>> GOOD EVENING. WELCOME TO THE WORKSHOP MEETING OF THE HAYS CISD BOARD OF TRUSTEES.
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WE APPRECIATE ALL FOR BEING HERE AND WELCOME EVERYONE LISTENING ONLINE.TODAY IS MONDAY, OCTOBER 20TH, 2025 AND THE TIME IS 5:30 PM.
A QUORUM HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED IN ALL MEMBERS OF THE BOARD ARE PRESENT.
JUST EVERYONE KNOW, THIS IS A NEW FORMAT FOR US WITH SB 12 THAT CAME OUT.
WE ARE NOW MOVING STUFF AROUND.
TODAY, WE'RE GOING TO LEAD OFF WITH OUR PLEDGE FOR MR. SEIBEL. OUR MISSION STATEMENT WILL BE READ BY MR. FLORES.
[C. MISSION STATEMENT]
>> HAYS CISD MAKES IT 100% POSSIBLE.
TONIGHT, OUR SOCIAL CONTRACT WILL READ BY MISS VANESSA PETRI.
[D. SOCIAL CONTRACT]
>> YES. THE BOARD WILL TRUST POSITIVE AND NOBLE INTENT, ENGAGE WITH RESPECT, PROFESSIONALISM, AND PURPOSE, ACT WITH ACCOUNTABILITY, AND A GROWTH MINDSET, MODEL UNITY AS DISTRICT AMBASSADORS.
>> THANK YOU. NOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE INTO ITEM H, ITEM E, WHICH ARE MOVING THAT TO THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING NOW.
[E. PUBLIC FORUM ]
I'M PUBLIC PORTION PORT OF THE MEETING.WE HAVE THREE GREEN SHEETS TONIGHT.
I'M GOING TO READ THIS FOR EVERYONE THAT'S GOING TO BE SPEAKING TONIGHT.
DURING THE PUBLIC FORUM PORTION OF THIS MEETING, WE INVITE YOU AND WELCOME MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO SHARE THEIR THOUGHTS, CONCERNS, OR COMMENTS TO THE BOARD.
THIS IS AN IMPORTANT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE BOARD TO LISTEN AND UNDERSTAND THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE COMMUNITY.
HOWEVER, PLEASE NOTE THAT BOARD MEMBERS ARE UNABLE TO RESPOND DIRECTLY TO COMMENTS MADE DURING THE PUBLIC FORUM.
ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO ADDRESS THE BOARD IN PUBLIC MUST HAVE COMPLETED THE GREEN SHEET PRIOR TO THE MEETING.
PRIOR TO US BEFORE THE START OF THE MEETING.
PUBLIC PARTICIPATION IN BOARD MEETINGS IS LIMITED TO THE PUBLIC FORUM PORTION OF THE MEETING AS PROVIDED IN BOARD POLICY BED LOCAL.
PLEASE BE AWARE THAT THE AUDIO AND VIDEO OF PUBLIC FORUM IS RECORDED AS PART OF THE RECORDING OF THE ENTIRE MEETING AND IS PUBLISHED ON THE DISTRICT'S WEBSITE WITHOUT ALTERCATION.
A PERSON WHO CHOOSES TO SPEAK IN PUBLIC FORUM IS CONSENT TO THE ONLINE PUBLICATION OF THEIR COMMENTS.
WE DO HAVE THREE SPEAKERS TONIGHT.
THE THREE ITEMS HERE ARE NOT SCHEDULED AGENDA ITEMS, SO WE'LL BE GIVING YOU EACH ONE OF THEM THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
THE FIRST ONE WILL BE MR. LOWE AND THEN WE COME TO THE PODIUM, THERE'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE LOOKS LIKE A LITTLE HEAD, LITTLE PERSON TO PUSH IT TO TURN GREEN AND MIKE GREEN.
>> I WANT TO START WITH ONE QUESTION.
WHY DID EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU DO NOTHING WHEN I MADE IT CLEAR WHAT THIS DISTRICT AND ITS LEADERSHIP DID TO MY SON? YOU WERE STILL ALLOWING THIS COUNSELOR TO WORK WITH ELEMENTARY SCHOOL CHILDREN.
YOUNG, TRUSTING, IMPRESSIONABLE AND YOU'RE LETTING A WOMAN WHO FILED AN ASSAULT CHARGE AGAINST AN INNOCENT 11-YEAR-OLD BOY TO KEEP COUNSELING YOUNG KIDS.
THAT SITUATION WE ALL WATCHED HAPPENED BECAUSE OF HER OWN CARELESSNESS.
I REACHED OUT AGAIN AND AGAIN, LOOKING FOR ONE ADULT IN THIS DISTRICT WHO CARED MORE ABOUT PROTECTING A CHILD THAN PROTECTING A STAFF MEMBER WHO LIED.
INSTEAD, EVERY SINGLE DOOR I KNOCKED ON WAS CLOSED IN THE NAME OF POLICY AND PROCEDURE.
THIS IS NOT ABOUT ME, THIS IS ABOUT MY SON.
THE ANXIETY, THE CONFUSION, THE LOSS OF TRUST HE CARRIES BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU ALLOWED AND CONTINUE TO ALLOW.
IT CAUSED A MASSIVE DIVIDE BETWEEN HIS PARENTS.
IT HAS DAMAGED HIS CONFIDENCE.
IT HAS BROKEN HIS BELIEF THAT ADULTS DO THE RIGHT THING AND AND THAT ACCOUNTABILITY IS FAIR.
THIS IS AN 11-YEAR-OLD KID THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
EVERY PART OF THIS WAS CAUSED BY DISTRICT PERSONNEL AND WHEN YOU HAD A CHANCE TO MAKE IT RIGHT, YOU DIDN'T.
YOU COVERED IT UP, YOU IGNORED HIS CIVIL RIGHTS, YOU IGNORED PARENTAL RIGHTS, YOU IGNORED THE TRUTH.
HOW CAN YOU JUSTIFY STILL PROTECTING THIS COUNSEL OR HAS SHOWN SHE IS UNFIT TO WORK WITH CHILDREN? YOU LET HER STAY IN A POSITION WHILE THE CHILD SHE TRAUMATIZED TRIES TO REBUILD TRUST IN A SYSTEM THAT FAILED HIM.
HOW DO YOU THINK MY SON FEELS SAFE? DO YOU THINK MY SON FEELS SAFE IN THIS DISTRICT EVERY DAY? BEING IN THIS DISTRICT EVERY SINGLE DAY, DO YOU THINK HE TRUST THE ADULTS WHO STOOD BY AND DID NOTHING? THIS DISTRICT IS MEANT TO SERVE CHILDREN.
WILL HAYS MAKE THAT POSSIBLE IN 2025? THIS WAS AN 11-YEAR-OLD BOY FORCED TO GO THROUGH THAT, AN INNOCENT KID.
YOU ALL RECEIVED THE EMAILS, YOU ALL SAW THE TRUTH.
DON'T SIT HERE TONIGHT AND PRETEND LIKE YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
>> THANK YOU. NEXT STEP WILL BE ALICIA HILL.
THE MIKE SHOULD ALREADY BE ON.
YOU WILL ALSO HAVE THREE MINUTES.
>> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS ALICIA HILL.
I AM THE HAYS COUNTY CHAIR FOR MOMS FOR LIBERTY.
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MOMS FOR LIBERTY WAS FORMED DURING THE PANDEMIC WHEN PARENTS SHOWED UP TO SCHOOL BOARD MEETINGS AND WERE MET WITH RESISTANCE EVEN LABELED DOMESTIC TERRORISTS.THAT WAS REVERSED, BUT IT SPARKED A MOVEMENT TO DEFEND TO HELP PARENTS DEFEND THEIR RIGHTS AND REMIND SCHOOL BOARDS THAT WE ARE THE PARENTS, AND WE ARE ALSO THE FUNDING SOURCE OF EDUCATION.
I'M HERE TONIGHT AS A PARENT WHO CARES ABOUT THE INTEGRITY OF OUR SCHOOLS, SAFETY OF STUDENTS AND PARENTS RIGHTS.
IN MAY, RIGHT HERE IN KYLE, AN ELEMENTARY STUDENT WAS CHARGED WITH ASSAULT AND MANDATED TO COMPLETE AN IMPACT CENTER PROGRAM BEFORE ANY DUE PROCESS COULD TAKE PLACE.
THAT VIOLATES THE CORE PRINCIPLES THAT IN AMERICA, WE ARE INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY.
IT WASN'T UNTIL FOX 7 NEWS EXPOSED THE TRUTH THAT THE DA DROPPED THE CHARGES, CHARGES THAT SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN FILED.
YET SUPERINTENDENT RIGHT, ONE OF THE HIGHEST PAID SUPERINTENDENTS IN TEXAS, EARNING CLOSE TO $400,000 WITH HIS CONTRACT JUST EXTENDED WITHOUT ANY VOTE FROM PARENTS TO 2030 SAYING THAT THE DISTRICT DID NOTHING WRONG.
PARENTS AND TAXPAYERS EXPECT ACCOUNTABILITY AT THAT LEVEL AND THIS IS NOT AN ISOLATED INCIDENT.
IN SAN MARCOS, A FEDERAL LAWSUIT WAS FILED AFTER ANOTHER STUDENT WAS PUNISHED BEFORE DUE PROCESS.
AUTHORITY FIGURES PROTECTING SYSTEMS, NOT CHILDREN AND LET ME BE CLEAR.
WE FULLY SUPPORT DISCIPLINE, BUT THE PUNISHMENT MUST FIT THE CRIME.
ONE SIZE FITS ALL APPROACH IS NOT JUSTICE.
TONIGHT, I'M REQUESTING THAT YOU CLEAR THE STUDENTS RECORD OF THIS INCIDENT, TERMINATE THE STAFF WHO FILED FALSE CHARGES AND WITHHELD EVIDENCE.
ADULT SAFEGUARDS, REQUIRING EVIDENCE BE REVIEWED WITH PARENTS.
IF YOU STAND BY THAT NOTHING WAS DONE WRONG, YOU SET A VERY DANGEROUS PRECEDENT FOR EVERY FAMILY IN THIS DISTRICT AND FOR THE RECORD, MS. ROSCO AND MR. FLORES, YOUR NO VOTE ON SENATE BILL 12 HAS BEEN DULY NOTED. THANK YOU.
THE MIKE IS ALREADY ON AND YOU WILL ALSO HAVE THREE MINUTES.
>> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS ASHLEY PAYNE AND I SERVE AS THE HAYS COUNTY CO CHAIR FOR MOMS FOR LIBERTY.
OUR ORGANIZATION WAS BORN OUT OF ONE SIMPLE TRUTH, PARENTS WILL NOT BE SILENCED.
DURING THE PANDEMIC, PARENTS SHOWED UP AT SCHOOL BOARD MEETINGS ASKING TO BE HEARD AND WERE DISMISSED OR EVEN LABELED AS DOMESTIC TERRORISTS.
THAT MOMENT REMINDED US THAT, IF WE DON'T FIGHT FOR OUR CHILDREN, NO ONE ELSE WILL.
WE'RE HERE TO REMIND EVERY DISTRICT THAT PARENTS HAVE RIGHTS, THAT SCHOOL SERVE FAMILIES AND THAT WE, THE TAXPAYERS FUND THE SYSTEM.
WE EXPECT FAIRNESS, TRANSPARENCY, AND ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THOSE WHO LEAD IT.
LET'S BE CLEAR. THIS SCHOOL BOARD IS ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE.
YOU ARE ACCOUNTABLE TO PARENTS, TO VOTERS, AND TO THE CHILDREN OF THIS COMMUNITY.
YOU DO NOT ANSWER TO BUREAUCRATS, YOU ANSWER TO US.
I'M NOT SPEAKING TONIGHT AS A POLITICIAN, I'M SPEAKING AS A MOM WHO CARES DEEPLY ABOUT TRUTH, SAFETY, JUSTICE, IN OUR SCHOOLS.
AT YOUR AUGUST 15TH MEETING, A TRUSTEE SAID, HOW CAN OUR KIDS LEARN IF THEY DON'T FEEL SAFE? I AGREE COMPLETELY, BUT HOW CAN THEY FEEL SAFE WHEN THOSE MEANT TO PROTECT THEM CAN ACCUSE THEM OF CRIMES THAT NEVER HAPPENED? THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED IN THIS DISTRICT.
A STUDENT WAS CHARGED WITH ASSAULT EVEN THOUGH NO ASSAULT EVER OCCURRED.
VIDEO EVIDENCE PROVED THE CHILD INNOCENCE, YET IT WAS WITHHELD.
THE STUDENT WAS PUNISHED AND SENT TO A DISCIPLINARY PROGRAM BEFORE ANY DUE PROCESS TOOK PLACE.
THAT'S NOT SAFETY, THAT'S BETRAYAL OF TRUST.
IT TOOK FOX 7 NEWS INVESTIGATION FOR THE TRUTH TO COME OUT AND THE CHARGES TO BE DROPPED.
YET THIS DISTRICT STILL CLAIMS WE DID NOTHING WRONG.
IF THAT DOESN'T ALARM YOU, IT SHOULD, BECAUSE IF IT COULD HAPPEN TO ONE FAMILY, IT CAN HAPPEN TO YOURS.
TONIGHT, I'M ASKING THE BOARD TO ACT, CLEAR THE STUDENTS RECORD COMPLETELY.
HOLD ACCOUNTABLE ANYONE WHO LIED OR HID EVIDENCE.
REQUIRE THAT PARENTS SEE ALL EVIDENCE BEFORE ANY DISCIPLINARY ACTIONS.
WHEN YOU PROTECT SYSTEMS OVER STUDENTS, YOU LOSE THE TRUST OF THE PEOPLE YOU SERVE.
YOU WERE ELECTED TO LEAD, NOW LEAD WITH INTEGRITY.
PROTECT OUR KIDS, NOT THE SYSTEM. THANK YOU.
NOW WE'RE MOVING INTO OUR PUBLIC HEARING.
[F. PUBLIC HEARING]
WE'RE GOING TO GO TO SORRY, PAGE 7.THIS IS GOING TO BE THE PUBLIC HEARING OF THE HAYSCISD 2024 2025 FINANCIAL INTEGRITY RATING SYSTEM OF TEXAS AND THE FINANCIAL EFFICIENCY AUDIT.
WE'RE GOING TO HEAR TWO PRESENTATIONS TONIGHT.
WE'RE GOING TO GET OUR EFFICIENCY AUDIT AND OUR FIRST REPORT.
BOTH BE DONE IN THIS MEETING AND THE NEXT MEETING DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING,
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GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR FOLKS TO VISIT ON IT, AND THEN WE'LL VOTE IT NEXT WEEK.>> GOOD EVENING, PRESIDENT SEVERANCE, BOARD OF TRUSTEES, DR. WRIGHT.
WE ARE HERE THIS EVENING TO PROVIDE OUR SCHOOLS FIRST PUBLIC HEARING.
FIRST STANDS FOR FINANCIAL INTEGRITY RATING SYSTEM OF TEXAS.
THIS IS DEVELOPED BY TEXAS EDUCATION AGENCY OVER 20 YEARS AGO TO RATE THE FINANCIAL SYSTEMS OF SCHOOL DISTRICTS.
WE ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE A REPORT EVERY YEAR AND HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING, POST THAT ON THE WEBSITE.
THIS DATA THAT IS BEING USED IS BASED ON THE FISCAL YEAR ENDED JUNE 30TH, 2024.
RIGHT NOW WE ARE ALMOST DONE WITH THE FISCAL AUDIT FOR 25, BUT THAT DATA IS NOT READILY AVAILABLE TO HAVE THE RATING PROVIDED BY TEA.
