFORDABLE THAN ANYWHERE ELSE THAT'S RECRUITING THEM.
THE FINANCIAL RISK, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, DR. WRIGHT, YOU CAN CORRECT ANYTHING THAT I'M SAYING IF YOU WISH, IF I'M NOT BEING CLEAR ENOUGH, BUT UPWARD COMMUNITIES IS PROVIDING A LARGE POOL OF MONEY IN RESERVE.
I'D LIKE TO EXPLAIN IT, LIKE IF YOU THINK ABOUT A TRAFFIC LIGHT, YOU GOT YOUR GREEN LIGHT, YOUR YELLOW LIGHT, YOUR RED LIGHT.
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THAT RESERVE IS THERE TO COVER VACANCIES.IT'S NOT COMING OUT OF A DISTRICT BUDGET, IT'S COMING OUT OF MONEY THAT HAS BEEN DONATED BY PEOPLE FROM WALL STREET WHO'VE INVESTED IN THIS PROJECT.
WE'RE ABLE TO MOVE MONIES FROM THAT POOL TO COVER THE VACANCIES, WE'RE HIGHLY MOTIVATED TO FILL THOSE.
IF WE SEE THAT WE'RE NOT ABLE TO FILL THEM, WE CAN DECIDE AND COMMUNICATE, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO PUT THESE TO MARKET.
WE'RE NOT SEEING THEM MOVE FAST ENOUGH RIGHT NOW, WE'RE GOING TO PUT THESE TO MARKET RIGHT NOW.
ANOTHER THING IS WE'LL BE WATCHING THOSE RESERVES, AND IF WE SEE THOSE RESERVES GOING DOWN AND DOWN AND DOWN, WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING VERY HARD TO EITHER ADDRESS THAT, PUT IT TO MARKET RATE, OR IF NEED BE, IF WE SEE THOSE RESERVES FALLING AT A RATE THAT MAKES US UNCOMFORTABLE, YOU AS A BOARD HAVE THE RIGHT AT YELLOW LIGHT, GOING FROM A GREEN LIGHT TO YELLOW LIGHT, LIKE, WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF MONEY, WE'RE NOT ABLE TO FILL THESE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE, YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO VOTE TO NOT APPROPRIATE.
AS A BOARD, YOU'RE ABLE TO DO THAT.
WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT WE PULL OUT OF THERE, AND THEN UPWARD COMMUNITIES HAS TO DECIDE WHAT TO DO WITH THAT COMMUNITY THAT THEY BUILT, AND IT'S ON THEM.
THEN THEY HAVE TO DECIDE WHAT TO DO.
AT THAT POINT, IF THAT EVER WERE TO HAPPEN, THE HOMES WOULD HAVE TO RETURN TO A MARKET RATE.
WE'RE ALL HIGHLY MOTIVATED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE FILLED, AND THAT WE'RE SUCCESSFUL IN MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE CAN DO THAT BECAUSE WHAT WE DON'T WANT IS TO LOSE THEM, TO HAVE TO MOVE SOMEWHERE ELSE WHERE THEY CAN AFFORD TO LIVE, OR TO LEAVE THE DISTRICT TO WORK ELSEWHERE TO AFFORD WHERE THEY ARE AT MARKET RATE.
WE'RE HIGHLY MOTIVATED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE FILLED AND HAVE ENOUGH SPEED BUMPS ALONG THE WAY THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO CRASH.
DR. WRIGHT, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT?
>> YEAH. I WAS JUST GOING TO ADD THAT YOU INSERTED A TIMELINE FOR THIS PROCESS.
I KNOW ON BOARD BLOG, AND YOU MAY WANT TO DESCRIBE THAT TIMELINE AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND WHAT THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS TIMELINE IS.
I KNOW JASON HAS PROCURED INVESTORS, AND THE LONGER YOU WAIT, THEY MAY PULL OUT.
THEN ALSO, HE'S WORKED WITH A VERY REPUTABLE BUILDER, AND THAT BUILDER IS ON STANDBY READY TO GO.
ONCE AGAIN, THIS PROJECT, IT WILL NOT IMPACT OUR BOND CAPACITY AT ALL.
THERE IS NO UPFRONT COST TO US.
THE ONLY RISK IS THAT HOWEVER MANY UNITS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH, I'M THINKING 300, THAT WE KEEP THOSE FULL, AND WE WILL HAVE A RESERVE ACCOUNT PROVIDED BY UPWARD COMMUNITIES THAT WILL HELP US IN THE INTERIM.
BUT I THINK BASED ON THE EMPLOYEE INTERACTION THAT WE'VE HAD, IT'S GOING TO BE A REALLY POPULAR PROGRAM, AND IT'LL ALLOW US TO GET AHEAD OF THE CURVE AND RECRUIT AND RETAIN PEOPLE.
WE HAD A GENTLEMAN FROM THE TRANSPORTATION LEADERSHIP COUNCIL AT OUR LAST MEETING ASKED ME IF THIS COMES TO FRUITION AND HE'S ABLE TO GET A HOUSE THERE, WOULD HE BE ABLE TO RETIRE EVEN THOUGH HE'S NOT AN EMPLOYEE, AND I SAID, WELL, HOLD ON NOW, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING I'VE DISCUSSED.
I THINK WE MAY EVEN CAN COME UP WITH A PROVISION FOR THAT ONE DAY WITH SOME LEGACY-TYPE HOMES.
BUT WE'RE GOING TO LOOK INTO THAT.
BUT WE RAN THIS BY OUR ATTORNEYS AT THE FISHER FIRM.
GUYS, REMEMBER, WE STARTED WORKING ON THIS IN THE SUMMER, IN JULY.
OUR ATTORNEYS AND THEIR ATTORNEYS HAVE MET AND THEY'VE HASHED THINGS OUT OVER AND OVER AGAIN UNTIL BOTH WERE COMFORTABLE.
I THINK WE'RE AT A REALLY GOOD PLACE IN TIME.
I'M CONSERVATIVE IN NATURE, AND THE PERSON THAT IS REALLY ASSUMING THE RISK IS JASON, AND HE'S COMFORTABLE IN DOING SO.
AS YOUR SUPERINTENDENT, I FEEL LIKE WE ARE A PIONEER, WE'RE GETTING OUT IN FRONT, BUT I ALSO THINK IT'S GOING TO BE EXTREMELY BENEFICIAL TO OUR EMPLOYEES IN THE FUTURE.
>> I APPRECIATE ALL THOSE COMMENTS, MS. CORSON, DR. WRIGHT.
AGAIN, I WANT TO GO ON RECORD AND SAY, I'M FOR IT, BUT I'M JUST CONCERNED THAT MAYBE ME PERSONALLY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION ABOUT VOTING ON IT ON MONDAY.
WE JUST GOT THE LEASE AGREEMENT.
YES, I KNOW YOUR ATTORNEYS REVIEWED IT.
I BELIEVE THAT I'VE ASKED OUR ROLE TO SEE IF OUR BOARD ATTORNEY COULD REVIEW IT,
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SINCE WE'RE NAMED IN THEIR MASTER LEASE AGREEMENT.I THINK OUR ATTORNEY SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO LOOK AT THAT AS WELL.
BUT I DO HAVE A QUESTION, SINCE WE'RE TALKING THERE'S NO EXPENSE.
I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT WHEN I'M READING THE LIST, WHAT I ASKED IF I WAS NOT UNDERSTANDING WHAT A MASTER LEASE AGREEMENT WAS VERSUS A NORMAL TENANT BECAUSE ON SECTION 3.02 AND UTILITIES, AND TENANTS DEFINED AS HAYS CISD, IT'S DEFINED ON PAGE 5 TENANT.
IT SAYS, "COMMENCING THE ACCEPTANCE DATE, TENANT SHALL AT TENANT SOLE COST AND EXPENSE, SUPPLY THE PREMISE WITH ELECTRICITY, HEATING, VENTILATION, AND AIR CONDITIONING, WATER, NATURAL GAS, LIGHTING, REPLACEMENT FOR ALL LIGHTS, RESTROOM SUPPLIES, TELEPHONE, INTERNET SERVICE, WINDOW WASHING, SECURITY SERVICE, [INAUDIBLE], DISPOSAL SERVICES, INCLUDING HAZARDOUS WASTE DISPOSAL IF APPLICABLE, AND SUCH OTHER SERVICES AS TENANT DETERMINES TO FURNISH THE PREMISES." DOES THAT MEAN THAT WE AS A DISTRICT, AS A TENANT, ARE THEN RESPONSIBLE FOR THOSE SYSTEMS WITHIN EACH OF THE HOMES?
>> I'M GOING TO ASK MR. ROBERTS TO COME UP AND SPEAK MORE FROM THAT MASTER LEASE LENS, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE BECAUSE I WOULD HATE TO MISSPEAK ON THAT.
YOU'RE DIVING INTO THE TRIPLE-NET VERSION OF A LEASE.
ALL THE COSTS ARE A FLOW THROUGH, SO THAT WOULD BASICALLY BE SAYING THAT YOU NEED TO HAVE ELECTRICITY AND WATER PROVIDED LIKE NORMAL TEXAS REAL ESTATE LAW, THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE THAT PROVIDED FOR THE TENANT.
YOU ARE THE MASTER TENANT THAT THEN SUBLEASES THAT TO THE STAFF MEMBER THAT WOULD THEN ASSUME THE EXACT SAME ROLE AND RESPONSIBILITIES THAT ARE IN YOUR LEASE.
IT'S GOOD TO PAY ATTENTION TO THE DETAILS OF THE LEASE, BUT THIS IS NORMAL [OVERLAPPING].
>> THAT'S WHY I ASKED THE QUESTION BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S A REGULAR TENANT AGREEMENT.
>> BUT WHEN TENANT IS DEFINED BY US, THEN IT'S SAYING THAT WE'RE AT THE SOLE COST AND EXPENSE OF US, HAVE TO PROVIDE THESE THINGS.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WOULD THAT BE THE SAME THING FOR MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR? I'M LOOKING AT THIS FROM LIKE A MAX CLEAVER 10 YEARS FROM NOW.
I KNOW IN THE LEASE YOU'RE GIVING US A YEAR, AND I THINK THE HOME BUILDER IS GIVING A YEAR.
ARE YOU WARRANTY ON ALL THE SYSTEMS WITHIN THESE HOMES?
>> YES, WE DID GET STANDARD WARRANTIES THAT YOU WOULD GET IN PURCHASING ANY LOCAL HOME IN THE AREA.
WE ALSO GET THOSE WARRANTY COVERAGES.
WE EVEN GET PROBABLY SOME SPECIAL EXTENSIONS, DEPENDING UPON THE SUPPLY AND THE NUMBER THAT WE PROVIDE IN THERE.
>> WE WILL BE THE ONES, AS THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANY, THAT TAKES CARE OF THAT FOR YOU.
WHAT WE'RE DOING IN THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANY IS YOU LIST OUT ALL THE EXPENSES AND WE HAVE A BUDGET THAT WE WORK WITH, THE TEAM WE HAVE WORKED WITH ON WHAT MAINTENANCE ITEMS WE'RE GOING TO BE CARRYING FOR THE LONG PERIOD OF TIME.
WE SET ASIDE CAPITAL FOR NEW ROOFS, SIDING, WE HAVE OVER 20 YEARS OF REAL ESTATE EXPERIENCE AND HAD EVERYTHING GO WRONG YOU COULD THINK OF.
IN A NORMAL PROPERTY MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT, WE COVER ALL OF THOSE IN THE RENT BASIS.
YOU'RE NEVER HAVING TO COME TO THE BOARD OR TO THE POCKET FOR THE CAPITAL BECAUSE WE SET ASIDE THE CASH RESERVES FOR THE OPERATING ACCOUNT.
>> YOU'RE STARTING US OUT WITH A FUND BALANCE THAT WE'RE GOING TO JUST OPERATE OUT OF [OVERLAPPING].
>> WE COVER EVERY SINGLE DOLLAR FINANCIALLY, AND THE WORST THING THAT COULD HAPPEN FOR US IS THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT DOESN'T FILL THE UNITS OR HAS TO GO BACK TO THE BOARD AND ASK THE BOARD FOR MONEY FROM YOUR BUDGET THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT.
THIS IS A REVENUE-NEUTRAL, BUT POSITIVELY POSITIVE SITUATION THAT YOU COULD USE FOR SUBSIDIES ADDITIONAL AGAIN.
BUT YES, WE COVER YOU 100% BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO DO.
FROM THE VERY GET-GO, YOU SAID, WE DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY TO GIVE YOU FOR THIS PROJECT, AND I SAID [OVERLAPPING].
IF MAX DOESN'T HAVE TO PUT ON A BOND THAT WE NEED 300 AC UNITS BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL GOING OUT, WE'RE NEVER GOING TO HAVE TO SEE THAT EXPENSE?
>> NO. ACTUALLY, WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO DO IS STRUCTURE OF A 40-YEAR LEASE INITIALLY WITH A TOTAL OF A 60-YEAR LEASE.
HOW THAT WILL HAPPEN IN OFFICE SPACE OR ANY OTHER TYPE OF REAL ESTATE PROJECT, YEAR 20, THERE WOULD BE TREE ROOTS BUCKLING THE SIDEWALKS AND JUST MAINTENANCE AND GUTTERS AND TRIM AND WATER, ALL THESE THINGS.
I WOULD SAY, THIS PROJECT'S GOING TO NEED A $20 MILLION UPGRADE TO PUT NEW ROOFS, NEW SIDING, AND DO THESE THINGS.
WE'LL PROVIDE THE CAPITAL, WE'LL EXTEND LEASE FROM THAT 40 YEAR TO THE 50 OR THE 55, OR 60 YEAR.
IN THAT TERM, WE'RE GOING TO BE PLANNING ON DONATING THAT VERTICAL IMPROVEMENTS TO THE DISTRICT.
WE WOULD SAY, OKAY, WELL THEN, WE'RE GOING TO SET ASIDE THE OPERATING MONTHLY BUDGET, $15 A MONTH FOR NEW ROOFS AND NEW THINGS.
I WOULD SAY WE REALLY KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING AS FAR AS MAKING SURE WE ALLOCATE MONEY ASIDE FOR THAT.
YOU DON'T JUST GIVE YOU A PRODUCT THAT WE'RE NOT INCENTIVIZED TO TAKE CARE OF BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO BE THE OWNER, SO WE JUST HAVE TO PLAN WITH YOU AS A TRUE PARTNER STROKE FOR STROKE THAT SAYS, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THE MONEY TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT IN YEAR 60 OR YEAR 65.
THEREFORE, YOU HAVE A GOOD VALUABLE PRODUCT FOR THE DISTRICT THAT CAN CHOOSE TO DONATE TO
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RETIRED STAFF OR CHOOSE TO SELL OR KEEP OR GENERATE ADDITIONAL INCOME FOR THE NEXT COMMUNITY.REALITY IS IS YOU'RE GOING TO BE 300 HOUSES.
I'M ALREADY GOING TO HAVE A WAITING LIST.
I'VE ALREADY BEEN GETTING APPROACHED BY FOLKS. THIS HAS GOTTEN OUT.
SINCE THAT NEWS STATION THAT REACHED OUT THE LAST TIME WE MET, I'VE GOTTEN PHONE CALLS FROM THE CHIEF OF STAFF AND GOVERNORS OF OTHER STATES.
YOU'RE FIRST, YOU'RE HERE, YOU ASK YOUR TIME ABOUT WAITING.
WE HAVE TO ALLOCATE RESOURCES, AND I'VE GOT ONLY SO MUCH MONEY TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT PROJECTS LIKE THIS.
I LOVE THAT YOU ARE 11 MILES FROM MY HOUSE.
I GREW UP IN THIS COMMUNITY. HAPPY TO DO IT FOR THE COMMUNITY.
>> IT'S THE ONLY COMMUNITY I'VE EVER LOVED EITHER, SO I GET IT. I UNDERSTAND.
MAYBE THERE WOULD BE A WAY FOR YOU TO SHARE SOME OF THOSE.
I'M SURE RANDY HAS ALREADY DONE SOME ACCOUNTING ON THIS THAT HE COULD PROBABLY SHARE WITH YOU.
YOU'VE ALREADY DONE THESE NOTES.
I'D LOVE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT WHAT YOUR INITIAL INVESTMENT IS GOING TO BE, WHAT THAT FUND BALANCE LOOKS LIKE, HOW THAT'S JUST SOME GENERAL LEDGER STUFF TO JUST UNDERSTAND IT.
I THINK IT'S GREAT. I JUST WOULD LIKE TO
>> WE HAD OUR BUDGET AND ARE PROVIDED BY OTHER THIRD PARTY AUDITING, MANAGING FIRMS LIKE JLL.
THESE ARE NOT JUST NUMBERS THAT WE CAME UP WITH.
THESE ARE NUMBERS THAT ARE INDUSTRY AVERAGES, SO OUR NUMBERS ARE BETTER THAN THEIRS.
BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE CONSERVATIVE PROJECTIONS, WE HAVE CONSERVATIVE NUMBERS.
>> I'D LOVE TO SEE THAT. THAT'D BE GREAT IF YOU CAN SHARE THAT WITH US.
>> MY LAST QUESTION IS THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE ANOTHER RELATIONSHIP WHERE WE'RE SUBSIDIZING SOME APARTMENT UNITS, IN YOUR LEASE, THERE'S A CLAUSE THAT TALKS ABOUT WE CAN'T DO THAT. WE'RE OKAY [OVERLAPPING]
>> WE'RE GOING TO ASSIST AND STRETCH ANYBODY'S EFFORTS AND DONATION DOLLARS FURTHER.
THE ISSUE IS, SINCE WE'RE GOING OUT ON A LIMB, PROBABLY SOMEWHERE $65-90 MILLION FOR THIS PROJECT FOR YOU GUYS, THAT WE ASKED THAT YOU DO IT WITH US BEFORE, BECAUSE WHAT COULD HAPPEN IN WE HAVE ATTORNEYS THAT THINK OF EVERY HORRIBLE SCENARIO YOU CAN THINK OF IS LIKE, WE GET A BETTER OFFER, AND THEREFORE, WE'RE GOING TO CANCEL, NOT APPROPRIATE THIS LEASE TO BUILD 60 MORE OR 300 UNITS SOMEWHERE HERE.
WE JUST ASK THAT YOU JUST KEEP IT KOSHER AND THAT YOU CALL US IF YOU WANT TO DO ANOTHER HOUSING PROJECT BECAUSE WE MADE A $90 MILLION INVESTMENT WITH YOU FIRST.
>> BUT ANY RELATIONSHIPS OR CURLY IN WITH LIKE AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, YOU'RE TOTALLY OKAY WITH THAT?
>> ABSOLUTELY. EVEN I'D LOVE TO WORK WITH GROUP ABOUT EVEN US POSSIBLY MATCHING THEIR DOLLARS IN OUR DONATIONS.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE DOING PERSONALLY FROM MY FAMILY FUND, IS MAKING AN ADDITIONAL DONATION ON TOP OF ALL THE MONEY IN THE RESERVES TO BUY THE RENTS DOWN FURTHER FOR MORE STAFF, AND WE'RE ASKING SOME OF OUR VERY GOOD FRIENDS, AND POSSIBLY SOME OF OUR DEVELOPING PARTNERS TO MATCH THAT AS WELL.
WE'RE LOOKING AT 10-YEAR COMMITMENTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.
I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT FOR RAINY DAY, BUT WE'RE HIGHLY INVESTED IN MAKING SURE THIS IS SUCCESSFUL.
THE ULTIMATE GOAL IS A STAFF MEMBER, WHETHER A BUS DRIVER, CUSTODIAN, OR TEACHER, HE'S GOT TO SAY, WOW, I GET THIS AMAZING PLACE AT THIS AMAZING PRICE BECAUSE I WORK FOR THIS SCHOOL DISTRICT.
THAT'S THE GOAL. IF WE DON'T ACCOMPLISH THAT, WE FAIL, AND I RISK $90 MILLION.
NOT FUN. BUT WE'RE GOING TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.
IT'S JUST ENTIRELY UP TO YOUR BLESSING, AND IT'S HERE FOR YOU GUYS.
AS WE'VE WORKED WITH YOUR STAFF EXTENSIVELY ON YOUR REASONABLE QUESTIONS ARE ALL VERY REASONABLE.
WE JUST HAVE AN ENTIRE TEAM THAT HAS WORKED ON CREATING SOLUTIONS FOR ALL THESE PROBLEMS.
>> NO, I LOVE IT. I THINK IT'S GREAT.
I THINK THIS INFORMATION HAS BEEN WONDERFUL.
I KNOW THAT'S THE ATTORNEYS SIDE OF OUR DIAS.
THEY HAVE EXPERIENCED ATTORNEYS, SO THEY UNDERSTAND ALL THAT, PROBABLY MUCH BETTER THAN ME.
I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING SOME OF THOSE FINANCIAL NUMBERS AND A LITTLE INDICATION OF HOW THE BALANCE IS GOING TO BE FUNDED INITIALLY AND THEN WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE OVER TIME.
>> THE GOOD THING IS YOU DO GET TIME.
I JUST WANT TO BE AWARE, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GO FROM 60-0 QUICK.
YOU'VE GOT SEVERAL HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN A BANK ACCOUNT FOR YOU AT YOUR DISCRETION TO DRAW ON.
YOU GET TO SEE, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE 100% EMPTY.
WE'VE GOT PLENTY OF TIME FOR US TO EITHER CREATE DONATIONS TO SOLVE YOUR PROBLEM OR TO SIT DOWN AND WORK WITH YOU AND THERE ARE GOING TO BE ISSUES.
THE GREAT PART IS, ALREADY BEEN WORKING WITH YOUR STAFF ON THESE ISSUES.
I'M COMFORTABLE THAT IF WE RUN INTO A PROBLEM, WE'RE GOING TO SIT DOWN.
IF IT'S MONEY, WE'LL GET MONEY.
IF IT'S GUTTERS, WE'LL PUT NEW GUTTERS ON. WE'RE GOING TO FIGURE IT OUT.
THAT'S HAVING THE LONG TERM FLEXIBILITY AND ALSO JUST THE PEOPLE WITH THE DESIRE TO DO IT IS ALL THAT WE NEED TO KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO WORK OR FIX ANYTHING THAT COMES UP.
>> I LOVE IT. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
I PARDON ALL MY QUESTIONS, IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE.
WE HAVE A THURSDAY MEETING, AND THEN WE HAVE OUR NEXT MEETINGS ON MONDAY.
THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF TIME TO PROCESS IT.
I STILL THINK I HAD SOME QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU FOR PROVIDING THAT AND I LOOK FORWARD TO ANSWERING THE QUESTIONS AND WHATEVER FINANCIAL INFORMATION WE CAN GET BEFORE MONDAY TO BE GREAT.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MS. ROSCO.
>> I'M SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THIS OPPORTUNITY.
WE PRIDE OURSELVES IN BEING EMPLOYEE FRIENDLY.
WE HAVE WORKED SO HARD UNDER DR. WRIGHT'S LEADERSHIP OF BEING EMPLOYEE FRIENDLY, AND I THINK THIS IS JUST ONE OTHER LEVEL THAT WE CAN ADD,
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SHOWING THAT WE WANT TO RETAIN AND RECRUIT STAFF, NOT JUST TEACHERS, BUT STAFF.IT'S A GREAT PARTNERSHIP, AND I APPRECIATE YOU MAKING ALL THOSE CONCESSIONS AND MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE A GREAT PARTNERSHIP TOGETHER.
I'M DEFINITELY READY TO VOTE ON THIS.
I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING FOR QUITE SOME TIME AND MAKING SURE TO CROSS YOUR T'S AND DOT YOUR EYES ON.
YOU'RE RIGHT, THAT HIRING SEASON IS UPON US.
I DON'T WANT TO HESITATE AND MISS OUT ON THAT.
I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE A HUGE THING AS WE DO RECRUIT PEOPLE FROM OTHER DISTRICTS, OTHER AREAS, AND EVEN THE FOLKS HERE THAT LIVE HERE, HOW WONDERFUL IT IS TO OWN A HOME TO HAVE THIS HOME FOR YOUR FAMILY.
IT'S SO GREAT, AND I HOPE WE CAN OFFER THAT TO ALL OUR EMPLOYEES.
ONE QUESTION THAT KEEPS COMING UP IS, AND YOU'VE ANSWERED IT MULTIPLE TIMES, BUT I'M JUST GOING TO SAY IT AGAIN.
PEOPLE THAT DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE, BECAUSE IT IS INNOVATIVE.
SCHOOL DISTRICTS DON'T DO THIS.
IS PEOPLE ASK, WHAT IS THE COST OF THE TAXPAYER? WHAT IS THE COST TO THE TAXPAYER? RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW, YOU ARE JUST AFFIRMING, THERE IS NO COST TO THE TAXPAYER.
THERE'S NO COST TO THE DISTRICT.
OUR CONTRIBUTION IS MAKING SURE THAT WE OFFER THIS OPPORTUNITY TO EMPLOYEES AND FILL THESE HOUSES WITH EMPLOYEES AND TALK ABOUT HOW IT WOULD BENEFIT THEM.
PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG OR TELL ME SOMETHING DIFFERENT OR TELL ME AM I ON THE RIGHT TRACK HERE?
I AM PROVIDING 100% OF THE CAPITAL FOR THIS PROJECT.
THE DEBT IS 100% ON OUR BALANCE SHEET.
DOES NOT AFFECT YOUR BOND RATING OR YOU IN ANY FORM OR FASHION OR ANY CITIZEN LOCALLY HERE.
BUT IN ORDER FOR US TO FINANCIALLY DO THE INVESTORS AND THE CAPITAL NECESSARY TO DO THIS, AND ALSO FOR THIS TO BE RESERVED FOR YOUR STAFF, NOT ONLY FOR TODAY, BUT YOUR FUTURE 30 YEAR NEEDS, THE LEASE HAS TO BE WITH YOU.
THROUGH THAT SOLUTION BASED SYSTEM THAT WE DO, AGAIN, ALL THE MONEY IS HERE, EVEN THE RESERVES, AND WE'RE ABOUT TO SPEND A MILLION DOLLARS AFTER YOU GUYS GIVE US A GREEN LIGHT, JUST TO GIVE YOU A SITE PLAN, UTILITY AGREEMENTS, AND I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO REIMBURSE ANY OF IT IF IT DOESN'T WORK.
WE BELIEVE IN IT. WE BELIEVE IN YOU.
IT'S JUST YOU JUST GOT TO GIVE US A SHOT TO DO IT FOR YOU.
>> I LOVE IT. I KNOW THAT OUR COUNTY DOES NEEDS ASSESSMENTS.
OUR COUNTY, OUR CITY HAS DONE NEEDS ASSESSMENT, AND THE TOP THREE THINGS ON THAT ASSESSMENT IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING, TRANSPORTATION, AND MENTAL HEALTH.
THOSE ARE THE THREE THINGS THAT KEEPS COMING UP OVER AND OVER IN COUNTY NEEDS ASSESSMENT, CITY, AND SO ON.
I AM GLAD THAT WE ARE GOING TO TACKLE THIS HUGE PIECE BECAUSE THERE IS NOT THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING AVAILABLE TO OUR COMMUNITY, TO OUR STAFF.
I THINK THIS IS A WONDERFUL PARTNERSHIP.
I AM READY TO VOTE YES ON THIS.
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT FORWARD.
>> THANK YOU FOR PRESENTING THIS.
I THINK THIS IS A PRETTY EXCITING DAY AND CONCEPT FOR OUR DISTRICT.
I WOULD LOVE TO SIT HERE AND JUST SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE DON'T NEED TO OFFER OUR STAFF AFFORDABLE HOUSING BECAUSE WE'RE JUST GOING TO INCREASE THEIR PAY A MILLION DOLLARS EACH, AND THERE'S NO ISSUE.
BUT WE HAVE A REVENUE ISSUE AND WE CAN'T RAISE MORE REVENUE.
THE QUESTION IS, HOW DO WE STRETCH THE REVENUE THAT WE HAVE AS A DISTRICT AND PAYING OUR STAFF MEMBERS AND STRETCH THE MONEY THAT WE'RE ABLE TO PAY OUR STAFF MEMBERS FURTHER AND MAKE IT SO THAT THEY CAN LIVE IN THE AREAS WHERE THEY WORK AND PROVIDE THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THEM.
TO THAT END, I'M CURIOUS, YOU MENTIONED SOME STAFF FEEDBACK THAT YOU'VE RECEIVED AND I KNOW THE CONCEPT OF, YES, I WOULD LOVE TO LIVE IN A PLACE THAT'S MORE AFFORDABLE.
HOWEVER, I'M CURIOUS IF THERE'S BEEN ANY FEEDBACK OF I'D LIKE TO LIVE IN A COMMUNITY WITH ALL MY FELLOW STAFF MEMBERS.
I LIKE IT, BUT ANYWAYS, JUST CURIOUS IF YOU'VE GOTTEN ANY FEEDBACK ON THAT END.
>> NO, I HAVE NOT DONE A SURVEY TO ASK STAFF IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO LIVE NEXT TO THE PEOPLE THEY WORK WITH.
WHAT WE HAVE RECEIVED IS FEEDBACK ALREADY FROM OUR FIRST VENTURE INTO THIS, THAT THERE IS A NEED, AND THE NEED IS NOT JUST FROM ONE TYPE OF EMPLOYEE.
IF YOU LOOKED AT THE FIRST HUNDRED SUBMISSIONS FROM OUR FIRST STEP INTO AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THEY WERE FOLKS FROM ALL DIFFERENT AREAS, ALL DIFFERENT PAY SCALES, ALL DIFFERENT PROFESSIONS.
THE NEED IS THERE FOR DIFFERENT PEOPLE FOR DIFFERENT REASONS.
I THINK WE'VE ALL FELT THAT PINCH RECENTLY,
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REGARDLESS OF WHO WE ARE.I THINK THE FEEDBACK IT'S VERY EXCITING TO THINK ABOUT BEING ABLE TO PAY A RENT THAT IS REASONABLE.
I'VE HAD PEOPLE TELL ME STORIES ABOUT THEIR ADULT CHILDREN MOVING IN WITH THEM.
I KNOW I HAVE AN ADULT CHILD THAT LIVES WITH ME BECAUSE IT'S JUST FINANCIALLY SMARTER TO DO THAT RIGHT NOW.
SHE COULDN'T LIVE IN AN APARTMENT ON HER OWN, NOT EVEN A STUDIO.
I THINK THAT JUST HEARING ANECDOTALLY THE STORIES OF STRUGGLE AND WHAT PEOPLE ARE DOING TO TRY TO WORK TOGETHER AND POOL RESOURCES, THINK PEOPLE ARE DOING WHAT THEY CAN, AND HOW WONDERFUL IT WOULD BE TO GIVE THEM ANOTHER OPTION.
AS YOU SAY THAT, I THINK ABOUT MY OWN 15 AND 12-YEAR-OLD THAT MY WIFE AND I HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.
I WAS LIKE, MAN, WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO LIVE NEAR US.
AS YOU TALKED TO, I THOUGHT ABOUT THIS.
WE CONSIDER BECAUSE WE HAVE IT'S EASY TO JUST THINK ABOUT TEACHERS, AND WE THINK ABOUT PRODUCTS LIKE THIS, BUT THIS IS ALL STAFF, SO EVERYBODY.
>> THAT IS CORRECT. THIS IS FOR EVERY SINGLE ACISD STAFF.
>> [LAUGHTER] EVERY EMPLOYEE OF THE DISTRICT.
>> YES. BUT WITH THAT SAID, THOUGH SOME OF OUR STAFF MEMBERS ARE VERY TIED TO THEIR OWN SCHOOLS AND CAMPUSES WHERE THEY'RE LIVING NOW, AND JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER POTENTIALLY, ALLOWING THOSE STAFF MEMBERS TO STILL HAVE TRANSFERS IN THE DISTRICT.
I DON'T KNOW, I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT THAT WHOLE COMMUNITY ALL GOING TO ONE SCHOOL TOGETHER.
THERE ARE KIDS THAT ARE LIVING WITH THEM GOING TO ONE SCHOOL TOGETHER, BUT THAT'S A TOMORROW PROBLEM.
>> TO ADDRESS THAT, EMPLOYEES HAVE TO EXERCISE THAT TRANSFER.
>> YEAH. TIME LIMIT ON EMPLOYEES LIVING IN THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
I THINK YOU MENTIONED THIS AT THE PRESENTATION OF DECEMBER, BUT CAN YOU REMIND ME WHAT THAT IS, WAS IT SEVEN YEARS?
>> NO. OTHER PROGRAMS HAVE LIMITED BECAUSE OF THEIR WAITING LIST IS SO SIGNIFICANT THAT THEY LIMIT THEIR STAFF TO SEVEN YEARS.
THE ENTIRE POINT OF US DOING THIS VERY LONG TERM FOR HE IS YOU GET TO DECIDE HOW LONG THEY STAY THERE, AND WE WOULD LOVE FOR THEM TO RAISE THEIR FAMILIES THERE AND TALK ABOUT POTENTIALLY LEGACY ROW, THINGS LIKE THAT WHERE WE'LL JUST BUILD YOU MORE HOUSES, AND IT'LL MAKE SENSE.
THE POINT IS, WHEN WE INITIALLY STARTED THIS PROGRAM, LIKE MOST AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROGRAMS, IT'S FOR A CERTAIN TIME PERIOD AND THEN YOU GET TO BENEFIT MARKET RENTS.
WELL, THEN WE JUST FULLY COMMITTED TO GIVING IT TO YOU FOR AS LONG AS YOU NEED IT FOREVER AND FOR YOUR STAFF SO THEY CAN STAY.
>> ALL RIGHT. THEN LAST QUESTION, CAN YOU JUST EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE? WE'RE TAKING A 40-YEAR MASTER LEASE AGREEMENT, BUT IT'S AN ANNUAL APPROPRIATION OF IT, AND SO JUST THAT.
>> THIS IS THE BIG REASON WHY THIS PROBLEM HAS NOT BEEN APPROACHED OR SOLVED BY OTHER INDUSTRY, VERY LARGE INDIVIDUALS GROUPS BECAUSE I TAKE THE RISK YOU'RE GOING TO CANCEL THE LEASE IN A YEAR.
THAT'S NOT FUN. I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU $90 MILLION COMMUNITY NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT, AND YOU'RE GOING TO CANCEL THE LEASE IF FOR ANY REASON YOU LIKE, IT'S NOT FUN.
THE REALITY IS, THOUGH, I UNDERSTAND THE PROBLEM, AND I UNDERSTAND THE NEED IN OUR LOCAL COMMUNITY.
I KNOW IF I SOLVE THE PROBLEM PROVIDING SOMEBODY AN ESSENTIAL STAFF MEMBER WITH AN AMAZING LIVING SITUATION AT AN AMAZING PRICE, THEN YOU'RE GOING TO BE HAPPY.
THAT'S REALLY WHAT IT BOILS DOWN TO. THAT'S WHY OUR INTERESTS ARE SO WELL ALIGNED THAT IF WE'RE NOT SOLVING THAT PROBLEM EVERY YEAR, 10 YEARS, 11 YEARS, 15 YEARS FROM NOW, THIS PROPERTY IS NOT EQUIVALENT TO MARKET OR IS IN WORSE SHAPE, AND PEOPLE DO NOT WANT TO LIVE THERE BECAUSE IT'S NOT SAFE OR WELL CONDITIONED.
YOU'RE GOING TO CANCEL THE LEASE.
THAT FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY AND OBLIGATION OF ALL THAT PROPERTY IN THOSE UNITS AND THOSE MAINTENANCE OF THAT WILL BE ON ME.
THERE'S A VERY HEALTHY ALIGNMENT OF INTEREST, MAKING SURE THAT THIS IS AN AMAZING PRODUCT TODAY, LONG PERIOD OF TIME.
AS TEXAS CONSTITUTIONAL LAW, EVERY SCHOOL DISTRICT, EVERY CITY HAS TO HAVE A LEASE AGREEMENT THAT IS SUBJECT TO APPROPRIATION.
BY CONSTITUTIONAL LAW, YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO CANCEL THAT LEASE ANY YEAR.
THAT'S A BIG REASON BECAUSE IT TAKES SOMEBODY WITH COMMON SENSE, SOMEBODY THAT KNOWS THE PROBLEM, THAT IS READY TO ANSWER TO PROVIDE THE SOLUTION.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE ONE OF THE FIRST ONES TO DO IT. TAKES A LOT OF RISK.
>> I LIKE THAT WE'RE SHARING IT. I LIKE DR. WRIGHT, MY ACTUARY BRAIN, RISK AVERSE.
IT MAKES YOU TWITCH JUST A LITTLE BIT.
I APPRECIATE, MS. CORSON AND YOURSELF, WILLING TO LOOK FOR THESE, I WANT TO SAY RISK TAKING ADVENTURES BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, BUT FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE, MAYBE MORE SO.
BUT SO JUST SHAMELESS PLUG AS THE END HERE.
IF YOU'RE LOOKING TO JUST DONATE AND MARKET THE IDEA,
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IF WE PROCEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, HAYES EDUCATION FOUNDATION, I WILL BE HAPPY TO HAVE YOU AS A SPONSOR TO HELP PROMOTE. THANKS.>> HEY, I FEEL LIKE THIS IS THE START OF A GREAT FRIENDSHIP, AND PARTNERSHIP.
I AM EXTREMELY EXCITED ABOUT THIS OPPORTUNITY.
BUT SOME OF THE TREPIDATION AND HESITATION YOU'RE HEARING FROM THE DIST IS THERE THERE WAS A FACEBOOK POST THAT WENT BANANAS AND PEOPLE ARE NOT INFORMED.
WE DON'T TYPICALLY HAVE A LOT OF ATTENDANCE HERE.
A FEW PEOPLE LISTEN ONLINE, BUT MOST OF THE TIME PEOPLE SPREAD MISINFORMATION AND FAKE NEWS AND THEY RUN WITH IT.
WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING BACK OUT TO WALK THROUGH SOME OF THIS.
I ASKED YOU LAST TIME, WHAT'S IN IT FOR YOU? THEN MR. SEIBEL ASKED WHAT ARE THE RISKS? I'D LIKE YOU TO SPEAK TO THAT AGAIN.
>> YEAH, I BELIEVE THIS IS A MASSIVE PROBLEM.
I BELIEVE IT'S A MASSIVE PROBLEM OF BILLIONS AND TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
THE COST OF LIVING IS NOT JUST GOING UP HERE, IT'S GONE UP EVERYWHERE.
I THINK RURAL DISTRICTS NEED THIS BECAUSE THEY HAVE NOTHING TO INCENTIVIZE TEACHERS TO WORK IN THE VALLEY BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING BUT NOT MUCH THERE, NOT AS MANY AMENITIES AS HERE.
SO WE'VE BEEN BLESSED TO BE GOOD REAL ESTATE DEVELOPERS AND MAKE MONEY AND PROVIDE A GREAT LIVING FOR OUR FAMILIES.
BUT WE DON'T GET MANY OPPORTUNITIES OR ANY TIMES TO SOLVE A MASSIVE PROBLEM.
SO IF WE MAKE A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY OVER A MASSIVE PROBLEM THAT'S OKAY.
AS LONG AS WE'RE GOOD DEVELOPERS, WE'RE GOOD BUILDERS.
AND IF WE CAN USE THOSE SKILL SETS AND THOSE ENTREPRENEURIAL SKILL SETS TO DO REALLY GOOD THINGS, IT'S GOING TO COME BACK TENFOLD.
THAT'S JUST THE WAY I'VE LIVED MY LIFE.
IT'S WAY I'VE BEEN FORTUNATE AND BLESSED AND WE'RE HAPPY TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT.
SO WE DO, DON'T MAKE THIS MISTAKE.
THERE IS A LARGE PHILANTHROPIC PART OF THIS THAT MAKES THIS ENTIRE FINANCIAL EQUATION WORK, BUT IT HAS TO BE COMMON SENSE, FUNDAMENTAL REAL ESTATE LAW THAT MAKES SENSE.
OTHERWISE, YOU CAN'T SOLVE A SCALABLE PROBLEM.
SO WE DO WE MAKE A SMALL AMOUNT OF MONEY, BECAUSE IF WE WERE GOING TO MAKE LIKE A TRADITIONAL AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPER, WE'D BE ASKING FOR 50% AT MARKET RATES THAT WE GET TO KEEP.
BUT TO REALLY SOLVE A PROBLEM WHERE YOU'VE GOT WELL OVER 20% OF YOUR STAFF IS LIVING IN A LESSER QUALITY TYPE CONDITION WITH AT THE SAME RATES OR MORE EXPENSIVE RATES, YOU JUST YOU GOT TO FLOAT IT THROUGH.
SO WE'RE REALLY COMMITTED TO IT.
WE'RE NOT SAINTS BUT WE'VE JUST GOT A SKILL SET THAT WE'RE REALLY APPLYING.
IF I WAS A DOCTOR AND I WENT ACROSS AND DID A MISSION TRIP AND DONATED MY DOCTOR SKILLS,YOU WOULDN'T QUESTION THAT AT ALL.
AND SINCE I'M A REALLY GOOD DEVELOPER AND A REALLY GOOD BUILDER.
PASSING IT THROUGH HERE TO A COMMUNITY I LIVE 11 MILES FROM AND I'VE GROWN UP HERE THAT'S WHAT IT MAKES SENSE.
AND I'D LOVE TO TAKE THIS LARGER, BUT I NEED TO TAKE CARE OF IT HERE FIRST.
BEFORE I DO IT ANYWHERE ELSE, I NEED TO BE ABLE TO STAND IN FRONT OF A COMMUNITY THAT GO GET MY GROCERIES AT AND I SHOP AND SEE AND HOPEFULLY I CAN LOOK YOU IN THE EYE AND YOU'LL BE PROUD OF ME. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE.
>> YEAH, THAT IS A BIG PIECE OF THIS TO ME.
YOU'RE LOCAL, WE KNOW WHERE TO FIND YOU.
YOU'RE NOT JUST COMING HERE AND SELLING A SNAKE OIL AND MOVING ON TO YOUR NEXT STATE OR PROPERTY, WHICH IS IMPORTANT TO ME.
AND SOME OF THE THINGS ON FACEBOOK WERE LIKE, "WELL, WHY AREN'T THEY JUST USING THAT MONEY FOR SALARIES?" AND IT'S IMPORTANT THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND $90,000,000, YOU'RE NOT JUST GIVING US FOR SALARIES BUT A BIG PART THEY ARE ALSO BENEFITS.
SO YOU HAVE YOUR PAYCHECK AND THEN YOU HAVE BENEFITS.
WE CANNOT INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF DOLLARS THAT WE CAN DOLE OUT FOR SALARIES ALL THE TIME.
BUT WHAT WE CAN DO IS COME UP WITH CREATIVE WAYS TO BOOST THE BENEFITS.
AND THAT'S WHAT THIS DOES AND YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE A LITTLE MONEY ON IT BECAUSE REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENTS, "HELLO, I'M GOING TO MAKE A KILLING ON MY HOUSE.
I COULDN'T AFFORD IT IF I MOVED OUT OF IT AND TRIED TO BUY IT BACK FROM MYSELF RIGHT NOW." SO I GET THAT PIECE.
I ALSO WANT ERIC TO WEIGH IN ON THIS BECAUSE HE CAME FROM FREDERICKSBURG, WHERE TEACHERS COULD NOT AFFORD TO LIVE IN THEIR HOMES OR IN LOCALLY.
AND SO WHAT DOES THE FUTURE LOOK LIKE, ERIC, IF WE DON'T GET AHEAD OF THIS? HAVING COME FROM A COMMUNITY WHERE EVERYONE HAD ZILLION DOLLAR HOMES AND YOU WERE TRYING TO HAVE TEACHERS LIVE THERE.
>> SO YOU END UP PUSHING THEM FURTHER AND FURTHER AWAY FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
AND SO IN THE CASE OF FREDERICKSBURG, WE HAD PEOPLE THAT HAD TO LIVE IN SAN ANTONIO AND DRIVE AND DEPENDING ON TRAFFICKING IT COULD BE AN HOUR AND A HALF.
AND SO EVENTUALLY THEY'RE GOING TO FIND A JOB IN SAN ANTONIO AND NOT COME WORK FOR YOU.
AND SO THE BENEFIT IS THAT YOU HAVE PEOPLE IN YOUR COMMUNITY THAT BECOME VESTED AND CONTINUITY IS HUGE AND SO FOR US,
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IF WE ARE ABLE TO RECRUIT AND RETAIN INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE QUALITY THEN WE HAVE THE GIFT OF CONTINUITY AND THAT ONLY TRICKLES DOWN IN A GOOD WAY TO OUR KIDS BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE EXPERTS THAT UNDERSTAND OUR SYSTEM AND CAN GIVE A QUALITY EDUCATION TO OUR KIDDOS.BUT THE DIFFERENCE IN THAT CASE, THE MONTH BEFORE YOU GUYS OFFERED ME THE JOB HERE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN FREDERICKSBURG AND THE WAY WE WERE GOING TO FUND IT WAS THROUGH A BOND AND WE WERE GOING TO USE OUR BOND CAPITAL.
AND THEN WE WERE GOING TO TAKE THE LEASE WE WERE GOING TO HAVE TO PROPERTY MANAGE.
SO MY MAX AND FREDERICKSBURG WAS GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF ALL THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT, ALL THE MAINTENANCE, ALL THE THINGS.
AND THEN THE MONEY FROM THE RENT WOULD GO BACK AND REPLENISH THE GENERAL FUND.
AND THAT'S WHAT A LOT OF SCHOOL DISTRICTS DO.
BUT HERE BECAUSE WE'RE GROWING SO FAST, WE DON'T HAVE THE ADDITIONAL CAPACITY TO EVEN LOOK AT SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO WHEN THIS WAS PRESENTED JUST MADE A LOT OF SENSE BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO UPFRONT CAPITAL.
IT DOESN'T IMPACT YOUR M&O BUDGET OR YOUR I&S BUDGET AT ALL.
>> WELL, SO THAT WAS ACTUALLY ONE OF MY QUESTIONS.
JUST TO REMIND US, WHO'S GOING TO MANAGE THE LOGISTICS AND LOOK AT LEASE APPLICATIONS AND RUN CREDIT SCORES.
WHAT I MEAN, WHO'S GOING TO MANAGE ALL THE LOGISTICS?
>> SO WE WILL AS A PRO MANAGEMENT COMPANY JUST LIKE IF YOU HAD AN APARTMENT COMPLEX OR A NEIGHBORHOOD IN TOWN AND YOU NEEDED TO LEASE IT UP, WE WILL BE MANAGING EVERYTHING.
SO ESSENTIALLY, WE'LL BE ISSUING YOU CONSTANT COMMUNICATION WITH YOUR STAFF ON REPORTS OF RELEASING, MOVING THEM IN AND ALL THESE THINGS, WE'LL BE MEETING WITH VERY INTIMATE WITH THE STAFF.
BECAUSE WE NEED TO RECRUIT WHAT YOU DON'T HAVE AND WE NEED TO RETAIN WHAT YOU'RE LOSING FIRST AS THE PRIORITY.
AND THEN THROUGH THAT EACH TIME SOMEBODY LEAVES, IT COSTS THE DISTRICT $20,000 IN TRAINING AND RESTAFFING.
SO WE'LL SOLVE THOSE PROBLEMS FIRST.
THAT'S WHY THE DISTRICT IS DOING THIS IS TO SOLVE THAT.
AND THEN THROUGH THE EXTRA UNITS WILL PROVIDE MORE THING.
BUT WE TAKE CARE OF EVERYTHING SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO HIRE ONE SINGLE PERSON.
YOUR QUESTION IS VERY REASONABLE.
AND JUST SO WE GOT VERY INTIMATE WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AT HURLEY, JUST LIKE YOU GUYS.
AND YOUR STAFF HAS BEEN GREAT AT SAYING, WE'RE GAME, BUT WE'RE NOT DOING X, Y AND Z, VERY FROM THE VERY BEGINNING.
AND SO WE MADE ACCOMMODATIONS TO SUPPORT ALL THOSE THINGS.
SO YES. AS THIS IS ANOTHER SCENARIO THAT'S A QUESTION THAT POPPED UP.
WHAT HAPPENS IF A TEACHER IS FIRED? CAN YOU MOVE THEM OUT? NO, IT'S NORMAL TEXAS REAL ESTATE LAW.
THEY'RE OBLIGATED FOR THAT LEASE, LIVING WITH THE COMMUNITY OF THEIR PEERS AND IF THEY DID SOMETHING WRONG, GET FIRED, THEY'RE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO STICK AROUND VERY LONG, BUT THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT LEASE AND WE WILL PURSUE THEM FOR THEIR DEFICIENCIES AND THEIR LEVERAGE BUT WE'LL HAVE A WAITING LIST.
AND SOMEBODY THAT WILL PLUG IN, ANOTHER STAFF MEMBER ON THE WAIT LIST READY TO GO THAT'S THERE.
THE MILITARY USED TO DO HOUSING FOR MILITARY, FORD USED TO DO HOUSING FOR THEIR WORK STAFF.
THIS IS NOT A COMPLETELY NEW CONCEPT.
IT'S JUST THAT YOU WERE THE FIRST PERSON BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF FINANCIAL RISK TO STEP UP AND DO IT FOR A SCHOOL DISTRICT.
>> WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ANSWERING THOSE QUESTIONS.
I JUST HAVE A COUPLE MORE THINGS.
YEAH, I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ANY TROUBLE FILLING THESE AT ALL.
BUT MS. CORSON DOES HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF EXPERIENCE BEING A PROPERTY MANAGER WITH THE CHLOE BECAUSE WE ARE MANAGING SOME OF THAT OURSELVES WITH THE FIRST COME FIRST SERVE, I THINK IS HOW WE DID IT.
BUT THANK YOU FOR BEING ABLE TO TAKE THAT ON.
WOULD YOU BE OPEN TO ALLOWING SOME OF OUR KIDS AND OUR CTE CLASSES ON YOUR CONSTRUCTION SITES THAT ARE DOING LIKE THE BUILDER PROGRAMS?
>> ABSOLUTELY. WE ALSO WORKING ON TEXAS UNIVERSITY.
I'M LOOKING AT DOING SEVERAL INTERNSHIP PROGRAMS FOR THEM AS AN ALUMNI FROM SOUTHWEST TEXAS.
ABSOLUTELY. I SAW YOU GOING TO GOT THE REAL ESTATE LICENSE, I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT THAT COURSE.
I TOLD MY DAUGHTERS JUST TO GET THEIR REAL ESTATE LICENSE, SO I WOULD BE EVEN VERY HAPPY TO SUPPORT THAT PROGRAM.
SUBSTANTIALLY SINCE WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PROPERTIES IN CENTRAL TEXAS THAT WE AND OUR SALES PROGRAM THAT SELLS THINGS. SO YES.
>> THAT IS GREAT. AND WE HAVE A LOT OF PARTNERS.
OUR ARCHITECTS ARE GREAT ABOUT INTRODUCING OUR KIDS THAT ARE IN THESE PROGRAMS TO ALL THE BUILDINGS THAT WE'RE GOING ON AROUND HERE.
BUT RESIDENTIAL OPPORTUNITIES, I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE AS MANY OF THOSE OPPORTUNITIES.
SO MR. RICK MU IS IN THE BACK YOU NEED TO MEET HIM AND HOPEFULLY THAT CAN BE A THING.
MR.SEVERANCE, I WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO MAYBE MAKE A MEETING WITH OUR FRIEND HERE AND MR. WRIGHT TO GET MORE DETAILS.
I DID WRITE YOURS DOWN BUT YOU WEAR A BUSINESS MAN'S HAT VERY WELL AND I APPRECIATED YOUR QUESTIONS.
FOR YOU TO FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THIS.
I THINK YOU OUGHT TO SIT DOWN AND ASK EVEN HARDER QUESTIONS IF YOU NEED TO JUST TO FEEL COMFORTABLE.
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I FEEL REALLY GOOD ABOUT THIS AND I AM EXCITED TO BE FIRST AND AN INNOVATOR AND LEADING EDGE ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS.WE HEAR ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING ALL THE TIME AND YOU'RE RIGHT, THEY'LL BUILD AN APARTMENT AND 10% WILL BE AFFORDABLE AND THE REST WILL BE AT MARKET.
THIS IS VERY DIFFERENT AND IT'S HOUSES, WHICH IS ALSO NEW AND DIFFERENT.
I WILL SAY ONCE THIS GETS APPROVED, IF IT GETS APPROVED, MS. CORSON FOR SOME OF THE MISINFORMATION THAT'S CIRCLING TO HAVE MAYBE YOUR TEAM SEND OUT SOMETHING THAT JUST SUMMARIZES WHAT WE'VE DONE, SO THAT THE GRASSROOTS COMMUNICATORS, BECAUSE OUR STAFF ARE USUALLY PRETTY GOOD AT STAMPING OUT MISINFORMATION WHEN IT'S ON FACEBOOK, THEY'LL COME AND CORRECT THE RECORD.
AND THIS ONE SOUND SO GOOD TO BE TRUE THAT IT HAS TO BE.
BUT I FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT YOU'RE A STAND UP GUY.
YOU CARE ABOUT THIS COMMUNITY, YOU'RE WILLING TO PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS AND HELP US OUT THE SOLUTION AND WE WANT TO BE THAT SHINING STAR DISTRICT FOR YOU.
WE DO HAVE AMAZING PEOPLE, WE DO HAVE AN AMAZING BOARD.
I CAN'T PROMISE YOU 10 YEARS FROM NOW THAT THAT WILL ALL BE THE SAME.
BUT RIGHT NOW THIS PLACE IS ROCKING AND YOU ARE SMART TO PARTNER WITH US AND I'M EXCITED TO SEE WHERE THIS GOES.
>> THANK YOU, JASON. THANK YOU, MS. CORSON.
YEAH. ANYTIME THAT WE CAN MAKE THE LIVES OF OUR EMPLOYEES BETTER, WE CERTAINLY WANT TO JUMP ON THAT AND TACKLE THAT.
I'M NOT GOING TO REHASH EVERYTHING THAT THEY'VE ASKED AND SAID BECAUSE I PRETTY MUCH HAVE EXACTLY WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY AND ASK.
I'M IN SUPPORT OF THIS WHERE I'M AT RIGHT NOW IS WHERE MR. SEVERANCE IS A LITTLE BIT.
AND I ASKED THIS EARLIER THROUGH BOARD BLOG BECAUSE I KNOW WE GOT THE LETTER THIS AFTERNOON FROM THE FISHER FIRM WITH THE BENEFITS AND THE RISKS.
AND I WOULD JUST OUR BOARD ATTORNEY TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND GIVE US THE SAME SUMMARY.
AND ONCE WE HAVE THAT THEN I WOULD BE COMFORTABLE WITH VOTING ON THIS.
THIS IS A RISK. IT'S MORE OF A RISK ON YOU, JASON, BUT IT CAN BECOME A RISK FOR US IF YOU GUYS COME TO US, MS. CORSON AND ASK US TO APPROVE MONEY THAT WE DON'T HAVE, BECAUSE THE ANSWER IS GOING TO BE NO LIKELY.
BECAUSE THEN THE TAXPAYERS ARE GOING TO COME BACK AND SAY, YOU SAID THIS WASN'T GOING TO COST US ANY MONEY AND THEN NOW WE'RE TURNING AROUND AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ASK FOR MONEY. WE CAN'T DO THAT.
SO IT IS GOING TO BE A COLLECTIVE EFFORT AND PARTNERSHIP.
I'M NOT IN THE HOUSING BUSINESS, I DON'T WANT TO BE IN THE HOUSING BUSINESS.
THIS PUTS US IN THE HOUSING BUSINESS.
I CAN'T SIT UP HERE AND SAY, "OH, YEAH, WE NEED ALL THESE HOUSES." I'M TRUSTING THAT ALL OF YOU HAVE DONE ALL OF YOUR RESEARCH AND KNOW ALL OF THAT.
WE SEE OUR DEMOGRAPHERS REPORTS, WE KNOW WE'RE A GROWING COUNTY.
BUT AGAIN I SIT ON A LENS OF A LAWYER SIDE AND SO WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THINGS, I SEE WHAT OUR DISTRICT ATTORNEYS ARE SAYING BUT FOR US WE HAVE OUR OWN BOARD ATTORNEYS AND I WOULD JUST LIKE THEM TO WEIGH IN ON IT IF WE'RE THE ONES THAT ARE HAVING TO VOTE ON THIS.
I LOVE THAT YOU TOUCHED ON THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT BECAUSE WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO BE IN THAT.
I KNOW THAT THOSE 240 SOME ODD COMMENTS THAT WE SAW ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
SOME OF THAT WAS, DISCRIMINATION.
HOW DO YOU MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE NOT DISCRIMINATING AGAINST EMPLOYEES? AND THAT GOES BACK TO, THERE'S LAW THAT YOU CANNOT CERTAIN THINGS.
SO YOU GUYS ARE FOLLOWING THE SAME LAWS AND THE SAME GUIDELINES THAT ANYBODY ELSE WOULD ANYWHERE ELSE.
SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S CLEAR.
BUT I DO THINK I LIKE MS. PETREA'S IDEA OF YOU MS. CORSON JUST TAKING A SUMMARY OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THE BENEFITS OF THIS AND PUTTING IT OUT THERE TO SHUT DOWN SOME OF THE MISCONCEPTIONS OF WHAT THIS IS.
YOU'RE LIKELY NOT MAKING JUST A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY, JASON.
THERE'S PROBABLY A LOT OF MONEY YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO END UP MAKING AT THE END OF THIS.
LET'S JUST CALL IT LIKE IT IS.
BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF WE ARE GOING TO GET IN THE BUSINESS OF THE HOUSING MARKET, THEN WE ARE REALLY, REALLY GOING TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE ONE FILLING THOSE UNITS AND THAT THAT PARTNERSHIP STAYS A CONSISTENT PARTNERSHIP AND IN CONSTANT COMMUNICATION BECAUSE ONCE IT STARTS DIPPING BELOW THAT RESERVE ACCOUNT, WE HAVE A PROBLEM.
I LOVE EVERY TIME YOU COME TO US AND YOU HAVE ANOTHER IDEA OF HOW TO IMPROVE THE LIVES OF OUR EMPLOYEES.
YOU'VE GOTTEN FEEDBACK FROM OUR TEACHER OR REPS WHO HAVE SUPPORTED THIS.
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I'M HAPPY TO SUPPORT IT TOO.I AM JUST GOING TO THROW THIS OUT THERE.
ONE OF THE COMMENTS AND THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU, JASON.
BUT ONE OF THE COMMENTS THAT WE SAW OUT THERE IS PEOPLE HAVING TO STRETCH THEIR DOLLAR AND A LOT OF OUR EMPLOYEES ARE ONLY PAID ONCE A MONTH.
I HAVE SAID ON THE DIAS AND SAID THIS A COUPLE OF TIMES, THAT IF WE WANT TO GET REAL REAL EMPLOYEE FRIENDLY, WE ALSO NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT PAYING OUR EMPLOYEES MORE THAN ONCE A MONTH AND WE NEED TO MAKE THAT A GOAL AND REALLY LOOK AT THAT.
I'M HAPPY TO SUPPORT THIS. THANK YOU FOR PRESENTING THIS.
THIS IS A VERY LARGE INVESTMENT ON YOUR PART AND THANK YOU FOR WANTING TO PARTNER WITH US. I APPRECIATE IT.
I LOVE THAT YOU COMMUTE AROUND HERE AND I CAN TELL YOU WE CAN'T GO INTO A GROCERY STORE STORE WITHOUT GETTING HIT UP.
SO I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT IF THIS DOESN'T WORK OUT, YOU'RE GOING TO BE GETTING HIT UP QUITE A BIT.
I KEEP BRINGING EMPLOYEE INITIATIVES TO US.
WE WANT TO KEEP SUPPORTING THINGS AS LONG AS IT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF OUR EMPLOYEES BUT ALSO OUR TAXPAYERS.
SO THANK YOU. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE, SORRY, JASON.
>> THANK YOU FOR THAT. I WOULD HIGHLY ENCOURAGE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS IN THE IMMEDIATE FUTURE.
DO YOU KNOW THAT WE LOOKED AT SIX PROPERTIES AND TWO OF THOSE PROPERTIES WERE APPROACHED WITH MULTIPLE OFFERS NO LONGER AVAILABLE TO US.
AND THAT'S JUST BECAUSE EVERYTHING'S THAWING OUT, THE ECONOMY'S MOVING AND PEOPLE ARE CONFIDENT IN WHERE THINGS ARE GOING.
AND SO I WANT YOU TO BE COMFORTABLE, I WANT YOU TO WANT THIS.
I'M OFFERING AN AMAZING THING BUT IT DOESN'T WORK WITHOUT A WILLING AND WANTING PARTY THAT SEES THAT THIS IS AN ACTUAL SOLUTION BECAUSE WHAT WOULD CONCERN ME IS IF THIS WAS JUST FREE OPTION IN A NAPKIN AND WE DON'T NEED IT MAYBE THEN THAT $90,000,000 IS GONE.
SO I WANT TO SAY I KNOW THE PROBLEM, WE'VE INTIMATELY WORKING VERY HARD WITH YOUR STAFF.