THE DISTRICT HAS A PASS TO SCORE, A B ABOVE STANDARD, TABLE OF CONTENTS OVER THERE ON THE RIGHT.
FIRST, WE'RE GOING TO START WITH THE STATE RATINGS.
BASED ON 23/24, THERE WAS 1,018 AND THESE ARE PUBLIC SCHOOL DISTRICTS.
THE CHARTER SCHOOLS HAVE A SEPARATE RATING.
>> MS. OMERS, I'M SORRY, THERE IS A PRESENTATION IN YOUR DIAS FOLDERS.
LET'S BE THE THIRD ONE AND THERE IT'S THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING.
I'M SORRY, I SHOULD HAVE MENTIONED THAT YOU FOLLOW ALONG.
>> THANK YOU. WHAT PAGE IS THAT ON, SIR?
>> VERY GOOD. THANK YOU, SO OF THE 1,018 SCHOOL DISTRICTS, 20 FAILED AND ALMOST 1,000 PASS, 998.
WHERE YOU SEE THE HIGHLIGHTED SECTIONS, THAT'S WHERE HAYS CISD FELL WITHIN THOSE RATINGS.
ON THE NEXT SECTION, IT IS BROKEN DOWN INTO AN A, B, C AND F. WE DID FALL INTO THE B ABOVE STANDARD ACHIEVEMENT WITH 86 OTHER DISTRICTS, SO 87 DISTRICTS.
THERE WAS A 98% PASSING RATES FROM SCHOOL DISTRICTS WHICH IS TO BE EXPECTED.
FINANCES IN SCHOOL DISTRICTS IS VERY BIG BUSINESS AND WE DEFINITELY NEED TO HAVE COMPETENT PEOPLE TAKING CARE OF THE TAXPAYER'S FINANCES.
MORE DETAILS ON THE STATE RATINGS AND WHERE WE LANDED.
THERE'S 21 INDICATORS AND THIS IS WHERE WE LANDED ON INDICATOR 6, 07, 9, AND 12.
YOU COULD GO IN AND LOOK AT THE DETAILS OF ALL OF THOSE, BUT THE MAIN GIST OF IT ALL IS THAT WE DID GET THE 80, BUT IT ALL STEMS FROM FINANCIAL CASH AND FUND BALANCE AND SO WE'LL SEE THAT IN A MOMENT.
I'VE HIGHLIGHTED THE FOUR THAT WE HAD LOWER SCORES ON.
ALL OF THOSE, THE DETAIL OF IT IS ALL ABOUT CASH, INVESTMENTS, FUND BALANCE, ALL OF THEM.
THIS IS ALL AVAILABLE ONLINE. YOU CAN GO IN.
YOU CAN CLICK THOSE LINKS AND YOU CAN SEE THE DETAILS OF OUR DISTRICT AND ANY DISTRICT.
HERE IS THE RATING FOR THE SCHOOLS FIRST OVER THE YEARS, THE LAST 21 YEARS SINCE IT STARTED IN 2002, 2003, AND SO FOR ALL OF THOSE YEARS, WE HAD SUPERIOR.
EXCEPT FOR THE ONE YEAR WHEN THEY CHANGED THE STRUCTURE A LITTLE BIT EVERY YEAR, BUT RIGHT THERE IN THE MIDDLE,
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THEY CHANGED IT DRASTICALLY, AND IT WAS ONLY A PASS OR FAIL AND SO WE PASSED.THIS YEAR, BRINGING US DOWN TO A LETTER RATING OF B IS THE EXPLANATIONS ARE THERE.
DAYS CASH ON HAND WAS NOT SUFFICIENT.
REVENUES DID NOT EXCEED EXPENDITURES OR CASH ON HAND, DEBT REQUIREMENTS.
SUFFICIENT TO PROPERTY VALUE AND THAT'S A CHALLENGE IN GROWING DISTRICTS CERTAINLY.
FUND BALANCE DECREASED RAPIDLY.
WE WERE AWARE THAT THIS WAS GOING TO BE THE CASE, PLANNING SPENDING ACCORDINGLY WITH INFLATION, BUT NOT BEING ABLE TO INCREASE OUR REVENUES.
>> THERE ARE SOME ADDITIONAL REQUIRED DISCLOSURES.
THE SUPERINTENDENT'S CONTRACT, THOSE ARE POSTED ON THE WEBSITE, REIMBURSEMENT, AND PAYMENTS FOR THE SUPERINTENDENT AND THE BOARD, TOTALED LESS THAN $19,000.
THOSE WERE ALL FOR TRAVEL FOR PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT.
NO GIFTS GREATER THAN $250 RECEIVED BY EXECUTIVE OFFICERS OR BOARD MEMBERS, RELATIVES.
BUSINESS TRANSACTIONS BETWEEN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND BOARD MEMBERS.
THE DETAILS OF THE EXPENDITURES, THERE YOU CAN SEE, IT'S LESS THAN 19,000 FOR EVERYBODY.
EVERYBODY IS SITTING UP THERE AT THE DICE.
OUTSIDE COMPENSATION FOR THE SUPERINTENDENT, NONE.
THE DETAILS OF THE GIFTS, IF THERE WERE GIFTS, YOU SEE ALL OR NONE? THAT IS OUR SCHOOL'S FIRST PUBLIC HEARING.
>> THANK YOU, TEAM. I WANT TO OPEN UP TO QUESTIONS ON THIS BEFORE WE GET TO THE NEXT REPORT, TO MY RIGHT.
>> YES. THANK YOU, MS. OMERS FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.
WE KNEW WE WOULD BE IN THIS POSITION LAST YEAR WHEN MR. RAU GAVE THIS REPORT.
ANYWAYS, AND SO, THIS IS NOTHING REALLY THAT SURPRISING.
BEING DOWN TO 180 WAS A LITTLE BIT SURPRISING.
I FORGOT SOME OF THE OTHER METRICS THAT WE WOULD BE AUTOMATICALLY SCORED ON BASED ON OUR FUND BALANCE.
BUT WE'RE GOING TO BE IN THIS POSITION FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS.
>> YES. CORRECT. BASED ON OUR FINANCES LAST YEAR AND THEN THIS CURRENT YEAR.
ANY IDEA? HOW MANY YEARS DO YOU THINK IT WILL TAKE US TO BUILD BACK UP TO GET OUT OF THIS?
>> THEN ANY OTHER IMPACT TO OUR FINANCIAL CREDIT RATING OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE BASED ON THIS REPORT OVERALL?
>> NO, WE EXPERIENCED DURING THE SALE OF THE BONDS BACK IN AUGUST, THAT WE THOUGHT THAT IT MIGHT HAVE AN IMPACT, BUT AS IT TURNS OUT, THE POSITIVES OUTWEIGHED THE COUPLE OF NEGATIVES, AND THE COMMUNITY FELT STRONGLY ABOUT IT, AND OUR BONDS SOLD, AND IT MADE UP FOR THE DIFFERENCE IN THE INTEREST RATE, SO THAT WAS PLEASANT SURPRISE.
>> THANK YOU. WE WILL CONTINUE TO TAKE GOOD CARE OF THE MONEY OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
ALL THESE VERY CONCENTRATED ITEMS ALTOGETHER TAKES YOU TO THE HIGHEST YOU CAN HAVE OF A B. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> I HAVE ONE QUESTION, REAL QUICK.
OUR FUND BALANCE DIDN'T GO IN 2019 FROM 74 MILLION TO WHERE IT IS NOW OVERNIGHT.
IF THE TRE PASSES AND WE'RE ABLE TO FUND BACK IN THE FUND BALANCE, THAT SHOULD GIVE US, I MEAN, WE'RE SUPERIOR LAST YEAR.
IS IT A PASS FAIL? AS A PERCENTAGE, THAT IT'S A WIN LOSS, OR IF THAT DOES PASS, THEN THE INFUSION OR FUND BALANCE COULD IMPROVE THE SCORE FOR NEXT YEAR?
>> YES, IT COULD A LITTLE BIT, BUT IT'LL TAKE SEVERAL YEARS TO GET IT BACK UP TO THE SUPERIOR.
THERE'S ONE OF THE INDICATORS AUTOMATICALLY TOOK US TO A HIGHEST OF 89, AND SO IT AUTOMATICALLY TOOK 11 POINTS OFF OF THE HUNDRED.
THEN WE HAD THE COUPLE POINTS FOR EACH OF THE OTHERS.
BUT NO DOUBT, WE WILL BOUNCE IT BACK UP TO WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE, BECAUSE PEOPLE CAN UNDERSTAND AS AND BS AND FS, SO WE CERTAINLY WOULD LIKE TO GET TO THE A RATING AGAIN.
>> SAME. THE UTMOST EFFECT CONTINUES. THANK YOU.
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>> YOU HAVE ANOTHER PRESENTATION FOR US? SAME WE ALSO HAVE ANOTHER PRESENTATION IN YOUR FOLDER AS WELL?
>> IT WILL BE THE EFFICIENCY AUDIT.
>> YES. YOU DO HAVE A BOOKLET THAT OUR PARTNER KENT WILLIS BROUGHT, AND SO WE WILL TAKE IT AWAY.
>> WILL YOU INTRODUCE YOUR FRIENDS?
THIS IS A PRINCIPAL HE'S ON OUR REGULAR AUDIT TEAM AND ON THE EFFICIENCY AUDIT.
WE APPRECIATE THEM DIGGING IN AND GETTING THE EFFICIENCY AUDIT DONE SO QUICKLY, SO THAT OUR COMMUNITY CAN HAVE THE INFORMATION, AND IS A NORMAL PART OF THE TRE PROCESS.
THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT, SIR.
>> SHE'S BEING VERY CHARITABLE. I THINK SHE'S PROBABLY TIRED OF US AT THIS POINT.
WE HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND REQUESTS FOR AN AUDIT TO GET THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS, BUT DEBORA HAS BEEN GREAT.
>> THANK YOU FOR THE INTRO. MY NAME IS KENT WILLIS.
I'M A PARTNER AT PATILO BROWN AND HILL.
WE'RE BASED OUT OF WACO. YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN ME BEFORE AT BOARD MEETINGS, SO IT'S NICE TO SEE YOU AGAIN. NICE TO BE HERE.
I'M GOING TO PRESENT THIS EVENING THE RESULTS OF THE EFFICIENCY AUDIT.
I'VE GOT A POWERPOINT ON THE SCREEN. YOU CAN FOLLOW ALONG.
ALL OF THE THINGS ON THE POWERPOINT CAME FROM THIS REPORT, BUT I THOUGHT SHORTENING IT AND FOCUSING ON SOME HIGH-LEVEL THINGS WOULD BE MORE USEFUL TO YOU GUYS.
IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION YOU WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT, STOP ME AT ANY POINT.
TOTALLY FINE. I DON'T MIND AT ALL.
PRESENTING THE RESULTS OF THE 2024 EFFICIENCY AUDIT, AND I WANT TO POINT THAT OUT FROM THE GET-GO.
WE'RE LOOKING AT THE LAST AUDITED FINANCIAL STATEMENTS BECAUSE THE CURRENT YEAR AUDIT IS NOT COMPLETED.
THAT'S NORMAL FOR AN EFFICIENCY AUDIT.
YOU'LL ALSO SEE REFERENCE TO THE PRIOR FIRST RATING BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT ONE YEAR OLDER DATA FOR THIS EFFICIENCY AUDIT.
I'M HAVING TROUBLE HERE. HERE WE GO.
I'M GOING TO DO A COUPLE OF EXPLANATIONS.
I'LL EXPLAIN A COUPLE OF THINGS FOR THE PUBLIC THAT'S WATCHING.
YOU GUYS KNOW HOW THIS EFFICIENCY AUDIT WORKS, BUT I THOUGHT I WOULD EXPLAIN A FEW THINGS.
WHAT IS AN EFFICIENCY AUDIT? WE'LL START THERE. WHAT IS IT? WHAT IT ISN'T IS REALLY NOT A WHOLE LOT, A REAL AUDIT.
IT MIGHT BE SURPRISING TO THE PUBLIC AND YOU GUYS, BUT WHEN I COME AND PRESENT THE FINANCIAL STATEMENT AUDIT HERE A LITTLE WHILE, A FEW MONTHS, FOR ABOUT A MONTH.
I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A CONCLUSION AND A REPORT, AND AN OPINION.
IN MY OPINION, THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS ARE IN GOOD SHAPE.
THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT I'LL COME AND TELL YOU.
IT'S MORE OF YOU'VE HIRED AN EXTERNAL INDEPENDENT CPA TO COMPILE SOME INFORMATION FROM SOURCES AND PRESENT IT TO YOU UNBIASED, SO THAT THE PUBLIC CAN MAKE THEIR DECISION WHEN THEY'RE VOTING.
AT THE END OF THIS, IT MIGHT BE WEIRD, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO TELL YOU OR THE VOTERS WHAT THEY SHOULD DO.
THAT'S WHAT THEY HAVE TO DECIDE AT THE END OF THIS, WHAT THEY NEED TO DO WHEN IT COMES TO THE VOTE.
CALLING IT AN AUDIT FEELS WEIRD TO ME AS AN AUDITOR, BUT THAT'S WHAT THEY CALLED IT.
THE AUDIT, THE PURPOSE OF IT IS TO PRESENT INFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC TO MAKE A DECISION ON DO WE INCREASE A TAX RATE FOR HAYS CONSOLIDATED ISD.
LOOKS LIKE EARLY VOTING JUST STARTED TODAY.
THAT'S CRAZY, SO WE'RE OFF TO THE RACES WITH THAT.
HOW DOES THIS WORK? YOU GUYS, THE BOARD SELECTS AN AUDITOR.
IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE YOUR EXTERNAL AUDITOR.
THE DISTRICT PAYS FOR THE AUDIT.
I ALSO WANTED TO POINT OUT, HAYS CONSOLIDATED THIS YEAR WAS NOT ACTUALLY REQUIRED TO DO THE EFFICIENCY AUDIT BECAUSE YOU HAD AN EXEMPTION.
MOST DISTRICTS ARE REQUIRED TO DO THE AUDIT IF THEY'RE GOING TO GO FOR THE TAX RATE ELECTION.
YOU GUYS HAD AN EXEMPTION, BUT FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, DECIDED, LET'S GO AHEAD AND DO THE AUDIT.
LET'S BE TRANSPARENT AND PRESENT THE INFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC.
I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT AT THE GET-GO. CONTINUING ON.
QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE PROPOSAL THIS YEAR. I'M SORRY.
MORE DETAILS OF THE EFFICIENCY AUDIT.
WHAT DID WE DO? WHAT WERE THE PROCEDURES WE PERFORMED THIS YEAR? THAT'S REALLY FIVE STEPS.
THESE ARE DISTRICTS THAT ARE SIMILAR TO YOU.
THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY YOUR NEIGHBORS.
I'LL DIG INTO THAT HERE IN A MOMENT.
WE GO OUT, AND WE DIG OUT INFORMATION FROM TEA, FROM PRIOR AUDIT REPORTS, OTHER INFORMATION ABOUT HAYS, ABOUT THE PEER DISTRICTS, AND ABOUT STATE AVERAGES.
THEN WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT THAT INFORMATION.
WE COMPILE IT, AND THEN WE ISSUE A REPORT AT THE END TO EXPLAIN WHAT DID WE DO? WHAT PROCEDURES DID WE FOLLOW? THAT IS THE NATURE OF THIS REPORT.
IT'S REALLY GRAB INFORMATION ABOUT HAYS, COMPARE IT TO YOUR PEERS, COMPARE IT TO THE STATE.