I WOULD GIVE YOU ALL THE RESOURCES I CAN TO HELP YOU FEEL AS COMFORTABLE AND KNOW THAT ALL THE WORK THAT WE'VE DONE TO HELP YOU.
BUT JUST DEFINITELY KNOW THAT THE WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE DISTRICT IN LOCATIONS IS SHORT AND SO I JUST WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT.
>> JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
FOR THE DISTRICT STANDPOINT, HOLD HARMLESS, I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FINANCES, BUT JUST FROM A LIABILITY STANDPOINT, WE'RE RELEASED FROM ANYTHING THAT WHATEVER EMERGENCIES OR THE WORKMANSHIP OR THE SHIFTING OF LAND AND SOMEBODY GETS INJURED OR A CAR IS TOTAL, WE'RE NOT HELD LIABLE FOR ANY OF THOSE HAPPENINGS, AM I CORRECT ON THAT?
>> THAT IS CORRECT. WE HAVE TO HAVE INSURANCE JUST LIKE WE WOULD ANYTHING ELSE THAT WILL COVER US THAT COVERS YOU.
THE INSURANCE FROM TASK IS A BIT OF A CHALLENGE.
WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO USE TASK BEFORE PROPERTY INTEREST COVERAGE, BUT WE'RE WORKING WITH OUR INSURANCE GROUPS WHO DO INSURE MUNICIPALITIES FOR THAT.
WE WOULD PROTECT YOU JUST LIKE I'M THE LANDLORD, JUST PROTECTING ANY OTHER LEASING AGENT SO IT'S NOT UNCOMMON TO BE FULLY PROTECTED FROM LIABILITY SO YOU'RE NOT EXPOSED TO THAT.
>> I DO AGREE THAT WE PROBABLY WOULD END UP HAVING A WAITING LIST AND THAT WOULD BE A GREAT PROBLEM TO HAVE.
WHAT KIND OF POLICIES ARE WE GOING TO HAVE TO COME UP WITH ON IF SOMEBODY DOES LEAVE THE DISTRICT AND THEY'RE IN ONE OF THESE HOUSES? I KNOW THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME ADMINISTRATIVE ASPECTS THAT WE DO HAVE TO TAKE OWNERSHIP ON THAT. HAVE WE THOUGHT ABOUT THAT ALREADY?
>> WE HAVE 20 PLUS YEARS OF EVERY BAD SITUATION YOU CAN IMAGINE THAT'S HAPPENED.
WE DO WOULDN'T EXPECT YOU TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH PROFESSIONAL REAL ESTATE PROBLEMS, YOU'RE PROFESSIONAL EDUCATORS SO WE'RE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF ALL OF THOSE SCENARIOS AND ADVISE THE BEST WAY YOU CAN HANDLE THOSE THINGS WITH GUIDANCE OF PATH OF LEAST AMOUNT OF FRICTION ALSO SOMETIMES IT HELPS TO GET A LOT FURTHER WITH HONEY THAN IT DOES TO VINEGAR SO I WILL BE THERE AIDING IN THAT SITUATION BECAUSE IT BENEFITS US.
FOR EVERY MONTH THAT YOU HAVE A PROBLEM AND SOMEBODY IS NOT IN A UNIT OR NEEDS TO LEAVE THAT COMES OUT OF THE RESERVE MONEY THAT I POSTED FOR YOUR ASSURANCES SO WE'RE THERE TO MAKE SURE THOSE PROBLEMS ARE SOLVED FAST.
>> NOT THAT I EXPECT STAFF. WE HAVE A VERY LOW TURNOVER RATE.
WE HAVE GREAT STAFF, SO I'M JUST THROWN AT THOSE WORST CASE SCENARIOS.
THEN JASON, YOU HEARD A COUPLE OF WISH LISTS.
WE'RE LOOKING FOR A 2,800 STUDENT HIGH SCHOOL, JUST SAYING. I'M KIDDING.
>> WE ARE LOOKING AT DOING SOME AMAZING THINGS IN THE AMENITIES SECTION BECAUSE WE'RE UP TO 300 HOUSES ALLOW US TO ALLOCATE A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF EACH HOUSE FOR BETTER AMENITIES.
WE'RE LOOKING AT THE CHILDCARE FACILITY, THESE ARE STRATEGICALLY LOCATED TO CUT DOWN ON COMMUTES, GAS MILEAGE, EVERY POINT OF SAVING WE'RE LOOKING AT BECAUSE YOU'RE FIRST, WE'RE MAKING SOME EXTRA LARGER DONATION DOLLARS TO MAKE THIS EXTRA AMAZING TO REWARD YOU FOR BEING FIRST PLUS I LIVE HERE.
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IT JUST NEEDS TO BE AMAZING IN THE SHOWCASE SO WE'RE GOING TO DO SOME EXTRA THINGS IN THE AMENITIES PORTION OF THIS TOO BECAUSE I'M THANKFUL.ALSO JUST UNDERSTAND IF THE MORE OF AN AMAZING COMMUNITY THIS IS OR THE STAFF, IF YOU DID CANCEL THE LEASE, I NEED IT TO BE AN AMAZING COMMUNITY SO I CAN PAY IT OFF.
I GOT TO FILL IT WITH MARKET RENTS OR SOMETHING ELSE SO THERE'S JUST A SECURITY BLANKET FOR ME TO MAKE IT EVEN MORE SPECIAL.
IT MAKES IT LESS RISKY, THE BETTER IT IS.
>> UNDERSTOOD. WELL, TEAM, WE'VE HEARD A GREAT PRESENTATION NOW A COUPLE OF TIMES.
AGAIN, QUESTIONS WE CAN SUBMIT THOSE OR ANY OTHER FOLLOW UP DISCUSSION THANK YOU AGAIN FOR BRINGING THIS TONIGHT.
[M.3. Consideration and possible approval of Ratification of an Emergency Expenditure - Lennox]
CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE APPROVAL OF A RATIFICATION OF AN EMERGENCY EXPENDITURE FOR LINUX.THIS IS A PRETTY MUNDANE ITEM.
IT'S JUST A RATIFICATION OF AN EMERGENCY PURCHASE OF HEAT EXCHANGERS FROM LINUX FOR PFLUEGER, KYLE, AND CHAPA MIDDLE SCHOOL, IN THE AMOUNT OF $52,050.
>> JUST FOR ANYBODY LISTENING, MR. CLEAVER, CAN YOU TELL US, AGAIN, WHY IS THE EMERGENCY WORD IN THIS QUICK OVERVIEW.
>> YES, SIR. WE WENT AHEAD AND WHEN YOU PURCHASE SOMETHING WITHOUT APPROVAL WE HAVE TO THEN RATIFY IT AND GET AN EMERGENCY RATIFICATION FROM ALL TO MAKE THE PURCHASE LEGIT.
>> I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE AND CLARIFY, BECAUSE I KNOW WHEN I READ THIS ORIGINALLY, DR. WRIGHT AND I AND EVERYBODY AGENDA SETTING, I WAS LIKE, WHAT EMERGENCY DID WE HAVE? BUT WE WERE JUST-.
>> WE WERE TRYING TO ACTUALLY GET THESE PARTS PURCHASED BEFORE THE COLD SNAP THAT SIR WENT THROUGH, AND SO WE DIDN'T QUITE MAKE IT, BUT WE WERE CLOSE.
>> GOOD DEAL. TEAM, I WILL LOOK TO MY RIGHT ANY QUESTIONS.
>> IS FLICKR SUPPOSED TO BE LISTED TWICE ON THIS [OVERLAPPING]?
>> IT IS NOT. I SEE THAT THAT IS LISTED TWICE.
>> IS THERE ANOTHER CAMPUS THAT SHOULD BE IN PLACE OF THAT?
I DON'T THINK SO. LET ME FIND OUT FOR YOU.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON MY RIGHT? QUESTIONS ON MY LEFT.
EASY ENOUGH, MR. CLEAVER, AND FOR CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE APPROVAL OF
[M.4. Consideration and possible approval of Ratification of an Emergency Expenditure - Trane]
RATIFICATION OF AN EMERGENCY EXPENDITURE FOR TRAIN.>> YES, SIR SO IT'S BASICALLY THE IDENTICAL ISSUE.
THE HEAT EXCHANGERS WE'RE GOING AT, AND WE DO, OF COURSE, USE OEM PARTS ON THAT.
YOU DON'T JUST TRY TO FIT A HEAT EXCHANGER IN A UNIT SO THAT'S FROM TRAIN FOR CAMINO REAL, CARPENTER HILL, BLANCO VISTA, NEGLEY AND SCIENCE HALL, IN THE AMOUNT OF 65,114.
>> LOOKING AT MY LEFT. ANY QUESTIONS? LOOKING RIGHT, MS. RUNKLE?
>> NO. BUT ACTUALLY, IF YOU WILL GIVE US, DID YOU BREAK THIS OUT BY COST FOR EACH CAMPUS ON BOTH OF THESE TRANSMITTALS, DID YOU SUBMIT THAT TO US IN THAT MEMO?
>> I DO NOT KNOW I'M CERTAIN WE HAVE IT BY CAMPUS IN ORDER TO GET THE TOTAL, THOUGH, YOU JUST BREAK IT OUT BY CAMPUS FOR US, PLEASE?
>> TEAM, THAT'LL TAKE US TO ITEM M5.
[M.5. Consideration and possible approval of a Non-Standard Service Agreement for Water with County Line Special Utility District at Ramage Elementary School]
CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE APPROVAL OF A NON STANDARD SERVICE AGREEMENT FOR WATER WITH COUNTY LINE SPECIAL UTILITY DISTRICT AT RAMAGE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.MR. CLEAVER YOU WANT TO GIVE US A QUICK OVERVIEW?
>> YES, SIR. SO THE COUNTY LINE SPECIAL UTILITY DISTRICT IS THE ACTUAL SERVICE PROVIDER IN THE AREA.
IT'S NOT LIKE WE CAN SHOP OUR WATER SERVICE.
THAT IS THE SERVICE PROVIDER WE ARE AT THE POINT NOW WHERE THEY'RE ACTUALLY READY TO INSTALL THOSE LINES.
NORMALLY, YOU WOULD SEE AN EASEMENT ALSO ASSOCIATED WITH THIS, BUT IN THAT PARTICULAR LAND TRANSACTION, THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO PUT ALL OF THE VALVES AND THE BOXES AND ALL OF THE THINGS RELATED ON THE PERIMETER OF THAT PROPERTY.
THERE'S A 10 FOOT UTILITY EASEMENT ALL THE WAY AROUND THAT PROPERTY ALREADY, SO IT'S ALREADY BEEN GRANTED IN THE PLATE.
>> TEAM, I'LL LOOK TO MY LEFT. ANY QUESTIONS, MR. SEVERANCE.
WHAT'S A LIVING UNIT EQUIVALENT? LIKE HOW MUCH WATER IS THAT? LIKE 71 LIVING UNIT EQUIVALENT? ABSOLUTELY.
YES THE TERM IS AN INDUSTRY STANDARD, LUE.
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HOW MUCH WATER A HOUSE USES.NOW, THE THING IS, THOUGH, WHAT I'VE LEARNED IS IT'S NOT EVEN THOUGH LUE IS A STANDARD ACRONYM, THE AMOUNT VARIES.
THE AMOUNT OF ACTUAL GALLONS CAN VARY.
IT'S GENERALLY PRETTY CLOSE, BUT IT SOMETIMES VARIES A LITTLE BIT, BUT LUE IS A LIVING UNIT EQUIPMENT EQUAL TO ONE HOUSE, ONE HOME.
>> THAT'S PLENTY. WE DON'T NEED 72.
[LAUGHTER] FOUR I'M NOT TRYING TO SOUND CRAZY.
I'M JUST SAYING I KNOW THAT'S LIKE WITH MCCORMACK, WE EXPANDED MCCORMACK, AND I THINK THAT PUT A STRAIN ON THE SUBJECT SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE OVERBOUGHT OUR LIVING UNIT EQUIVALENTS.
>> OR RAVAGE O ELEMENTARY FOREVER.
I THINK I THINK WE'RE WELL PROVISIONED AT 71 LUES.
>> THE ONE ITEM I DO FOR NEXT MONDAY, IF I WOULD BE ALLOWED TO, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD ON THE SUGGESTION MOTION.
I JUST FORGOT TO ADD AND AUTHORIZE SUP AND BOARD PRESIDENT TO EXECUTE THE DOCUMENTS.
THAT HAS BEEN HELPFUL IN TRANSACTIONS WHEN THEY FORGET A DOCUMENT OR SOMETHING AND THEY HAVE TO COME BACK FOR US, AND IF THAT WOULD BE OKAY, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THOSE WORDS TO THE MOTION.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE LEFT? QUESTIONS ON MY RIGHT.
MR. CLEAVER, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT.
TEAM, WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE JUST A SMALL RECESS.
WE'LL BE BACK ON THE DICE IN 10 MINUTES.
TEAM, WE ARE GOING TO GO BACK IN OUR AGENDA.
THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME THAT FLEXIBILITY, SO WE CAN HAVE SOME STREAMLINED CONVERSATIONS.
WE ARE GOING TO GO BACK TO M1 ON PAGE 16.
[M.1. Consideration and possible action to adopt an order calling for a school bond election to be held on May 3, 2025]
M ONE IS CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO ADOPT AN ORDER CALLING FOR A SCHOOL BOND ELECTION TO BE HELD ON MAY 3, 2025.>> MR. SAVOY, YOU WANT TO GIVE US THE SUCCINCT OVERVIEW.
>> I'M SORRY WHAT? [LAUGHTER] MR. PRESIDENT, SUPERINTENDENT WRIGHT, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
THIS IS WHERE WE'RE AT FROM THE LAST MEETING, I GUESS, LAST WEDNESDAY, NOT YESTERDAY, BUT A WEEK AGO WE'RE AT A POINT WHERE WE NEED TO GET CONSENSUS FROM YOU SO THAT WE CAN TURN THIS OVER TO OUR ATTORNEYS, OUR BOND COUNSEL TO DRAFT AN ELECTION ORDER FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION ON MONDAY YOU'LL NOTE THAT WE MADE THE CHANGES AS DISCUSSED AT YOUR WORKSHOP.
LAST WEEK, AND THEY ARE INCORPORATED INTO THIS DOCUMENT.
WE'VE ALSO COLLAPSED WHAT WOULD HAVE BEEN PROPOSITION B AND C ON THE HIGH SCHOOL JUST INTO ONE SINGLE ONE BECAUSE MAX AND THE ARCHITECTS AND EVERYONE, I BELIEVE THAT'S IN VALUE ENGINEERING, AND WE'RE ABLE TO GET THAT BUILDING UNDER $400 MILLION FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE HIGH SCHOOL I WOULD POINT OUT AGAIN, I'M COMPARING HIGH SCHOOL TO HIGH SCHOOL.
THIS IS FOR THE FULL 2,800 STUDENT CAPACITY HIGH SCHOOL THAT'S BEING RECOMMENDED, WHICH IS OUR NEW NOW STUDENT CAPACITY AT HIGH SCHOOL WHEN JOHNSON HIGH SCHOOL OPENED STARTING WITH 2017 CONSTRUCTION AND OPENING DATE OF 2019, AT THE TIME THE DISTRICT HAD A 2,250 STUDENT CAPACITY HIGH SCHOOL, AND THAT'S WHY IT WAS A LITTLE SMALLER THAN THIS SCHOOL, BUT WE HAVE SINCE EXPANDED ON TO JOHNSON TO BRING IT UP TO 2,800.
SAME WITH OUR OTHER SCHOOLS. I THINK THERE'S OTHER PARTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS, MAYBE EVEN IN THIS BOND PACKAGE TO DO THAT.
BUT THIS HIGH SCHOOL WOULD JUST START OUT WITH WHERE WE'RE AT NOW.
AT A 2,800 STUDENT CAPACITY VERSUS 2,250.
AGAIN, THE LARGER HIGH SCHOOL DOES A LOT OF THINGS, BUT ONE OF THE PRIMARY THINGS IT DOES IS IT SAVES OPERATIONAL EXPENSES FOR TAXPAYERS.
IT'S MORE EFFICIENT BECAUSE EVERY HIGH SCHOOL, YOU HAVE TO HAVE CERTAIN SERVICES AND THINGS YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PRINCIPAL AND ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL AND ALL THE DIFFERENT STAFF THAT WOULD GO UNIQUELY WITH EACH BUILDING.
THERE ARE OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCIES WITH THE LARGER HIGH SCHOOL, AND THAT WAS A DECISION THE DISTRICT MADE BETWEEN OUR LAST HIGH SCHOOL AND THIS ONE, TO CHANGE OUR STANDARD BASED MODEL.
OF HIGH SCHOOLS THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE ON THERE.
ANYWAY, WE'RE DOWN TO FOUR PROPOSITIONS.
WHAT'LL HAPPEN TONIGHT WHEN YOU GET TO A POINT WHERE YOU'RE DONE DISCUSSING WHICH INDIVIDUAL LINE ITEMS YOU WANT OFF OF HERE OR ADD ON HERE IF YOU'RE FINE WITH THE PROPOSITIONS, WE WILL THEN WE HAVE A CALL SET WITH OUR BOND COUNCIL TOMORROW AT 10:00 IN THE MORNING.
WE'RE GOING TO GO OVER AND WE'RE GOING TO DOUBLE CHECK THAT EVERYTHING MEETS CRITERIA AND IS PROPERLY POSITIONED IN A PROPOSITION THAT IT'S OKAY TO BE IN, OR IF IT NEEDS TO BE IN ITS OWN, ALL THAT STUFF.
WE'RE GOING TO DO ALL THOSE, DOTTINGS OF THE I'S AND CROSSINGS OF THE T'S THEN WE WILL GET THAT BOND ELECTION ORDER DRAFTED.
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NOW, THIS PIECE OF PAPER EFFECTIVELY GOES AWAY MORE OR LESS AFTER TONIGHT.BUT WHAT HAPPENS FROM HERE, NEXT PIECE OF PAPER IS GOING TO BE, LIKE I EMAILED TO ALL OF YOU EARLIER, THE DRAFT BOND ELECTION ORDER.
IT'LL ALL BE TEXT BASED BY PROPOSITION.
YOU'LL SEE THE BALLOT LANGUAGE PROPOSED AND ALL THAT THEN FROM THAT DOCUMENT, IF YOU ADOPT THAT AND DECIDE ON MY DAY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A BOND, THEN WE WILL TAKE THIS DOCUMENT, AND IT WILL TURN INTO A MORE ROBUST VOTER INFORMATION SHEET WITH A MUCH MORE DETAIL.
WE DON'T BOTHER WITH THE LAYOUT AND DESIGN ON THAT AT THIS STAGE BECAUSE THESE THINGS CHANGE UP SO MUCH.
BUT WE WILL DESIGN A VERY READER FRIENDLY, MUCH MORE DETAILED VOTER INFORMATION SHEET MOVING FORWARD, IF YOU CALL FOR A BOND, AND WE HOPE DIGITALLY TO LINK THAT VOTING INFORMATION SHEET WITH DIFFERENT RENDITIONS AND BACKGROUND MATERIAL FOR A LOT OF THESE ITEMS, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT A LOT OF FOLKS HAVE ASKED FOR THAT, AND THAT JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT PUBLICLY, THAT WOULD BE COMING IF YOU CALL FOR A BOND ELECTION THEY'LL HAVE THAT INFORMATION IN TIME TO MAKE A DECISION BEFORE THEY GO TO THE POLLS IN MAY.
>> THANK YOU, MR. SAVOY THEN ALSO, I SHOULD HAVE STATED THAT WE COULD ALSO INCLUDE INFORMATION ITEM IN TWO, ESPECIALLY REGARDING FEEDBACK.
WE DON'T NEED A SEPARATE INFORMATION ITEM.
THIS IS, I GUESS, THE DISCUSSION OF THE ACTION ITEM BECAUSE WE'RE AT A POINT NOW WHERE WE HAVE THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM.
WE'RE HOPING TO PRESENT YOU SOMETHING ON MONDAY TO VOTE, AND THEN WE'LL GO FROM THERE THERE'S NO SEPARATE FEEDBACK.
WE'VE GIVEN YOU ALL THE BOND TIME.
>> I WOULD SAY THAT I KNOW THAT FOLKS WHO WATCH US ONLINE HERE HAVE SEEN THAT WE'VE HAD THREE PUBLIC FORUMS FOR THE BOND.
WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY SPEAKERS COME IN PERSON.
THAT'S JUST ONE OF THE WAYS THEY CAN FEED.
WE'VE GOTTEN, SEVERAL DOZEN, ALMOST 50, I THINK COMMENTS COMING IN JUST ON OUR DIGITAL FEEDBACK THAT ALL HAVE HAD ACCESS TO THEN ALSO, WE DON'T WANT TO DISCOUNT THAT THE DISCUSSIONS THAT FOLKS HAVE ON SOCIAL MEDIA IN THE COMMUNITY.
THOSE ARE ALL MESSAGES THAT MANY OF YOU CAN SEE AND HEAR AND HAVE USED THAT INFORMATION IN FORMULATING YOUR DECISIONS RIGHT NOW AGAIN, WHAT YOU'RE TASKED WITH IS DECIDING WHETHER TO ASK THE VOTERS TO AUTHORIZE THE SALE OF BONDS FOR THESE PROJECTS.
YOU'RE NOT DECIDING TO BUILD ANY OF THIS.
YOU'RE JUST DECIDING WHAT WILL APPEAR ON THE BALLOT IT WILL BE THE VOTERS ULTIMATELY THAT DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT A BOND GOES FORWARD, AND THAT'S THE BEAUTY OF THE PROCESS GOING FULL CIRCLE.
A BOND PROCESS STARTS WITH THE COMMUNITY AND OUR CITIZEN FACILITIES AND BOND OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE PANEL, AND THEIR NETWORKS OF FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY DEVELOP A PROPOSAL.
THEY MAKE A INITIAL RECOMMENDATION TO YOU, WHICH OCCURRED LAST NOVEMBER.
YOU PUT IT OUT FOR PUBLIC FEEDBACK THERE'S ADDITIONAL PUBLIC INPUT ON IT.
YOU AS ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES OF THE PEOPLE.
THEN IF YOU DECIDE TO CALL FOR A BOND ELECTION, ALL OF IT ONCE PUT TOGETHER IN A PACKAGE GOES RIGHT BACK TO THE COMMUNITY, AND IT IS THE COMMUNITY THAT ULTIMATELY MAKES A DECISION, YES OR NO.
WE'RE GOING TO ADOPT AND APPROVE THE SALE OF BONDS.
>> THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THAT OVERVIEW.
TEAM, WE'VE NOW HEARD FROM THE DILIGENT EFFORTS OF OUR FBOC COMMITTEE.
THANK YOU TO THEM. WE'VE HEARD ADMINISTRATION.
WE HAVE SEEN SEVERAL ITERATIONS OF THIS NOW, AS WELL AS PUBLIC FEEDBACK.
THEN OF COURSE, LAST MEETING, WE HEARD FROM OUR FINANCIAL ADVISORS WELL THAT TALK TO US ABOUT BOND CAPACITY.
WE KNOW THE LAY OF THE LAND, IF YOU WILL, ON WHERE WE STAND IN TERMS OF BOND CAPACITY, AND THEN OF COURSE THE NEEDS OF OUR DISTRICT.
WITH THAT SAID, IF THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN SUBMITTED, LET'S TO SEE WHAT QUESTIONS ANYBODY HAS. MS. OROSCO?
>> I DON'T REALLY HAVE A QUESTION, BUT DR. WRIGHT, LAST TIME THAT WE MET, YOU TALKED ABOUT HOW IT IS NOW LEGALLY REQUIRED TO PAY DOWN THE DEBT, BECAUSE WE USED TO PUT THAT IN OUR BROCHURE THAT WE WERE GOING WE WERE COMMITTED TO PAYING DOWN THE DEBT, BUT NOW IT'S LEGALLY REQUIRED.
>> YES. IN FACT, MAYBE WE STARTED THE TREND.
WE DIDN'T USE TO PUT IT IN, ALL OF THEM.
>> STILL HAVE IT FROM, BELIEVE IT WAS 2014, IF NOT, IT WAS DEFINITELY 2017 BOND WHERE WE STARTED THAT.
>> 2017 BOND IS WHEN I WAS ON THE BOARD, AND WHEN WE STARTED THAT.
THAT WAS A GREAT INITIATIVE THAT WE STARTED.
WHILE IT IS LEGALLY REQUIRED NOW, I THINK THERE'S ROOM TO PUT THAT IN OUR BROCHURE, SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT THAT WE ARE PAYING DOWN THE DEBT, STILL.
NOW IT IS LEGALLY REQUIRED, BUT WE DID IT WILLINGLY, AND WE WERE AT THE FRONT OF THE PACK DOING THAT.
I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT POINT UP.
>> WHAT THAT MEANS IS, AGAIN, THESE ARE NOT THE PRICES.
THESE ARE BEST ESTIMATES, AND I MAY NOT BE USING THE EXACT TERMS THEY USE,
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BUT THESE ARE BASICALLY WHAT THE FOLKS ESTIMATE THE COSTS WILL BE BASED ON COMPARED TO, I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO USE A BUNCH OF BIDDING TERMS AND ALL THAT, BECAUSE THIS IS NOT THE PRICE.IN FACT, WE HOPE THESE ARE A LITTLE HIGHER BECAUSE THERE'S A CONTINGENCY IN ALL OF THESE PROJECTS.
WHEN YOU GET INTO THE ACTUAL BIDDING, THIS IS JUST THE VOTERS WOULD AUTHORIZE THE SALE UP TO THIS AMOUNT FOR THESE PROJECTS.
IT DOESN'T MEAN WE HAVE TO SPEND THIS AMOUNT.
MAYBE THERE'S A COUPLE MILLION DOLLAR SAVINGS HERE AND THERE, AND ALL OF THAT ADDS UP.
WHAT SHE'S TALKING ABOUT IS ANY SURPLUS LEFTOVER IN A PROPOSITION AT THE END ONCE ALL THE PROJECTS ARE COMPLETE.
THAT THEN WOULD GO BACK TO THE TAXPAYERS.
IT WOULD PAY DOWN THE DEBT, AND IT WOULD BASICALLY PAY IT OFF.
>> I JUST WANTED THAT CAVEAT IN THERE. THANK YOU.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MR. SEIBEL?
>> JUST TO FURTHER REITERATE THAT WE HAVE TO BASICALLY ENSURE THAT THESE PRODUCTS COME IN UNDER THESE COSTS ESSENTIALLY BECAUSE THERE'S NO MORE MONEY.
SO IF, HIGH SCHOOL FOUR, FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE $396 MILLION IN HERE THAT WE ARE ALLOWED TO GO UP TO, BUT IT ENDS UP COSTING 500 MILLION, IT'S NOT GETTING BUILT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE AN EXTRA 100 MILLION, BUT WE CAN'T JUST GO GET THAT ANYWHERE.
>> NO, THAT'S A GOOD POINT. THERE ARE SOME DISTRICTS THAT, I'M NOT GOING TO NAME ANY OF THEM, AND THEY DON'T DO IT ON PURPOSE.
I KNOW THAT THERE'S ALWAYS THAT STRUGGLE OF HOW DO WE GET THIS ON PAPER TO BE AS CHEAP AS POSSIBLE, SO IT'S MORE APPEALING TO VOTERS.
THERE ARE SOME FOLKS THAT ERROR ON, WELL, LET'S JUST KNOCK THE PRICE DOWN AND KNOCK THE PRICE DOWN.
FOR EXAMPLE, ON A HIGH SCHOOL FOUR, THAT'S THE MOST WE CAN DO, BUT OTHER DISTRICTS HAVE UNDERESTIMATED WHAT THEY NEEDED AND GOTTEN INTO PROJECTS, AND THEN THEY HAVE TO SCALE THE PROJECTS BACK AND ALL OF THAT.
OUR DISTRICT HAS BEEN VERY GOOD AT COMING IN RIGHT AT THE RIGHT PRICE, BUT SLIGHTLY ABOVE A LITTLE BIT, SO THERE IS THAT EXTRA MONEY THAT HAS BEEN, AND THAT'S WHY THE PLEDGE STARTED WITH THE BOARD TO SAY, LOOK, WE'RE PUTTING THE MOST WE THINK IT'S GOING TO COST, BUT WE'RE GOING TO STILL WORK DILIGENTLY, IF IT PASSES TO STILL HAVE THOSE BIDS COME IN CHEAPER AND TO STILL FIND PLACES TO SAVE MONEY SO THAT THOSE PROJECTS COME IN LESS, AND THAT'S WHAT STARTED THAT WHOLE CAVEAT, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN GOOD ABOUT DOING IS ACTUALLY WINDING UP NOT ONLY BEING ABLE TO DELIVER WHAT WAS THE VOTERS HAVE APPROVED, BUT ALSO IN A MANNER THAT COMES IN, USUALLY JUST A BIT UNDER BUDGET.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT SOME PROJECTS ARE A LITTLE MORE, SOME ARE A LITTLE LESS, BUT GENERALLY BY THE PROPOSITION. YEAH.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON MY LEFT? LOOKING ON MY RIGHT. [BACKGROUND] MS. RUNKLE?
>> JUST TO CLARIFY, ARE WE NOT GOING TO HAVE IN TWO, SO ARE WE HAVING ALL THE DISCUSSION ON THIS AGENDA ITEM?
>> YES, MA'AM. WE'RE GOING TO GO AND COMBINE TWO AS WELL TO THIS. YES.
>> JUST MAKING SURE. THANK YOU, MR. SAVOY.
I DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW THAT MY QUESTIONS ARE FOR YOU, PROBABLY FOR MR. CLEAVER.
A COUPLE OF THINGS, THE LAST MEETING WE HAD, WE SPOKE ABOUT SOME BOND INTEREST FUNDS.
IF THERE WERE ANY ITEMS ON ANY OF THESE PROPS THAT COULD BE LOOKED AT AND TAKEN OUT OF AND USED TOWARDS BOND INTEREST.
I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT FOLLOW UP, SO I WANTED TO SEE IF YOU GUYS HAVE TAKEN A LOOK AT THAT AND IF WE HAVE AN IDEA OF WHERE WE FALL ON THAT.
THERE WERE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT A COUPLE OF US MENTIONED LAST BOARD MEETING.
ACTUALLY, SINCE I'VE GONE BACK AND THOUGHT ABOUT THIS SOME MORE, THERE'S TWO OTHER ITEMS THAT I THINK PROBABLY SHOULD BE LOOKED AT IN BOND INTEREST, AND THAT WOULD BE THE ATHLETIC UNIFORMS AND THE FINE ART UNIFORMS, BECAUSE WE'RE HAVING TO PURCHASE THOSE FOR GROWTH, AND THOSE COULD PROBABLY BE SPENT OUT OF A BOND INTEREST FUND.