PRESENT THAT INFORMATION TO THE VOTERS TO MAKE SOME DECISIONS.
IT ALL MAKES SENSE SO FAR. ANY QUESTIONS? I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN WELL-VERSED IN THIS.
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JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE PROPOSAL.WHAT IS HAYS CONSOLIDATED'S PROPOSAL FOR THE YEAR? IT IS TO INCREASE THE TAX RATE BY ABOUT $0.12, RIGHT AT $0.12.
WHICH SHOULD CAUSE AN INCREMENTAL TAX REVENUE INCREASE OF $26 MILLION FOR THE NEXT BUDGET.
THOUGH SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN REVENUES SHOULD THE TRE PASS.
A LITTLE MORE DETAILS ON WHAT HAPPENS IF THE PROPOSAL DOES PASS VERSUS IF IT DOES NOT PASS.
I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE ADVERTISED THIS INFORMATION, BUT JUST TO RUN THROUGH IT QUICKLY.
IF THE PROPOSAL DOES PASS, ASSUMING A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION PASSES AS WELL, WHICH I SUSPECT THAT WILL.
I IMAGINE THAT WILL DEFINITELY PASS.
IF THE TRE PASSES AND HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION PASSES, YOUR TAXPAYER'S AVERAGE BILL WILL ACTUALLY STILL DECREASE BY ABOUT $275.
WITH THE EXTRA DOLLARS, THE DISTRICT IS PROPOSING TO REBUILD FUND BALANCE.
MAINTAIN COMPETITIVE COMPENSATION, AVERT THE NEED TO DECREASE OR INCREASE CLASS SIZE, REALLY TO BUILD BACK AND TO CATCH UP FROM THE INFLATIONARY PRESSURES ON THE BUDGET OVER THE LAST FIVE OR SIX YEARS.
IF THE PROPOSAL FAILS, THEN TAXPAYERS WILL SEE A DECREASE IN THEIR AVERAGE BILL BY $538, SO A LITTLE BIT MORE SAVINGS, BUT IT WILL LEAD TO.
IT SOUNDS LIKE STAFFING CHANGES IN STAFFING, REDUCTION IN STAFFING, LARGER CLASS SIZES, DETRIMENTAL EFFECTS TO THE BUDGET.
THOSE ARE THE TWO OPTIONS IF IT PASSES OR FAILS.
ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS SO FAR? ALL GOOD.
LET'S DIG INTO THE PROCEDURES WE PERFORMED.
WE'LL LOOK AT YOUR PEER DISTRICTS.
WE'LL TALK THROUGH SOME OF THE IMPORTANT FINANCIAL INFORMATION AS I GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION.
EARLIER, I MENTIONED PEER DISTRICTS.
A LOT OF PEOPLE, WHEN THEY HEAR THAT, THEY THINK, MY NEIGHBORS.
THERE'S OTHER DISTRICTS NEARBY.
THAT'S NOT REALLY HOW THIS IS DESIGNED.
THEY WANT US TO USE WHAT'S CALLED THE TEXAS SMART SCHOOLS PROGRAM.
I BELIEVE TEXAS A&M IS THE GROUP THAT PUTS THIS TOGETHER.
IT'S STUDIED, IT'S STATISTICAL.
WHAT IT DOES IS IT LOOKS AT THE COST-ADJUSTED SPENDING BASIS PER PUPIL, AS WELL AS ACADEMIC PROGRAMS, AND COMPARES DISTRICTS.
FINDS DISTRICTS THAT ARE VERY SIMILAR TO YOU BASED ON COST, ENROLLMENT, LABOR MARKET, OTHER STATISTICS.
THOUGH IT'S SCIENTIFIC, IT'S NOT JUST PICKING DISTRICTS THAT SOUND FAMILIAR OR SOUNDS SIMILAR.
BUT YOU'LL SEE THE DISTRICTS ON THE SCREEN HERE THAT WERE SELECTED.
THOSE ARE THE RED DOTS ON THIS LITTLE CHART HERE.
THERE WERE ABOUT 20 THAT HAD SPIT OUT, WHICH ARE ALL THE WHITE DOTS, BUT WE PICKED THE ONES THAT SEEMED TO BE THE BEST FIT IN THAT CATEGORY.
THOSE ARE THE DISTRICTS AS WE CONTINUE THROUGH THAT, YOU WILL SEE LABELED AS YOUR PEER DISTRICTS THROUGH THIS STUDY.
WE'RE GOING TO DIG OFF START OFF REALLY IN SOME ACCOUNTABILITY, BOTH ACADEMIC AND FINANCIAL, AND THEN WE'LL DRILL DOWN INTO ACTUAL REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES AND OTHER USEFUL INFORMATION PRODUCED BY THE AUDIT.
I WANT TO POINT OUT, THESE LITTLE CHARTS YOU SEE ARE COMING DIRECTLY FROM THE REPORT.
THE CONTENT OF THIS IS REALLY PRESCRIPTIVE.
THE CHARTS, THE DATA WE SELECTED.
IT'S ALL BASED ON WHAT TEA OR THE LEGISLATIVE BUDGET BOARD PUT TOGETHER WHEN THEY MADE THESE GUIDELINES.
EVERY EFFICIENCY AUDIT YOU PICK UP WILL LOOK EXACTLY THE SAME, SO YOU CAN PUT THEM SIDE BY SIDE AND COMPARE.
OUR GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE WE MATCH THE GUIDELINES AND PRESENT UNBIASED INFORMATION IN THE REPORT THIS EVENING.
THE FIRST THING WE'LL LOOK AT IS THE ACCOUNTABILITY RATING.
THIS IS THE PRIOR YEAR WHERE HAYS RECEIVED A SCORE OF 80.
YOU SEE THE MIDDLE SCORE OF 80 THERE.
YOUR PEER DISTRICTS GOT AN 85.
CLOSE THERE WITH THE B OF THE ACADEMIC ACCOUNTABILITY RATING.
I'VE GOT A CHART HERE SHOWING HOW THE DIFFERENT CAMPUSES FARED.
THERE'S NOT A PEER DISTRICT COMPARISON HERE, BUT JUST INFORMATIONAL, LOOKING AT HOW THE CAMPUSES PERFORMED.
THIS IS TO ME, FOR A SCHOOL DISTRICT, THIS IS THE OUTPUT.
WE HIRE PEOPLE, WE SPEND MONEY TO TRAIN AND TEACH STUDENTS.
THAT'S THE OUTPUT. HOW ARE WE DOING ON THAT? THIS IS THE GRADE. WE HAVE THE PRIOR YEAR FIRST RATING.
LOOKING BACK TWO YEARS NOW THAT YOU HAVE YOUR NEW B RATING AT 96, AS DEBORA JUST DISCUSSED, A RATING.
LET'S THROW INTO SOME DEMOGRAPHIC INFORMATION.
WHAT WE'VE GOT ON THE SCREEN HERE, WE'RE LOOKING AT SPECIAL POPULATIONS OF STUDENTS.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EDUCATING STUDENTS.
SOME GROUPS OF STUDENTS COST MORE TO EDUCATE, TO PUT IT SIMPLY. YOU GUYS KNOW THAT.
THE PUBLIC MAY NOT BE AWARE, BUT ECONOMICALLY DISADVANTAGED STUDENTS, SPECIAL EDUCATION.
YOU GOT TO HIRE EXPERTS, PROFESSIONALS TO TEACH THOSE KIDS, MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN ACHIEVE ACADEMICALLY.
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YOU SPEND MORE MONEY ON EQUIPMENT, TECHNOLOGY TO TEACH THESE KIDS.I THINK THAT'S WHY THIS IS IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT WHAT ARE FOR HAYS VERSUS YOUR PEERS VERSUS THE STATE.
HOW DO THOSE POPULATIONS OF STUDENTS THAT MAY COST MORE TO EDUCATE? HOW DO THEY LOOK AS A PERCENTAGE OF THE TOTAL STUDENT POPULATION? SO JUST LOOKING AT THE PERCENTAGE COLUMNS, HAYS, FOR ECONOMICALLY DISADVANTAGED, FOR ENGLISH LEARNERS.
REALLY ALL THE CATEGORIES, EXCEPT FOR CTE.
YOU'VE GOT A HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF THE POPULATION THAN YOUR PEERS.
LITTLE CLOSER ALIGNED IN SOME CASES FOR THE STATE, BUT DEFINITELY COMPARED TO YOUR PEERS, HIGHER ECONOMICALLY DISADVANTAGED, HIGHER ENGLISH LEARNERS, SPECIAL EDUCATION, AND BILINGUAL.
THEY GIVE SOME CONTEXT ON THE POPULATION OF THE STUDENTS AND SOME OF THE COSTS THAT MAY GO INTO EDUCATING THOSE KIDS.
>> SHIFTING GEARS A LITTLE BIT, STILL IN DEMOGRAPHICS, BUT LOOKING AT ENROLLMENT VERSUS ATTENDANCE.
THE PUBLIC MAY NOT BE AWARE SCHOOL DISTRICTS ARE FUNDED BASED ON ATTENDANCE, WHICH IS HOW MANY KIDS SHOW UP EVERY DAY, NOT BASED ON HOW MANY KIDS ENROLLED.
I THINK TEXAS IS IN THE MINORITY OF STATES THAT FUND THEIR SCHOOLS THAT WAY.
IT'S USEFUL TO LOOK AT ATTENDANCE RATES OF THE NUMBER OF KIDS THAT ENROLLED, HOW MANY SHOWED UP? HAS 92.8%, THE DISTRICTS, MORE, 94.3, STATE AVERAGE IN BETWEEN.
YOUR REVENUES FROM THE STATE ARE BASED ON ATTENDANCE.
THAT'S AN IMPORTANT CONCEPT FOR SCHOOL DISTRICTS, FOR SURE.
ENROLL THE NUMBERS, HEY, IT JUST KEEPS GOING UP AND UP.
YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN GROWING LIKE CRAZY FOR YEARS.
MORE KIDS MEANS MORE SPENDING.
IT COSTS MORE TO EDUCATE MORE KIDS.
WE'RE GOING TO SHIFT INTO SOME FINANCIAL PERFORMANCE TYPE ANALYSIS, BOTH REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES, REALLY.
THERE'S MORE DETAIL ON THE NEXT SLIDE, A LITTLE CHART, BUT I WANTED TO START WITH JUST SOME HIGHER LEVEL LOOK AT REVENUES, EXPENDITURES PER STUDENT, AND THEN INSTRUCTIONAL SPENDING AS A PERCENTAGE OF TOTAL.
LOOKS LIKE AT REVENUES. SCHOOL DISTRICTS HAVE REALLY THREE SOURCES OF REVENUES IN THE GENERAL FUND, THE OPERATING FUND.
THERE'S FEDERAL, STATE, AND LOCAL.
JUST TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC WHO'S WATCHING.
FEDERAL IS NOT REALLY A BIG NUMBER IN THE GENERAL FUND, BUT THE REST STATE AND LOCALS SPLIT ALMOST HALF AND HALF.
WHEN I SAY LOCAL, I'M TALKING ABOUT M&O TAXES.
AS WE SEE HERE IN THE FIRST SENTENCES, 45.8% OF THE GENERAL FUNDS REVENUE OR PROPERTY TAXES.
THAT IS PRETTY NORMAL FOR SCHOOL DISTRICTS TO BE ABOUT HALF AND HALF.
HOWEVER, THAT REVENUE PER STUDENT IS LOWER THAN YOUR PEER DISTRICTS AND THE STATE AVERAGE FOR HAYS, FOR YOUR TAX DOLLARS AND THE GENERAL FUND PER STUDENT, LOWER THAN THE COMPARISONS.
THE REST OF THOSE DOLLARS ARE STATE ALLOTMENT DOLLARS, OBVIOUSLY, THAT ARE MADE UP AND FUNDED BASED ON ATTENDANCE PRIMARILY.
MOVING TO EXPENDITURES, OPERATING EXPENDITURES FOR HAYS PER STUDENT OR $11,490.
THAT'S HOW MUCH IT COSTS TO EDUCATE ON AVERAGE A STUDENT FOR ONE YEAR.
THAT SPENDING FOR HAYS IS HIGHER THAN YOUR PEERS, LOWER THAN STATE AVERAGE.
THE NEXT SECTION HERE, LOOKING AT INSTRUCTIONAL SPENDING AS A PERCENTAGE OF TOTAL SPENDING, 57.2% FOR HAYS. THAT'S MORE.
YOU'RE SPENDING MORE ON INSTRUCTIONAL PER STUDENT THAN YOUR PEERS AND LESS IN THE STATE.
I THINK THIS NEXT SLIDE HERE MIGHT BE USEFUL JUST TO STEP BACK AND LOOK AT WHAT I JUST TALKED ABOUT, BUT THIS IS THE CHART THAT WAS USED TO CREATE THAT EXPLANATION PREVIOUSLY.
TOTAL REVENUE PER STUDENT, LESS AND THEN BOTH COLOR CATEGORIES.
THEN WE GOT EXPENDITURES HERE BY PER STUDENT PER YEAR, A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN YOUR PEERS, A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN THE STATE AVERAGE.
LET'S ROLL DOWN FURTHER INTO SOME MORE EXPENDITURE CATEGORIES.
WE'RE LOOKING AT PAYROLL. THE PUBLIC MAY NOT BE AWARE.
PAYROLL IS THE LARGEST FUNCTION, LARGEST COST CENTER FOR OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT TO HIRE GREAT PEOPLE TO EDUCATE YOUR STUDENTS.
85.5% OF EXPENDITURES AT HAYS ARE PAYROLL IN THE OPERATING FUND.
THAT'S PRETTY NORMAL TO BE LARGE LIKE THAT.
AT HAYS, IN PARTICULAR, THAT EXCEEDS THE PIER AND THE STATE AVERAGES.
THE MAJOR FOCUS OF EXPENDITURES FOR SURE IS PAYROLL.
YOU'RE AT A HIGH COST OF LIVING AREA.
YOU HAVE A LOT OF SCHOOL DISTRICTS IN THE AREA, MAKING IT EASIER FOR TEACHERS TO SWITCH AND GO SOMEWHERE THAT GETS THAT OFFERS BETTER SALARIES.
THAT MAKES SENSE THAT YOUR PAYROLL WOULD BE.
BE HIGHER THAN SOME OF THE AVERAGES.
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ANOTHER PRESCRIBED CHART WE INCLUDE IN THE REPORT IS THE ONE YOU SEE AT THE BOTTOM HERE.PAYROLL IS A PERCENTAGE OF ALL SPENDING.
THERE'S WHERE THE 85% CAME FROM.
AVERAGE TEACHER SALARY A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN STATE AVERAGE, A LITTLE LOWER THAN THE PEERS.
SAME AVERAGE ADMIN SALARIES HIGHER THAN STATE, LOWER THAN PEERS, SUPERINTENDENT SALARY, HIGHER THAN DISTRICT, AVERAGE PEERS AND HIGHER THAN STATE.
INFORMATION TO SHARE ON SALARIES.
LET'S SHIFT INTO FUND BALANCE.
THAT'S A TOPIC AS AN OUTSIDE AUDITOR WHEN I'M DOING YOUR FISCAL YEAR AUDIT.
THAT'S ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS WE'RE LOOKING AT.
IT GIVES ME AN IDEA OF THE FISCAL HEALTH, FINANCIAL POSITION OF A DISTRICT.
WHEN I SEE CERTAIN TRENDS, I START HAVING QUESTIONS, SEE RED FLAGS.
FOR EVERY SCHOOL DISTRICT I'M LOOKING AT THIS YEAR, I'VE SEEN SIMILAR TRENDS IN TEXAS.