BUT I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT, SO I WANT TO SEE WHERE WE ARE WITH THAT IF OUR FINANCE TEAM HAS TAKEN A LOOK AT THAT YET, BUT, THIS COULD CHANGE SOME THINGS.
MR. RAUL, DO YOU HAVE ANSWER FOR ME?
>> WELL, HE'S COMING UP. I WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT YOU CAN'T USE BOND INTEREST.
THIS IS DIFFERENT THAN SURPLUS SAVINGS.
BOND INTEREST IS MONEY WHEN YOU SELL THE BONDS ATTORNEY.
I JUST WANT TO SAY BECAUSE WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THE SAME.
IF THERE'S NOT A CONNECTING LINE ITEM RIGHT ON THE PROPOSITION.
WE BANNED UNIFORM REPLACEMENT CYCLES, AND THERE WAS NOTHING ELSE IN THERE THAT TIED IT TO PAID, YOU DON'T.
YOU CAN'T USE THE INTEREST OFF THE PROPOSITION TO BUY THINGS THAT WON'T.
>> NO, I UNDERSTAND. IT HAS TO BE TIED TO A PRIOR BOND.
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THAT'S WHY I WAS HOPING THAT WE'VE HAD SOMEONE TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE PRIOR BONDS.>> NO, THAT'S OKAY. WHAT'S ON THESE CURRENT PROPS AND SEE WHERE WE CAN FIND SOME WAYS TO NOT INCLUDE IT ON THIS IF WE ALREADY HAVE THE MONEY.
>> YES. I GOT A SPREADSHEET OUT LATE TODAY TO BARBARA, TO ANSWER THREE OF THE QUESTIONS ON THE BOND, I THINK THAT ALL DEALT WITH INTEREST.
BUT ESSENTIALLY, AS OF THE END OF DECEMBER, IN THE 2021 BOND, WE HAVE ABOUT 5.7 MILLION IN TOTAL AVAILABLE INTEREST.
IN 2022 BOND, WE HAVE ABOUT 4.3 MILLION IN AVAILABLE INTEREST.
IN THE 2023 BOND, WE HAVE ABOUT 3.1 MILLION.
THAT'S AFTER TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN SPENT, WHAT'S CURRENTLY A PO, WHAT IS A PENDING REQUEST AND THE ESTIMATED ARBITRAGE.
>> CAN WE GET WHAT HE HAS PRESENTED BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T SEEN THAT.
THEN ALSO, I'D LIKE TO KNOW AGAIN, INSTEAD OF ME SITTING HERE GOING, WELL, LET'S TAKE OFF THIS OUT OF THIS AMOUNT AND THIS OFF OF THIS BOND.
I DON'T WANT TO SIT HERE AND DO THAT.
IF YOU GUYS CAN TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT WE SAID LAST MEETING AND FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN PAY SOME OF THIS OUT OF BOND INTEREST, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
TIM, I KNOW YOU'RE ON A TIME LIMIT FOR TOMORROW MORNING AND THIS REALLY STINKS, BUT WE SAID THAT AT THE LAST MEETING, SO HOPEFULLY YOU GUYS CAN TURN THIS AROUND PRETTY QUICK.
THANK YOU FOR COMBINING THE PROP B AND C. I LIKE THAT A LOT BETTER AND BRINGING DOWN THE COST ON THAT.
TO MS. OROSCO'S POINT AND MR. SAVOY'S POINT, THIS IS JUST THE MAX AMOUNT WE CAN SPEND.
I SAID THIS LAST TIME, SO I'M SPEAKING TO ALL OF OUR CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES AND OUR ARCHITECTS THAT ARE SITTING IN THIS ROOM AND THAT ARE LISTENING.
THESE ARE OUR TAXPAYERS MONEY.
I EXPECT THESE NUMBERS TO COME DOWN.
I EXPECT YOU GUYS TO SHARPEN THE PENCIL, AND I EXPECT ALL OF YOU TO SPEND THE MONEY LIKE IT'S COMING OUT OF YOUR OWN BANK ACCOUNTS, SUPPORTING YOUR OWN FAMILIES, BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT WE HEAR FROM OUR COMMUNITY, AND THAT IS HOW THEY ARE AFFECTED, AND THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE EXPECTING FROM US.
AS YOU GUYS LOOK AT THESE AMOUNTS AND YOU LOOK AT ALL OF THE THINGS THAT GO INTO ALL OF THESE BUILDINGS, I WANT YOU TO REMEMBER THAT, THAT THIS IS NOT OUR MONEY, THIS IS TAXPAYER MONEY, AND THAT IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO BRING THESE COSTS DOWN.
I'M GOING TO ASK ONE MORE TIME, TAKE A LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS, SHARPEN YOUR PENCIL, AND PRETEND LIKE IT'S YOUR OWN MONEY, BECAUSE IT'S HARD TO SWALLOW THESE AMOUNTS FOR EVERYBODY, INCLUDING OURSELVES THAT ARE TAXPAYERS IN THIS DISTRICT.
I JUST WANT TO LEAVE THAT THERE.
ALSO, I'M GOING TO BRING UP THE FIRE STATION TOWER.
GUYS, I WANT TO SUPPORT THIS SO BAD IN PROP A. I DO.
THE PROBLEM THAT I HAVE WITH THIS RIGHT NOW IS, AND I SPOKE WITH DR. WRIGHT ABOUT THIS THE OTHER DAY AND MAYBE HE'S FOUND SOME INFORMATION SINCE OUR LAST CONVERSATION, AND MAYBE MR. BO CAN ALLUDE TO THIS.
THE FIRE ACADEMY, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE FIRE ACADEMY, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THIS LAST WEEK.
THIS IS A SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY.
WE HAVE OUR OWN LOCAL FIRE DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE TRAINING OUR KIDS.
IT IS AN INCREDIBLY PROGRAM TO SUPPORT, AND I WANT TO SUPPORT IT.
THE PROBLEM THAT I'M HAVING WITH THIS IS THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS THAT IT SERVES.
I PUT MY OWN CHILD, MY YOUNGEST, HE'S A NINTH GRADER INTO THE FEEDER OF THIS PROGRAM FOR FIRE ACADEMY.
HE'S ALSO AN ATHLETE, A VERY GOOD ATHLETE.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS SAID TO ME WAS THAT, MAN, HE'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO IT ALL THE WAY UP UNTIL HIS SENIOR YEAR, AND THEN HE'S GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION IF HE WANTS TO PLAY FOOTBALL OR IF HE WANTS TO CONTINUE HIS LAST YEAR, COMPLETING THE FIRE ACADEMY.
FIRE ACADEMY, MY BROTHER WAS A FIREFIGHTER.
WHEN I LOOK AT PEOPLE THAT JOIN THE FIRE ACADEMY, I LOOK AT PEOPLE THAT ARE JOINING IT THAT ARE PART OF A TEAM THAT ARE LOOKING FOR CAMARADERIE.
THOSE TYPES OF PEOPLE THAT ARE JOINING THAT PROFESSION THAT ARE A PART OF SOMETHING LIKE THAT THAT WANT TO BE A PART OF SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND SOMETIMES THAT'S OUR ATHLETES, OUR FINE ARTS KIDS, PEOPLE THAT ARE PART OF GROUPS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
I WANT TO KNOW HOW WE GROW THIS PROGRAM.
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HOW DO WE GROW THIS PROGRAM BY MORE THAN 25 KIDS? BECAUSE I KNOW THAT IT WOULD BE HUGE IF IT WAS OPEN TO MORE STUDENTS.MAYBE THE MORNING THINGS FOR THE SENIORS AND JUNIORS DOESN'T WORK, BUT MAYBE YOU TELL ME THAT HAVING THIS FIRE TOWER AT A DIFFERENT PART OF THE DAY THAT ALLEVIATES THAT PROBLEM FOR SOME OF OUR STUDENTS.
WE HAVE A TAXPAYER AND A CITIZEN IN OUR GALLERY RIGHT NOW TONIGHT THAT EMAILED ME AND SAID, ACC HAS A FIRE ACADEMY.
THEY DO. ACC IS RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD FROM US.
>> EXCUSE ME, MS. RUNKLE. THE QUESTION IS, HOW DO WE GROW OUR FIRE ACADEMY.
>> WE NEED TO KNOW HOW TO GROW THE FIRE ACADEMY IF WE'RE GOING TO SUPPORT SOMETHING LIKE THIS. HOW DO WE DO THAT? [BACKGROUND] HE DOESN'T HAVE TO ANSWER IT NOW.
>> [OVERLAPPING] MS. [INAUDIBLE] WE'LL ENTER IT LATER, BUT THAT'S THE QUESTION ON HOW DO WE GROW THE CONCERN OF, OF COURSE, SPENDING THE AMOUNT OF THAT FIRE TOWER.
>> I WANT TO KNOW IF IT AFFECTS THE MORNING FOR JUNIORS AND SENIORS, BECAUSE THAT'S A BIG THING.
I'M JUST GOING TO SAY THAT ON THE FIRE TOWER.
THE BOND INTEREST THING IS HUGE TO ME.
WE REALLY NEED TO GET THAT INFORMATION.
IF YOU GUYS CAN TURN THAT AROUND BEFORE TOMORROW MORNING FOR TIM SAVOY, THAT'D BE GREAT.
I'M HAPPY TO LOOK AT MY EMAIL TONIGHT.
I'M HAPPY TO LOOK AT IT FIRST THING IN THE MORNING.
JUST LET US KNOW HOW YOU GUYS WANT TO MOVE FORWARD ON THAT.
WELL, I'M SPEAKING TO MAX, TOO, AND BRANDY. THAT'S ALL I HAVE ON THIS.
>> WE LOST MR. SAVOY? I JUST WANT TO SAY THANKS FOR GETTING OUR HIGH SCHOOL FOUR DOWN A LITTLE BIT.
THAT'S SO GREAT. I THINK OUR COMMUNITY WILL BE SUPER HAPPY.
I WANTED TO ASK IF WE GET A NEW ONE OF THESE FOR THE NEW DESIGN? DO WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE SACRIFICING? I CAN'T IMAGINE IT'S JUST LIGHT SWITCHES THAT GOT US DOWN.
>> WE'VE GOT ONE LIGHT SWITCH FOR THE WHOLE CAMPUS.
>> MR. SEVERANCE WILL BE THRILLED.
>> NO, SO THE QUESTION WAS, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO SACRIFICE? I HAVE A 33 ITEM LIST, AND I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT ABOUT 10 OF THE BIG THINGS IF THAT'S OKAY.
>> THE FIRST ONE WE'RE GOING TO DO IS, OF COURSE, THE IMPACT WE'RE GOING TO BE, ORIGINALLY, LAST TIME WE TALKED, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING THE ARTIFICIAL TURF DOWN AND THEN COMING BACK POTENTIALLY LATER WITH THE COVER.
THIS CURRENT PROCESS CONTEMPLATES PUTTING TOP SOIL AND JUST REGULAR GRASS TO LOOK LIKE THE OTHER CAMPUSES.
ALL THE CAMPUSES ARE THE SAME.
SHOULD IT NOT PASS, BUT THEN A PROP E PASSES, THEN IT WOULD BE TURF.
THAT'S THE FIRST THING IS JUST GRASS AT THAT IMPACT LOCATION, SHOULD IT NOT PASS.
THEN WE JUST HAD UPDATED PRICING ON THE MULTIPURPOSE ATHLETIC CENTER, THE ACTUAL ENGINEERED METAL BUILDING, AND SOME POWER, ELECTRICAL POWER.
WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME ELIMINATING THE JROTC AREA, AND WE DID THAT.
>> THIS ONE IS AN INTERESTING ONE.
WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT INFLATION, IF WE'RE GOING TO PROPOSE TO APPROVE THIS GMP IN DECEMBER '25 INSTEAD OF MARCH '26, AND THE BURN RATE IS ABOUT 600,000 A MONTH ON THAT ONE.
THAT'S ABOUT 1.8 MILLION SAVINGS THERE.
THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE THINK THAT YOUR AVERAGE PERSON WON'T EVEN SEE OR NOTICE.
INSTEAD OF ALL CONCRETE PARKING, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME ASPHALT PARKING AREAS, NOT THE DRIVE LANES WHERE YOU DRIVE, BUT JUST WHERE YOU ACTUALLY PARK THE CAR.
THEN WE'RE GOING TO DO SOME CHEMICAL INJECTION INSTEAD OF THE FULL SELECT FIELD UNDER THE BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL FIELD, TENNIS AND SURROUNDING FLATWORK.
THEN ALSO AT THE MAC AT THE IMPACTS TO ACHIEVE THE PVR INSTEAD OF AGAIN, THE SUBGRADE PREPARATION.
THAT IS FROM A GEOTECH REPORT THAT WE WERE ISSUED.
WE'RE NOT JUST DOING THAT HOPING FOR THE BEST.
THAT'S ACTUALLY ENGINEERED AND DESIGNED.
WE ARE UPDATING AND GOING BACK TO JUST REGULAR CEILING TILE INSTEAD OF SOME OF THE SPECIALTY CEILING TILES THAT WERE IN THERE BEFORE.
THIS ONE I LIKE, AND THIS ONE IS PREVALENT THROUGHOUT THE BUILDING, AND WE'RE OPTIMIZING OUR FINISHES, AND SO I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.
PROVIDE STANDARD SOFFIT PANELS AT ALL EXTERIOR SOFFITS IN LIEU OF WOOD GRAIN SOFFIT PANELS.
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YOUR AVERAGE PERSON WALKING BY IS GOING TO GO, OH, HEY, I THOUGHT THOSE SHOULD BE WOOD GRAIN AND THEY'RE JUST REGULAR.BUT THOSE THINGS, USING CHOP STONE INSTEAD OF SAWING STONE, NOT GOING UP 25 FEET WITH STONE, BUT STOPPING AT SAY 10 FEET AND THEN GOING WITH METAL PANELS, SO OPTIMIZING THE FINISHES.
I'M HOPING WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT ONE STILL WITH THE CITY OF AUSTIN.
THEN WE ARE RIGHT SIZE SOME OF OUR ALLOWANCES FOR THE SCOREBOARD, AND ALSO FOR THE AV ALLOWANCE AT THE STADIUM AS WELL.
THOSE WERE THE THE MAIN BIG TICKET ITEMS.
>> THANK YOU FOR THAT. THEN I'VE GOT A LOT MORE QUESTIONS.
FIRST DAY ON HIGH SCHOOL FOUR FOR NOW.
ON THE ASPHALT, ARE SENIORS STILL BE ABLE TO PAINT THEIR SPOTS?
>> PERFECT. I'M SORRY TO MICROMANAGE THIS, BUT YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT THESE THINGS.
THEN WITH ALL OF THE CHANGES THAT WE'RE THROWING AT OUR ARCHITECTS, HOW IS THAT GOING TO AFFECT OUR TIMELINE FOR THE BUILD?
>> AFFECT THE TIMELINE FOR THE BUILD.
I BELIEVE WE STILL HAVE THIS IS.
GO AHEAD. THIS IS STILL A 30 WHAT ARE WE 34 OR 36 BOOKS?
>> PROMISE. YOU PINKY PROMISE, JASON ANDREWS? BECAUSE I JUST HEARD YOUR GMP GOT PUSHED UP SEVERAL MONTHS.
WE'RE MAKING YOU CHANGE ALL THIS STUFF? YOU'RE GOOD? I'M SORRY.
I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT. THANK YOU FOR THAT.
WE'RE STILL PLANNING TO BUILD A HIGH SCHOOL FOR A THEATER SIMILAR TO THE NEW ONE AT LEHMAN?
>> REMIND ME THE PLAN TO DO THAT AT JOHNSON AND HAYS?
>> CURRENTLY, AT HAYS, IT'LL BE IN A FUTURE, BOTH WILL BE IN A FUTURE BOND.
>> THEY HAVE BURDINE. JOHNSON HAS NOTHING.
THEY HAVE A BLACK BOX THEATER.
JUST FOR EQUITY PURPOSES, KNOW THAT THAT WILL BE AN ISSUE. THEN TALK TO ME.
LET'S TALK ABOUT LEHMAN. WE'VE GOT 37 MILLION IN THE BOND.
WE DIDN'T HAVE IT IN THE BOND, AND WE'VE PUT 37 MILLION.
I'VE GOT MY HANDY DANDY PAPER HERE.
I KNOW THAT IT'S INDOOR CLASSROOM EXPANSION, BAND RENOVATIONS, WEIGHT ROOM, CONCESSIONS, ACADEMICS, AND PARKING.
WHAT I DON'T SEE, AND I WANT TO JUST REMIND ME BECAUSE, MAN, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS, AND THERE'S A LOT OF PROJECTS FLOATING AROUND.
WHAT HAPPENED TO THE FINE ARTS GYM AT LEHMAN?
>> YES, MA'AM. THE CTE AND MULTI PURPOSE GYM AND THE BAND HALL AND BAND STORAGE ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THE LEHMAN NUMBER.
>> WHAT WOULD BE THE COST TO INCLUDE THE FINE ARTS GYM AT LEHMAN.
>> ON THIS LINE, IT'S LUMPED IN WITH THE CTE IMPROVEMENTS AT 9.7.
I WILL HAVE TO GET WITH THE ARCHITECT TEAM AND LET THEM WHITTLE THAT DOWN AND SEE HOW TO PULL THAT APART.
>> THE REASON I'M ASKING TEAM TO CONSIDER THIS IS YOU'VE GOT COLOR GUARD, DANCE, CHEER, VOLLEYBALL, BASKETBALL, ALL SHARING TWO GYMS. AT HAYS, YOU'VE GOT THREE GYMS? AT JOHNSON, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THREE GYMS. MS. ZUNIGA IS NOT HERE, AND MS. MARINO IS NOT HERE.
I JUST WANT TO KNOW MAYBE FROM MS. BEDWELL.
I DON'T KNOW THEY TOOK OFF LEHMAN TOTALLY.
MAYBE SHE'S NOT THE BEST PERSON AND I THINK SHE MAY HAVE LEFT.
WHAT IS THE REASON THAT WE WOULD NOT HAVE LEHMAN HAVE AVAILABLE SPACE BECAUSE HAVING WATCHED BAND AND COLOR GUARD AND DANCE AND CHEER FIGHT OVER THESE SPACES ALL DAY, EVERY DAY, WHY DIDN'T WE PUT A FINE ARTS GYM FOR LEHMAN?
BUT IF IT WERE ME, YOU WOULD DO ALL THE PROJECTS WE'VE EVER TALKED ABOUT FOR LEHMAN, BUT YOU WOULD DO THEM ON THE NEXT BOND WHEN YOU CAN AFFORD TO DO THEM ALTOGETHER.
>> BUT I'M JUST SAYING IN PRIORITY LANE. [OVERLAPPING]
>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S IN HERE.
>> EVERYTHING EXCEPT THESE TWO RED ONES. [OVERLAPPING]
>> WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT THIS.
>> I MIGHT JUST SUMMARIZE FROM A 30,000 FOOT VIEW.
ONE OF THE PATTERNS, I THINK, AND I COULD BE WRONG IS THAT WE'VE HAD LIKE LEHMAN AND THE LAST BOND GOT A LOT WITH THE AUDITORIUM AND ALL THAT.
I THINK WE HAD BEEN IN A PATTERN WHERE THERE WERE BIG CHUNKS OF PROJECTS AT THE DIFFERENT SCHOOLS AT DIFFERENT BOND TIMES, AND ALL OF THIS WAS SCHEDULED TO BE IN THE NEXT BOND FOR LEHMAN.
BUT THEN WE HAD THE FEEDBACK THAT FOLKS WANTED TO SEE SOMETHING FOR EACH OF THE SCHOOLS IN THIS BOND.
THAT'S WHERE I THINK WE MAY BE IN THE MIDDLE, I'M NOT SPEAKING FOR THE COMMITTEE.
FEELS LIKE WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF A SHIFT FROM GOING TO CLUMPS OF PROJECTS AT
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DIFFERENT SCHOOLS AT DIFFERENT BONDS TO MAYBE PARTS OF PROJECTS SO THAT EVERY SCHOOL, AS WE MOVE FORWARD, HAS SOMETHING IN IT IN EACH FUTURE BOND.>> IF SOMEBODY CAN REACH OUT TO MS. ZUNIGA AND ASK HER IF SHE LIKES WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE AND THAT THIS WOULD BE HER PRIORITY LIST FOR WHAT WE'RE DOING AT LEHMAN, THAT'S WHAT I NEED.
>> I DO WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY.
I LITERALLY HAVE TO GET THE FINAL TOTAL TO THE PEOPLE TOMORROW MORNING AT 10:00 SO THAT THEY CAN DO ALL OF THE CALCULATIONS THAT HAVE TO BE DONE ON THE TAX IMPACT BECAUSE EACH PROPOSITION HAS THE VOTER IMPACT SHEET, THAT HAS TO BE CALCULATED BY DUSTY TRAILER FOR THE ELECTION ORDER.
THE OTHER OPTION WOULD BE IF WE WANTED TO DO A LOT OF WORK ON IT WOULD BE TO THEN TO NOT VOTE ON THIS MONDAY AND THEN DO A SPECIAL MEETING AT SOME POINT BETWEEN NOW AND FEBRUARY 14.
>> WELL, RIGHT. WE'RE NOT VOTING UNTIL MONDAY.
BUT YOU'RE GIVING THE NUMBERS AHEAD OF OUR VOTE?
>> YES, YOU'RE VOTING ON AN ELECTION ORDER THAT HAS ALL OF THE INFORMATION FILLED IN.
RIGHT NOW IT'S A BLANK ELECTION ORDER.
LIKE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO VOTE ON AN ELECTION ORDER THAT HAS THE TOTAL AMOUNT ON EACH PROPOSITION.
>> WELL, AND ALSO, WE'RE JUST PUTTING LEHMAN HIGH SCHOOL RENOVATION.
WE'RE NOT PUTTING ALL THE THINGS THEY'RE PUTTING IS WHAT I'M SAYING?
>> [OVERLAPPING] AMOUNT, I GUESS.
>> IF IN 37 MILLION, IF YOU WENT BACK TO KAREN ZUNIGA AND SAID THIS WHAT YOU INTENDED FOR THE NEXT BOND OR MS. MARINO OR COACH MOFFITT? I WANT TO HEAR FROM THE OTHER TRUSTEES, BUT I FEEL LIKE OF ALL THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING AT THE THREE HIGH SCHOOLS, THIS IS THE MOST AMAZING THING WE'RE DOING FOR SPACE AND SAFETY.
GO OVER AND WATCH A COLOR GUARD PRACTICE IN THE CAFETERIA, WHICH IS WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO.
IT ALSO CREATES TENSION BETWEEN OUR COACHES AND OUR FINE ARTS TEACHERS BECAUSE THEY ARE CONSTANTLY VYING FOR THESE SPACES.
THEY CONTACT US AND SAY, I'M MAD A COACH SO AND SO BECAUSE HE WON'T LET ME HAVE THIS SPACE.
WHERE THE COACHES ARE LIKE, THIS IS BASKETBALL, THIS IS A BASKETBALL GYM, SORRY COLOR GUARD.
THAT TENSION CAN BE ALLEVIATED I FEEL LIKE WITH THESE THREE GYMS. JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.
I'M NOT SAYING TEAR UP THE BOND AND CHANGE THE DOLLARS, BUT MAYBE THERE'S A WAY TO DO IT.
YOU SAID YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE NUMBER IS.
>> WELL, IT'S THE TWO COMBINED ARE NINE MILLION.
>> CTE GEM, BECAUSE IT WAS LUMPED TOGETHER.
I'LL ASK JASON TO SEE IF HE CAN'T DECOUPLE THAT AND GIVE US A NUMBER.
>> THAT IS HELPFUL. THEN, MR. SAVOY, CAN YOU REMIND US IN THE PROP A THAT OUR SCHOOL BUSES THAT NEW BUSES ARE COMING, THAT THIS WILL.
>> YEAH, THE NUMBER YOU SEE IS ACTUALLY COMBINED BUS, AND WE'LL SPELL IT OUT MORE DETAILED BROCHURE.
IT'S SOME ACTIVITY BUSES, BUT IT ALSO DOES INCLUDE 22 NEW YELLOW SCHOOL BUSES FOR GENERAL EDUCATION ROUTES.
THIS IS THE LAST COMPONENT OF OUR PLAN THAT YOU ADOPTED LAST APRIL FOLLOWING OUR TRAGIC BUS ACCIDENT TO SHOW THE COMMUNITY AND TO COMMIT TO HAVING A BUS FLEET THAT WAS FULLY EQUIPPED WITH SEAT BELTS ON ALL OF OUR BUSES THAT WE USE.
THIS WOULD BE THE LAST GROUP ON THOSE FIVE OR FOUR OR FIVE PARTS THAT WE HAD ON THAT PLAN.
THIS ITEM WOULD ROUND THAT OUT, AND IT WOULD BRING US TO A BUS FLEET THAT'S FULLY EQUIPPED WITH SEAT BELTS.
I APPRECIATE YOU REMINDING OUR PUBLIC AND FOLKS TONIGHT THAT WE'LL BE FULLY SEAT BELT BUS AND SOME TRIP BUSES.
MY LAST QUESTION IS ON PROP D DID WE MEAN TO KEEP THAT FINE ARTS AND ATHLETICS FOR THE MULTIPURPOSE PACK? I'M FINE WITH IT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING.
>> THE PROP D, ARE WE NAMING IT FINE ARTS AND ATHLETICS?
>> OH, NO. YEAH, WE'VE UPDATED. WHICH ONE?
>> NO, I'M GOING TO LOOK AT CHANGING THAT HEADER.
I GOT TO DO THAT BECAUSE I THINK ON THE ONE ON THE SCREEN, I DELETED PROP C AND MADE IT INTO PROP B AND FORGOT TO READ LETTER PROP D AND E. IT'LL ALL GO IN ORDER.
WHATEVER PROP A, B, C, D, E, F, G, IF IT MORPHS OUT INTO MORE OR WHATEVER, BUT THEY'LL ALL BE IN ORDER.
THAT'S JUST A DRAFT DOCUMENT THING.
>> PROP C WILL BE NOT FINE ARTS AND ATHLETICS, BUT SOME OTHER COOL TITLE YOU COME UP WITH.
>> PROBABLY MULTIPURPOSE ACTIVITY CENTERS.
THAT'S THE ONLY THING ON THERE.
>> THEN PROP D WILL BE TECHNOLOGY.
THAT'S IT. THOSE ARE ALL MY QUESTIONS.
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>> I'LL GO AHEAD AND CHIME IN AS WELL, AND THANK YOU, MS. PETREA, BECAUSE I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT LEHMAN SPECIFICALLY LAST WEEK.
WE HAD A GOOD DISCUSSION ABOUT COMFORT.
I KNOW THAT THERE HAVE BEEN SEASONS WHERE, FOR EXAMPLE, HAYS BURSTING IN AT THE SEAMS, ACCORDING TO THOSE THAT HAD STUDENTS AT THE TIME.
I DO WANT US TO CONSIDER, IT'S AN ADDITION THAT IS GOING TO IMPACT MANY PROGRAMS. IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT COMFORT OR ONE STUDENT, BUT I DO LIKE THAT IDEA OF CONSIDERING THAT WITHOUT GOING OVERBOARD ON BOND CAPACITY.
THAT WAS THE ONLY OTHER MINUTE I WANTED TONIGHT.
ALL RIGHT TEAM. MS. RUNKLE. YES.
>> JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, SO I DON'T KNOW HOW WE'RE GOING TO GET ALL THIS INFORMATION BY TOMORROW MORNING BEFORE 10:30.
HOW DOES THIS WORK? IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO CALL A SPECIAL MEETING.
I'M GOOD WITH A SPECIAL MEETING.
BUT I JUST WANT TO KNOW HOW WE'RE GOING TO GET THE BOND INTEREST INFORMATION, THE FIRE TOWER STUFF, AND THEN NOW THE LEHMAN HIGH SCHOOL STUFF WITH KAREN ZUNIGA.
>> WELL, THE PLAN WAS TO GO THROUGH TONIGHT AND GET CONSENSUS ON WHAT YOU WANTED US TO SEND OVER TO THE ATTORNEYS.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THE DRAFT ELECTION ORDER.
I GUESS IT'S ALREADY ON THE AGENDA FOR THE MEETING, AND THEN Y'ALL CAN VOTE IT UP OR DOWN, I GUESS ON MONDAY.
I'M WRITING DOWN ALL THE THINGS THAT Y'ALL ARE BRINGING UP.
THEN MY HOPE IS ONCE EVERYBODY WEIGHS IN, I CAN THEN GO BACK AROUND AND DO A MIND READ OR SOMETHING, AND LIKE I JUST SEE IF I CAN PICK UP CONSENSUS ON WHAT TO ADD OR NOT TO ADD IN THERE.
BECAUSE, DID WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE SAME PATTERN LAST BOND? THE PROCESS THAT YOU NEED FOR TOMORROW MORNING, WAS THAT ALWAYS DONE BEFORE WE VOTE YES OR NO ON WHETHER OR NOT.
>> WE HAVE TO SEND TO THE ATTORNEYS THE LIST OF ITEMS AND THE COST SO THAT THEY CAN CALCULATE A TOTAL COST, AND IT HAS TO BE BY PROPOSITION.
WE'VE GONE LINE BY LINE BEFORE.
REMEMBER, WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THE PROPOSITIONS REGARDING WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO EXPAND STADIUMS AT ONE POINT OR NOT, AND THEN I KNOW IT WAS OVER AT LEHMAN WHERE WE'VE DONE THAT BEFORE.
BUT I'VE GOT TO GET AT SOME POINT A FINAL LIST COST, AND REALLY THEY NEED THE TOTAL BECAUSE THAT GOES ON THE BALLOT BY PROPOSITION.
IT HAS TO GO TO THE ATTORNEYS IN TIME.
USUALLY IT TAKES A WEEK, BUT THEY'RE ON STANDBY TO GET THE INFORMATION TOMORROW MORNING TO TURN AROUND THE PROPOSITION, BECAUSE I SENT THE DRAFT THERE.
YOU'LL SEE THOSE VOTER INFORMATION SHEETS THAT ARE REQUIRED BY PROPOSITION.
IT TALKS ABOUT THE TAX IMPACT.
I'LL HAVE IT WITH ME, RANDY, MAY KNOW.
THERE'S ABOUT 15 DIFFERENT CALCULATIONS LIKE EVALUATION PER EACH HOUSE FOR IF THIS PROPOSITION PASSES AND ALL OF THOSE STUFF HAS TO BE CALCULATED FOR THE ELECTION ORDER.
BUT THEN YEAH, BECAUSE ONCE YOU CALL FOR IT, YOU'RE BASICALLY VOTING ON THE ELECTION ORDER, BUT YOU'RE ALSO VOTING ON THE TOTAL PROPOSITION AMOUNT AND THEN HOW YOU GET THERE? WHAT ARE THE ITEMS THAT MAKE UP THAT? WE CAN'T GO BACK AFTER YOU VOTE ON AN ELECTION ORDER AND THROW IN SOMETHING IN MARCH AND KEEP IT UNDER THE SAME PRICE.