WE DO AUDITS FOR ABOUT 70 SCHOOL DISTRICTS IN TEXAS, RIGHT ABOUT NOW.
SMALLER DISTRICTS TEND TO HAVE A LITTLE BETTER BUDGETS AT THE MOMENT, BUT THE MEDIANS AND LARGER DISTRICTS ARE REALLY STRUGGLING. YOU'LL KNOW THIS.
I'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT HERE IN A MOMENT AS WE GET INTO FUND BALANCES.
BUT ONE OF THE METRICS WE LOOKED AT FOR THIS WAS FUND BALANCE PER STUDENT.
AGAIN, LOOKING AT THESE RATIOS PER STUDENT IS USEFUL, HAYS HAS DECLINED FROM $827 TO 1354 HIGHLIGHTING SOME RESERVE ISSUES WE HAVE HERE AT THE DISTRICT.
CURRENT FUND BALANCE OR AS OF THE 2024 REPORT WAS 8.2% OF OPERATING COSTS.
HERE'S A CHART SHOWING UNASSIGNED GENERAL FUND FUND BALANCE PER STUDENT OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS.
YOU CAN SEE THE DECLINE THAT DEBORA REFERENCED EARLIER, AS WELL.
CHEFF GEARS HERE FOR A MOMENT, LOOKING AT SOME STAFFING METRICS, STAFFING INFORMATION, 03,139 STAFF, AS OF THE DATE THIS INFORMATION WAS COLLECTED.
48.5% OF THOSE ARE TEACHING STAFF, WHICH IS A LITTLE LOWER THAN THE PEER AVERAGE OF 52.
STUDENT STAFF RATIOS, CLOSE, REALLY, 15.2 VERSUS THE PEERS OF 155 AND STATE AVERAGE OF 14.7, REALLY.
TURNOVER RATE WAS INTERESTING, LOW COMPARED TO BOTH AVERAGES,13.7% YOUR TEACHERS LIKE IT HERE. THAT'S COOL.
THAT'S IMPORTANT PART OF LOOKING AT THE STUFF IS PAYROLL IS SUCH A HUGE FUNCTION OF A SCHOOL DISTRICT.
YOU GUYS HAVE TO STAY COMPETITIVE, AND THAT'S A BIG COST DRIVER FOR SURE.
NICE TO SEE TURNOVER RATIO IS VERY LOW COMPARED TO THE AVERAGES.
JUST SOME INFORMATIONAL STUFF HERE.
TALKING ABOUT SPECIAL PROGRAMS LIKE SPECIAL EDUCATION AND CAREER TECHNOLOGY. I MENTIONED EARLIER.
THOSE THINGS ARE FUNDED BASED ON PARTICIPATION OF STUDENTS, OF COURSE, MONTHLY AND QUARTERLY REVIEWS, ENSURING FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY.
YOU GUYS LOOK AT COMPENSATION AND STAFFING QUITE A BIT WITH MAKING EQUITY ADJUSTMENTS, MAKING SURE YOU'RE COMPETITIVE.
THEN LOOKING AT PROGRAM EVALUATION AND PLANNING, LOOKING AT OUTCOMES AND MASTER PLANS FOR ACADEMIC OUTCOMES.
NOT A LOT OF ANALYSIS HERE, JUST SOME INFORMATION PROVIDED ALONG WITH THE REPORT.
I MENTIONED EARLIER, REVENUES IN THE GENERAL FUND ARE A LOCAL STATE, ALMOST SPLIT HALF IN HALF, A LITTLE BIT OF FEDERAL.
YOU GUYS, OBVIOUSLY, OF COURSE, GET A TON OF FEDERAL DOLLARS.
ARE ALL IN DIFFERENT FUNDS AND DIFFERENT LOCATIONS IN THE REPORT.
THIS PAGE HERE REALLY IS JUST TALKING ABOUT THE DISTRICT'S INTENT.
IT SOUNDS LIKE THE GOAL IS TO UTILIZE AS MUCH OF THAT OUTSIDE FEDERAL FUNDING AS POSSIBLE TO HELP SUPPLEMENT OUR ACADEMICS. BOTH SCHOOL DISTRICTS DO.
YOU MAKE USE OF THOSE FUNDS, IF YOU DIDN'T, YOU WOULD HAVE TO ABSORB SOME OF THAT INTO THE GENERAL FUND.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO MAKE USE OF FEDERAL RESOURCES, LOCAL GRANT RESOURCES, AND STATE GRANT RESOURCES AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TO SUPPLEMENT THE ACADEMICS OF THE GENERAL FUND AND REMOVE SOME OF THOSE COSTS THAT WOULD OTHERWISE HIT YOUR GENERAL FUND.
JUST POINTING OUT THAT YOU GUYS APPEAR FROM OUR STANDPOINT TO BE MAKING AS MUCH USE OF THOSE ADDITIONAL DOLLARS AS POSSIBLE, WHICH IS GOOD.
FINAL REPORTING AND OVERSIGHT THING DIMENSION, WHICH SHE GS ALREADY KNOW.
LAST YEAR'S AUDIT. YOU GOT A CLEAN OPINION.
NO FINDINGS TO NOTE FROM LAST YEAR'S AUDIT.
WE'RE NOT DONE WITH 2025 YET, BUT IT LOOKS PROMISING AT THE MOMENT, THINK IS LOOKING GOOD.
WE'RE GOING TO GET HERE TO THE LAST PART.
I HAVE SOME KEY TAKEAWAYS, AND THEN I WANT TO OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.
AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THIS AUDIT, AS THEY CALL IT FEELS A LITTLE WEIRD BECAUSE I'M NOT COMING TO YOU WITH A CONCLUSION OR HERE'S WHAT YOU SHOULD DO, VOTERS.
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BUT SOME OF THE KEY TAKEAWAYS JUST FROM MY EXPERIENCE WITH THE DISTRICT IN SCHOOL DISTRICT IN TEXAS ARE WHAT I HAVE ON THE SCREEN HERE.NUMBER 1, THOSE FUND BALANCE RESERVES ARE LOW.
LESS THAN A MONTH TO FUND BALANCE AS OF THE DATE OF THE INFORMATION WE USED, WHICH IS JUNE 30 24.
RECOMMENDED IS THREE MONTHS FOR THOSE RESERVE.
SETTING ASIDE THOSE RESERVES FOR LIKE IN MY OWN BANK ACCOUNT, I HAVE A RESERVE.
IF MY HOT WATER HEATER BLOWS UP, I NEED TO BE ABLE TO GO BUY THAT HOT WATER HEATER, NOT HAVE TO GO PUT THAT ON THE CREDIT CARD.
SCHOOL DISTRICTS ARE NO DIFFERENT, SAME CONCEPT.
A COUPLE OF INTERESTING THINGS HERE.
REVENUE PER STUDENT IS LOWER THAN YOUR PEERS, BUT YOUR SPENDING PER STUDENT IS HIGHER THAN YOUR PEERS WITH SIMILAR ACADEMIC PERFORMANCE.
TO ME, THAT REVENUE LINE ITEM IS PRIMARILY A DRIVER OF YOUR LOCAL TAXES IN THE GENERAL FUND.
THOSE ARE JUST THE KEY TAKEAWAYS.
I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE OPINIONS ON ALL THIS. I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE QUESTIONS.
I'M SURE YOU'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER THAT, BUT JUST WANTED TO RECAP THE THREE OR FOUR REALLY BIG THINGS THAT I THOUGHT I SAW FROM THIS REPORT.
WHAT QUESTIONS CAN I ANSWER, OR WHAT COMMENTS TO YOU?
>> GREAT. THANK, MR. WILLIS. APPRECIATE THAT.
ALL RIGHT, TEAM, LOOK TO MY RIGHT. MISS BAAL.
>> MR. WILLIS, THANK YOU. [NOISE] FOR ACC, BUT THOROUGH OVERVIEW OF THIS.
IF I WERE JUST THE AVERAGE CITIZEN, I'VE NEVER SERVED ON THIS BOARD OR ANYTHING, WHERE WOULD I GO TO LOOK AT THE PROCESS FOR HOW A DISTRICT GETS AUDITED? YOU SAID TEA'S WEBSITE?
>> YES. TEA'S WEBSITE WOULD HAVE AN INDICATOR OR IT DOES HAVE IN THEIR FINANCIAL POLICIES, WHAT THE AUDIT LOOKS LIKE AND WHAT THINGS WE DO.
>> INDICATORS OF COMPLIANCE AND THINGS OF THAT SORT YOU TO DIG INTO.
AS WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS, THIS BOARD HAS BEEN VERY FOCUSED ON AS YOU SEE IN THE ATTRITION, I MEAN, THAT WE'VE BEEN VERY FOCUSED ON STAFF.
IT'S EYE-OPENING TO ME THAT THAT WE'RE BELOW SOME OF THE STATE AVERAGES OR EVEN COMPARED TO OUR PEERS WHEN IT COMES TO SALARIES AND WHAT HAVE YOU, BUT I MEAN, WE'RE STILL HIGH AS FAR AS OUR CURRENT FUND BALANCE POSITION.
I KNOW YOU SAID YOU WERE LOOKING FOR 'CAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF HARRIS COUNTY, LOT OF TARRANT COUNTY.
HOW DID YOU COME UP WITH YOUR SAMPLE SELECTION OF OUR PEERS? CAN YOU WALK ME THROUGH THAT AGAIN?
>> YEAH, SURE. I'M GOING TO BACK UP TO THAT LITTLE CHART BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S USEFUL.
WHAT WE USE IS CALLED TEXAS SMART SCHOOLS.
IT'S A TOOL CREATED I THINK CREATED BY TEXAS M SCHOOL SYSTEM.
IT'S NOT JUST LIKE THROWING SOME DARTS AT A DARK BOARD, LIKE I WOULD HAVE DONE WITHOUT IT.
LET ME GET BACK HERE REAL QUICK.
ESSENTIALLY, WHAT YOU DO IS ANYBODY CAN DO THIS.
YOU CAN GO TO TEXAS SMART SCHOOLS WEBSITE.
TYPE IN HAYS CONSOLIDATED ISD, AND IT'S GOING TO GENERATE THIS LITTLE GREEN CHART IF I EVER GET BACK THERE.
IT'S GOING TO LIST AT THE VERY BOTTOM, ALL THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND THEIR SMART SCORE, REALLY, HOW CLOSELY DO THEY ALIGN WITH HAYS CONSOLIDATED? TYPE AND HAYS CONSOLIDATED, IT SPITS OUT THIS GRAPH HERE ON THE X-AXIS.
WE HAVE COST ADJUSTED SPENDING PER PUPIL.
WE HAVE ACADEMIC PROGRESS ON THE Y-AXIS. I THINK I GOT THOSE RIGHT.
ALL THE DOTS ARE A PEER DISTRICT, AND WHAT WE DO IS LOOK, WE TRY TO GET THEM AS ALIGNED AS WE CAN, LIKE A CLUSTER IN A WAY.
BUT WE MIGHT THROW OUT SOME OUTLIERS.
WHAT YOU SEE HAYS IS THE SQUARE.
YOU SEE SOME WHITE DOTS THAT ARE IN THAT LINE?
>> WE DIDN'T PICK THOSE, PROBABLY BECAUSE THEIR ADA WAS MAYBE SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER. THAT MAKES SENSE.
WE MADE SOME JUDGMENT CALLS AS FAR AS WHICH ONES WE WANTED TO PICK, BUT PRIMARILY, THE TOOL SPITS OUT PRETTY GOOD COMPARISON DATA.
WE TRY TO FIND THE ONES THAT ARE CLOSEST CLUSTERED TO HAYS FOR THOSE TWO ATTRIBUTES.
>> AS THE AUDITOR, YOU ALL HAVE THE AUTONOMY TO PICK THAT'S RIGHT.
>> AND THE GUIDELINES PRESCRIBED.
>> YOU PROBABLY HAVE SOME GUIDELINES, INSTRUCTIONS FOR THE REVIEWER AUDITOR.
>> THAT'S RIGHT. THE GUIDELINES SAY DO THIS, AND THEY SAY, PICK CLOSE TO 100 IS WHAT THEY SAY.
>> YEAH, I WANTED TO HEAR A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE PROCESS.
I GEEK OUT A LITTLE BIT WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT REVIEWS AND AUDITS.
>> YOU SHOULD GO PLAY AROUND. THAT'S COOL TO SEE, I DON'T KNOW THAT I WOULD HAVE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD PICKED THOSE DISTRICTS. I DOUBT I WOULD HAVE.
>> THE TEXAS SMART SCHOOLS YOU SAID THAT'S RUN BY TEXAS A&M.
>> ARE YOU. >> MY SON IS ANYWAY.
>> THAT'S ALL I GOT RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU.
>> MISS [INAUDIBLE].I WENT AHEAD AND JUST, LIKE, OPENED UP THAT WEBSITE WHILE YOU WERE SITTING THERE TALKING AND PLUGGED IT IN.
I DO HAVE A QUESTION BECAUSE WHEN IT PULLS UP AND YOU TYPE IN, HAYS, CISD, IT SAYS YOU YEAR 2020.
IS THIS DATA BACK DATED FROM TO 22?
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I GUESS. IS THIS GOING TO BE CURRENT?>> I WOULD HAVE TO CHECK. I DON'T RECALL THAT THEY UPDATED THAT AS WELL.
>> I'M CURIOUS TO KNOW HOW UP TO DATE THIS INFORMATION IS.
>> ONLY BECAUSE, LIKE, I LOOK AT THESE PIA DISTRICTS.
WELL, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR PRESENTING TONIGHT.
IT'S A LOT OF GREAT INFORMATION.
>> BUT I LOOKED AT THE PIER DISTRICTS, AND I WAS LIKE, MAYBE WE CAN LOOK AT SOME OF THESE PIER DISTRICTS AS WE'RE LOOKING AT OTHER THINGS, AND WHEN WE GET TO BUDGET AND COMPENSATION.
BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF WE ARE, WE'RE LOOKING AT CURRENT DATA.
>> I'LL FIND THAT OUT FOR YOU.
>> I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU.
THANKS AGAIN FOR PRESENTING TONIGHT ALL GREAT INFORMATION.
>> MS. PETRIE. YES. THANKS AGAIN FOR THIS INFORMATION.
I DON'T KNOW THAT I'VE SEEN IT PRESENTED QUITE LIKE THIS. THAT'S PRETTY GREAT.
COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ON THE KEY TAKEAWAYS.
REVENUE PER STUDENT IS LOWER THAN PIER DISTRICTS, EXPENDITURES PER STUDENT, SLIGHTLY HIGHER THAN PER DISTRICTS AND LOWER THAN STATE AVERAGE.
CAN YOU TELL US LIKE, HOW MUCH LOWER EXPENDITURES, I'M SORRY, REVENUES ARE AND EXPENDITURES, HOW MUCH HIGHER WE'RE TALKING?
>> APOLOGIZE, IF I'VE SPED THROUGH THAT EARLIER, BUT I WILL CIRCLE BACK.
>> HEY. SHOW ME THAT. DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS AS TO WHY THAT MIGHT BE? I FEEL YOU HAS ALLUDED TO SOME, MAYBE ABOUT WHERE WE LIVE.
>> YEAH. IN MY OPINION ON THE EXPENDITURE SIDE, WHICH IS THE NEXT.
SEE HERE. WE ARE LOWER THAN PEERS, HIGHER THAN PEERS.
>>IS THERE A SLIDE THAT SHOWS ALL OF OUR PEER DISTRICTS AND WHAT THEY SPEND ON PAYROLL?
>> NO. I DON'T HAVE ANY. I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S INFORMATION IN THE FORMAT OF THIS REPORT FOR THAT.