YOU REALLY ARE LOCKING IN THE ITEMS AND THE COSTS?
>> I GUESS MY QUESTION IS WE'RE PUT IN THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE, IF WE'RE SAYING, WE'RE GOING TO FINALIZE AND HAVE CONSENSUS, EVEN THOUGH WE HAVEN'T VOTED, HAVE WE HAD TO DO THAT?
>> YES. WE'VE ALWAYS DONE A STRAW VOTE.
>> WE'VE ALWAYS HAD TO. [OVERLAPPING]
>> THAT WE CAN CREATE A DOCUMENT THAT YOU VOTE ON.
LIKE, YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO VOTE ON RIGHT NOW.
YOU DON'T HAVE AN ELECTION ORDER.
THE ONLY THING YOU VOTE ON FOR A BOND IS THE ELECTION ORDER.
THAT IS, DO WE CALL THIS ACCORDING TO THIS ELECTION ORDER OR NOT? THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE VOTING ON.
LIKE THE DISCUSSIONS ON THE INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS AND ITEMS OR HOW WE GET TO THE DOCUMENT THAT WE CREATE FOR YOU TO VOTE ON? THIS IS THE WORK THAT WE DO HERE TO LEAD UP TO THE VOTE, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
>> GOT YOU. THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT.
>> YEAH, YOU DON'T REALLY VOTE.
IT'S NOT A BINDING VOTE. IT'S NOT A LIST.
IT'S NOT AN AGENDA ITEM. YOU DON'T REALLY VOTE ON EACH OF THE ITEMS. YOU CAN STRAW POLL IT AND THEN THE ONLY ACTUAL VOTE YOU'RE TAKING WILL BE, WE SEE THE ELECTION ORDER, YES OR NO.
DO WE SEND THIS ON TO THE VOTERS FOR CONSIDERATION?
>> YES, MAX, I JUST WANTED TO KNOW YOU SAID IT WAS $9 MILLION FOR THE CTE AND FINE ARTS AT LEHMAN?
>> I WAS AT THE BREAK WAS TRYING TO GET MY MEMORY BACK AROUND THAT.
>> DO YOU REMEMBER THE SUBJECTS? GENERAL CTE.
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>> THEY'RE NOT FOR SOMETHING SPECIFIC. IT'S JUST FOR GROWTH?
>> WE DON'T HAVE THE BREAKDOWN YET, JASON, YOU DON'T KNOW THE BREAKDOWN, WHAT WAS FOR THE FINE ARTS PIECE AND WHAT WAS FOR THE CTE?
>> WE JUST GOT THAT AT THE BREAK, AND WE'RE WORKING ON IT NOW.
I THINK THEY ALL ARE WORKING ON THAT NOW.
>> MINUS WHATEVER YOU CAN TAKE OFF FOR THE CLASSROOMS IF THEY NEED TO COME OFF.
IT WOULD BE LESS THAN THAT IF WE DIDN'T BUILD THE CLASSROOMS.
>> TEAM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, I'LL LOOK LEFT ONE MORE TIME. LOOKING RIGHT.
TEAM, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE CAN PROBABLY DO SOME OF THAT MATH TONIGHT AND STILL COME BACK AND TALK ABOUT.
I KNOW WE HAVE OTHER AGENDA ITEMS THAT WE STILL NEED TO GET TO.
>> WE CAN ACTUALLY CALCULATE DOWN TO THE PENNY.
I LIKE YOU-ALL SAY, LET'S PUT THE GYM IN THERE AND WE KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE 9.8 OR WHATEVER.
YOU'LL SEE ALL THAT BEFORE YOU VOTE ON THE ELECTION ORDER, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE TO HAVE THE NUMBER UNTIL IN THE MORNING, WHICH I'M SURE THEY CAN GET.
LIKE IF YOU TAKE THE CLASSROOMS OFF AND IT'S NOT 9.8 MILLION ANYMORE.
WE DON'T NEED THE EXACT NUMBER FROM YOU-ALL, I GUESS WE JUST NEED TO KNOW, DO YOU WANT TO PUT THE CTE GYM IN HERE OR NOT? THE FINE ARTS.
>> I KNOW YOU'VE HEARD FROM TWO OF US, AND I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK.
I KNOW MR. FLORES IS NOT HERE.
>> I'M KEEPING A LIST. I'VE GOT THREE THINGS THAT I WAS.
>> TEAM, JUST BE NOD OF HEADS, DO WE HAVE CONSENSUS? WE CAN'T DO THAT.
>> YOU CAN'T DO LIKE A NOD OF HEAD AND ALL THAT STUFF.
BUT YES, I DO SUPPORT PUTTING THAT BACK IN THERE AS WELL.
I THINK MR. FLORES HAS SPOKEN ABOUT THAT BEFORE.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE A SAFE BET AS WELL.
>> I'M GOING TO LOCK DOWN ADDING THE FINE ARTS GYM, BUT NOT THE CT CLASSROOMS.
>> MISS RUNKLE WANTS TO CHIME IN AS WELL.
>> LAST WEEK WHEN WE SPOKE ABOUT LEHMAN, I SUPPORTED THAT AS WELL.
I'M JUST AGAIN, CONCERNED ABOUT BOND INTEREST MONEY HERE, TOO.
SOME OF THESE THINGS CAN COME OFF AND THAT WILL CHANGE THE AMOUNTS THAT GET SENT TO THE ATTORNEY. I CARE ABOUT THAT.
>> BUT I THINK YOU GUYS WOULD GIVE US PERMISSION TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT, RIGHT?
>> THAT'S OKAY. I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW THAT AFFECTS LIKE TO THE BOND ATTORNEY.
CAN YOU TAKE THINGS OFF AND REDUCE IT? HOW DOES THAT WORK?
>> AGAIN, THE FINAL NUMBER ON THE PROPOSITION IS THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT, I GUESS IF YOU PUT IT ON THE LIST AND YOU VOTE ON THE ELECTION ORDER, I DON'T THINK THERE'S A LEGAL REQUIREMENT THAT IF THE VOTERS APPROVE IT, YOU SELL THE BONDS.
I GUESS YOU COULD JUST NOT DO SOME OF THE PROJECTS ON THERE, BUT THE PROBLEM THERE IS THEN REALLY IT'S A COVENANT WITH THE VOTERS, AND IF THEY VOTE FOR SOMETHING AND YOU AFTER THEY APPROVE IT, DECIDE NOT TO DO IT, THEN THAT WOULDN'T BE A GOOD IN MY HEARING, YOU WANT TO TAKE ITEMS OFF.
>> THE QUESTION IS THAT WE WOULDN'T TAKE ITEMS OFF, WE WOULD PAY FOR WITH OTHER BOND INTEREST MONEYS.
>> IF YOU LATER PAID FOR SOME OF THESE WITH BOND INTEREST AND THEN DIDN'T NEED THE BOND MONEY TO BUY THAT.
>> IF YOU WANT TO DO IT THAT WAY THAT'S FINE.
>> I THINK WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT IS TAKING IT OFF UP FRONT.
IF RANDY SAYS THAT THERE IS A CORRESPONDING LINK TO A PREVIOUS ONE AND WE CAN USE BOND INTEREST MONEY, THEN WE WOULD REDUCE COMMENSURATE WITH THAT AMOUNT AND BE ABLE TO SAY, FOR INSTANCE, PROP A WITH SOME OF THE SMALLER AMOUNT TOTALS.
IF WE HAVE TECHNOLOGY THAT WE CAN LINK IT TO, THEN WE WOULD REDUCE THAT BY WHATEVER AMOUNT RANDY HAS AVAILABLE IN BOND INTEREST, AND IT'S OKAYED BY JERRY KYLE WHEN WE SPEAK TO HIM IN THE MORNING.
>> THE PROBLEM NOW IS I WOULD NEED TO KNOW WHICH ITEMS YOU WOULD WANT US TO TAKE BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO ARBITRARILY MAKE THAT DECISION.
>> WE TALKED ABOUT IT LAST TIME.
WE TALKED ABOUT TECHNOLOGY ITEMS. IF RANDY CAN LOOK AT THE TECHNOLOGY ITEMS AND SEE IF ANY OF THOSE ITEMS ARE TIED TO ANY BOND PROJECTS IN THE PAST.
THEN I KNOW, BUT THERE WERE SMALLER ITEMS THAT WE COULD HAVE TAKEN OFF OF THAT.
WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT THE MCCORMICK MIDDLE SCHOOL PORTABLE MOVE.
WE TALKED ABOUT WASN'T IT THE WEIGHT SAY THAT AGAIN.
>> THE DRIVEWAY. THEN I BROUGHT UP THIS EVENING THE ATHLETIC UNIFORMS AND THE FINE ART UNIFORMS, IF THAT'S ON GROWTH AND CAN BE TIED TO ANY OF THOSE BONDS LIKE THE JOHNSON OR THE MCCORMACK WIN.
GUYS, I DON'T KNOW IF DO YOU-ALL SEE ANYTHING ELSE ON HERE THAT STICKS OUT TO YOU-ALL?
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THOSE ARE THE ONES WE DISCUSSED LAST MONTH OR LAST BOARD MEETING.>> THANK YOU MISS RUNKLE, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER, MISS PETREA.
>> I APPRECIATE MISS RUNKLE BRINGING THAT BACK UP AGAIN.
IF NOT, I'M IN FAVOR OF DOING THE OTHER THING, WHERE JUST YOU LEAVE THEM, AND WE LOOK FOR BOND INTEREST, AND WE DON'T END UP NEEDING TO USE THE BOND MONEY, THEN WE DON'T END UP USING THE BOND MONEY.
>> THAT'S GOING TO SAY AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF THERE'S BOND INTEREST MONEY THAT COMES UP FOR ONE OF THEM, AND IT WINDS UP GETTING APPROVED ON THERE.
IF IT'S NOT USED BECAUSE WE'VE DONE IT WITH BOND INTEREST MONEY ON A PREVIOUS BOND, THEN THIS MONEY THAT THE VOTERS AUTHORIZE WOULD BECOME SURPLUS MONEY, AND THEN NOW NOT JUST BY OUR CHOICE, BUT LEGALLY WE'D REQUIRED TO PAY THAT BACK TO THE TAXPAYERS AT THE END OF THE BOND PACKAGE.
IF THAT MAKES SENSE. I GUESS IT STILL GOES BACK TO THE TAXPAYERS.
>> IT ALSO GIVES US SOME FLEXIBILITY IN THE FUTURE FROM BOND INTEREST FOR THIS BOND.
MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE WHATEVER WE DO, SHARPEN OUR PENCILS, MOVE THEM SOME THINGS, WOULD BE TO TRY REALLY HARD, ALTHOUGH THE DOLLAR FIGURE FOR THE FINE ART GYM SOUNDS PRICEY IS TO KEEP THE PROP A AT LIKE 499,999.
IF WE COULD, THAT MAY NOT BE POSSIBLE.
MR. SAVOY, I KNOW YOU MIGHT HAVE THOUGHTS ABOUT THAT.
IF WE CAN'T DO IT, WE CAN'T DO IT.
THAT WOULD BE MY OTHER THOUGHT.
>> I WAS HOPING THAT WE WOULD HAVE THAT BOND INTEREST INFORMATION SO WE COULD BRING THIS DOWN BECAUSE EVERY PENNY MATTERS.
I KNOW THAT, IT'S JUST THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT, AND WE DON'T HAVE TO SPEND IT.
BUT WHEN TAXPAYERS GO TO THE HOLD, IT'S A HUGE DIFFERENCE WHEN WE SHAVE OFF A COUPLE OF MILLION DOLLAR OFF OF THIS.
I REALLY WISH WE HAD THAT INFORMATION.
HOPEFULLY WE CAN MAKE IT IN TIME FOR THAT ELECTION ORDER TO GET SOME OF THIS STUFF OFF AND CLEANED OFF BECAUSE, LIKE I BROUGHT UP LAST TIME SEVERAL ITEMS THAT WERE RELATED TO PAST BONDS THAT IT COULD COME FROM AND SEEING THAT WE HAVE MONEY IN THAT BOND INTEREST BECAUSE THE NUMBERS THAT MR. RAUL GAVE US.
IT SEEMS LIKE THAT TECHNOLOGY COULD BE A LOT SMALLER AND SO CAN PROP A.
IF WE DO TAKE SOME OF THOSE ITEMS OFF, BECAUSE OF BOND INTEREST, THEN WE CAN INCORPORATE THAT FINE ARTS AT LEHMAN IN THERE AND KEEP IT UNDER THAT 4,999 PRICE IF WE WERE ABLE TO CLEAN THIS UP, WHICH I HOPED WE WOULD HAVE DONE AFTER OUR LAST BOND MEETING. THANK YOU.
>> TEAM, I KNOW ADMINISTRATION THAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO SEE IF WE CAN GET THAT INFORMATION TONIGHT.
I KNOW MS. GLORIA JUST STEPPED OUT TO GO CHECK E-MAIL, SO WE'LL SEE WHAT WE CAN COME UP WITH.
BUT, IT DOES SOUND LIKE WE'RE ALMOST THERE.
>> DO YOU WANT ME TO READ BACK WHAT I HAVE, JUST TO I DON'T KNOW WE HAVE ANY MORE.
>> NO. UNLESS ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. GO FOR IT SIR.
>> WHAT I HAVE SO FAR IS I'M CHANGING THE NAME OF PROPOSITION C TO MULTI PURPOSE.
I AM ADDING JUST THE FINE ART GYM PORTION TO LEHMAN IN PROP A PROVIDED IT'S SUPPORTED WITH BOND INTEREST MONEY? WE'RE REMOVING FROM PROP A MOVING THE PORTABLES.
WE'RE REMOVING FROM PROP D TECH ITEMS. WE'RE REMOVING FROM PROP A, THE DRIVEWAY.
WE'RE REMOVING FROM PROP A, THE ATHLETICS AND FINE ARTS UNIFORMS IF WE CAN COVER THOSE ELSEWHERE.
THEN THE ONLY OTHER THING I HAVE LEFT, ARE WE KEEPING THE FIRE TOWER OR NOT?
>> WITH THOSE MOVES, I WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE OKAY.
I KNOW THAT WE'VE HAD THE QUESTION ABOUT HOW DO WE GROW THAT PROGRAM. MISS RUNKLE, YOU WANT TO WEIGHT IN?
>> I'M JUST GOING TO SAY THIS ONE TIME.
TO THE TAXPAYERS, THEY'RE GOING TO CARE ABOUT HOW MANY STUDENTS THAT FIRE TOWER SERVES.
I'M REALLY GOING TO ENCOURAGE YOU GUYS TO SPEND SOME TIME ON HOW WE GROW THAT PROGRAM INTO A LARGER BECAUSE IT'LL GROW, AND IT'LL GET LARGE.
PLEASE WORK ON THAT BECAUSE VOTERS WILL HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT ONLY SERVING 25-30 KIDS.
I'M SUPPORT IT, BUT GROW THE PROGRAM.
>> OR AND THIS JUST CAME TO ME AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS A POSSIBILITY.
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BUT COULD THE FIRE TOWER BE SOME MULTI PURPOSE TOWER OF SOME KIND FOR ANY OTHER CT PROGRAM CLASS? I DON'T KNOW ALL OF OUR PROGRAMS, BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF THEM.THAT WAS MY ONLY OTHER THOUGHT TO EXPAND THE USAGE OF IT.
>> I THINK IT'S DESIGNED TO BE SET ON FIRE.
>> ALWAYS. IT'S NOT JUST A CLIMBING TOWER.
>> NO, I THINK YOU'VE BURNED LIKE BACK DRAFT STUFF IN THERE.
ANYTHING YOU'D PUT IN THERE FOR ANY OTHER.
>> WHAT ABOUT OUR CHILD CARE PEOPLE THAT ARE LEARNING TO RESCUE CHILDREN FROM THEIR DAYCARE, I DON'T.
>> THINKING. WHAT ABOUT OUR CT PROGRAM FOR WELDING? COULD THEY USE THAT TO WELD STAIRS? I DON'T KNOW. I'M JOKING OBVIOUSLY, BUT.
>> RESPONSE TO YOUR QUESTION ON.
>> YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF FOR PEOPLE. I HAVEN'T HEARD.
>> YES. MY NAME IS RICK BO. I'M THE CURRENT TECHNICAL EDUCATION DIRECTOR.
YOUR QUESTION REGARDING OTHER PROGRAMS. THERE WAS A BOARD QUESTION ON THAT, BUT I'LL REITERATE ON THAT.
WE CAN USE THAT FOR NOT ONLY OUR FIRE ACADEMY, WHICH WE'LL UTILIZE IT.
WE ALSO HAVE 693 STUDENTS ACROSS THE THREE CAMPUSES WHO ARE ENROLLED IN A FORENSIC SCIENCE CLASS, AND IT CERTAINLY IS SOMETHING THAT COULD BE USED STAGING CRIME SCENES, FIRE SCENES, FOR THE STUDENTS IN THAT CLASS THAT THEY CAN UTILIZE IT.
WE WOULD LOOK AT CONSTRUCTION TRAITS PROGRAMS WHERE IT WOULDN'T BE HAPPENING ON A WEEKLY BASIS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT EDUCATING OUR STUDENTS IN PROGRAMS LIKE THAT.
EVEN IN OUR CHILDCARE PROGRAMS, WHAT THE IMPACT OF FIRE HAS IN THEIR CAREER FIELD, SO IT COULD CERTAINLY BE USED FOR THAT AS WELL.
>> THANK YOU. IF THERE'S OUR ARCHITECTS MAYBE HAVE SOME IDEAS TOO ON HOW TO MAKE IT A MULTI PURPOSE TOWER OF SOME KIND.
>> MAYBE THEY COULD USE IT IN THE VIDEO CLASSES TO DO LIKE TOWERING INFERNO SCENES.
>> DOES ATHLETICS USE IT FOR CONDITIONAL.
DONE MISS PETREA? MISS OROSCO.
>> THANK YOU. I REMEMBER A TIME, MISS PETREA WHEN WE VOTED FOR A $5 MILLION POOL, AND WE ONLY HAD LIKE 12 SWIMMERS.
WE GREW THE PROGRAM AND HAVE VERY ROBUST SWIM TEAMS NOW THAT DO WATER POLO AND DO ALL KINDS OF THINGS.
YES, THINGS CAN GROW IF WE PUT EFFORT AND HAVE A PLAN, BUT 693 KIDS THAT CAN UTILIZE THIS SPACE.
THAT'S PRETTY BIG. AT FIRST, WE WERE JUST THINKING FIRE ACADEMY, JUST A FIRE ACADEMY WOULD BE USING IT.
BUT KNOWING THAT THERE'S 693 KIDS OUT THERE THAT CAN ALSO UTILIZE IT, AND WE CAN ALSO RENT THE SPACE FOR ABOUT 500 TO $600 EACH TIME.
THAT IS REALLY GOOD INFORMATION TO HAVE.
THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT INFORMATION.
I KNOW THAT I'M GOOD WITH A FIRE TOWER BUILDING IT, KNOWING THOSE FACTS AND KNOWING HOW WE GROW PROGRAMS HERE IN HAYS.
>> THEN YOU COULD DO A BONFIRE FOR HOMECOMING.
>> YES. MR. SEIBEL, YOU'RE UP, SIR.
>> I FOLLOW UP WITH THAT? LET ME ASK.
I'M ON THE FENCE OF FIRE TOWER TO BEGIN WITH, BUT GROWING PROGRAM IS ESSENTIAL TO MAKE THE FINANCIAL SENSE OF THE EXPENSE, OVERALL, BUT AGAIN, IT'S PART OF AN OVERALL BIGGER PROJECT IN MIND TOO.
IT IS ESSENTIALLY SUPPOSED TO BE PHASE 1 OF A LARGER PROJECT THAT, , FBOC IS CONSIDERED FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS BEYOND JUST THE TOWER, CORRECT?
>> YES. FOR PUBLIC I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY HOW MUCH CTE, BUT MORE LIKE A CTE AREA.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A FULL CENTER.
>> SOME LIKE BIGGER CLASSROOM SPACE, LIKE A MULTIPURPOSE ROOM THAT'S WHAT I REMEMBER.
>> SAFE TRAINING AND THOSE THINGS THAT WE COULD HAVE THERE.
GOING BACK TO WHAT WE MODIFIED FOR HIGH SCHOOL FOUR, YOU MENTIONED GOING BACK TO GRASS FOR THE FIELD, WHERE THE MULTIPURPOSE ACTIVITY CENTER WOULD BE, JUST MAKING SURE THAT IT WOULD STILL BE PREPPED THOUGH FOR FUTURE TURF.
I THINK WE RAN INTO THAT ISSUE WITH JOHNSON HIGH SCHOOL, WE THOUGHT ABOUT TURF AND THEN WE WENT GRASS, BUT IT WAS ALREADY PREPPED FOR TURF.
>> GREAT MEMORY. IT WOULD INCLUDE THE SUB GRADE PREPARATION FOR THE FUTURE BUILDING. GOOD MEMORY.
>> THAT'S IT. THAT'S ALL I GOT.
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>> HERE WE GO. EVERYONE HAS WEIGHED IN ON THE FIRE TOWER.
>> I'M ALSO GOING TO WEIGH IN ON THAT TO MR. SEIBEL'S POINT, LIKE THIS, I WANT TO REFRESH EVERYONE'S MEMORY, WHEN THIS FIRST CAME TO US AS A PROJECT, IT WAS LIKE A $30 MILLION PROJECT TO DO WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW TO SERVICE THESE FIRE KITS.
THAT'S ALL WE HAD RIGHT NOW. I THINK MR. BO CAME IN AND SAID, LET'S BREAK THIS UP INTO PIECES AND SEE HOW WE CAN EXPAND OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT, POSSIBLY, PROGRAM DOWN THE ROAD.
IT WAS JUST THE FIRST STEP TO GET THAT PROGRAM OFF THE TABLE.
I KNOW WHAT THEY HAVE A SHERIFF PALUTO NOW, THERE'S SOME OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT ON SOME AGE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE JAILERS.
I KNOW THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO TO GET SOME OF OUR HIGH SCHOOL KIDS IN A LAW ENFORCEMENT PROGRAM.
THAT'S WHY WE KNOW YOUNGER AGE TO BE 21.
THERE'S SOME OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT, BUT I THINK IT JUST STARTS WITH, WE HAVE TO JUST SAY THAT WE'RE COMMITTED TO THIS.
MAX HAS ALSO TOLD ME THAT I CAN BUILD A MAINTENANCE SHOP IN ELLEN FOR $950,000 FOR ABOUT 5,000 SQUARE FEET.
THAT MIGHT BE AN OPTION FOR DOWN THE ROAD FOR ADDING TO THIS PROJECT TO HELP IT GROW ITSELF.
I WOULD REALLY LIKE FOR OUR DISTRICT TO FIGURE OUT WAYS TO CUT SOME THINGS MAYBE OUT OF PROP A THROUGH USING BOND INTEREST TO KEEP THAT IN THERE. I AM IN FAVOR.
I THINK OF LEAVING THE PUTTING BACK IN THE LEHMAN HIGH SCHOOL MULTIPURPOSE PAVILION.
TRUSTEE PETREA TO MAYBE HAVE KAREN WEIGH IN ON THAT.
>> MULTI PURPOSE FACILITY IN PROP C.
>> BUT I DO THINK IT'S GREAT MISS SUNG GET HER TO WEIGH ON THAT.
IF THE DOLLAR AMOUNT STAYS AT 37 MILLION, THEN IF WE CAN MOVE IT AROUND TO HER PRIORITY, I THINK THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE, TOO.
>> MISS AMAN, IF YOU'RE LISTENING, YOU HAVE 30 MINUTES TO CALL IN.
>> WHAT'S KIDDING. YES. IT'S CALL HER. YOU'VE GOT 30 MINUTES.
I GOT DISTRACTED ON PAVILION VERSUS MULTIPURPOSE GYM.
>> WE CAN MOVE ALL THIS STUFF AROUND BY 10:30.
WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO ALL THIS TOMORROW BY 10:30.
YOU'RE GOING TO SAVE US THE $10 MILLION THROUGH BOND INTEREST OUT OF PROP A TO THEN PUT IN THE $10 MILLION?
>> I DON'T WANT TO SURPRISE YOU.
REMEMBER AN EARLIER RENDITION OF THIS? WE'RE STILL IN DISCUSSIONS WITH ATTORNEYS.
THE HIGH SCHOOL COMES WITH A STADIUM THAT'S 999 STUDENTS OR LESS, LIKE A REGULAR STADIUM, AND WE HAD LOOKED AT DOING A SEPARATE PROPOSITION EARLIER TO CONSIDER AN EXPANSION OF THAT TO BE A VARSITY-LEVEL PLAYING FIELD.
THEN WE THOUGHT MAYBE THERE'S A WAY TO DO THAT WITH OPERATING BECAUSE WE'RE STILL FINE-TUNING SOME OF THAT WITH THE ATTORNEYS, SO THAT IS NOT A FINISHED ITEM YET, SO THAT MAY OR MAY NOT COME BACK.
>> WELL, I LOOK FORWARD TO [OVERLAPPING] ALL THE HARD WORK FROM 7:30 IN THE MORNING TILL 10:30 WHEN YOU NEED THAT INFORMATION, BUT I'D LIKE TO JUST THROW THIS OUT THERE FOR WE'RE ALWAYS IMPROVING, WE'RE ALWAYS GETTING BETTER WITH HOW WE DO THINGS IN PROJECTS.
I WOULD REALLY NOT EVER LIKE TO HAVE TO HAVE THIS VOTE BEFORE WE VOTE ON THE FINAL LIST AND ANY FUTURE BONDS.
WE NEED TO MOVE THIS PROCESS UP EARLIER TO WHERE WE CAN VOTE ON THE PROJECTS, AND THEN YOU HAVE A COUPLE OF WEEKS TO THEN FILE YOUR REPORT.
I HATE THE FACT THAT WE'RE DOING THIS ON A THURSDAY BEFORE A MONDAY MEETING.
>> WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO IT LAST WEDNESDAY.
THEN I GUESS THAT'S ON OUR END.
>> I DON'T KNOW IF WE WERE ASKED TO VOTE ON THAT LAST WEDNESDAY.
EITHER WAY, I'D LIKE TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THIS TIME CRUNCH.
WE GOT TO GIVE OURSELVES A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN JUST ONE DAY OF FLEXIBILITY TO GET WHAT YOU NEED DONE, AND THEN WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE THIS INFORMATION FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS BEFORE WE HAVE TO DO ANYTHING WITH IT.
THAT'S MORE RHETORICAL FOR NEXT TIME.
I'D APPRECIATE IT. ANYWAY, THAT'S ALL I HAD.
I FEEL LIKE WE'RE GOING TO KEEP THIS THING PRETTY CLOSE TO WHERE IT IS NOW DOLLAR WISE, AND WE'RE GOING TO GET CREATIVE, SO I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU.
>> YOU HAVE UNTIL FEBRUARY 14.
>> IF NEED BE, WE COULD HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING.
WE DON'T VOTE ON PROJECTS, WE FORMULATE CONSENSUS, BUT WE CAN ALWAYS DESIGN A TIME CRUNCH.
IF WE WANT TO TAKE ACTION FOR MONDAY, THEN IT'S A TIME CRUNCH.
>> YES. THAT'S WHAT I JUST SAID. WE ARE REALLY ACTUALLY AHEAD OF
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SCHEDULE BECAUSE I HAVE BUILT IN SOME FAIL SAFE TIME FOR YOU, BYRON.>> EXACTLY. BECAUSE WE HAVE DONE BEFORE.
THAT'S BECAUSE HE HAS TO GET THAT ELECTION ORDER DRAFTED SO THE LAWYERS CAN TURN IT AROUND SO WE CAN VOTE ON IT ON MONDAY.
THAT'S WHAT HE WAS TRYING TO GET TO.
>> YOUR LAST SCHEDULED MEETING BEFORE THE LEGAL DEADLINE TO CALL AN ELECTION IS MONDAY, BUT YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO [INAUDIBLE]
>> WE HAVE HAD SPECIAL MEETINGS BEFORE CLOSER TO THAT FEBRUARY 14 DATE, SO IT'S NOT OUT OF THE NORM.
HOWEVER, IT SEEMS THAT WE HAVE REACHED CONSENSUS AND THAT YOU HAVE TAKEN VERY GOOD NOTES ON IT, BUT IF ANYBODY FEELS THE NEED TO PUSH THAT TO A SPECIAL MEETING, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK AT TO SEE IF WE HAVE CONSENSUS TO MOVE THAT TO A SPECIAL MEETING IF NEEDED.
BUT YOU STILL HAVE TIME BEFORE.
>> [OVERLAPPING] YOU CAN STILL MAKE THAT DECISION ON MONDAY.
YOU CAN JUST TAKE AN ELECTION OR SOMETHING ON THE DRAFT.
THIS IS ALSO HOW IT'S SUPPOSED TO WORK.
I KNOW IT FEELS LIKE IT'S NOT, BUT THIS IS, IN MY OPINION, WHAT A BOARD LISTENING TO THE COMMUNITY FEELS LIKE, BECAUSE IF YOU'LL NOTE, WE'VE GOT THE INITIAL START, IF YOU WILL, WITH THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE FBOC WAS IN NOVEMBER, AND THEN WE HEARD IN DECEMBER, AND WE'VE HEARD MORE COMMENTS, AND WE HAVE PEOPLE COMMENT.
AS PEOPLE BEGIN TO FOLLOW IN ON THE PROCESS AND MAKE SUGGESTIONS, THEY'RE BEING CONSIDERED AND REACTED TO. I THINK WE'RE IN GOOD SHAPE.
I THINK THIS IS WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO FEEL LIKE.
THEN ULTIMATELY, YOU JUST MAKE A CALL ON NOT WHAT IS AND ISN'T GOING TO EXIST OR BE CONSTRUCTED OR WHAT THE PRICE IS.
YOU'RE JUST MAKING A DECISION ON WHAT'S GOING TO GO BEFORE THE VOTERS TO AUTHORIZE AT A MAXIMUM PRICE LEVEL.
>> PRESIDENT VELA, MAY I CONTINUE?
>> MR. SAVOY, WHEN WILL YOU GET THAT DRAFT OF THE ELECTION ORDER TO US?
>> MONDAY. IF NEED BE, AND WE'RE NOT COMFORTABLE ON MONDAY, SOMEBODY CAN MAKE THE MOTION TO HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING TO POSTPONE DEFINITELY TO A DATE CERTAIN FOR A SPECIAL MEETING.