>> THAT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING WE COULD COLLECT, BUT IT WOULD BE JUST LIKE INFORMATIONAL OUTSIDE OF THAT.
>> I MEAN, THERE WAS ONE THAT SAID THE STATE AVERAGE.
>> WE GOT SOME OF THAT DATA AND WE'RE QUITE A BIT HIGHER.
YOU HAD SAID, WITH CENTRAL TEXAS, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF DISTRICT COMPETITION AROUND HERE?
>> YEAH, THAT'S IN MY OPINION, BASED ON WHAT WE'VE LOOKED AT.
YOU GUYS ARE IN A PLACE, A METRO AREA LIKE AUSTIN, DALLAS, HOUSTON, ET CETERA, WHERE IT'S EASY TO MOVE TO ANOTHER DISTRICT, WHERE I GREW UP IN A SMALL TOWN AND NEXT DISTRICT OVER WAS 45 MINUTES AWAY.
>> YEAH, THE STATE AVERAGE BUT THE PEER DISTRICT I'M WITH RAU, THAT'S AN ODD. I'M SORRY.
IT'S AN INTERESTING GROUP THAT THEY PULLED FOR THE PEER DISTRICTS.
>> BUT IF LOOKING FOR YOURSELF, YOU GUYS OBVIOUSLY HAVE TO LOOK AT YOUR NEIGHBORS FOR THIS COMPARISON OUTSIDE OF THIS AUDIT THAT WE DID.
YOU'VE GOT COMPETING DISTRICTS NEARBY THAT YOU WANT TO BE COMPETITIVE WITH, SO THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE.
>> I MEAN, MORE LIKE HOUSING COSTS.
>> YEAH, THAT MAKES SENSE TOO, HIGH COST OF LIVING.
>> BECAUSE BRAZORIA AND HARRIS, ARE ALL IN TEXAS.
I MEAN, NEAR HOUSTON, TOMBALL IS IN HOUSTON.
TARRANT COUNTY IS UP NEAR FORT WORTH.
>> IT'S JUST THAT ACTUALLY MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT MORE INDICATIVE OF HOUSING COSTS, BUT I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, I CAN BUY A LOT MORE HOUSE IN BRAZORIA COUNTY THAN I CAN IN HAYS COUNTY.
>> I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE AS TO WHAT OTHER THOUGHTS YOU MAY HAVE HAD VERSUS WHY OUR EXPENDITURES MIGHT BE A LITTLE HIGHER THAN THESE DISTRICTS.
>> I DO THINK THE PAYROLL IS THE CONTRIBUTING FACTOR.
>> WHY WOULD OUR PAYROLL BE HIGHER? I WANT YOU TO SAY IT. WHY?
>> I MEAN, TRYING TO COMPETE WITH YOUR NEIGHBORS, REALLY, IS TRUE.
>> TRYING TO BE COMPETITIVE, IS WHAT IT SEEMS LIKE TO ME.
>> TRUE. ABSOLUTELY. COST OF LIVING.
I KNOW YOUR POINT THERE MAKES SENSE.
ADDING THOSE KINDS OF DETAILS IS NOT REALLY ALLOWED IN THESE GUIDELINES.
THIS HAS TO LOOK EXACTLY LIKE THE STATE PUT OUT.
I CAN'T ADD WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
>> I GET THAT. BUT I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE CRITICS SAY, WHY ARE YOU SPENDING SO MUCH MONEY ON PAYROLL WHEN YOUR PEER DISTRICTS CLEARLY HAVE FIGURED THIS OUT.
>> I'M LOOKING AT THESE PEER DISTRICTS AND GROWING UP IN SPRING, TEXAS, WHICH IS RIGHT BY TOMBALL, IS DIFFERENT.
>> ALL RIGHT. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU.
>> SORRY, YEAH, IF YOU HAVE ANY.
>> EITHER ONE, MS. OMERS, OR YOU, SIR, IF YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS AS TO WHY IT MIGHT BE DIFFERENT.
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>> BACK TO OUR WORK HERE FOR A MOMENT, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
TO ME, I BELIEVE THE RATIO OF PROPERTY, THE LOCAL REVENUE WAS LOWER. GIVE ME A SECOND HERE.
I WANT TO SAY THERE'S SOME DISCUSSION OF THIS ON PAGE 3 OF THE HANDOUT.
>> APPRECIATE IT. NO, REVENUE FOR STUDENTS ON PAGE 11.
FORGIVE ME. I THOUGHT THERE WAS AN EXPLANATION OF THAT IN HERE.
>> I THINK WHAT WE CAN SEE IS THE COMBINATION OF THE LOCAL AND THE STATE, IT SHIFTS A LITTLE BIT, BUT OUR ALLOWABLE REVENUE IS BASED ON A COMBINATION OF THE TWO.
WE DIDN'T CHECK BECAUSE IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT OF THE GUIDELINES, BUT LIKELY MOST ALL OF THOSE DISTRICTS HAVE ALREADY HAD A TRE.
THEY'RE BRINGING IN MORE REVENUE.
>> COULD BE. THAT WAS A QUESTION MR. SEIBEL HAD EARLIER, AND THAT'S SOMETHING I CAN GET TO YOU GUYS AND FIND OUT THAT THOSE DISTRICTS HAVE A TRE BECAUSE THAT WOULD CHANGE THAT FIGURE RIGHT THERE.
>> DID YOU FIND IT WHAT PAGE IS ON, PLEASE?
>> YEAH. PAGE 11. THE A LITTLE COM BOUND REPORT HAS AN EXPLANATION AT THE BOTTOM OF THAT SAME GRAPHS, THE SAME CHART.
>> THANK YOU. I JUST HAD SOME FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS.
I ALSO HAD THE SAME QUESTION ABOUT WHAT YEAR THIS DATA IS FROM?
>> YES, BECAUSE I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT PAGE 17 WHEN IT TALKS ABOUT PAYROLL CONSTITUTING 85.5 PERCENT OF THE TOTAL FUNDS.
I KNOW WE'VE BEEN QUOTED A HIGHER NUMBER THAN THAT.
THAT'S WHY I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT WHERE YOU GOT THIS DATA, 85.5, BECAUSE I KNOW WE'VE BEEN QUOTED, I THINK 89 PERCENT.
>> IT'S 89 IN THE GENERAL FUND, BUT THAT IS ALL FUNDS.
>> IT IS JUNE 30, 2024 IS THE DATA.
>> THE STANDARD FOR THE GUIDELINES FOR THESE AUDITS WANT US TO USE THE MOST RECENT ISSUED AUDIT, THAT'S JUNE 30, 2024.
I REALLY DO APPRECIATE YOU HIGHLIGHTING THAT ONE OF THE REASONS THAT OUR SUPERINTENDENT SALARY IS HIGHER IS BECAUSE OF THE TENURE OF OUR SUPERINTENDENT, WHICH IS EVEN MORE NOW.
I MEAN, WHAT IS IT? 24 YEARS OF HAVING TENURES.
THAT'S AMAZING, ESPECIALLY IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, WHERE WE HAVE SUCH A HUGE TURNOVER IN SUPERINTENDENT THROUGHOUT THE STATE, AND MOST ARE LEAVING THE PROFESSION.
WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE SUCH A TENURED SUPERINTENDENT.
THANK YOU FOR HIGHLIGHTING THAT.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS A REALLY IMPORTANT PIECE TO HIGHLIGHT.
THE OTHER QUESTION THAT I HAD WAS REGARDING THE TEACHER TURNOVER RATE ON PAGE 21.
>> AGAIN, IT QUOTES 13.7 AS A TEACHER TURNOVER RATE.
I'M ASSUMING THIS IS BASED IN 2024.
BECAUSE I KNOW WE ALSO HAVE RECEIVED A DIFFERENT NUMBER FOR THAT, I THINK IT WAS UNDER SEVEN PERCENT.
I JUST WANTED TO CHECK ON THAT NUMBER BECAUSE THERE IS A DISCREPANCY THERE.
>> INTERESTING. DO YOU HAVE THOUGHTS ON THE SEVEN PERCENT BEING DIFFERENT THAN 13? BECAUSE THIS IS BASED ON THE DATA WE PULLED FROM, YEAH.
>> FROM PMS DATA. I DON'T KNOW IF CHRISTINA DOES [OVERLAPPING] WITH THE PART ON PROGRAMS.
>> YOU CAN GET BACK TO ME ON THAT. I JUST WANTED TO CHECK.
IF WE CAN RECEIVE AND MR. SEIBEL CAN CASH THIS QUESTION.
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WE CAN RECEIVE AND WE'VE RECEIVED IT BEFORE, BUT IT JUST NEEDS TO COME TO THE TOP RIGHT.WHAT THE TURNOVER RATE HAS BEEN FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD THING TO LOOK AT.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.
THAT WAS ALL THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAD.
>> OH, YES, SIR. THANK YOU, MR. WILLIS FOR PRESENTING ALL THIS GREAT INFORMATION.
JUST AT THE TOP, I REALLY WANT TO RE-EMPHASIZE THAT THIS WASN'T REQUIRED BEFORE THE TRE ELECTION AND THAT WE'RE A DISTRICT THAT BELIEVES IN TRANSPARENCY.
WE CHOSE TO DO THIS BECAUSE WE BELIEVE IT BUILDS PUBLIC TRUST, AND IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE ARE TRANSPARENT ABOUT OUR FINANCIAL SITUATION.
ALSO, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO KNOW THE 57.2 PERCENT IN DIRECT INSTRUCTION SPENT ON DIRECT INSTRUCTION, WHICH IS HIGHER THAN OUR PEERS, IF I REMEMBER THAT YOU JUST MENTIONED.
THE FACT THAT WE ARE IN A VERY RAPIDLY GROWING AREA, WITH THE HIGHER THAN AVERAGE COST OF LIVING.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE A GENERAL AT THE HELM THAT IS EXPERIENCE.
WE ARE DARN LUCKY TO HAVE DR. WRIGHT WITH 24 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE.
WE ARE A VERY SOCIALLY DIVERSE COMMUNITY AS WELL.
ALSO, THANK YOU, TRUSTEE OROSCO, FOR MENTIONED THAT DISCREPANCY IN THE TURNOVER RATE BECAUSE WE HAVE SEEN A DIFFERENT NUMBER, BUT NONETHELESS, WE ARE BELOW AVERAGE IN OUR TURNOVER RATE.
WE ARE AN EMPLOYEE FRIENDLY DISTRICT, AND TEACHERS WANT TO STAY AND PLANT THE ROOTS HERE IN HAYS COUNTY.
BUT AGAIN, I JUST HAVE, REALLY THOSE COMMENTS, BUT REALLY THAT WE PUSH HIGH EXPECTATIONS ON OUR KIDS.
WE TALK ABOUT HIGH EXPECTATIONS ALWAYS, WHETHER IT'S OUR TEACHERS OR INS TEAM.
WE ARE VERY MUCH INTO THE HIGH EXPECTATIONS GAME AS WELL OURSELVES.
WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO BETTER AND CONTINUOUSLY IMPROVE.
BUT I APPRECIATE PRESENTING ALL THIS INFORMATION.
I CERTAINLY HELPS OUT AND IT BUILDS PUBLIC TRUST.
>> YEAH. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR PRESENTING THIS.
I THINK THIS IS REALLY GREAT INFORMATION FOR OUR PUBLIC GENERALLY TO HAVE, OBVIOUSLY GOING THROUGH OUR CURRENT ELECTION RIGHT NOW, BUT JUST IN GENERAL, OBVIOUSLY, WHENEVER WE'RE ASKING OUR PUBLIC FOR MONEY, IT'S GOOD TO KNOW THAT THE MONEY THAT THEY ARE CURRENTLY PROVIDING US IS BEING SPENT WISELY AND EFFICIENTLY.
THIS IS GOOD. I THINK ON THE EXPENDITURE SIDE OF THINGS, YOU POINTED OUT OUR HIGHER RATES OF SUBPOPULATIONS COMPARED TO SOME OF OUR PEER DISTRICTS BEING A CONTRIBUTING FACTOR, SO I WOULD POINT TO THAT AS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY OUR EXPENSES ARE PERHAPS HIGHER THAN SOME OF OUR PEERS, BECAUSE WE HAVE SOME SUBPOPULATIONS THAT ARE FRANKLY MORE EXPENSIVE TO EDUCATE.
THAT'S JUST A FACT OF EDUCATION. THAT'S THAT TOO.
I THINK THAT THE BREAKDOWN OVERALL IS INTERESTING, LOOKING THROUGH THIS.
WE SPEND MORE ON TRANSPORTATION, FOR EXAMPLE, THAN OUR PEER DISTRICTS HAVE TO, PROBABLY BY NATURE OF OUR 221 SQUARE MILES THAT MS. MAYOR AND HER TEAM EFFICIENTLY HAVE OUR ROUTES PLANNED OUT.
TRYING TO GET THROUGH THAT. OTHER THING THAT STOOD OUT IS OUR MAINTENANCE OPERATIONS.
WE SPEND LESS ON MAINTENANCE OPERATIONS, BUT THAT'S A BYPRODUCT OF BUT ALSO, THAT'S A PER DOLLAR AMOUNT, AND AS A PERCENTAGE OF OUR OVERALL FUNDS, WHICH IS INTERESTING TO POINT OUT.
WE TRY TO BE AS LEAN AS POSSIBLE, AND WE'VE TRIED TO MAKE THAT AS LEAN AS POSSIBLE OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
SIDE NOTE THAT SUPERINTENDENT SALARY HAS STAYED THE SAME SINCE THIS DATA.
SIDE NOTE. OUR TEACHER SALARY-WISE, PAYING MORE THAN OUR NEIGHBORING DISTRICTS AS TRUSTEE FLORES, AND OTHERS HAVE POINTED OUT IS ALL GOOD INFORMATION.
BUT I THINK JUST IN GENERAL, AS OTHERS HAVE POINTED OUT, THIS IS ALL ABOUT US JUST TRYING TO BE AS TRANSPARENT AS POSSIBLE AS WE ARE ASKING FOR MORE FUNDS.
THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO KNOW THAT WE'RE DOING AS BEST AS WE CAN COMPARED TO OUR PEER DISTRICTS WITH CERTAIN THINGS.
BUT THERE'S CERTAIN TAKEAWAYS TOO THAT, HEY, THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE SHOULD MAYBE LOOK AT, ARE WE DOING THIS AS EFFICIENTLY AS POSSIBLE, THINGS AS WELL.
OVERALL, AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR LOOKING INTO SEEING IF BETTER ELECTIONS FOR SOME OF THESE PEER DISTRICTS, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE AN INTERESTING COMPARISON ON THE REVENUE SIDE OF THINGS.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I JUST AGAIN, APPRECIATE THE INFORMATION.
>> THANK YOU. ALTHOUGH, I KNOW, IF A&M SAYS THAT THIS IS THEIR PEER GROUP, THEN WE HAVE TO SAY IT'S OBVIOUSLY NOT.
THEY'RE RIGHT ABOUT IT, BUT STILL, I THINK YOU'VE HEARD FROM THIS BOARD THAT WE'RE PRETTY PROTECTIVE OF WHAT WE DO HERE COMPARED TO OUR NEIGHBORING SISTER DISTRICTS.
I THINK OUR TURNOVER RATE IS THE BEST IN OUR PEER GROUP, WE CALL OUR PEER GROUP, OUR REGION.
I APPRECIATE THE TRANSPARENCY SIDE OF MS. OMERS FOR BRINGING THIS AUDIT FORWARD,
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BUT I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION RELATED TO THE FISCAL SUSTAINABILITY CONCERN.OUR CURRENT FUND BALANCE REPRESENTS ONLY 8.2 PERCENT OF OPERATING COSTS AND 32.9 PERCENT OF A THREE MONTH BENCHMARK SIGNALING FISCAL CHALLENGES.
WHAT WOULD BE A NUMBER THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT'S MORE FAVORABLE FOR THIS REPORT.
THOSE NUMBERS, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE THOSE TO BE?
>> IF YOU TURN THAT EIGHT PERCENT, IT'S LITTLE LESS THAN A MONTH OF FUND BALANCE.
THAT'S THE WAY WE THINK ABOUT IT.
I THINK IT'S EASIER TO COMMUNICATE TO ANYONE.
WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT HOW MANY MONTHS OF FUND BALANCE DO YOU HAVE IN THE GENERAL FUND? THE THOUGHT PROCESS THE SORT OF METRIC IS, WHAT IF AT JUNE 30, 2024, A SUDDENLY HAD NO REVENUE COMING IN? HOW LONG COULD THE GENERAL FUND LAST? LESS THAN A MONTH WHEN THE RECOMMENDED AVERAGE REALLY IS THREE MONTHS.
I MEAN, THERE'S THE RIGHT NUMBER FOR A, HOW MUCH FUND BALANCE SHOULD WE HAVE, IS IT BELONGED TO CONVERSATION? DON'T GET ME WRONG.
YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE TOO MUCH, BUT YOU DEFINITELY DON'T WANT TO HAVE TOO LITTLE.
THE THREE MONTHS OF FUND BALANCE IS WHAT I WOULD SAY AT THE BARE MINIMUM, CERTAINLY.
ALL RIGHT, TEAM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
MS. OMERS, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE FOR THIS AGENDA ITEM FOR US? ALL RIGHT, MR. WILLIS, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
GOOD SEEING YOU, AGAIN. I APPRECIATE THE TIME TONIGHT.
>> I'LL SEE YOU IN ABOUT A MONTH, I THINK.
>> ALL RIGHT. TEAM. THIS IS WHERE IT CHANGES PACE FOR US.
>> THIS IS WHERE OUR NEW ROUTINE GOES INTO EFFECT WHERE WE'RE GOING INTO CLOSED SESSION AT THIS POINT.
[G. CLOSED SESSION]
AT THIS POINT, AT THIS TIME, THE BOARD WILL ADJOURN TO A CLOSED SESSION IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT, TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551, SUBCHAPTERS D AND E, OR TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 418.1839(F).>> TEAM, GOOD EVENING. WE ARE BACK IN OPEN SESSION.
[H. RECONVENE IN OPEN SESSION - immediately following Closed Session]
AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR ATTENDANCE, AND WE'RE LISTENING ONLINE. THE TIME IS 7:41.A QUORUM HAS ALREADY BEEN ESTABLISHED, AND ALL MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF PRESIDENTS, AND THIS IS WHERE MR. SEIBEL WILL NOT BE DOING THE PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE, BECAUSE WE ARE MOVING STRAIGHT INTO OUR NEXT ITEM, WHICH IS GOING TO BE OUR SUPERINTENDENT REPORT.
[I. SUPERINTENDENT REPORT]
DR. WRIGHT, TAKE IT AWAY.>> THANK YOU, SIR. GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.
ENROLLMENT AS OF TODAY, 25,049 STUDENTS, AND OUR ATTENDANCE AS OF TODAY, SINCE THE BEGINNING OF SCHOOL, IS 94.7%, SO WE'RE TRACKING WELL ON BOTH OF THOSE FRONTS, AND NOW, BARBARA, WE CAN GET INTO THE SLIDE SHOW.
I WANTED TO UPDATE THE COMMUNITY.
WE HAD, OUR STATE OF THE DISTRICT, CELEBRATION THIS PAST WEEK, AND AS YOU CAN SEE, WE SHOWCASED OUR KIDS IN CAREER AND TECHNOLOGY EDUCATION, AND I TALKED IN MY SECTION ABOUT EMPLOYABILITY SKILLS, AND CAREER AND TECHNOLOGY EDUCATION REALLY DOES AN OUTSTANDING JOB ATTACKING EACH ONE OF THOSE EMPLOYABILITY SKILLS, AND WE HAD THE GREAT OPPORTUNITY OF GOING AROUND FROM TABLE TO TABLE AND VISITING WITH OUR KIDS, AND THEY WERE BEAMING WITH PRIDE, AND THEY SHOOK OUR HANDS, LOOKED US IN THE EYE AND EXPLAINED EACH OF THE PROGRAMS OF STUDY THAT THEY ARE IN AND DID AN OUTSTANDING JOB, AND SO I WAS VERY PROUD TO BE ABLE TO SHOWCASE ALL OF THEIR ABILITIES AND EFFORTS, AND THE FOUNDATION DID A GREAT JOB PUTTING THIS ON FOR US, AND I THINK THEY WERE ABLE TO GENERATE CLOSE TO $70,000 FOR THE EDUCATION FOUNDATION, SO THAT'S EXCITING.
NEXT, BARBARA. WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF SUCCESSES IN MANY DIFFERENT AREAS, AND WANTED TO CELEBRATE THE HAYS HAWKS GIRLS WATER POLO TEAM.
THEY ADVANCED TO THE ORIGINAL QUARTERFINAL ROUND.
IT'S THE FURTHEST THAT GIRLS WATER POLO AT HAYS HIGH SCHOOL HAS EVER GONE, AND SO CONGRATULATIONS TO THEM.
NICE ROUND OF APPLAUSE.[APPLAUSE] THE HAYS HAWKS BOYS CROSS-COUNTRY TEAM IS ADVANCING TO REGIONALS.
THEY ACTUALLY RUN TOMORROW, AND THE BOYS, I THINK, FINISHED THIRD IN DISTRICT IN THE RIGHT COACH? SECOND IN DISTRICT, AND THEY'RE ADVANCING TO REGIONALS, SO BEST OF LUCK TO THEM.
LET'S GIVE THEM A ROUND OF APPLAUSE.
THEN THE HAYS BAND THEY WERE THE GRAND CHAMPIONS OF THE US BAND, THE MUSSER CLASSIC, AND THERE WERE OVER 30 BANDS REPRESENTED, AND THE HAWKS TOOK HOME FIRST PLACE, SO CONGRATULATIONS TO THE HAYS BAND.
APPLAUSE] NOT TO BE UNDONE BY THE GIRLS AT HAYS, JOHNSON JAGUARS BOYS WATER POLO ALSO MADE IT TO THE REGIONAL QUARTER-FINAL ROUND.
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IT'S THE FURTHEST THAT THEY'VE EVER GONE.THEIR GIRLS DID EXCEPTIONALLY WELL LAST YEAR, BUT THE BOYS PICKED UP WHERE THEY LEFT OFF, AND THEY MADE IT THREE ROUNDS DEEP AND HAD AN OUTSTANDING YEAR.
I KNOW, MR. CLEAVER'S SON ELLIS IS ON THAT SQUAD, AND WE'RE REALLY PROUD OF THEM AND THEIR EFFORT.
THE JOHNSON JAGUAR CROSS COUNTRY TEAM ALSO IS SENDING TEAMS TO REGIONALS, AND THEY RUN TOMORROW.
BOTH THE BOYS AND THE GIRLS TEAM FROM JOHNSON, AND I BELIEVE THEY DID FINISH THIRD IN DISTRICT, AND SO BEST OF LUCK TO THEM AS THEY GO AND RUN AT REGIONALS TOMORROW.
THEN THE MOE AND GENE JOHNSON BAND, THEY WERE INVITED TO ST. LOUIS TO COMPETE IN THE SUPER REGIONALS IN THE BANDS OF AMERICA, AND THEY FINISHED FOURTH IN THE SUPER REGIONALS AT ST. LOUIS, SO QUITE A FEAT, AND SO VERY PROUD OF THEM IN THEIR EFFORTS.
[APPLAUSE] THEN WE HAD ONE YOUNG MAN FROM LEMAN THAT QUALIFIED FOR REGIONALS, ELIJAH CHAVEZ, AND HE WILL BE RUNNING TOMORROW AS WELL, AND SO SHOUT OUT TO MR. CHAVEZ.
[APPLAUSE] THEN I WANTED TO INVITE YOU THIS COMING FRIDAY, WE HAVE THE HAYS CISD STORYBOOK CHARACTER CELEBRATIONS, AND OUR BOARD MEMBERS DO SUCH A GREAT JOB OF DRESSING UP AND THEN READING TO THE KIDS, UNLIKE THE SUPERINTENDENT WHO SOMETIMES DRESSES LIKE BEETLE JUICE AND SCARES THE KIDS, THEY PICK A COSTUME THAT'S PROBABLY MUCH MORE USER FRIENDLY, AND AND SO I KNOW WE HAVE THE STORYBOOK CHARACTER CELEBRATION AT CAMINO REAL THIS COMING FRIDAY, AND I'M GOING TO READ, AND HOPEFULLY SOME OF YOU WILL BE ABLE TO READ AS WELL.
BUT INVITING THE COMMUNITY AS WELL, THERE'S A SIGN UP SHEET, AND IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN READING TO THE KIDS, AND CHOOSING YOUR FAVORITE CHARACTER, PLEASE DO SO THE KIDS ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT.
NEXT ONE. JUST A REMINDER, YOU SEE THE WALLS UP IN THIS BOARD ROOM.
WE HAVE VOTING GOING ON, STARTING TODAY, THE EARLY VOTING FOR OUR TAX RATIFICATION ELECTION, AND SO JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY EARLY VOTING GOES FROM TODAY THE 20TH THROUGH OCTOBER 31ST, AND THEN THE GENERAL ELECTION DAY IS ON NOVEMBER THE FOURTH, AND THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT, MR. PRESIDENT.
>> THANK YOU, DR. WRIGHT, TEAM. LOOK TO MY RIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS. MY LEFT.
ALSO, MY LOVE HERE AND IN THE MIDDLE OF THE YEAR, WE'RE IN THE THICK OF IT FOR STUDENT ATHLETES, AND BAND AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
I'LL LOOK FORWARD TO THOSE REPORTS GOING FORWARD. GREAT TOP TEAM.
NOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE INTO ITEM J,
[J. Student Achievement Report: Beginning of Year mCLASS and MAP (Scheduled for October 20, 2025)]
WHICH IS OUR FIRST ACADEMY REPORT OF THE YEAR.[INAUDIBLE] WILL BE COMING UP TO THE PODIUM TO PRESENT OUR BEGINNING OF THE YEAR M CLASS AND MAP REPORT, AND THE WHOLE TEAM WILL ALSO BE JOINING US.
>> PRESIDENT SEVERANCE, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, DR. WRIGHT.
FOR THE STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT REPORT, IT'S MY PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE JAMIE KINSLOW.
SHE IS OUR INTERIM DIRECTOR OF ASSESSMENT AND ACCOUNTABILITY.
SHE'S BEEN IN THAT ROLE SINCE APRIL AND HAS LED US THROUGH 2025 ACCOUNTABILITY, THE 2023/24 RELEASES, TEACHER INCENTIVE ALLOTMENT, AND NOW SHE'S HERE TO PRESENT ON OUR BEGINNING OF YEAR DATA. JAMIE KINSLOW.
>> BEFORE YOU GET KICKED OFF TEAM, WE DO HAVE A REPORT IN OUR DIAS FOLDER.
IF YOU WANT TO FOLLOW ALONG, IT'D ALSO BE UP ON THE SCREENS AS WELL.
>> GOOD EVENING, PRESIDENT SEVERANCE, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD AND DR. WRIGHT.
I'M JAMIE KINSLOW, THE INTERIM DIRECTOR OF ASSESSMENT ACCOUNTABILITY, AND TONIGHT, I'M GOING TO PRESENT AN OVERVIEW OF OUR BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, UNIVERSAL SCREENER DATA FOR THE 2025/2026 SCHOOL YEAR.
THIS INCLUDES M CLASS FOR EARLY LITERACY AND MAP GROWTH FOR MATH, READING, AND SCIENCE, AND FOR TIME'S SAKE, I'M GOING TO HIGHLIGHT KEY POINTS, BUT I'M HAPPY TO DISCUSS ANY OF THE SLIDES IN DETAIL SINCE IT IS RATHER LONG.
UNIVERSAL SCREENERS ARE STARTING LINE.
THEY SHOW WHERE THE STUDENT BEGINS AND THEIR POTENTIAL FOR GROWTH.
RESULTS GUIDE TIER 1, 2, AND 3 SUPPORTS, ALIGN INSTRUCTION, AND CONNECT TO THE TIA.
USING OUR BOY BASELINE, WE TRACK PROGRESS AT MOY TO REALIGN INTERVENTIONS AND KEEP STUDENTS ON TRACK.
YEAR TO YEAR COMPARISONS ARE COMPLEX DUE TO CHANGING STUDENTS AND TEACHERS.
THIS YEAR, WE ALSO HAVE TWO MAJOR SHIFTS IN THE UEA MAP TESTS.
NEW NORMS FOR THE 2025 SCHOOL YEAR REFLECTING POST COVID TRENDS, AND THE EISA BLUEPRINT ALIGNING TESLA ITEMS MORE TIGHTLY TO TEAKS.
THE NEW NORMS USE STRONGER, MORE REPRESENTATIVE NATIONAL SAMPLES.
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STUDENTS ARE COMPARED TO A CURRENT PEER GROUP, SO SCORES MAY LOOK DIFFERENT THIS YEAR THAN THE PAST.THE UPDATED NORMATIVE CURVE IS WIDER AT THE LOWER END AND FLATTER OVERALL.
THE BIGGEST SHIFTS ARE AMONG OUR STUDENTS WHO ARE ALREADY BELOW GRADE LEVEL, AND BY PEER FURTHER BEHIND EVEN WITH SIMILAR RAW SCORE GAMES.
THAT'S WHY OUR FOCUS REMAINS ON STUDENT GROWTH RATHER THAN A DIRECT YEAR TO YEAR COMPARISON.
THE EISA INSIGHT STUDENT ASSESSMENT OR EARLY INSIGHT STUDENTS ASSESSMENT BLUEPRINT ALIGNS MAP ITEMS DIRECTLY TO GRADE LEVEL TEAKS, MAKING THE ASSESSMENT MORE INSTRUCTIONALLY RELEVANT.
AS A RESULT, THE PERFORMANCE PATTERNS MAY LOOK DIFFERENT THIS YEAR, BUT THE DATA IS MORE CLOSELY TIED TO WHAT THE STUDENTS ARE LEARNING AND MORE ACTIONABLE FOR INSTRUCTION.
MAP IS A COMPUTER ADAPTIVE ASSESSMENT THAT ADJUSTS TO EACH STUDENT'S PERFORMANCE.
STUDENTS BEGIN AT GRADE LEVEL.
CORRECT ANSWERS LEAD TO MORE CHALLENGING ITEMS WHILE MISSED QUESTIONS ADJUST DOWNWARD.
THIS PROCESS IDENTIFIES EACH STUDENT'S INSTRUCTIONAL LEVEL REFLECTED IN THEIR WRIT SCORE.
THE NEXT FEW SLIDES PROVIDE A MORE DETAILED OVERVIEW OF HOW EISA WORKS.
IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, I'M GOING TO MOVE THROUGH THEM QUICKLY, BUT I'M HAPPY TO REVISIT THE SECTION IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THE END.
IN THE LEGACY MAP, CORRECT ANSWERS WOULD JUMP STUDENTS TO HIGHER GRADE LEVEL CONTENT OFTEN, LIKE MOVING FROM EQUAL TO UNEQUAL DENOMINATORS BEFORE CONFIRMING MASTERY.