>> IT CAN. LET ME JUST POINT OUT WHILE YOU'RE ON THAT THOUGH THAT YOU ACTUALLY NEED TWO SPECIAL MEETINGS BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING TO HAMMER OUT WHAT YOU WANT IN THE ELECTION ORDER, AND THEN ONE ABOUT A WEEK LATER TO ACTUALLY VOTE.
>> WELL, WE COULD HAMMER IT OUT ON MONDAY.
[OVERLAPPING] IF IT DOESN'T MEET THE NEEDS OF THE PEOPLE, OF US, WE CAN HAMMER IT OUT AND THEN SAY, "HEY, THIS IS NOT WHAT WE WANTED," THEN WE CAN POSTPONE, DEFINITELY, TO A SPECIAL MEETING IF NEEDED.
I THINK THAT YOU HAVE REALLY COLLECTED ALL OUR THOUGHTS, AND I THINK IT'LL WORK OUT, BUT I'M JUST SAYING THAT'S STILL AN OPTION, MR. SEVERANCE, THAT WE CAN POSTPONE DEFINITELY IF WE DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THAT ELECTION ORDER.
>> THAT WOULD BE FOR MAJOR CHANGES, TOO, BECAUSE IF IT'S A SIMPLE CHANGE, WE'RE GOING TO ELIMINATE A WHOLE PROPOSITION.
WE CAN JUST VOTE WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT'S NOT IN THERE.
I THINK IF YOU GET IN AND START TWEAKING WITHIN EACH PROPOSITION, THEN IT BECOMES PROBABLY A SPECIAL MEETING, BUT IF IT'S GOING TO DELETE A WHOLE PROPOSITION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEN I THINK YOU COULD PROBABLY JUST DO THAT WITHOUT IT BEING PRINTED IN FRONT OF YOU.
>> ALL RIGHT, TEAM. ONE LAST LOOK LEFT.
ONE LAST LOOK RIGHT. MOVING ON.
I'VE GOT ALL THE LISTS THAT I DID ON THE THINGS THAT ARE BOND INTERESTS THAT ARE COMING OUT, AND WE'RE ADDING THE FINE ARTS GYM AT LEHMAN PROP A, AND WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING WITH THE FIRE ACADEMY.
>> THANK YOU FOR THAT QUICK RECAP THERE, MR. SAVOY. ALL RIGHT, TEAM.
WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEM M6,
[M.6. Consideration and possible approval for further consideration the Design Development of 2023 Bond Bid Package 12 for projects at Tom Green Elementary, Hemphill Elementary, Kyle Elementary, Chapa Middle School, Simon Middle School, and Wallace Middle School]
CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE APPROVAL FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION.THE DESIGN DEVELOPMENT OF 2023 BOND BID PACKAGE 12 FOR PROJECTS AT TOM GREEN ELEMENTARY, HEMPHILL ELEMENTARY, CHAPA MIDDLE SCHOOL, SIMON MIDDLE SCHOOL, AND WALLACE MIDDLE SCHOOL.
MR. CLEAVER, I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE US A VERY SUCCINCT OVERVIEW ON THIS AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS.
>> YES, SIR. LET'S START BY SAYING JUST A SCRIVENER'S ERROR, BOTH IN THE SUBJECT AND IN THE MOTION TO STRIKE CHAPA MIDDLE SCHOOL.
WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT CHAPA MIDDLE SCHOOL HERE, AND SO IT IS THE OTHER SCHOOLS.
WE HAVE PROVIDED YOU WITH A DD DOCUMENT FROM OCR, AND THEN WE ALSO PROVIDED A SPREADSHEET WITH THE DD COST INFORMATION.
WHEN IT SAYS CONSIDER APPROVAL FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION, THAT FURTHER CONSIDERATION WOULD BE THIS.
SINCE SD, ALL FIVE OF THOSE PROJECTS, SOME WENT UP, SOME WENT DOWN, BUT ALL FIVE TOTALED AND TOGETHER, WENT UP $964,820.
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THE FURTHER CONSIDERATION WOULD BE AS WE HAMMER THROUGH THESE DEALS TONIGHT AND TOMORROW MORNING, WOULD YOU LIKE FOR US TO USE THE NEW PRICING FROM DD? THAT WOULD BE THE NATURE OF THE FURTHER CONSIDERATION.IF YOU ALL HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS FROM OCR, DOUG WITH OCR, IF YOU'LL HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ON ANY OF THE DRAWINGS.
>> THANK YOU, SIR. I KNOW WE HAVE DOUG HERE TONIGHT.
TEAM, I'M LOOKING AT MY RIGHT, WHAT QUESTIONS DO WE HAVE? LOOKING LEFT. EASY ENOUGH.
>> THERE WAS ONE QUESTION FROM TRUSTEE SEVERANCE ABOUT, IF WE APPROVE THIS.
ARE WE APPROVING FUTURE ARCHITECT FEES? THE ANSWER IS WE'RE APPROVING THIS PROCESS.
WE'RE TRYING TO DEVELOP BUDGETS, SO THERE IS A BUDGET ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
WHILE YOU'RE NOT REALLY APPROVING AN EXPENDITURE, YOU ARE APPROVING A BUDGET.
>> THANK YOU, MR. CLEAVER. ALL RIGHT, TEAM.
WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON TO M7 CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE APPROVAL OF THE EXPENDITURE OF
[M.7. Consideration and possible approval of the expenditure of Bond Interest Earnings for the Advancement of 2025 Bond Projects]
BOND INTEREST EARNINGS FOR THE ADVANCEMENT OF 2025 BOND PROJECTS. MR. CLEAVER.>> YES, SIR. THIS WAS TABLED LAST TIME WITH SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE TIMING, AND SO WE PROVIDED VARIOUS INFORMATION, WE PROVIDED SOME MORE INFORMATION TODAY.
BUT INSTEAD OF GETTING INTO THE WEEDS, JUST ANECDOTALLY, IF YOU START LATER, YOU END LATER, AND THAT COULD HAVE POTENTIAL COST IMPLICATIONS.
THE FOUR MONTHS, MAYBE IN THAT 2% RANGE POTENTIALLY.
PROBABLY, A BIGGER ISSUE THOUGH, IS ABOUT OUR COMPRESSED SUMMERS.
IF WE DON'T START KEEP DESIGNING AND WE START PICK UP OUR DESIGN AGAIN MID MAY, WE'RE GOING TO MISS SUMMER 2025 OPPORTUNITY FOR A LOT OF WORK.
THE SUMMERS ARE SO SHORT, WE CAN OVERCOME IT, BUT THAT'S JUST A REALITY.
WE COULD MISS THE SUMMER FOR SOME SUMMER WORK, SUMMER OF '25.
WHAT THAT WILL DO IS IT WILL HAVE THE IMPACT OF PUSHING OUT WHERE WE HAD FOUR PROJECTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE COMPLETING IN SUMMER OF '26.
NOW WE'LL HAVE EIGHT PROJECTS COMPLETING IN THE SUMMER OF 2027 TO THE TUNE OF ABOUT $375 MILLION.
IT'S DOABLE, BUT WE'RE CONCERNED WITH QUALITY AND JUST WORKING PEOPLE TO DEATH.
THE ONE WE DID PROVIDE YOU A SHEET THAT LOOKS [INAUDIBLE].
THIS EXPLAINS THE FEES, PAST, PRESENT, AND FUTURE.
THE ONE THING THAT TRUSTEE SEVERANCE DID POINT OUT TO US IS ALL THE MATH IS CORRECT, BUT IF YOU LOOK RIGHT HERE ON THESE TWO LITTLE NUMBERS, THIS COLUMN, THE COLOR CODING IS OFF, SO THE 16 MILLION IS CORRECT, BUT JUST THE COLOR CODING IS OFF.
BE ADVISED OF THAT. NATE SAID HE'S GOT SOME IDEAS ON HOW TO FIX THAT.
WITH THAT SAID, AGAIN, DEPENDING ON WHAT HAPPENS HERE WITH LEHMAN, THE CURRENT REQUEST ALL IN IS THE 6.7 MILLION, BUT WITH SOME REDUCED SCOPE AT LEHMAN, THAT NUMBER OBVIOUSLY WOULD COME DOWN.
>> THANK YOU, SIR. ALL RIGHT, TEAM. I'LL LOOK TO MY LEFT.
ANY QUESTIONS, MR. SEIBEL AND MS. OROSCO?
>> ONE DAY. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR PROVIDING THE TIMELINE AND LOOKING AT IT BOTH WAYS, AND THERE WAS A LOT OF WORK TO FLESH OUT.
YOU GAVE ME MUCH MORE DETAIL AND ACTUALLY ANSWERED THAN I ACTUALLY ASKED YOU FOR, BUT I APPRECIATE ALL THAT, SO I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT.
I WANT TO CLARIFY, I GUESS, THOUGH, BECAUSE IN THE 2023 BOND, OUR VOTERS APPROVED FOR US TO ADVANCE THE DESIGN PROCESS FOR THESE PROJECTS.
BREAKING IT DOWN, IT WAS 4.7 FOR HAYS HIGH SCHOOL, LEHMAN, 7.256 FOR HIGH SCHOOL 4, 2.8 FOR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS.
BASICALLY, WE'VE ALREADY EXPENDED THOSE FEES TO THIS POINT, AND SO NOW WE'RE LOOKING TO CONTINUE WITH THE PROCESS, ESSENTIALLY, AND IT'S BEEN THE ADDITIONAL 6.7 THAT YOU ALLUDED TO A SECOND AGO.
MY QUESTION IS WHEN WE PUT THOSE ITEMS ON THE 2023 BOND, WAS IT JUST AN INFLATION ISSUE THAT CAUSED US TO BASICALLY RUN SHORT OF THE TOTAL COST THAT WE EXPECTED THEM TO BE BECAUSE OUR GOAL AT THE TIME OF DOING THAT WAS BASICALLY TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE SHOVEL-READY FOR THE 2025 BOND AS IT'S READY TO GO, BUT WE BASICALLY CAME UP SIX MONTHS SHORT,
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IN ESSENCE, ON THE TIMELINE SCALE.IF YOU CAN CLARIFY THAT, IF THAT QUESTION MAKES SENSE.
IF YOU LOOK BACK ON THAT BOND PLAN, IT ACTUALLY SAID PARTIAL DESIGN FEES FOR THE HIGH SCHOOL.
WE WERE THINKING PARTIAL THE WHOLE WAY, BUT THEN I THINK ESCALATION OR INFLATION CAUGHT US, AND IT WAS A DOUBLE WHAMMY, BUT WE DID HAVE THE THOUGHT THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE PARTIAL.
NOW, GOING FORWARD, I WOULDN'T RECOMMEND PARTIAL ANYMORE.
I WOULD RECOMMEND ALL THE WAY SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THIS.
>> I APPRECIATE YOU CLARIFYING THAT.
I MISSED THAT WORD PARTIAL, SO THAT MAKES A LOT MORE SENSE AS TO WAS IT A PLANNING ISSUE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ALLEVIATE IN THE FUTURE? I AGREE WITH YOU.
MAKE SURE WE HAVE IT, ALL THE WAY IN THE FUTURE.
WE'RE MOVING SO FAST RIGHT NOW WITH SO MANY PROJECTS AND SO MUCH GROWTH, TRYING TO GET THEM ALL.
MY INITIAL CONCERN LAST MEETING WAS THIS IS NOT A LITTLE BIT OF BOND.
THIS IS A PRETTY DECENT AMOUNT OF BOND INTEREST MONEY THAT WE'RE ADVANCING.
WE'RE GOING TO PAY FOR THESE DESIGN FEES.
DID WE ALREADY REMOVE THESE DESIGN FEES OUT OF THE 2025 BOND FOR THESE PROJECTS?
>> [OVERLAPPING] THAT'S REFLECTED IN THAT SPREADSHEET.
>> NOW THAT I HAVE THIS DATA IN THIS FORMAT, I'M GOING TO VERIFY THAT THE FAR RIGHT COLUMN IS ALSO CORRECT ON MY SPREADSHEET.
>> GOT IT. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU.
>> I JUST WANTED TO QUICKLY CLARIFY, MR. CLEAVER, WE DID NOT TABLE THIS.
WE POSTPONED. DON'T SAY TABLE.
YOU'RE FREAKING ME OUT. [LAUGHTER] THANK YOU.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON MY LEFT? MR. SEVERANCE.
>> THANKS, MAX. I ALWAYS GET NERVOUS ABOUT ADVANCING DESIGN FEES FOR PROJECTS THE COMMUNITY HASN'T APPROVED YET.
I THINK MAYBE GOING FORWARD, I KNOW WE'RE JUST LEARNING, BUT MAYBE WE SHOULD COME UP WITH A SANDBOX, SO TO SPEAK, THAT WE CAN PLAY IN WITH THESE DESIGN FEES IF WE SAY, IF WE'RE GOING TO DO LIKE WE'RE DOING MIDDLE SCHOOL 7 DESIGN FEES, I'M PRETTY SURE WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR DESIGN FEES IN THE BOND IS GOING TO BE ALL THAT YOU'RE GOING TO NEED TO DESIGN THAT TO CONSTRUCTION.
>> IT GETS US ALL THE WAY THROUGH [INAUDIBLE].
>> I DON'T THINK WE'VE DONE THAT IN THE PAST.
I THINK WE'VE TRIED TO GET US THROUGH AN SD OR A DD.
THEN AS I THINK OUR COMMUNITY OR FBOC, IN THIS BOARD, WE ARE TO BOND IT, BUILD IT.
OUR CONSTRUCTION PARTNERS FELT THAT WAY.
MAYBE WE SHOULD LOOK AT THE TIMELINE OF PROJECTS IN WHICH THEY ARE GOING TO BE COMPLETED ON A CERTAIN BOND, AND THEN IF WE'RE GOING TO ADVANCE DESIGN FEES, MAYBE WE CAN COME UP WITH A PERCENTAGE.
SAY, "LOOK, IF WE'RE GOING TO GO SHOVEL-READY ON DAY 1, THEN WE'RE GOING TO DO 100% ON THE PREVIOUS BOND." IF WE'VE GOT, BASED ON YOUR WORKLOAD, A BUNCH OF IT'S GOING TO DELAY SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR, THEN MAYBE YOU CAN TAKE 50% OF THE DESIGN FEE.
MAYBE YOU CAN TAKE 25%, BUT JUST TO HAVE SOMETHING MORE STRATEGIC ON WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR THE DESIGN FEES, SO WE DON'T RUN UP AGAINST HERE WE ARE.
WE'RE STILL HAVING TO ADVANCE MORE INTO THE BOND THAT WE HAVEN'T BONDED YET.
I'D LIKE TO DO THAT AHEAD OF TIME AND JUST GET WHAT WE NEED AND THEN PUSH OUT WHAT WE DON'T NEED. THAT MAKES ANY SENSE.
>> WE USE A MASTER AGREEMENT AND SERVICE ORDERS.
I THINK OUR CONTRACT TYPE WOULD LEND ITSELF TO THAT.
>> THEN JUST FOR ME, LET'S SAY SOME OF THESE THINGS DON'T GO, THEN WHAT?
>> WHAT I WROTE IN THE BLOG TODAY IS, I THINK IT REALLY DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH YOU BELIEVE IN OUR PLANNING.
WE THINK OUR PLANNING IS GOING TO STAND.
IT'S JUST A MATTER OF WHEN IT'S TIME TO DO IT.
WE HAD THE RIGHT PEOPLE AT THE TABLE, AND SO WE THINK THAT PLANNING IS GOING TO STAND THE TEST OF TIME.
YOU GET TO THE POINT WHERE YOU ARE AND YOU PUT IT ON THE SHELF AND PICK IT UP WHEN THE TIME'S RIGHT.
>> BUT TIME COMES IF WE'RE ALREADY DESIGN-READY, THAT WE'RE JUST READY TO GO AND WE CAN STILL JUST MOVE FORWARD WITH WHAT WE'VE ALREADY DONE.
>> I'M STILL NOT SUPER COMFORTABLE WITH DOING THIS.
I'M STRUGGLING, MR. CLEAVER, BECAUSE I DO LIKE TO BE SHOVEL-READY, AND I'D FORGOTTEN WE'D DONE THE PARTIAL DESIGN FEES.
I REGRET DOING THAT NOW BECAUSE IT DOES FEEL LIKE WE'RE COMING BACK TO THE TROUGH AND OUR BOND INTEREST FUNDS ARE PRECIOUS AND I FEEL LIKE THERE'S OTHER HOLES WE COULD BE PLUGGING WITH THAT.
I'M NOT COMPLETELY SOLD THAT I WANT TO DO THIS JUST BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T REALLY GONE OUT TO THE VOTERS AND KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO SUPPORT.
I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT IF IT'S TWO MORE YEARS BEFORE WE GET A HIGH SCHOOL 4,
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AND WHO KNOWS WHAT CHANGES ARE MADE IN THE WORLD OR WHAT THE GOVERNOR PUSHES DOWN TO US THAT MAKES US HAVE TO TEAR UP OUR DESIGNS AND START OVER? I DON'T KNOW. THAT ALL JUST MAKES ME NERVOUS.I'M WILLING TO EAT THE 2% AND BE A LITTLE BIT BEHIND IF WE GIVE THE SUPPORT OF THE VOTERS AND THE VOTERS TELL US ALL AHEAD FULL ON THESE PROJECTS.
THAT'S WHERE I'M AT RIGHT NOW.
>> YES, THANKS FOR PRESENTING ON THIS AGAIN.
I SIT WHERE I SAT LAST MONTH WHEN WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION.
WE POSTPONED IT, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT BROUGHT IT BACK SO EARLY WITHOUT EVEN CALLING A BOND YET.
I SHARE THE SAME SENTIMENT WITH MRS. PETRI THAT I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH ADVANCING DESIGN FEES WITHOUT KNOWING WHERE OUR VOTERS STAND AND HOW THEY FEEL.
I SAID THIS THE LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT THIS.
I'VE SUPPORTED BEING SHOVEL READY IN THE PAST ON ITEMS. IT'S NOT THAT I'M NOT, AND THAT I WOULDN'T BE IN THE FUTURE.
THIS IS JUST A VERY LARGE BOND AND THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS HAPPENING IN OUR DISTRICT.
TO MRS. PETRI'S POINT, WE'RE SITTING HERE.
I DON'T WANT THIS TO BE A RAINY DAY FUND EITHER WHERE WE JUST CONSTANTLY TAKE MONEY OUT OF THE INTEREST BUCKETS, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING.
WE NEED TO BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT HOW WE SPEND THOSE FUNDS AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE ONLY SPENDING THOSE FUNDS FOR ITEMS THAT WE REALLY NEED TO SPEND THEM FOR, NOT THAT WE DON'T, BUT I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THIS.
I'M JUST NOT, AND THAT'S MY TAKE ON IT.
I WASN'T COMFORTABLE WHEN WE FIRST SPOKE ABOUT IT.
I'M STILL NOT COMFORTABLE WITH IT.
IT'S ALMOST SEVEN MILLION DOLLARS OF MONEY THAT WE'RE SPENDING OF TAXPAYER MONEY BEFORE WE EVEN KNOW HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT IT.
RIGHT NOW I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS WITHOUT US EVEN CALLING FOR A BOND YET, AND WE HAVEN'T VOTED ON THAT YET.
THAT'S WHERE I STAND. I DON'T KNOW WHERE EVERYBODY ELSE STANDS, BUT THAT'S WHERE I'M AT.
THOSE ARE SOME GREAT POINTS ON BOTH VIEWPOINTS.
WHEN WE DID ADVANCE FEES, I THINK IT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO AT THAT TIME.
WE KNEW THAT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE TO BE SHOVEL READY FOR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS THAT WE'VE OPENED AND WE'RE ABOUT TO OPEN.
LIKE ANYTHING ELSE, THERE'S AN ON RAMP, BUT THEN THERE'S AN OFF RAMP, BUT THEY DON'T ALWAYS EXACTLY ALIGN.
IF THE TIMING IS NOT RIGHT FOR US TO ADVANCE FEES, THEN MAYBE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE RUNNING INTO.
OR IF WE'RE STILL AT THAT POINT WHERE WE KNOW THAT WE NEED THE NEXT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, THE NEXT MIDDLE SCHOOL, THE NEXT HIGH SCHOOL.
THOSE ARE JUST THINGS THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER.
I FEEL GREAT ABOUT WHAT WE'VE DONE ON THE PREVIOUS BONDS WHEN WE ADVANCED FEES.
I THINK IT WAS VERY WISE OF US TO DO, BUT I THINK WE'RE HEARING DIFFERENTLY TONIGHT FROM SOME OF OUR MEMBERS, AND SO I THINK WE'LL SUBMIT ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CLEAR ON THIS ON MONDAY SO WE CAN BE READY TO VOTE. MR. SEVERANCE.
>> MAX, MAYBE YOU COULD HELP US WITH THIS PART OF IT.
WHEN IS HIGH SCHOOL 4 GOING CONSTRUCTION READY? WHEN DO WE STARTING THAT PROJECT? LET'S DO THAT IF WE ADVANCE THIS OR IF WE DON'T, WHEN DOES THE PROJECT START?
>> I DON'T HAVE THAT ON ME. DO YOU-ALL REMEMBER OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD? APRIL OF 2026.
>> IF WE DO ADVANCE THIS OR WE DO NOT ADVANCE THIS? IF WE DO NOT ADVANCE THIS, THEN IT BECOMES WHAT? IS IT STILL APRIL 26? FEELS LIKE IT COULD STILL BE APRIL 26.
>> CAN WE GO AHEAD AND GET YOU ON THE MIC? I'M SORRY, SIR. TO CLARIFY, MR. SEVERANCE, I'M SORRY, I JUST WANT TO ASK REAL QUICK.
YOU'RE ASKING THAT IF WE ADVANCE MONEY IF THE BOND PASSES? ARE WE SHOVEL READY?
>> I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, IF WE DON'T ADVANCE THESE FEES AND THE BOND PASSES, THEN WHAT'S THE START DATE? IF WE DO ADVANCE THESE FEES, THEN WHEN'S THE START DATE?
>> ASSUMING THAT WE WOULD START BACK UP RIGHT AFTER THE BOND PASSES, LET'S SAY MID MAY, SO WE'VE BEEN ON HOLD SINCE DECEMBER, SO WE'D BE LOOKING AT SIX-MONTH DELAY, PLUS OR MINUS.
INSTEAD OF APRIL OF 26, WE WOULD BE WHATEVER SIX MONTHS IS PAST THAT.
THEN THE WHOLE CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE, EVERYTHING SHIFTS BY THAT SIX MONTHS.
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>> ARE WE STILL WAITING ON SOME PERMITTING STUFF FROM THE CITY OF AUSTIN?
>> WHAT KIND OF ASPECTS OF THAT PERMITTING PROCESS ARE WE WAITING ON?
>> I WOULD SAY, WE HAVE SORT OF JUST BEGUN THIS PERMITTING PROCESS WITH THEM.
ON THE SITE, WE WERE ABOUT TO DO OUR 60%.
THEY HAVE WHAT'S CALLED THE PUPER PROCESS.
THAT'S THE PUBLIC PROJECT PROCESS THAT IS AN ACCELERATED PERMITTING PROCESS FOR THE CITY FOR PUBLIC PROJECTS LIKE SCHOOLS.
THIS IS A BRAND NEW PROCESS THEY JUST IMPLEMENTED.
WE THINK THEY'VE ONLY BEEN DOING IT FOR ABOUT A YEAR NOW.
THEY HAVE YOU SUBMIT, DURING DESIGN, PRIOR TO WHEN YOU WOULD NORMALLY SUBMIT FOR A PERMIT.
THE IDEA BEING THAT THEY GIVE YOU FEEDBACK WHILE YOU'RE DESIGNING SO THAT WHEN YOU DO SUBMIT, HOPEFULLY, ALL THE BIG ISSUES THAT THEY WOULD HAVE BROUGHT UP WHEN YOU GO ON FOR PERMITTING ARE DEALT WITH.
WE WERE ABOUT TO DO OUR 60% SUBMITTAL FOR THE SITE.
THEN FOR THE BUILDING, WE ACTUALLY AREN'T ALLOWED TO SUBMIT UNTIL 60% BY THEIR PROCESS.
WE WERE GOING TO SUBMIT THAT IN FEBRUARY.
OBVIOUSLY, THAT ALL SHIFT DEPENDING ON HOW LONG WE'RE DELAYED TO START BACK UP AGAIN.
I'M CURRENTLY IN CONVERSATION WITH THEM RIGHT NOW TRYING TO GET SOME ANSWERS OUT OF THEM ON THINGS, LIKE, DO WE HAVE TO DO FIREPROOFING AND FIRE SPRINKLER AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF ON THE IMPACTS? THAT WAS A TWO MILLION DOLLAR PRICE TAG THAT I WAS ABLE TO GET THE CITY OF KYLE TO ALLOW US TO NOT DO THAT.
I HAVE NOT GOTTEN THAT FROM THE CITY OF BUDA FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN YET.
I'M STILL WORKING WITH THE CITY OF AUSTIN ON THAT, BUT RIGHT NOW, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE IN THE BEGINNING OF THE PROCESS OF PERMITING WITH THEM.
EVEN WITH THEIR ACCELERATOR PROCESS, WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT SOMEWHERE AROUND 12 MONTHS PROBABLY AT A MINIMUM FOR PERMITTING.
>> DOES OUR CONSTRUCTION GROUP TEAM FEEL LIKE EVEN IF THIS IS DELAYED BY THE FOUR MONTHS BETWEEN NOW AND THE BOND THAT WE CAN STILL OPEN BASED ON WHEN WE PROJECTED THIS HIGH SCHOOL 4 TO OPEN.
>> I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR THEM, BUT WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO GET THEM TO COMPRESS THEIR SCHEDULE IN GENERAL, AND THEY HAVE NOT BEEN WILLING TO DO THAT, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW ABOUT A 36-MONTH CONSTRUCTION PROCESS.
AGAIN, ALL OF THAT WOULD SHIFT, AND DEPENDING ON THE LENGTH OF THE DELAY, THEN IT COULD PUT THAT OPENING OF ALL OF 29 IN JEOPARDY.
>> WHAT ABOUT THE HAYS HIGH SCHOOL, JOHNSON HIGH SCHOOL, AND LEHMAN HIGH SCHOOL PROJECTS?
>> JOHNSON HAS ALWAYS HAD A LITTLE BIT OF A CUSHION TO IT BECAUSE IT'S SO SMALL, THE CONSTRUCTION WINDOW ON THAT ONE IS SMALLER.
WE HAD IT ON THE SAME TIMELINE.
WE'VE BEEN DOING IT, LEHMAN, AND HAYS HIGH SCHOOL ON THE SAME OVERALL TIMELINE, BUT BECAUSE IT'S GOT A SHORTER CONSTRUCTION WINDOW, THEN THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF EXTRA TIME IN THERE.
MAX AND I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE STRATEGY TO PUT THAT ONE ON HOLD WHILE THE OTHER ONES KEEP MOVING FORWARD AND THINGS LIKE THAT BECAUSE WE KNEW WE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF FLOATING THERE.
WITH THE DECISION THAT YOU-ALL HAVE MADE TO SHRINK THE SCOPE OF HAYS HIGH SCHOOL BY TAKING OUT THE FINE ARTS EDITION, THAT CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE SHRUNK.
THE BIGGEST REASON IT SHRINKS IS BECAUSE IT GOES FROM, THAT ONE WOULD HAVE BEEN A TWO-PHASE PROJECT BECAUSE THEY CAN'T BUILD EVERYTHING AT THE SAME TIME BECAUSE THEY SHUT DOWN TOO MUCH OF THE CAMPUS, BUT BY SHRINKING THAT SCOPE, IT ACTUALLY GOES FROM A TWO-PHASE PROJECT TO A ONE-PHASE PROJECT.
IT WENT FROM A 24-MONTH SCHEDULE TO ABOUT A 16-MONTH SCHEDULE, WHICH OBVIOUSLY, THAT'S A HUGE AMOUNT OF TIME.
THAT HELPS ABSORB THE POTENTIAL DELAY OF GOING TO [OVERLAPPING]
>> LET ME DO THIS. I KNOW IT'S GETTING LATE.
HOW ABOUT BETWEEN NOW AND MONDAY YOU-ALL GET TOGETHER WITH YOUR CONTRACTORS, AND LET'S LOOK AT WHAT'S POSSIBLE IF THIS GOES OR DOESN'T GO.
CAN WE MOVE UP? CAN THEY TIGHTEN UP THEIR CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE BY FOUR MONTHS IF WE DON'T ADVANCE THESE UNTIL MAY, OR WHAT WOULD BE THE DELAYED OPENINGS IF WE DO OR DON'T? MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN ACCOMMODATE US.
MAYBE YOU CAN HAVE JASON B. FROM [INAUDIBLE] COME DOWN AND HELP OUT? I DON'T KNOW, BUT SOME WAY TO TRY TO COMPRESS IT, EVEN IF WE'RE GOING TO BE LATE ON IT, WE'RE GOING TO LET THE VOTERS DECIDE ON WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN MAY.
>> A QUESTION FROM MR. SEIBEL, ON THE THREE ADD RENOS PROJECTS, WE ACTUALLY PROVIDED TIMELINES IF YOU WERE TO KEEP MOVING FORWARD WITH APPROVAL THIS MONTH VERSUS DELAYING UNTIL MAY ON THE THREE ADD RENOS.
I CAN EASILY DO THAT SAME THING FOR HIGH SCHOOL 4 AS WELL.
>> THAT'D BE GREAT. BECAUSE I WOULD HATE TO HAVE 1, 02, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 PROJECTS DELAYED A YEAR BECAUSE OF TIMING OF SUMMER AND OPENING OF SCHOOL, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T ADVANCE DESIGN FEES.
I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE AND GIVE OUR TEAM A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION TO MAKE A DECISION ON MONDAY. THANK YOU.
>> TEAM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON MY LEFT?
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DID WE TAKE CARE OF ALL THE QUESTIONS ON THE RIGHT? MR. CLEAVER, THANK YOU FOR THAT INFORMATION.>> TEAM, WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEM M8.
THIS IS GOING TO BE A BOARD MATTER ABOUT OUR BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURES.
I THINK THIS IS A GOOD CHANCE FOR US TO GO AND TAKE A BREAK, AND IF ANY OF OUR GUEST WANT TO LEAVE.
LET'S DO A FIVE-MINUTE RECESS.
TEAM, I KNOW EVERYBODY ELSE IS GETTING SITUATED, BUT OUR NEXT ACTION ITEM IS M8.
[M.8. Consideration and possible adoption of the updated Board Operating Procedures]
CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ADOPTION OF THE UPDATED BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURES.TEAM, I WANT TO ADDRESS A COUPLE OF THINGS REAL QUICK.
FIRST AND FOREMOST, THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WE WERE ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED TO COMPLETE BACK IN AUGUST.