EISA NOW STAYS WITHIN THE GRADE LEVEL TEAKS LONGER, INCREASING RIGOR WITHIN THE STANDARD BEFORE ADVANCING.
FOR EXAMPLE, FOURTH GRADE TEAK 4.3E.
IF A STUDENT HAD GOTTEN THIS CORRECT IN THE LEGACY, THEY MIGHT HAVE JUMPED TO A 5.3H QUESTION, WHICH WAS ABOUT UNEQUAL DENOMINATORS INSTEAD OF EQUAL DENOMINATORS.
IN EISA, WE WOULD NOW HAVE A QUESTION THAT WAS MORE RIGOROUS WITHIN THE STANDARD.
WITH THE NEW NORMS IN EISA, LOWER SCORES DON'T NECESSARILY MEAN LOWER PERFORMANCE.
THEY INDICATE STRONGER NATIONAL REFERENCE GROUP AND MORE RIGOROUS ALIGNMENT.
OUR FOCUS NEEDS TO REMAIN ON STUDENT GROWTH AND TARGETED INSTRUCTION.
WITH THAT CONTEXT, LET'S LOOK AT FOUR YEARS OF MAP MATH DATA.
EACH COLOR REPRESENTS A STUDENT COHORT SCORING AT OR ABOVE THE 50TH PERCENTILE OR AVERAGE NATIONAL PERFORMANCE.
SOME DIPS IN 2025 ALIGN WITH THE NEW NORMS AND EISA.
EIGHTH GRADE RESULTS INCLUDE ONLY ON LEVEL MATH ASSESSMENTS AS ALGEBRA STUDENTS TAKE THE ALGEBRA CONTENT SPECIFIC TESTS, AND HIGH SCHOOL DIFFERENCES REFLECT THE SHIFT FROM TWO CORE SPECIFIC ASSESSMENTS LIKE ALGEBRA 1 GEOMETRY AND ALGEBRA 2.
HERE IS OUR 2025 BOY MATH DATA FOR K5, WHICH PROVIDES THE BASELINE FOR FOUNDATIONAL NUMERACY.
OUR MIDDLE SCHOOL DATA HELPS CAMPUSES PINPOINT STRONG FOUNDATIONAL SKILLS AND IDENTIFY WHERE STUDENTS NEED REINFORCEMENT TO ENSURE ALGEBRA READINESS.
ACROSS THESE HIGH SCHOOL COURSES, WE SAW STRONG GROWTH LAST YEAR WITH PERFORMANCE ABOVE NATIONAL AVERAGES.
THESE SUBJECT SPECIFIC ASSESSMENTS ALIGNED TO CORES STANDARDS AND SAT EXPECTATIONS AND HELP IDENTIFY STUDENTS NEEDING EXTRA SUPPORT.
THIS IS OUR SECOND YEAR USING MAP SCIENCE ACROSS THE DISTRICT.
OVER HALF OF OUR STUDENTS SCORE AT OR ABOVE THE 50TH PERCENTILE.
WHILE OUR STUDENTS PERFORM WELL NATIONALLY, TEXAS SETS HIGHER EXPECTATIONS FOR STAR THAN MANY OTHER STATES.
OUR FOCUS IS ON INCREASING THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS IN THE TOP PERFORMANCE TIERS TO ENSURE THEY MEET OR EXCEED STATE EXPECTATIONS AND STAY ON TRACK FOR ADVANCED ACADEMIC GOALS.
THIS IS ALSO OUR SECOND READING FOR MAP READING SIX THROUGH 11.
ABOUT HALF OF OUR STUDENTS IN GRADES SIX THROUGH 10 SCORE AT OR ABOVE THE 50TH PERCENTILE, WHICH ALIGNS WITH THE MEET STANDARD ON STAR.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT STUDENTS IN ADVANCED ENGLISH COURSES LIKE AP, ON RAMPS, AND DUAL CREDIT, DO NOT TAKE MAP.
THE 11TH GRADE RESULTS REFLECT ONLY ON LEVEL STUDENTS IN ENGLISH 3.
THESE RESULTS SHOW THAT OUR SECONDARY READERS ARE STARTING THE YEAR STRONG AND ARE WELL POSITIONED TO CONTINUE GROWING.
NOW SHIFTING TO K5 READING WHERE WE USE M CLASS TO MEASURE LITERACY.
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ABOUT HALF OR MORE OF OUR STUDENTS ARE PERFORMING ABOVE THE NATIONAL NORM.WE'VE SEEN STRONG FLUENCY GAINS SUPPORTED BY READING ACADEMIES, OPEN COURT, AND TARGETED SUPPORT THROUGH M CLASS AMPLIFY BOOST AND SMALL GROUP INDIVIDUAL LESSONS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT IN THESE INITIATIVES.
THE 2025 BOY M CLASS DATA GROUP STUDENTS INTO FOUR PERFORMANCE LEVELS, GIVING TEACHERS A CLEAR STARTING POINT TO PERSONALIZE INSTRUCTION.
FOR OUR BILINGUAL CLASSROOMS, WE USE M CLASS LECTURA TO MONITOR SPANISH LITERACY.
ABOUT HALF THE STUDENTS PERFORM AT OR ABOVE THE NATIONAL 50TH PERCENTILE.
M CLASS LECTURA ALSO GROUPS STUDENTS INTO FOUR PERFORMANCE LEVELS.
TEACHERS USE THESE RESULTS TO DIFFERENTIATE INSTRUCTION AND PROVIDE TARGETED LITERACY SUPPORT IN SPANISH.
BOTH MAP AND M CLASS DATA WILL BE REVISITED AT MOY TO MEASURE PROGRESS AND ADJUST SUPPORTS? THIS CONTINUOUS CYCLE OF ASSESSMENT AND REFLECTION DRIVES INSTRUCTIONAL IMPROVEMENT.
TEACHERS AND PLCS USE DATA WALLS AND MASTERY TRACKERS TO PERSONALIZE INSTRUCTION, SET GROWTH GOALS, AND PLAN TARGETED RETEACH CYCLES.
PARENT ENGAGEMENT IS STRENGTHENED THROUGH PROGRESS LETTERS AND CONFERENCES FOCUSED ON THREE KEY QUESTIONS.
HOW IS MY CHILD ACHIEVING? HOW IS MY CHILD GROWING? WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS? ALL OF THIS REINFORCES OUR GROWTH FOR ALL CULTURE, ENSURING THAT EVERY STUDENT IS EXPECTED AND SUPPORTED TO GROW.
PLEASE SEE THE LINKS TO VIEW THE CAMPUS SPECIFIC DATA.
THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME AND ATTENTION, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO DISCUSSING THESE RESULTS FURTHER AND ANSWERING ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
>> WELL DONE. I THINK YOU DID GREAT.
THAT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION IN LIKE FOUR OR FIVE MINUTES.
WE APPRECIATE THAT. TEAM, I'M LOOKING TO LOOK TO MY RIGHT, MR. VALA.
>> HI, MISS KINSLOW. WELCOME. THANK YOU FOR THE GREAT PRESENTATION.
IF WE LOOK AT ANY OF THE GRAPHS, SO I NOTE, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, WE'RE LOOKING AT YOU CAN GO BACK ONE MORE SLIDE. THERE YOU GO.
THE GRADE K, THE YELLOW, THAT'S JUST SHOWING EACH OF THOSE AS THEY PROGRESS, AND I KNOW YOU MENTIONED THAT WE WANT TO SEE GROWTH FROM THE BEGINNING TO THE END OF THE YEAR.
JUST A QUICK QUESTION BECAUSE IT CAUGHT MY ATTENTION, BUT ON THE LECTURA.
THOSE GRAPHS SEEM TO GO THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION OR AT LEAST A COUPLE OF THOSE AREAS.
ANY INSIGHT AS TO WHY THAT HAPPENED?
>> THE REASON THIS HAPPENS IS AS STUDENTS TRANSITION FROM SPANISH TO ENGLISH.
SOMETIMES THAT HAPPENS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE YEAR AND AT DIFFERENT TIMES, AND SO THOSE KIDS NO LONGER TAKE THAT ASSESSMENT.
THOSE DATASETS ARE NOT IDENTICAL THROUGHOUT TIME, AND THEY LESSEN OVER TIME.
IT OFTEN DWINDLES AS THE YEARS GO ON, AND SO THAT'S WHY WE SEE THAT DROP BECAUSE AS STUDENTS MASTER SPANISH, WE MOVE THEM INTO THE ENGLISH, AND SO THOSE ARE NOT SIMILAR DATA SETS YEAR OVER YEAR.
>> FOR EXAMPLE, '23/'24 BEGINNING OF YEAR END OF YEAR FOR KINDERGARTEN.
BUT THEN YOU LOOK AT GRADE 5 FOR THAT SAME SCHOOL YEAR, AND THAT WAS MORE THAN DOUBLE INCREASE.
>> IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE KID.
IT'S WHEN KIDS ARE READY TO MOVE THAT THEY MOVE THEM.
>> IS THIS THE ONLY SECTION THAT WORKS THAT WAY, SO MAYBE WE WANT TO ADD A LITTLE CAVEAT FOR FUTURE REPORTS THAT MAY NOT BE THE SAME.
IT'S NOT AN APPLES TO APPLES COMPARISON LIKE THE OTHER AREAS.
>> THAT'S ALL I GOT. THANK YOU.
I'M LOOKING AT THE LAKE DUTRA DATA NOW.
I DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND WHY KINDER STARTED WITH THE 74% AND DECREASED TREMENDOUSLY BECAUSE IN KINDER, YOU'RE NOT TRANSITIONING TO ENGLISH.
SO WHAT IS HAPPENING THERE? > I'LL HAVE TO LOOK INTO THE DATA AND REALLY SEE.
WHEN I TALK TO THEM ABOUT IT, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING?
>> YEAH. I HAVE A THEORY, MISS OROSCO.
GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. WE DO HAVE A TRANSITIONAL EARLY EXIT MODEL.
THAT COULD BE CONTRIBUTING TO THAT DECREASE.
AGAIN, YOU'RE NOT COMPARING APPLES TO APPLES BECAUSE YOU MIGHT HAVE FEWER KIDS ASSESSING IN SPANISH AT SECOND GRADE SO THOSE NUMBERS MAY VARY?
>> I'M JUST LOOKING AT KINDER.
>> I'M JUST LOOKING AT KINDER, 74-56% IS A HUGE DECREASE, AND WE DON'T HAVE THE TRANSITIONAL MODEL IN KINDER, THAT IS LATER.
SO THAT'S WHY I HAVE A WONDERING ABOUT THAT.
BUT IF YOU CAN LOOK INTO IT AND PROVIDE SOME INFORMATION,
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MAYBE A BREAKDOWN OF WHAT IS HAPPENING THERE.DO YOU SEE THIS AT EVERY CAMPUS OR IS IT SPECIFIC TO ONE CAMPUS? THAT'S ANOTHER QUESTION THAT I WOULD POSE IS IF YOU'RE SEEING A TREND WHERE IT'S JUST ONE CAMPUS THAT HAS THIS DECREASE DROPPING ALL THOSE NUMBERS DOWN, THEN MAYBE THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT.
ARE THEY USING THE SAME PROGRAM WITH FIDELITY AND SO ON?
>> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. I APOLOGIZE BECAUSE I MISUNDERSTOOD YOUR QUESTION.
>> NO PROBLEM. I PROBABLY WASN'T CLEAR, BUT I'M GLAD MR. VALA POINTED THAT OUT BECAUSE I AM WONDERING ABOUT THAT.
I CAN SEE YOUR SAMPLING SIZE HAVING SOME IMPACT, SO I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT THAT SAMPLING SIZE AS WELL.
WHEN YOU ARE SEEING THAT 42% GOING TO A 96% IN FIFTH GRADE, THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE WITH A SAMPLING SIZE.
BUT IN KINDER, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
YEAH, IF YOU ALL CAN PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION, I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
THEN THE OTHER QUESTION THAT I HAVE VERY QUICKLY, AND REFRESH MY MEMORY.
BUT I THOUGHT THAT PRE K ALSO DOES A BEGINNING OF THE YEAR INVENTORY.
I DIDN'T SEE ANY DATA ON PRE K.
THEY JUST FINISHED THAT LAST WEEK.
>> I'M WONDERING MAYBE FOR NEXT YEAR THAT WE DO THIS WHEN WE HAVE THE PRE K DATA AS WELL.
BECAUSE THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PART TO SEE IF THEY ARE TRACKING TO BE KINDER READY, BECAUSE THAT REALLY DOES SHOW THAT FOUNDATION OF SUCCESS THAT WE NEED FOR OUR STUDENTS.
MAYBE MISS GLORIA, WILL MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT MAYBE IN NOVEMBER IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET THAT PRE K DATA ON TIME FOR THIS PRESENTATION.
BUT YES, I AM INTERESTED IN SEEING THAT INFORMATION.
>> WE'LL GET THAT DATA TO YOU.
>> THEN TEAM REAL QUICK. THE SLIDES THAT YOU PRESENTED A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN THE SLIDES THAT WE HAVE.
WOULD YOU MIND SHARING THAT PRESENTATION WITH US BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE MISSING A BUNCH OF THE SLIDES.
>> I'M SORRY. I REWORKED IT A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE IT WAS VERY LONG.
I TRIED TO MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE. [LAUGHTER]
>> NO, IT'S FINE. WE COULD JUST GET YOURS THAT'D BE GREAT.
>> NO, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS INFORMATION.
I LOVE HOW WE ARE IN ONE COMMONALITY WHEN YOU VISIT CAMPUSES, IS THAT EVERYBODY'S GROWTH FOCUSED.
YOU ALWAYS HEAR PRINCIPALS, TEACHERS TALK ABOUT GROWTH.
WHAT MONTH IS THIS FIRST? IS THIS BEGINNING OF THE YEAR ASSESSMENT TAPE?
>> IN AUGUST. IT'S VERY EARLY.
>> YEAH. PLUS WE'RE USING A NEW THE ESA BLUEPRINT MODEL.
THIS IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT MODEL, WHICH MAY CAUSE SOME VARIATION IN SCORES AND PERFORMANCES.
LOOKING '24 '25 AS COMPARED TO '25 '26, THERE'S DEFINITELY GOING TO BE SOME VARIATION ESPECIALLY USING THIS NEW BLUEPRINT.
THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND.
ALSO THIS IS BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, KIDS ARE JUST COMING OFF SUMMER.
THEY HAVE SPENT THE SUMMER DOING WHAT KIDS LOVE TO DO.
THEY'RE COMING IN AND TAKING A MAP ASSESSMENT.
I'M REALLY INTERESTED IN SEEING THAT MIDDLE OF THE YEAR [OVERLAPPING] DATA.
I THINK WE'LL BE ABLE TO SEE JUST A BETTER LOOK ON WHERE KIDS ARE, HOW THEY ARE GROWING.
ALSO, I THINK IT'S REALLY INTERESTING TO SAY, WHAT'S THE TEACHER VIEW OF THIS? WE GET THIS DATA, WE LOOK AT IT.
WE CAN CERTAINLY COME UP WITH CONCLUSIONS, BUT A TEACHER LOOKS AT THIS DATA, AND THEY DECIDE THEY'RE GOING TO PULL SMALL GROUPS FOR CLASSES BASED ON THE CUSP KIDS, THE KIDS THAT ARE RIGHT ON THE LINE OF MOVING INTO THAT NEXT BUCKET.
CAN YOU JUST GO INTO A LITTLE BIT HOW A TEACHER LOOKS AT THIS DATA AND WHAT THAT PROCESS LOOKS LIKE.
>> SO FOR MCLASS, THEY HAVE PROGRESS MONITORING AND AMPLIFY, AND THEY'RE ABLE TO LOOK AT THE KIDS.