THIS IS DEFINITELY AN IMPORTANT MATTER.
I KNOW THAT IT GOVERNS HOW WE, AS A TEAM, OPERATE.
WE DID NOT HAVE THE TIME FOR IT DURING OUR TEAM BUILDING SESSION.
THEN, OF COURSE, SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, WE'RE ALL VERY TIGHT AGENDA ITEMS. IT WAS VERY BUSY.
WE DID NOT HAVE TIME TO GO INTO A DEEPER DISCUSSION, AND SO I WENT AHEAD AND I CREATED A SUBCOMMITTEE LED BY MS. OROSCO, MR. FLORES, AND MS. SIBAL.
I KNOW THAT THEY JUST HAD A CHANCE TO MEET AND TALK ABOUT THIS AND BRING SOME IDEAS TO US.
JUST SO YOU HAVE THE BACKGROUND, AGAIN, THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED TO TAKE PLACE BACK IN AUGUST AND JUST THE TIMING OF IT.
THANK YOU TO THAT SUBCOMMITTEE FOR ALL THE WORK AND I KNOW THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME GREAT THINGS FOR US.
THEN ADDITIONALLY, WE'LL MAKE SURE WE REVIEW THE MATERIALS AND ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.
UNLESS SOMETHING IS URGENT OR IMMEDIATE, WE CAN DEFINITELY SUBMIT QUESTIONS IN ADVANCE OF OUR MEETING FROM MONDAY.
MS. OROSCO, I KNOW YOU HAD SAID THAT WE HAVE A PRESENTATION, WE HAVE A DOCUMENT IN OUR DIAS FOLDER.
MS. OROSCO, I GIVE YOU THE FLOOR.
SUBCOMMITTEE MADE AN EXECUTIVE SUMMARY OF THE CHANGES THAT WE MADE.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO READ IT BECAUSE IT WAS PUT IN LATE BECAUSE I SUBMITTED THIS LATE, THIS EXECUTIVE SUMMARY THAT JUST GOES PAGE BY PAGE.
MOST OF THE CHANGES WERE CLEAN UP LANGUAGE.
THERE IS A NEW UPDATED DRAFT THAT MS. GLORIA DID PUT IN YOUR PACKET.
THERE WAS ONE AREA THAT DIDN'T SEEM CLEAR, SO WE CLEARED IT UP ON PAGE 6.
SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT HAD COME UP WAS, LIKE, WHO WAS ON THE COMMITTEE, AND OF COURSE, PRESIDENT VELA APPOINTED US TO THAT COMMITTEE AND WHEN WE MET, I PUT THE DATES OF OUR MEETINGS.
ALSO, PAGE 6 IS THE ONE PEOPLE HAD QUESTIONS, AND SO WE CLARIFIED THAT TO MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S NO LIMITATION ON TALKING TO CABINET MEMBERS.
WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS CLEAR.
EVERYTHING ELSE IS PRETTY EASY.
THE NEW ADD, I'LL JUST HIGHLIGHT, SOMETHING THAT WE ADDED THAT WAS NOT THERE BEFORE WAS COMMUNICATION WITH VENDORS.
THAT HAS COME UP IN THE PAST YEAR.
WE WANTED TO PUT SOME LANGUAGE IN THERE ABOUT COMMUNICATING WITH VENDORS.
THEN WE CONSOLIDATED THE COMMUNICATION WITH CONSTITUENTS AND COMMUNICATING WITH THE COMMUNITY.
THAT IS REALLY THE BIG HIGHLIGHTS.
EVERYTHING ELSE WAS JUST CLEANUP.
>> THANK YOU, MS. OROSCO. I KNOW WE'VE HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT SOME OF THIS, BUT I KNOW WE MAY STILL HAVE SOME QUESTIONS AS WELL.
I'LL START ON MY LEFT. IT WAS SUGGESTED THAT WE JUST GO AHEAD AND GO PAGE BY PAGE.
I WOULD KEEP THIS FIRST EXECUTIVE SUMMARY PAGE HANDY.
WE'LL JUST GO AHEAD AND GO PAGE BY PAGE THEN.
>> GUYS, ALSO, PLEASE KNOW THAT I'LL UPDATE THE PHOTOS IN THE BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURE ONCE THE LANGUAGE IS FORMATTED.
>> THANK YOU, MS. GLORIA. THEN ALSO, WHO'S TRACKING ANY CHANGES? MS. PETREA, THANK YOU FOR DOING IT.
AGAIN, PHOTOS WILL BE UPDATED.
WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THAT. IS THERE ANYTHING ON THE COVER ANYBODY NEEDS TO CHIME IN ON? NO. SECOND PAGE IS THE DRAFT TABLE OF CONTENTS.
I KNOW THERE'S ONE CHANGE ON THERE.
TALKED ABOUT THE COMMUNICATING WITH CONSTITUENTS.
TALKED ABOUT COMBINING THAT. ANY OTHER CONCERNS ON THAT PAGE? THE TABLE OF CONTENTS WE'LL SKIP FOR NOW.
GREAT. TEAM, WE ARE ON PAGE 3.
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THAT IS THE ONE IN THE BIG BLUE BOX, IT SAYS ALL TRUSTEES TAKE THE OATH OF OFFICE.AS YOU HAVE A CONCERN OR ANYTHING, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND AND I'LL MAKE SURE TO CALL ON YOU.
I DON'T THINK ANYBODY HAS ANY SO FAR.
PAGE 3. THANK YOU. ANYTHING ON PAGE 4? MR. SEVERANCE, PAGE 4, YES, SIR.
IS THERE A WAY TO POSSIBLY MOVE WHAT'S ON PAGE 4 ONTO PAGE 3, AND THEN MAYBE MOVE THE PICTURE, CHANGE THE PICTURE, AND JUST CUT OUT THE WHOLE PAGE.
I'M NOT TRYING TO CUT YOU OUT OF THAT PICTURE, PRESIDENT VELA.
>> I DO WANT TO DISAGREE WITH THAT.
CAN WE SHRINK THE PICTURE A LITTLE BIT? WE CAN REFORMAT.
>> I JUST WANTED TO ADD, AND I PUT A NOTATION ON HERE THE COMMUNICATION TEAM IS GOING TO REFORMAT EVERYTHING BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO SUBMIT THIS FOR ONE OF THEIR AWARDS APPLICATION.
EVERYTHING WILL BE REFORMATTED WITH NEW PICTURES.
THE CONTENT IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
DON'T WORRY ABOUT THE PICTURES OR THE FORMATTING.
THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT BECAUSE THEY ARE AWARD WINNING COMMUNICATION TEAM.
LOOKING TO MY RIGHT, LOOKING TO MY LEFT. PAGE 6.
I KNOW HEARD ABOUT SOME OF THE SUGGESTED CHANGES ON PAGE 6.
>> TRUSTEE OROSCO, REMIND ME WHERE YOU TOOK OUT, YOU SAID WE STILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO DIRECTLY WITH CABINET MEMBERS.
>> IT'S HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW ON THE BOTTOM OF PAGE 6.
>> LOOKING AT MY RIGHT. PAGE 6. MS. RUNKLE.
>> JUST ON THAT BULLETIN, BOARD MEMBERS ARE EXPECTED TO ATTEND AND PARTICIPATE IN DULY CALLED MEETINGS.
BOARD MEMBERS SHOULD COME TO THE BOARD MEETING PREPARED TO DISCUSS ALL ITEMS ON THE AGENDA AS APPROPRIATE.
JUST FIXING A CLERICAL ISSUE THERE UNDER BOARD MEETINGS AND BOARD MEMBER CONTACTS, PREPARE TO DISCUSS ALL ITEMS ON THE AGENDA AS APPROPRIATE.
REMOVING AND AND THEN [INAUDIBLE] THEN YOU'VE UPDATED.
SUPERINTENDENT OR APPROPRIATE CABINET MEMBER? THAT'S ALL I HAVE ON PAGE 6.
>> ON THERE WHERE IT SAYS, TO DISCUSS AND ACT ON ALL ITEMS. IT'S HARD TO SEE, BUT WE STRUCK TAKE ACTION AND REPLACED THAT WITH ACT.
BECAUSE WE MAY NOT HAVE TO TAKE ACTION PER SE ON THAT.
>> THAT'S WHY THE AND IS THERE BECAUSE IT'S DISCUSS AND ACT ON ALL ITEMS.
>> WE DON'T ALWAYS TAKE ACTION, BUT WE ALWAYS ACT.
>> ACT AS IN WE'RE ASKING QUESTIONS, HAVING DISCUSSION.
THAT'S WHY WE TOOK OUT TAKE ACTION.
ACT. WE EITHER DISCUSS, TAKE ACTION OR ASK QUESTIONS.
I WOULD HAVE JUST KEPT IT THE SAME IF THAT'S THE CASE.
>> THE ATTEMPT WAS BECAUSE WE DON'T TAKE ACTION ON EVERY ITEM.
THAT'S WHY AND ACT AS APPROPRIATE.
THAT'S WHY ACT AS APPROPRIATE AT THE END.
>> THE AS APPROPRIATE CLOSE IT UP THERE.
GOOD DEAL. ANY OTHER? YES, MISS PETREA.
>> JUST A COUPLE OF CLERICAL THINGS.
I THINK I'M JUST GOING TO HAVE TO MARK THIS UP, MS. GLORIA, BECAUSE IT'S TOO HARD.
I'M JUST GOING TO DO IT ON A SPREADSHEET.
IF WE SAY PREPARED TO DISCUSS AND ACT ON ALL ITEMS ON THE AGENDA, I'M JUST GOING TO SAY, AS APPROPRIATE.
THEN DOWN AT THE BOTTOM WHERE WE SAY GOOGLE, WE'RE GOING TO CAPITALIZE GOOGLE WHEN WE SAY IT.
PERFECT? THAT WAS ALL THAT I HAVE. FIRST PAGE 6.
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>> PRESIDENT VELA, I WOULD LIKE TO DEFER ALL GRAMMAR TO MISS PETREA.
WE DON'T HAVE TO TALK ABOUT EVERY SINGLE COMMA.
>> FIX ANY GRAMMAR. WE HAD IT FIXED, BUT IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU CATCH OR CAPITALS, FEEL FREE TO DO THAT.
>> WE CAN ALWAYS SPELL CHECK IT THROUGH CHATGPT AS WELL. I'M KIDDING.
MISS PETREA, YOU ARE KEEPING TRACK OF ALL THE COMMAS, THANK YOU, AND ALL OTHER THINGS PUNCTUATION.
CAN WE MOVE THOSE THREE LINES? I JUST WANT TO SAY IT. I'II SAY WHAT I WANT.
>> WE'RE GOING TO DEFER ALL THE PAGE FORMATTING QUESTIONS TO BYRON'S FAVORITES. THANK YOU, SIR.
ALL THE COMMENTS ARE OVER HERE WITH MISS PETREA, AND ALL THE EMPTY PAGES ARE WITH BYRON.
START WITH MISS RUNKLE ON PAGE 8?
>> YES. I NOTICED IN HERE, YOU GUYS PUT BOARD MEMBERS WILL ATTEMPT TO HAVE ALL QUESTIONS REGARDING AGENDA ITEMS SUBMITTED TO THE SUPERINTENDENT ONE BUSINESS DAY PRIOR TO THE WORKSHOP MEETING.
I'M GOOD WITH THAT, BUT I'D LIKE TO BE CONSISTENT.
IN TWO BULLETS AHEAD OF THAT, IT SAYS 72 HOURS PRIOR TO A REGULAR BOARD MEETING.
CAN WE PUT 72 BUSINESS HOURS BEFORE A BOARD MEETING?
BECAUSE IN THE FIFTH BULLET, WE PUT ONE BUSINESS DAYS, SO I'M ASKING US TO PUT 72 BUSINESS HOURS OR 72 HOURS, OR THREE BUSINESS DAYS, WHATEVER.
>> WE HAVE AN UPDATED ONE. THERE WE GO.
SHE FOUND IT. SEE IF WE'RE GOOD.
>> WELL, WE ARE GOOD UNTIL WE GET TO PAGE 9. [LAUGHTER]
>> WE'RE ON PAGE 8. ANYTHING ELSE? MISS PETREA.
I>> JUST HAD A GENERAL COMMENT.
I KNOW WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT CONTENT, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS REDESIGNED AND PICTURES.
I THINK MISS HARVEST WILL BE WORKING ON THIS.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WHAT WE VOTE ON IS THE FINAL FINAL.
I FEEL BAD GIVING THEM A DAY, BASICALLY OR TWO DAYS TO GET THIS DONE BY MONDAY.
I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE THAT I DON'T WANT TO VOTE ON JUST TEXT.
I WANT TO VOTE ON THE WHOLE THING.
>> THANK YOU, MISS PETREA. MISS OROSCO.
>> WE HAVE NOT VOTED ON THE BOOKLET BEFORE.
IT'S A CONTENT THAT WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR.
THE FORMATTING AND THE PICTURES IS SOMETHING THAT THEY HAVE TAKEN THEIR TIME TO DO BECAUSE THEY DO SUBMIT IT FOR AN AWARD.
I THINK WE NEED TO VOTE ON THE CONTENT.
WE HAVE BEEN PUSHING THIS OFF SINCE AUGUST.
IF THERE IS ANY ISSUES WITH ANY FORMATTING OR IF IT DOESN'T MEET OUR EXPECTATIONS, I THINK WE CAN BRING THAT UP TO THEM.
I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO PUSH THIS OFF ANY LONGER BECAUSE OF FORMATTING, AND THEY WON'T HAVE IT BY MONDAY. I KNOW THAT.
>> I HAVE A COMPROMISE. CAN THE COMMITTEE WORK WITH MISS HARVEST TO DO SOME REVIEWS AND CHECKS BECAUSE IT WILL NOT BE PERFECT, AND YOU WILL HAVE TO GO BACK THROUGH IT WHEN IT'S REFORMATTED, AND ALL THE PICTURES ARE IN?
>> THAT WOULD BE MY REQUEST IS THAT SOMEBODY BE CHECKING THAT.
>> WE CAN DEFINITELY ACCOMMODATE THAT. MISS OROSCO.
>> I ALREADY TALKED TO MR. SAVOY ABOUT THAT, AND WE ARE DOING THAT.
>> TEAM, ON PAGE 9, LOOKING TO MY LEFT. MR. SEVERANCE.
>> I FEEL LIKE I'M GOING TO GET IN TROUBLE FOR FORMATTING AGAIN.
ON PAGE 8, THE SECOND BULLET FROM THE BOTTOM, IT SAYS THE BOARD PRESIDENT.
>> MISS PETREA IS LOOKING AT THAT AS WELL.
REMEMBER SHE'S DOING GRAMMAR AND ALL OF THAT.
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>> WE'RE GOOD ON PAGE 8? WE'RE GOOD ON PAGE 8, SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO PAGE 9.
ALREADY LOOKED TO MY LEFT. AGAIN, NO QUESTIONS.
>> LET'S TRY THIS AGAIN. ON THE THIRD BULLETIN, IF WE CAN JUST ADD THREE BUSINESS DAYS AND JUST BE CONSISTENT WITH THE FIFTH BULLETIN, THAT'D BE GREAT.
I'D RATHER JUST BE CONSISTENT AND SAY THREE BUSINESS DAYS.
>> THE SUGGESTED IS THREE BUSINESS DAYS, NOT JUST 72 HOURS.
THAT WAS OVER HERE FROM THE RIGHT. MR. SEVERANCE.
>> I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT IF WE MEETINGS ON MONDAY, THAT'S FRIDAY, THURSDAY, WEDNESDAY.
WE'RE SAYING WE GOT TO HAVE IT WEDNESDAY MORNING OR TUESDAY AFTERNOON?
>> SEVENTY-TWO BUSINESS HOURS.
>> IT MEANS 72 BUSINESS HOURS.
THIS HAS BEEN A THING THAT I HAVE COMMUNICATED, AND I HAVE JUST BEGGED FOR THE ENTIRE TIME I'VE BEEN ON THIS BOARD IS FOR US TO PLEASE WORK TOWARDS GETTING AGENDAS ON A WEDNESDAY.
PLEASE. YES, THAT'S MY REASONING FOR THE 72 HOURS.
I KNOW THAT WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT, BUT WE ARE A VERY LARGE DISTRICT, AND THERE IS WAY TOO MUCH INFORMATION FOR US TO BE DIGESTING TWO BUSINESS DAYS BEFORE A MEETING.
I WOULD LIKE TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THAT.
>> MR. SEVERANCE, THEN MISS OROSCO. YES, SIR.
>> I JUST WANT TO BE COGNIZANT. THE CABINET IS ON TUESDAY.
AGENDA SETTING, IS THAT AFTER CABINET THEN? I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S EVER BEEN AGENDA SETTING FINISHED, READY TO GO WEDNESDAY MORNING POST.
WOULD THAT MEAN AGENDA SITTING THEN HAS TO MOVE TO MONDAYS? I GET IT. I'M JUST WONDERING MAYBE IS THERE A WAY TO MAYBE HUDDLE UP ON THAT AND LET US KNOW.
I WOULD LIKE TO LET MISS RUNKLE. QUESTION.
>> WHAT IS INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT AS A TRUSTEE IS TO GET INFORMATION ON A THURSDAY OR A FRIDAY.
I TOTALLY EMPATHIZE WITH THE FACT THAT YOU GUYS MAY HAVE TO MAKE SOME CHANGES, BUT WE ALL HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN ALL PUSH THINGS OUT.
I WOULD LIKE TO STICK WITH THAT.
I'M SORRY IF YOU GUYS HAVE TO MOVE SOME THINGS AROUND, BUT I THINK IT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE BOARD AND THE DISTRICT AS A WHOLE.
>> MISS OROSCO AND THEN I'LL COME BACK OVER TO THIS SIDE. MISS OROSCO.
AGENDA SETTING DOESN'T ALWAYS HAVE TO BE ON TUESDAY.
CABINET DOESN'T ALWAYS HAVE TO BE THIS OR THAT.
YOU CAN ACCOMMODATE AS NEEDED.
I KNOW WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
WE ACTUALLY HAD IT IN OUR BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURES ALREADY.
WE WERE JUST NOT PRACTICING IT.
IF WE'RE GOING TO PUT IT IN HERE, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING IT.
THAT'S WHY WE WENT AND CLEANED EVERYTHING UP TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THAT IS OUR PRACTICE, THEN IT'S WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING.
>> I GUESS I JUST DON'T AGREE WITH THAT, THREE BUSINESS DAYS.
I DON'T PICK UP MINE UNTIL FRIDAY, AND THEN I WORK ON IT ON THE WEEKEND, BECAUSE WE HAVE A FULL WEEK OF TIME.
IF WE HAD ONE MEETING A MONTH, I WOULD TOTALLY BE IN AGREEMENT WITH THE WEDNESDAY BEFORE.
BUT HAVING BEEN PRESIDENT AND KNOWING THE CABINET MEETINGS, THE AGENDAS, ALL THE THINGS THEY HAVE TO GET TOGETHER PRIOR TO AGENDA SETTING TO THEN TURN IT AROUND, THE QUESTIONS YOU HAVE TO GET ANSWERED, THE CHANGES THAT YOU HAVE TO MAKE AT AGENDA SETTING, POTENTIALLY, BECAUSE WE HAVE AGENDA SETTING TUESDAY.
BARBARA CAN CRANK THESE OUT PRETTY QUICK.
IN MY OPINION, CLOSE OF BUSINESS WEDNESDAY FEELS MORE REASONABLE OR PICK UP ON THURSDAY OR WEDNESDAY NIGHT, IF NOW WE CAN SCAN OUR WAY INTO THE BUILDING AND PICK IT UP ON A WEDNESDAY EVENING.
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BUT I FEEL LIKE BECAUSE WE HAVE A WEEK TIME TO TURN THINGS AROUND, I DON'T NEED MINE ON WEDNESDAY MORNING.I AM STILL GOING TO PICK IT UP ON FRIDAY BECAUSE I WORK FULL TIME, AND I'M NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT IT UNTIL THE WEEKEND ANYWAY.
IF YOU TRY TO PUT RULES ON ME, WHICH I KNOW THEY DO, OF ONE BUSINESS DAY BEFORE THE MEETING ON MONDAY, I'M NOT GOING TO DO THAT EITHER.
SORRY, I'M GOING TO SEND YOU MY QUESTION SUNDAY NIGHT BEFORE THE MONDAY BOARD MEETING, BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN I HAVE TIME TO DO THIS TYPICALLY.
AGAIN, IN MY OPINION, I DON'T EXPECT THE CABINET TO ANSWER MY QUESTIONS IF I SEND THEM SUNDAY NIGHT BY MONDAY, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT I'M LATE.
BECAUSE AGAIN, WE HAVE A WEEK TO TALK IT OUT.
I CAN ASK THOSE QUESTIONS ON THE DIAS.
THEY'RE READY FOR THEM. THAT'S WHAT I DO.
BUT ALSO WE HAVE A FEW DAYS BEFORE WE VOTE.
>> TEAM, I WANT TIME. I KNOW WE'VE GONE BACK AND FORTH, AND I'LL GET TO YOU.
[NOISE] SEVENTY-TWO BUSINESS HOURS BEFORE THE MEETING TO ME MEANS 5:30 PM.
IF THE MEETING IS ON A MONDAY AT 5:30 PM, THEN IT WOULD BE 5:30 PM.
WE'RE TO YOUR POINT, MISS PETREA.
IN THE BUSINESS WORLD, WE SAY CLOSE OF BUSINESS.
WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE IF WE DO A 48 BUSINESS HOURS, IF WE DO IT ON THE THURSDAY, DR. WRIGHT WITH CABINET? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO? WE'RE DOING THAT NOW? MISS OROSCO AND MISS RUNKLE. MISS OROSCO.
>> LIKE MR. SEVERANCE LIKES TO SAY, I'LL EXTEND AN OLIVE BRANCH.
I AM GOOD WITH 48 HOURS BEFORE.
I DON'T MEAN WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT WEDNESDAY OR IF IT WERE TO BE WEDNESDAY, 72 HOURS, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT AM.
EVERYBODY'S DIFFERENT, SO EVERYBODY LOOKS AT IT AT DIFFERENT TIMES.
I WORK WITH LARGER DISTRICTS THAT HAVE THIS INFORMATION TO THEIR BOARD MEMBERS A WEEK, TWO WEEKS IN ADVANCE.
AS BOARD PRESIDENT, YOU CAN ALSO SAY, AND I TOLD DR. WRIGHT THIS WHEN I WAS BOARD PRESIDENT, I TOLD HIM, YOU DON'T HAVE THIS INFORMATION, WE'RE PULLING IT BECAUSE I WILL NEVER BE, AGAIN, AS BOARD PRESIDENT, I DON'T WANT YOU TO COME WITH AN AGENDA AND TELL ME IT'S A PLACEHOLDER.
THEN I COME TO THE BOARD MEETING, AND IT'S ALL JACKED UP, AND THEN I GET YELLED AT BY MEREDITH KELLER BECAUSE I ALLOWED THAT PLACEHOLDER.
AFTER THAT, I SAID, NO, SIR, NO, MA'AM.
YOU DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION DURING AGENDA SETTING, IT'S OUT.
WE JUST GOT TO BE COGNIZANT OF THESE THINGS BECAUSE AS WE HAVE SEEN, WHEN CORRECTIONS ARE MADE DURING AGENDA SETTING, SOME STUFF STILL COMES INCORRECT TO US, AND I'M GOOD WITH THAT 48 HOURS.
>> I JUST WANT TO SHARE THAT AS SOON AS I GET THAT BOARD AGENDA MEETING, I'M OPENING UP.
I DON'T WANT TO SPEND MY ENTIRE WEEKEND WORKING.
THE ADMINISTRATION ISN'T ANSWERING OUR QUESTIONS ON A WEEKEND OR WORKING OVER THE WEEKEND, SO I DON'T WANT TO BE DOING THAT.
I JUST WANT TO BE REAL CLEAR ABOUT THAT.
I CARE ABOUT MY WEEKENDS AND MY FAMILY TIME, TOO.
I AM GOOD WITH THE END OF DAY ON WEDNESDAY BECAUSE THURSDAY MORNING, WHAT'S THE END OF DAY VERSUS THURSDAY MORNING? WHAT ARE YOU POSSIBLY GOING TO DO FROM THE TIME YOU LEAVE UNTIL THAT FOLLOWING MORNING? I'M GOOD WITH END OF DAY ON WEDNESDAY IF WE CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? TWO DAYS, 48 HOURS, END OF DAY PRIOR, BEFORE, TWO FULL BUSINESS.
I KNOW SOMEBODY CAPTURED THAT.
I DON'T THINK I FULLY UNDERSTAND WHAT WE AGREED ON, BUT WE GOT IT CAPTURED. MR. SEIBEL.
>> I'M JUST CURIOUS DR. WRIGHT.
HOW DOES THAT IMPACT THE WHOLE PROCESS? I'M NEW TO THIS. I DON'T REALLY KNOW.
>> WE WORK AT THE PLEASURE OF YOU GUYS, AND SO WE'LL HAVE TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION OF HOW TO MAKE IT WORK.
>> BUT IF WE ARE ASKING IN A BUSINESS DAY ON WEDNESDAYS, DOES THAT FORCE YOU TO MOVE THE CABINET MEETING UP?
WE'VE DONE IT BEFORE. WE CAN DO IT AGAIN.
I CAN MOVE IT TO MONDAY OR FRIDAY.
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>> AND ALSO NOTE THAT THIS DOES FALL ON THE PRESIDENT AS WELL BECAUSE AS PRESIDENT, WE REVIEW THAT CHANGES WERE MADE ACCORDINGLY, AND WE CHECK IT, SO IT NEEDS TO GO THROUGH THE PRESIDENT AS WELL.
SO KEEP IN MIND, MR. PRESIDENT, THAT PIECE AS WELL.
SO THERE IS WORK ON ALL SIDES FROM THE BOARD SIDE, THROUGH OUR BOARD PRESIDENT AND THROUGH THE SUPERINTENDENT IN HIS OFFICE.
>> THE LOG GEM IS NOT ON THE SEAT.
I'M JUST SAYING, I'M JUST KIDDING. ALL RIGHT.
TEAM, WE'RE MOVING ON TO PAGE 10.
QUESTIONS LOOKING RIGHT, MS. RUNKLE?
>> YEAH. I JUST WANT SOME CLARITY ON MAYBE WHY THAT SENTENCE WAS ADDED TO ME, IT'S ALREADY STATED IN THE PRIOR SENTENCE.
SO I WAS JUST CURIOUS AS TO WHY YOU GUYS.
IT'S ON PAGE 9, IT'S THE ADDED.
"ALTHOUGH THERE MAY BE DISSENTING VOTES, WHICH ARE A MATTER OF PUBLIC RECORD, EACH BOARD DECISION SHALL BE AN ACTION BY THE WHOLE BOARD BINDING UPON EACH MEMBER." IN THE SENTENCE ABOVE THAT, "IT SAYS THERE MAY BE DISSENTING VOTES WHICH ARE A MATTER OF RECORD.
HOWEVER, ONCE A DECISION HAS BEEN MADE, ALL BOARD MEMBERS SHOULD SUPPORT THE VOTE OF THE BODY CORPORATE AND IT'S ALSO STATED IN OUR SOCIAL CONTRACT." SO I'M JUST CURIOUS WHY THAT GOT ADDED.
>> AND THAT'S ON PAGE 10, YOU SAID PAGE 9 BUT WE'RE ON PAGE 10.
>> SO THE PAGE NUMBERS ON THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY CHANGED BECAUSE OF HOW IT WAS REFORMATTED AFTER THE FACT.
IT JUST HIGHLIGHTS THE IMPORTANCE OF RESPECTING THE WILL OF THE BODY CORPORATE.
THIS IS AN ISSUE ALL OVER WITH OVER 1,000 BOARDS OUT THERE.
THIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN SOMETHING THAT COMES UP.
SO WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE TO RE-EMPHASIZE IT.
ESPECIALLY AS WE GET NEW PEOPLE IN.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE, THAT HAS NOT ALWAYS BEEN THE CASE WITH OUR BOARD, IN OUR DISTRICT.
SO WE WANT TO EMPHASIZE RESPECT THE BODY CORPORATE.
SO YOU CAN'T SAY IT ENOUGH IS WHAT OUR DISCUSSION WAS.
I KNOW THAT THE LAST TIME WE WORKED ON BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURES.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT WAS NOT ADDING SO MANY THINGS TO BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURES.
AND SO IT FEELS LIKE WE'RE JUST ADDING THINGS THAT ARE ALREADY STATED.
AND SO I'M GOOD WITH IT, I JUST WANT TO BE MINDFUL OF ADDING MORE THINGS TO OUR BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURES.
>> THANK YOU, MS. RUNKLE. MS. OROSCO?
>> AND WE ALSO DELETED A LOT AS WELL.
SO JUST KNOW THAT, THAT THAT'S WHERE IT BALANCES OUT.
>> WE CAN MAKE A NOTE FOR MR. SEVERANCE'S PLEASURE, PAGE 11 CAN BE DELETED.
LOOKING OVER TO MY LEFT, PAGE 12. LOOKING AT MY RIGHT.
ON PAGE 12. YES, THE ONE WITH FORMER TRUSTEE WILL MCMANUS.
>> YES. UNDER INTERNAL BOARD COMMITTEES, I WOULD JUST ASK THAT WE ADD IN HERE THAT WHENEVER COMMITTEES ARE FORMED, THAT OUR BOARD OFFICER OR BOARD PRESIDENT JUST NOTIFIES THE REST OF THE BOARD THAT A COMMITTEE HAS BEEN FORMED.
AND WHAT THEY'RE WORKING ON JUST SO THAT WE'RE NOT WORKING IN SILOS, AND WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WANT TO WORD THAT MAYBE MS. PETREA YOU WANT TOWARD SMITH THAT.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF HERE TO RIGHT ON PAGE 13 LOOKING LEFT. MOVING ON.
MR. SEVERANCE, SKIP MR. SEVERANCE. LOOKING RIGHT.
>> YES, I HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS.
SO THEY ARE JUST AGAIN, CLARITY, AND I'M PROBABLY GOING TO GET THE SAME ANSWER.
SO THAT FIRST ADDED, "IF A BOARD MEMBER IS NOT ACTING IN HIS OR HER OFFICIAL CAPACITY, THE BOARD MEMBER HAS NO GREATER RIGHT TO DISTRICT RECORDS THAN A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC." AGAIN, WE ALL KNOW THIS AND IT'S STATED.
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AND THEN I DO HAVE A QUESTION ON THIS ONE, PARAGRAPH THAT'S NOT HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW, BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT AND I DON'T THINK WE DO IT.SO I NEED SOME CLARIFICATION ON THAT.
"A BOARD MEMBER MAY REQUEST EXISTING INFORMATION AND REPORTS FROM THE SUPERINTENDENT'S OFFICE," THAT ENTIRE PARAGRAPH RIGHT THERE.
"IF THE INFORMATION IS NOT AVAILABLE OR A NEW REPORT MUST BE GENERATED. " SO THIS NEEDS TO BE TAKEN, WAS THIS TAKEN OUT TOO?
>> NO, THIS IS AN EXISTING LANGUAGE.
>> NO, I KNOW, BUT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS IS, WHAT IT MEANS, AND DO WE FOLLOW IT? BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE FOLLOW IT.
CAN YOU GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT SOMEBODY WOULD REQUEST FOR THIS SPECIFICALLY LIKE A SCENARIO TO HELP ME UNDERSTAND?
>> I WILL GIVE YOU A REAL LIFE SCENARIO.
>> YEAH. THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING ME.
SO A REAL LIFE SCENARIO IS ASKING, THERE IS ONE TIME WE ASKED FOR THE PAY OF TRANSPORTATION, HOW MANY YEARS OF SERVICE, FOR TRANSPORTATION WAS JUST TRANSPORTATION AT THAT TIME.
SO THAT WAS A REPORT THAT HAD TO BE GENERATED.
AND SO NOT DR. WRIGHT, THE SUPERINTENDENT AT THE TIME ASKED THE BOARD PRESIDENT IF IT WAS OKAY AND THE BOARD PRESIDENT SAID IT WAS OKAY, APPROVED IT BECAUSE IT WAS A NEW REPORT THAT NEEDED TO BE GENERATED.
WELL, IT ENDED UP BEING 7,000 PAGES OF WHAT THEY GAVE OUT.
SO HAD THE BOARD PRESIDENT KNOWN THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE A 7,000 PAGE REPORT, THAT TOOK, I THINK THEY QUOTED AS 40-80 HOURS OR SOMETHING, THEY WOULD NOT HAVE APPROVED THAT NEW REPORT TO BE GENERATED.
SO THAT'S JUST AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT HAS OCCURRED IN THE PAST.
WHILE IT HAS NOT OCCURRED CURRENTLY THAT IS STANDARD, THAT'S WHY IT'S IN THERE.
THAT NEXT HIGHLIGHTED, "BOARD MEMBER INQUIRY SHOULD BE SUBMITTED THROUGH THE BOARD'S GOOGLE FORM.
THESE INQUIRIES WILL BE DIRECTED," BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, THAT'S ALREADY STATED ON PAGE 36.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED THAT STATED AGAIN.
AND THEN THAT LAST ONE THAT GOT ADDED ABOUT THE KEEPING TRACK OF ALL OF OUR QUESTION.
SO WHO ACTUALLY KEEPS TRACK OF THIS AND WHERE'S THAT LOG? WHO? YOU KEEP TRACK OF IT, ESPERANZA?
>> THAT IS ACTUALLY A LAW THAT IS REQUIRED, SO IT NEEDS TO BE SUBMITTED WHILE MOST DISTRICTS DO NOT KNOW OF IT.
THAT IS SOMETHING TA LOOKS AT, ESPECIALLY IF THERE'S A DYSFUNCTIONAL BOARD, THAT IS SOMETHING THEY LOOKED AT BUT WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT.
AS DR. WRIGHT AND I HAD DONE A PANEL DISCUSSION OR A PRESENTATION THIS PAST SUMMER, DR. WRIGHT WAS LIKE, "OH, I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT IT." SO YES THAT IS A THING THROUGH TEXAS EDUCATION CODE THAT IS IN OUR EDUCATION CODE THAT WE NEED TO DO THAT.
SO MS. GLORIA IS THE ONE WHO CAPTURES THAT AND THAT'S WHY A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE MOVING TO MORE LIKE GOOGLE FORMS AND STUFF SO THEY CAN CAPTURE THAT AND IT'S EASIER TO TRACK QUESTIONS.
AND THAT'S WHY THAT'S IN THERE.
>> YEAH, THAT MAKES SENSE. I WAS JUST CURIOUS WHO ACTUALLY KEEPS THAT LOG AND WHO'S TRACKING THAT.
PERFECT. THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE ON THAT PAGE.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON PAGE 14, MR. SEVERANCE?
>> THANK YOU. SO ARE YOU SAYING THAT WE SHOULD BE SUBMITTING ALL QUESTIONS TO GOOGLE FORM, AND THEN NOT SUBMIT QUESTIONS TO YOUR CABINET BUT YOU WANT TO SUBMIT IT TO THE GOOGLE FORM SO WE CAN TRACK IT?
>> CABINET IS SUPPOSED TO IF YOU CONTACT THEM AND ASK THEM A QUESTION THAT HADN'T BEEN LOGGED, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO LOG IT ON YOUR BEHALF.
SO THAT ALL BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ACCESS TO THE SAME INFORMATION.
>> DO THEY DO THAT? DO WE KNOW IF THEY DO THAT?
I CAN'T SAY WE DO IT 100% OF THE TIME BUT WE TRY TO.
GOT IT. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. THANKS.
PAGE 15, 15 I'M LOOKING LEFT, 15 I'M LOOKING RIGHT.
>> I SEE THAT WHAT GOT ADDED WAS,
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"BOARD MEMBERS SHALL NOT VISIT A CAMPUS IN ANY ATTEMPT TO ASSESS, EVALUATE, OR MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE DELIVERY OF EDUCATION." I KNOW IT'S POLICY SO THAT WAS ADDED, I'M JUST CLARIFYING WHAT GOT ADDED.AND THEN UNDERNEATH THAT, THE SUPERINTENDENT AND BOARD PRESIDENT WILL MEET WITH EACH NEWLY ELECTED OR APPOINTED BOARD MEMBER.
SO I'D LIKE TO JUST CLARIFY WHEN THAT HAPPENS.
SO CAN WE PUT A TIMELINE ON THIS? LIKE IS IT A WEEK, IS IT TWO WEEKS? IS IT BEFORE? IS IT AFTER SWEARING IN, THAT TYPE OF THING? I WOULD JUST LIKE TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFIC SO THAT THE INCOMING BOARD MEMBER UNDERSTANDS WHEN WE'RE GOING TO MEET WITH THEM.
>> YEAH. SO THAT ONE'S ACTUALLY IN LAW, AND WE HAVE TO DO IT WITHIN 60 DAYS.
>> WELL, 60 DAYS SOUNDS REALLY TERRIBLE.
SO CAN WE JUST PUT LIKE IMMEDIATELY. GO AHEAD.
>> YEAH. SINCE I WAS ONE THAT MOST RECENTLY WENT THROUGH THIS.
NOW, BECAUSE ON PAGE 17 OR PAGE 16, THE NEXT PAGE WE TALK ABOUT THE LOGISTICAL SIDE OF THINGS, GETTING YOUR BADGE AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
ON THAT PAGE, SO WE'LL GET TO THAT PART OF IT.
AND THEN WHAT WE'RE REFERENCING HERE IS THE FULL FORMAL ORIENTATION WITH THE BOARD PRESIDENT AND SUPERINTENDENT AND GOING THROUGH THE WHOLE BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURES AND WE SPENT WHAT WAS LIKE 8 HOURS THAT DAY GOING THROUGH PRETTY MUCH.
>> YOU HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS? KIDDING.
>> SO TO YOUR POINT, THE LAW IS 60 DAYS SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO REFERENCE THAT IN THERE.
>> WE ALSO HAVE TO THINK ABOUT, WE KNOW EACH OTHER AND WE KNOW HOW WE WOULD TREAT EACH OTHER AND HOW WE WOULD TREAT INCOMING BOARD MEMBERS.
BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO LOOK AT THESE BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURES AS IF NONE OF US ARE HERE AND IT'S SOMEBODY ELSE.
AND SO THERE WAS A TIME WHERE THERE WAS A VERY NOT CONSENSUS BOARD.
SO I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO HAVE ONE DAY WHERE THERE'S A PRESIDENT THAT'S NOT HAPPY WITH AN INCOMING BOARD MEMBER AND JUST WANTS TO BE A JERK AND WANTS TO WAIT OUT THE 30-60 DAYS.
SO THAT'S MY POINT I JUST WANT SOME CLARIFICATION ON IT.
>> SO WE ACTUALLY HAD IT IN THERE BEFORE LIKE THAT.
TWO YEARS PAST WHERE WE SAID BEFORE THE FIRST BOARD MEETING IS WHAT WE HAD ON THERE.
HOWEVER, WHEN WE REVIEWED BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURES BEFORE THE WILL OF THE BOARD AT THE TIME, AND IT CAN CHANGE NOW, BUT THE WILL OF THE BOARD AT THE TIME WAS TAKING THAT OFF AND NOT LIMITING THAT.
BECAUSE I KNOW WHEN A NEW BOARD MEMBER CAME, THEY COULD NOT MEET THAT TIME.
AND SO THEY'RE LIKE, WELL, THIS DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE, GIVE US A LEEWAY TO HAVE WITHIN 60 DAYS.
DON'T SAY BEFORE THAT FIRST BOARD MEETING BECAUSE THAT'S LIMITING.
AND I KNOW THAT HAPPENED LIKE TWO YEARS AGO OR SO.
SO THAT'S WHY IT WAS CHANGED BACK THEN.
I THINK WITHIN 60 DAYS GIVES YOU THAT LEEWAY, KNOWING THAT, OF COURSE, YOU WANT IT THE SOONER THE BETTER.
IT JUST DEPENDS ON EVERYBODY'S SCHEDULE AND SUCH.
SO THAT WAS THE REASONING. WE DIDN'T TAKE IT OFF.
THAT'S WHAT WAS TAKEN OFF TWO YEARS AGO AND WE HAD KEPT IT OFF.
>> YEAH, I'M IN FAVOR OF ADDING SOMETHING BACK ON THIS BECAUSE 60 DAYS IS TOO LONG AND THEN THE FIRST MEETING THE NEW PEOPLE GET SWORN IN AND THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE THEIR FIRST MEETING.
SO WHEN JOHNNY GOT ON I MET WITH HIM BEFORE THE FIRST MEETING TO GO THROUGH AN AGENDA AND HELP HIM OUT.
BUT MAYBE IT'S SOMETHING LIKE THE BOARD PRESIDENT MAY MEET WITH A NEW BOARD MEMBER PRIOR TO THEIR FIRST MEETING.
SO IT'S NOT A SHALL OR MUST TO JUST PUT IT.
I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT THE 60 DAYS IS BY LAW BUT WE COULD JUST HAVE AN INFORMAL SUGGESTION THAT THE BOARD PRESIDENT MAY MEET WITH THE NEW BOARD MEMBER PRIOR TO THEIR FIRST MEETING. WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK ABOUT THAT?
>> ANY OTHER PAGE 15 COMMENTS? PAGE 16, SEVERANCE?
>> WE TOOK OUT, "THE BOARD WILL ANNUALLY CONNECT TO SELF EVALUATION IN CLOSED SESSION," BECAUSE WE'LL HAVE TO DO THAT IN PUBLIC.
[03:35:02]
THAT'S JUST LIKE OUR TEAM BUILDING. YEAH.>> HAVE WE EVER DONE IT IN CLOSED SESSION? YEAH. I'M JUST CURIOUS WHY WAS THERE LIKE EVER.
>> PAGE 17, MR. SEVERANCE, WE GOT TO YOU.
PAGE 18, LOOKING RIGHT, MS. RUNKLE?.
>> OKAY. YES. SO ON ELECTING BOARD OFFICERS, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO PUT IN HERE THAT WE DO THIS LIKE ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.
I KNOW BUT IT DOESN'T SAY IN HERE THAT WE DO THIS ON ANNUAL BASIS.
>> POLICY IS REFERENCED AT THE BOTTOM.
>> I'M GOOD WITH THAT. NO, I'M GOOD WITH THAT.
I'M JUST SAYING I WOULD HAVE PUT IT OUT IN THE DESCRIPTION A LITTLE BIT MORE.
WE ELECT OFFICERS ON AN ANNUAL BASIS VERSUS SOMEBODY HAVING TO GO LOOK AT BOARD POLICY.
IT'S JUST REAL SIMPLE WORDING BUT WHATEVER.
>> I'VE SEEN A COUPLE OF HIT NOT SAYING YES, WE CAN HAVE THAT.
>> THE BOARD WILL ANNUALLY [OVERLAPPING]
>> THE BOARD WILL ANNUALLY ELECT.
>> ELECT A PRESIDENT. OR ACTUALLY SHALL BECAUSE IT IS MANDATED.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO, BUT YOU HAVE TO AT LEAST DO IT ONCE.
WE CAN PUT ON THERE AFTER EACH ELECTION IF YOU WANT TO PUT THAT BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN IT'S SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN RIGHT AFTER THE ELECTION.
IF YOU WANT TO DO IT OR I CAN JUST COPY THE POLICY LANGUAGE ON THAT AND JUST CLICK IT ON THERE.
>> WE'RE ON PAGE 19. DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THERE'S ANY EDITS OR CHANGES TO THAT PAGE ON PUBLIC PARTICIPATION AND BOARD MEETINGS.
MOVING ON TO PAGE 20. AGAIN, NO COMMITTEE CHANGES BUT ONE SMALL ONE.
>> YES. ON THIS ADDED, BOARD MEMBERS SHALL NEVER MEET, TALK, TEXT, OR EMAIL IN A GROUP LARGE ENOUGH TO CONSTITUTE AN OFFICIAL MEETING, TYPICALLY FOUR OR MORE UNLESS NOTICE HAS BEEN POSTED.
I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADD IN CONNECTION WITH BOARD BUSINESS TO THAT BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE ARE ON A TEXT THREAD ABOUT BIRTHDAYS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT IT STAYS IN HERE THAT WE CAN'T HAVE A TEXT THREAD WITH FOUR PEOPLE.
IF I WANT TO BE CLEAR AND SAY IN CONNECTION WITH BOARD BUSINESS.
>> ANY OTHER SUGGESTIONS ON THIS PAGE? PAGE 22. MS. RUNKLE.
>> THE BOTTOM PART THAT WAS ADDED.
THIS IS PROBABLY THE BIGGEST ONE THAT I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH.
NOT ALL OF IT JUST A GOOD PORTION OF IT.
IT WAS JUST PULLED FROM THE TOPIC THAT WE HAD BEFORE, WHICH WAS COMMUNICATION WITH THE COMMUNITY.
>> NO, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT WITH VENDORS.
>> YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE VENDORS?
>> NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE VENDORS EITHER.
>> HOLD ON TEAM. MS. RUNKLE, PLEASE GO AHEAD FINISH, AND THEN WE'LL SEE WHAT YOUR QUESTION IS.
>> THAT ENTIRE HIGHLIGHTED SECTION AT THE BOTTOM, WHERE IT SAYS. LET ME GET IT.
IT'S TALKING ABOUT THE SOCIAL MEDIA ASPECT OF IT.
CLARIFY THAT HE OR SHE IS RESPONDING AS AN INDIVIDUAL AND NOT FOR THE BOARD.
REMIND THE READER OF ANY POSITION OR ACTION THE BOARD HAS OFFICIALLY TAKEN ON THIS SUBJECT.
I'M JUST GOING TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
I'M NOT GOING TO EVERY TIME I POST ON FACEBOOK POST OR ANY OTHER SOCIAL MEDIA THING AND SAY, I AM SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF COURTNEY RUNKLE AND MYSELF ONLY BECAUSE I SHOULD NOT HAVE TO DUMB THAT DOWN FOR PEOPLE.
[03:40:04]
IF I AM RESPONDING AS COURTNEY RUNKLE, I AM RESPONDING AS COURTNEY RUNKLE.UNLESS I SAY I AM SPEAKING FOR THE ENTIRE BOARD, WHICH WE DO NOT DO THAT, THEN THAT'S A DIFFERENT STORY.
BUT I'M GOING TO TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, I'M NOT GOING TO DO THIS.
I'M NOT GOING TO GET ON A POST AND I'M NOT GOING TO SAY I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF COURTNEY RUNKLE AND NOT OF THE ENTIRE BOARD EVERY TIME I WANT TO POST SOMETHING.
NOW, IF I'M POSTING SOMETHING ON MY BOARD PAGE, THAT'S A DIFFERENT STORY, THAT WOULD SPEAK FOR THE ENTIRE BOARD.
BUT I DON'T WANT TO BE IN THAT WHERE I'M BEING TOLD WHAT TO DO ON MY OWN PERSONAL PAGES AND HOW I RESPOND TO THINGS.
I WANT TO BE REAL CLEAR. WE'RE ALL ELECTED OFFICIALS.
QUITE FRANKLY, WE DO ALL OF THESE THINGS BECAUSE IT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF EACH OTHER, OUR TEAM, AND OUR DISTRICT, AND WE ALL WANT TO, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE DON'T HAVE TO DO ANY OF THIS.
I JUST WANT TO BE REAL CLEAR ABOUT THAT.
I'VE ALWAYS BEEN A TEAM PLAYER.
THAT'S THE WAY I RUN MY BUSINESS AND THE WAY I TREAT MY EMPLOYEES.
I'M ALWAYS GOING TO FOLLOW SOCIAL CONTRACTS.
I'M ALWAYS GOING TO FOLLOW ALL OF THESE, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO BE TOLD WHAT TO DO OR HOW TO ACT ON SOCIAL MEDIA. JUST NOT.
>> THANK YOU, SIR. YES, A LOT OF THIS ITEM WAS JUST PULLED FROM THE COMMUNICATION.
IT WAS LITERALLY JUST COMMUNICATION WITH CONSTITUENTS THAT WE USED TO HAVE ON THE CURRENT ONE, AND JUST PULLED DIRECTLY INTO THIS ONE.
WE DIDN'T ACTUALLY ADD ANYTHING OR CHANGE.
IT WAS JUST FROM A DIFFERENT SECTION.
BUT TO YOUR POINT, I KNOW BECAUSE GOING THROUGH TASB ORIENTATION, THE NEW TRUSTEE ORIENTATION, AND TALK ABOUT HOW TO HANDLE YOUR DIFFERENCE BETWEEN YOUR PERSONAL SOCIAL MEDIA AND YOUR BOARD SOCIAL MEDIA STUFF.
ON MY PERSONAL FACEBOOK PAGE, I JUST HAVE MY PIN POST AS ANYTHING FROM THIS PAGE COMES FROM ME AS GEOFF SEIBEL THE COMMUNITY MEMBER, NOT GEOFF SEIBEL THE TRUSTEE.
THAT'S JUST PINNED, AND THAT'S DONE.
THAT'S WHAT TASB RECOMMENDATION IS, HOW TO HANDLE THAT ASPECT.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO SAY THAT EVERY TIME YOU MAKE ANY SOCIAL MEDIA POST OR ANYTHING.
BUT THAT WASN'T ANY OF OUR INTENT AT ALL.
IT WAS JUST LITERALLY, WE CUT OUT THAT SECTION JUST TO CUT IT AND PUT IT INTO THIS SECTION BECAUSE IT ALL FOLLOWED IN COMMUNICATING WITH THE COMMUNITY.
IT WAS ALL COMMUNICATING WITH COMMUNITY IN ONE, SO WE JUST CUT IT AND PASTE IT IN HERE.
>> TOTALLY UNDERSTOOD, AND THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF COMMUNICATION ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND WE'VE HAD PEOPLE RESPOND AND WE'VE GOT PEOPLE RESPONDING FOR US AND ALL OF THAT THING.
I'M NOT GOING TO DO THAT, SO THAT'S WHERE I STAND ON THAT.
>> WE CAN JUST CHANGE THE WORD TO MAY INSTEAD OF SHOULD.
THE MEMBER MAY CLARIFY THAT HE OR SHE IS RESPONDING AS AN INDIVIDUAL AND NOT FOR THE BOARD AND BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
MAY IS FINE AND JUST TO REITERATE, WE DIDN'T CHANGE ANYTHING.
THE WILL OF THE BOARD, MAY IS FINE.
BUT I DO LIKE MR. SEIBEL'S NOTE ON JUST PUTTING THAT ON THE TOP OF THAT PAGE, AND I SAW YOURS, AND I HAVEN'T DONE THAT, BUT THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.
>> ANY OTHER INPUT ON PAGE 22? MOVING ON PAGE 23.
>> A COUPLE OF THINGS. I REALLY LIKE IT, BUT I HAVE SOME SUGGESTIONS AND SOME COMMENTS.
UPDATED HOW TO RESPOND TO COMMUNITY.
COMPLAINT. IS THE COMPLAINT CREDIBLE? IS THE REQUEST CREDIBLE? WHAT MAY BE CREDIBLE TO ME, MAY NOT BE CREDIBLE TO SOMEBODY ELSE.
WE TYPICALLY FLUSH OUT SOME THINGS.
EVEN TO START WITH THAT. IF PEOPLE ARE COMING TO ME, THE FIRST THING I'M ASKING IS, HAVE YOU GONE AND SPOKEN TO YOUR PRINCIPAL?
[03:45:02]
HAVE YOU GONE AND SPOKEN TO YOUR, WHOEVER? THAT'S NOT ON THIS FLOW CHART.SO THAT'S ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AT THE VERY TOP IS IF SOMEBODY'S CONTACTED US, OUR FIRST RESPONSE IS, WELL, WHO HAVE YOU CONTACTED, AND WHO HAVE YOU REACHED OUT TO DEAL WITH THIS ISSUE? NOT US PUSHING THINGS OFF ALREADY TO THE SUPERINTENDENT'S OFFICE.
I'M NOT REALLY EXACTLY SURE WHO DID THE FLOW CHART, BUT I WOULD THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE'D WANT TO PUT AT THE TOP.
THAT'S HOW YOU FLUSH OUT A LOT OF THESE THINGS IS MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE HAVE GONE THROUGH THE PROPER CHAIN OF COMMAND.
SAME THING WITH THE GRIEVANCE.
IF WE'RE FLUSHING OUT COMPLAINTS AND GETTING ALL THE INFORMATION, HOW DO WE NOT PUT OURSELVES IN A SITUATION WHERE WE'RE NOW GOING TO HAVE TO EXCUSE OURSELF FROM A GRIEVANCE PROCESS? I APPRECIATE THE FLOW CHART.
I JUST DON'T THINK IT FOLLOWS EXACTLY THE WAY THAT WE SHOULD BE FOLLOWING A FLOW CHART IF WHEN WE GET COMPLAINTS.
>> WHAT WE CAN DO IS DELETE THE FIRST TWO COLUMNS OF THAT FLOW CHART AND JUST LEAVE THE LAST PIECE THAT SAYS, REQUEST FOR ASSISTANCE.
IS THE REQUEST CREDIBLE, YES OR NO? USE YOUR BEST JUDGMENT? CAN BOARD MEMBER PROVIDE ASSISTANCE? YES, YOU PROVIDE THE ASSISTANCE BY SAYING, GO TO THE CALENDAR ON THE WEBSITE OR WHATEVER.
THE OTHER SIDE WILL SAY, BOARD MEMBER REFERS TO THE CHAIN OF COMMAND, WHICH WE DO.
WE TEACH THEM HOW TO NAVIGATE THAT SYSTEM.
THEN DOES REQUEST INDICATE A SYSTEM'S ISSUE, YES OR NO? IF IT DOES, SEND IT TO THE SUPERINTENDENT.
THAT IS OUR PRACTICE OF WHAT WE DO.
WE CAN DELETE THAT FIRST ONE THAT SAYS, COMPLAINT, JUST DELETE IT ALL, IF YOU WANT, AND THEN WE CAN DELETE THE WHOLE SECTION.
I'M SAYING, JUST LEAVE THAT LAST COLUMN IN REQUEST FOR ASSISTANCE, AND THAT TAKES CARE OF THAT.
>> TEAM, I WANT TO TURN ON THIS ONE, AND OBVIOUSLY, WE ALL EITHER GET EMAILS, TEXT MESSAGES, SOMETIMES WE'RE ALL COPIED IN GROUP ITEMS. MY PERSONAL FLOW CHART IS, IS THIS A BOARD-RESPONSIBLE MATTER? IS IT SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE COMING TO THE BOARD IN THE FIRST PLACE? IF NOT, THAT I DO REFER TO THE CHAIN OF COMMAND.
BECAUSE EVEN COMPLAINTS, YES, I WANT TO HEAR PEOPLE OUT, AND I'M A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY LIKE ANYBODY ELSE.
BUT ULTIMATELY, I HAD MAYBE FEW AND FAR BETWEEN, BUT HEY, DR. WRIGHT, THIS CAME TO ME, JUST FYI FORWARD TO SOMEBODY IS APPROPRIATE BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING THAT EITHER HE OR SOMEBODY IN ADMINISTRATION NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSING.
WHERE DOES IT FALL IN THE PURVIEW OF OUR ROLE AS A BOARD MEMBER? DOES IT HAVE TO DO WITH AN ACHIEVEMENT? DOES IT HAVE TO DO WITH THE TAX RATE.
SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. MS. OROSCO.
>> PART OF THE FRAMEWORK FOR SCHOOL BOARD DEVELOPMENT SAYS THAT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE CONNECTED TO OUR COMMUNITY, SO WE DO FIELD ALL KINDS OF QUESTIONS AND COMPLAINTS AND CONCERNS.
I REALLY DO THINK THAT LAST COLUMN WILL HANDLE THAT BECAUSE IT'S LIKE WHEN THEY COME TO US AND ASK US, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO SOLVE THAT PROBLEM, WE'RE REFERRING THEM TO THAT CHAIN OF COMMAND.
I CANNOT FIRE THE FOOTBALL COACH.
THAT IS SOMETHING YOU NEED TO AND WE TELL THEM WHERE AND WHERE TO GO TO.
BECAUSE PART OF OUR JOB AS BOARD MEMBERS IS TO HELP AND EDUCATE OUR COMMUNITY ON HOW TO NAVIGATE THAT SYSTEM.
I THINK THAT SECTION, IF WE DELETE THE OTHER STUFF.
I THINK IT ENCOMPASSES WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, MR. VELA, AND WHAT MS. RUNKLE IS SAYING.
I THINK THAT TAKES CARE OF IT ALL.
WE COULD WORDSMITH THE LANGUAGE IF WE WANT, BUT I THINK THAT CAPTURES THE SPIRIT OF OUR ROLE.
>> THANK YOU. SEE MORE ON PAGE 24, NO CHANGES ON THAT PAGE. TWENTY FOUR.
IT WILL TRUNCATE TO ANOTHER PAGE, JUST A MUCH OF BLANK SPACE THERE, MR. SEVERANCE. PAGE 25.
GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THAT.
PAGE 26, OBVIOUSLY, UPDATED PICTURES.
[03:50:07]
TEAM, THAT IS ALL THE DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM.AGAIN, THANK YOU TO OUR SUBCOMMITTEE FOR SOME DILIGENT WORK, AND THANK YOU FOR EVERYBODY'S INPUT TONIGHT.
I KNOW THAT WE WILL MORE THAN LIKELY FINISH THIS DISCUSSION ON MONDAY.
OR TAKE ACTION OR ACT AS APPROPRIATE. THANK YOU.
>> I KNOW WE'RE NOT DOING INFORMATIONAL EVERYBODY'S GONE, BUT CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION BEFORE WE ADJOURN TO RHETORICAL TO BARBARA, DR. WRIGHT?
>> LET ME GET TO THE NEXT ITEM, TEAM. THE NEXT ITEM.
YES, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO INFORMATION ITEMS TONIGHT,
[N. INFORMATION ITEMS]
WE DID DISMISS CABINET AND STAFF.SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. WE CAN ASK QUESTIONS.
[P. RECAP OF QUESTIONS]
TEAM, ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY INFORMATION ITEMS? MR. SEVERANCE.>> THANK YOU. I'M JUST GOING TO ASK.
I'M GOING TO TALK TO BARBARA, BUT EVERYONE CAN HEAR ME SAY IT.
FOR NEXT MONTH, I KNOW WE HAVE THIS TWO MEETING THAT WE DID LATE AND THEN MONDAY.
CAN WE LOOK AT CHANGING FEBRUARY'S INSTEAD OF THURSDAY THE 20TH TO THE 18TH? WE MOVE IT TO TUESDAY.
I KNOW WE DID THIS A LONG TIME AGO, TEAM. I UNDERSTAND THAT.
>> MR. SEVERANCE, ACTUALLY THAT'S NOT A INFORMATION ITEM.
BUT YEAH, WE'LL GET TO THAT IN A MINUTE.
[OVERLAPPING] ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON INFORMATION ITEMS FROM THE AGENDA? ANY REQUEST FOR INFORMATION?
[O. REQUESTS FOR INFORMATION FROM THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES]
YES, SIR. THANK YOU.>> I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST TO SEE IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO MOVE OUR FEBRUARY 20TH BOARD MEETING, THAT WORKSHOP MEETING TO FEBRUARY 18TH, IF EVERYONE SCHEDULE IT WORKS FOR EVERYBODY? BECAUSE THIS CADENCE OF THIS MEETING AND TIGHT, IT FEELS TOUGH. THANK YOU.
>> IT'S RIGHT AFTER A HOLIDAY.
>> TEAM, JUST TO CHECK BECAUSE I HAVE SOME THOUGHTS ON THAT AS WELL.
THE THOUGHT IS, AND I KNOW WHEN WE DISCUSSED THE CALENDAR, WE WANTED TO ALLOW OUR STAFF TO HAVE TIME TO GET THEIR FEET UNDERNEATH THEM, IF YOU WILL, FROM A HOLIDAY.
HOWEVER, THIS IS THE WORKSHOP MEETING, AND SO THE WORKSHOP MAY NOT BE THE ONE THAT NEEDS TO BE MOVED IT MAY BE THE SECOND THE BUSINESS MEETING THAT WE WOULD CONSIDER.
MR. SEVERANCE, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
ANY OTHER REQUESTS? YES, MA'AM. MS. OROSCO.
>> I AM REQUESTING THAT YOU TAKE A SURVEY OF THE BOARD TO SEE IF THEY ARE AVAILABLE ON THAT DATE, BECAUSE WE HAVE ADOPTED THAT CALENDAR MONTHS IN ADVANCE, AND WE HAVE PLANNED OUR SCHEDULES.
>> YEAH, WE WILL DO THAT. I'LL SEND YOU AN EMAIL MS. GLORIA, SO WE CAN DO THAT.
TEAM, WE HAVE LOTS OF QUESTIONS.
I KNOW MS. PETREA, INCLUDING ALL OF OUR EDITS AND SUGGESTIONS, SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO TO THAT.
[Q. UPCOMING BOARD MEETINGS]
OUR NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED BOARD MEETING IS MONDAY, JANUARY 27, 2025 AT 5:30 PM.RIGHT HERE AT THE HAYS CISD MEREDITH KELLER BOARD ROOM.
UNLESS THERE IS DISSENT, WE ARE ADJOURNED AT 10:44 PM. HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.