THEY HAVE LESSONS, AND THEY'RE INDIVIDUALIZED LIKE IN SMALL GROUP LESSONS THEY CAN DO.
THEN IT CONTINUALLY MOVES WITH THE KIDS AS THE STUDENTS PROGRESS WITH MCLASS AND [INAUDIBLE].
FOR MAP, IT DOESN'T HAVE THAT EXTRA PROGRAM WITH IT, BUT IT DOES HAVE TIES TO STAAR.
IT HAS A LINKING STUDY FOR STAAR.
SO WHEN THEY GO IN THEIR DASHBOARD, IF THEY'RE A STAAR TEACHER, THEY CAN SEE NOT ONLY WHAT MAP IS PREDICTING FOR THEIR GROWTH FOR THE YEAR.
BUT THEN ALSO WHAT PERFORMANCE LEVEL MAP IS PREDICTING THE STUDENT WILL BE AT THE END OF THE YEAR BASED ON THEIR RIT SCORE RIGHT NOW.
USING LAST YEAR'S CORRELATION, IT WAS ABOUT 60% DEAD ON AT MIDDLE OF THE YEAR, AND THEN 30% WE MOVED, WE WENT UP A LEVEL.
IT WAS PRETTY ACCURATE IN THEIR PREDICTIONS.
THE TEACHERS ARE ABLE TO DO THAT.
THERE'S A LEARNING CONTINUUM BUILT INTO MAP WHERE THEY TIE THE TEAKS TO THEIR RIT SCORES, SO THEY CAN SEE WHICH STUDENTS NEED ENRICHMENT IN THAT AREA,
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WHICH STUDENTS MIGHT NEED SOME PRE TEACH OR SOME SCAFFOLDING TO TO ACCESS TIER 1 SUPPORTS.IT HAS A LOT OF THINGS IN THE BUILT IN FOR THE TEACHERS.
>> THIS DATA IS GREAT AND I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THE TRE BECAUSE THAT'S DIFFERENT STORY, BUT CAN YOU JUST EXPLAIN HOW DIFFICULT IT IS FOR EVEN DATA TO BE UTILIZED BY A TEACHER IN AN INCREASED CLASS SIZE?
WE TRY VERY HARD TO HELP OUR TEACHERS.
WE'VE GOT OUR DATA WALLS THAT WE DO WITH THE TEACHERS TO HELP PULL THE DATA TOGETHER FOR THEM.
BUT THEY'RE USING THIS IN MULTIPLE DIFFERENT PLATFORMS. WHEN THEY HAVE A LOT OF STUDENTS, THEY'RE HAVING TO ORGANIZE THAT ALL TOGETHER AND REALLY MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE MEETING THE NEEDS OF THE KIDS AND USING THIS DATA IN THE RIGHT WAY.
IT'S JUST NOT A TEST THAT WE'RE TAKING JUST TO TAKE A TEST.
WE'RE USING THIS DATA, AND IT'S ACTIONABLE.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ANSWERING THIS AND PRESENTING ALL THIS DATA. I APPRECIATE IT.
>> YES, SIR. THANK YOU, MISS KINSLOW, FOR PRESENTING ALL THIS INFORMATION.
I KNOW HOW MUCH ALL THIS DATA IS DRIVING EVERY CONVERSATION HAPPENING ON EVERY CAMPUS.
HOW CRITICAL THIS IS TO UNDERSTANDING EXACTLY WHERE OUR STUDENTS ARE TODAY AND WHERE WE NEED TO GET THEM TO GO.
I GUESS I'LL START WITH WHAT I JUST WROTE DOWN, BUT ON THAT NOTE, I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THE COMPARISON SET FOR THE 50TH PERCENTILE, LIKE WHERE IT'S COME HERE.
IS A STATE THAT WE'RE COMPARING.
>> NATIONAL DATA SET? THAT BRINGS UP SO IT'S KINDER ACROSS THE BOARD.
SEES DROP, SO I'M CURIOUS AS TO HOW EVERYBODY ELSE IS ARE WE ALL CAPTURING DATA AT THE SAME POINT IN TIME? WE'RE MAYBE GETTING A LEG UP EARLIER AND SO OUR STUDENTS ARE PERFORMING EARLIER BECAUSE BASICALLY THIS IS GROWTH.
>> THIS RIGHT NOW IS ACHIEVEMENT, SO WE'LL LOOK AT GROWTH MORE.
>> WELL, BECAUSE THIS IS PERCENT AT THE 50TH PERCENTILE OR HIGHER.
SO IN TERMS OF WE HAVE 74% FOR WHAT'S UP THERE FOR KINDERGARTEN ARE AT THE 50TH PERCENTILE NATIONALLY OR HIGHER.
THEN WE DROP DOWN TO 56 PERCENTILE.
SO THAT OTHER DISTRICTS OR STUDENTS TAKING IT COULD BE GROWING. [OVERLAPPING]
>> AT A BETTER RATE THAN WHAT WE'RE GOING.
WHEN THEY'RE DOING THOSE ASSESSMENTS, MAY PLAY A PART AS TO WHY THAT MAY BE SOMEBODY IS CURIOUS.
BUT HOW WILL THESE BOY'S, MOY'S, AND EOY'S CHANGE BASED ON THE LEGISLATION CHANGES IN ESSENCE, HOW DO THESE TESTS COMPARE TO WHAT WE'RE SEEING WITH SR IN TERMS OF JUST FOR THE PUBLIC SAKE, IN TERMS OF THE LENGTH OF THE TEST, BOTH IN TERMS OF TIMING, NUMBER OF QUESTIONS THEY HAVE ON THEM, LEVEL OF COMPLEXITY, JUST BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S A FREQUENT QUESTION THAT PARENTS GET.
WE HAVE THREE ASSESSMENTS A YEAR INSTEAD OF ONE STAAR TEST.
JUST GOING TO SPEAK TO THAT A LITTLE BIT.
>> THESE TESTS ARE NORMATIVE BASED INSTEAD OF CRITERIA BASE.
THE BEAUTY OF A SCREENER IS THAT WE CAN SEE OUR OUTLIERS THAT WE CAN'T SEE IN A CRITERION BASED TEST.
THERE'S A CEILING AND A FLOOR ON A CRITERION BASED TEST.
OUR HIGH KIDS WILL GET 100 OR MAX OUT IN THE HIGH END, AND OUR LOW KIDS WILL GET A ZERO, LIKE IN THE LOW TEAMS. YOU DON'T REALLY LEARN A LOT ABOUT OUR OUTLIERS, OUR TOP AND OUR BOTTOM, BECAUSE THEY EITHER DO SUPER WELL WHERE THEY JUST SEEM LIKE THEY ACHIEVED EVERYTHING, OR THEY JUST DON'T KNOW.
BUT ON SCREENERS, BECAUSE THEY ARE ADAPTIVE AND THEY'RE NORM BASED, WE CAN ACTUALLY GET TO THE LEVEL OF WHERE THAT KID IS.
IT'S A DIFFERENT TYPE OF TEST.
THEY'RE MUCH SHORTER THAN STAAR, TOO.
MAP AVERAGE IS ABOUT 40 QUESTIONS BUT IN A SHORTER PERIOD OF TIME, THEY SAY ABOUT LIKE 70 MINUTES IS WHAT THEY AVERAGE.
IN MCLASS, I BELIEVE, IS MULTIPLE TESTS COMBINED, SO THEY DO IT OVER A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME.
IT'S A DIFFERENT TYPE OF TEST.
MAP IS SOMEWHAT LIKE STAAR WITH THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF QUESTIONING.
>> SO WE'RE ESSENTIALLY ONE CLASS BLOCK AT A TIME.
>> YEAH, THAT WE CAN GET IT COMPLETE FOR MOST STUDENTS.
>> WHICH WE WOULD NORMALLY BE DOING EVERY DAY ASSESSING OUR STUDENTS ANYWAYS AND SO THIS IS PART OF THE NORMAL PROCESS.
I DO REALLY LIKE STAYING LONGER WITHIN A CERTAIN TEAK AND JUST ASKING MORE COMPLEX QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT BECAUSE IT'S ALWAYS ONE OF MY CRITIQUES OF YOU GET ANY ASSESSMENT THEY'RE USING, AND THERE'S ONE QUESTION ON THAT ONE TEAK.
THEN THEY GO, YEAH, THAT STUDENTS MASTERED IT CHECK.
IT'S LIKE THEY COULD HAVE JUST GUESSED AND SO IT DOESN'T REALLY IT'S NOT AS INFORMATIVE AS YOU GOT THAT ONE RIGHT.
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LET'S GO A BIT FURTHER AND DIG DEEPER.DO THEY REALLY HAVE MASTERY OF THAT CONTENT OR NOT BEFORE WE CAN MOVE ON.
HOW WOULD YOU COMMENT ON THIS SYSTEM'S, YOU TOUCHED ON IT, SYSTEM'S ABILITY TO MORE ACCURATELY CAPTURE THAT STUDENT'S MASTERY LEVEL BASED ON THAT.
>> LIKE I SAID, I FEEL LIKE THESE TESTS ARE GREAT FOR OUTLIERS.
I THINK THERE'S A PLACE IN OUR ASSESSMENT WHERE WE NEED BOTH.
BECAUSE I THINK CRITERION BASED TESTS HELP US GET SKILL TO SKILL MORE SO THAN A SCREENER.
WE DO SEE MORE LIKE AN OVERALL ACHIEVEMENT IN A SCREENER.
WE'RE SEEING BROADER INSTRUCTIONAL AREAS.
WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT TEAKS WITHIN THAT AREA.
WE KNOW THEY'RE BROAD AREAS, BUT WE DON'T KNOW TECHNICALLY, IT WAS 4.3E THAT THEY DID REALLY WELL, AND WE KNOW THAT THEY DID REALLY WELL IN GEOMETRY OR WHATEVER.
TO GET TO THAT LEVEL, WE DO NEED CRITERION BASED TEST TOO.
WE NEED DIFFERENT TYPES OF TESTING IN OUR ASSESSMENT PROGRAM TO REALLY GET A FEEL FOR WHAT HOW OUR KIDS ARE DOING.
>> YEAH. THIS IS ALL JUST GREAT.
THIS IS THE BEGINNING WHERE WE'RE STARTING OFF FOR THIS YEAR, AND THEN WE'LL JUST MOVE FORWARD AND WE'LL KEEP GROWING.
I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING. THANK YOU.
>> GOOD EVENING, MISS KINSLOW. SO GOOD TO HAVE YOU.
IF YOU CAN GO TO THE SLIDE BEFORE THIS?
>> NO, ACTUALLY, IT'S THE MCLASS DIBELS PERCENTAGE. THERE WE GO.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME KINDER, FOR INSTANCE, I KNOW YOU EXPLAINED THE LAKE DUTRA SLIDE, BUT FOR KINDER, THE BEGINNING OF YEAR AND END OF YEAR, THERE WAS QUITE A BIT OF A DROP IN THERE AND THAT GROUP AS WELL.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY? WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT KINDER FOR BEGINNING OF YEAR, 44%, ACTUALLY NO WRONG.
>> [INAUDIBLE] I FIXED IT. I'M SORRY.
I SHOULD HAVE TOLD YOU, BARBARA AND I APOLOGIZE.
>> THIS IS THE CORRECT ONE ON THAT ONE.
THERE WAS A TYPO, I'M SORRY, BARBARA, MY BAD GUYS.
>> IT'S NOT CORRECT, THERE WASN'T A DROP?
>> THERE WAS NOT A DROP ON THAT ONE.
>> BECAUSE I THOUGHT IS PRETTY BIG.
>> GOING THROUGH IT AND I WAS LIKE.
>> THAT MAKES SENSE. IF YOU WILL DO ME A FAVOR, MISS KINSLOW, I KNOW THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE LISTENING WHEN THEY HEAR MOY AND BOY, THEY HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT.
WHEN YOU GUYS TALK ABOUT ACRONYMS, WILL YOU EXPLAIN WHAT THOSE ARE? I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND LET YOU EXPLAIN IT, EVEN THOUGH WE ALL KNOW IT.
>> BUT FOR THOSE LISTENING, I KNOW JEFF WAS OVER THERE SAYING MOY, AND I'M LIKE, [LAUGHTER] I HOPE EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT MOY MEANS. ANYWAYS, GO AHEAD.
>> YES. BOY IS BEGINNING OF THE YEAR SCREENERS, MOY, MIDDLE OF THE YEAR SCREENERS.
THEN I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE SAYS EOY.
>> MOST PEOPLE SAY EOY THERE BECAUSE IT SOUNDS WEIRD.
>> WELL, I WASN'T EVEN GO TO SAY IT IT SOUND.
>> I SOUND ODD WHEN I SAY IT, BUT END OF THE YEAR.
EDUCATION HAS TONS OF ACRONYMS AND WE DO GO IN AND OUT ON THOSE.
SO I APOLOGIZE. THANK YOU FOR APPOINTING THAT.
>> ARE THERE ANY OTHER ONES THAT ARE.
>> NO, THAT WAS THE SIDE THAT I FIXED, BUT IT WAS THAT YEAR, AND IT MAKES ME WONDER IF MAYBE BECAUSE I WENT BACK AND RERAN THAT DATA BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT WAS ODD.
BECAUSE SOMEONE ELSE HAD RUN THE DATA.
SO IT MAKES ME WONDER WHILE I WAS STANDING BACK THERE, I THOUGHT, I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE RERUN.
>> IT'S OKAY. I'M GLAD THAT I SAW IT.
>> IT'S NOT. IT WAS JUST SOMEONE HAD FLIP FLOPPED IN THE SLIDES THAT I TOOK IT FROM BECAUSE THAT WAS BEFORE ME.
I WAS LIKE THEY ALREADY HAVE IT, AND I TOOK IT, AND THEN I SAW IT AND I WAS I'M GOING TO RERUN THAT JUST.
>> WELL, THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT.
I LOOK FORWARD TO THE MIDDLE OF YEAR WHEN WE REALLY GET TO SEE A BIGGER PICTURE OF THE GROWTH AND WHERE WE ARE.
BUT IT'S ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO HAVE YOU AND THANK YOU FOR FILLING IN.
I KNOW YOUR INTERIM RIGHT NOW, SO I GREATLY APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK YOU'VE DONE. THANK YOU.
>> A COUPLE OF THINGS. GREAT JOB.
>>YOU GREAT. YOU CAN COME BACK ANY TIME.
I KNOW, WE'RE DOING AGENDA SETTING, I THINK I WAS LIKE ASKED WELL, WHY DON'T WE COMPARE THE BEGINNING OF YOUR LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR? HOW DO WE COMPARE? I KNOW A LOT OF THOSE APPLES AREN'T THE SAME.
I UNDERSTAND THAT. HERE'S MY OLIVE BRANCH QUESTION.
AS A DISTRICT, WE DO THESE THINGS, SO THEN WE KNOW OR THE TEACHERS CAN KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THE FOCUS IS GOING TO BE IF THERE'S SOME STUDENT THAT NEEDS WHATEVER.
FOR US, HOW ARE WE DOING COMPARED TO LAST YEAR AND STARTING OFF THE YEAR? BECAUSE I KNOW WE TRIED TO USE THESE TO BE REALLY INTENTIONAL AND STRATEGIC WHEN WE GO BACK IN THE MIDDLE OF THE YEAR. WHERE ARE WE LACKING? HOW ARE WE GOING TO ACTUALLY WHERE ARE WE GOT TO GO TO HELP GET THE KIDS WHERE THEY NEED TO BE? I KNOW THIS IS REALLY EARLY, BUT I MEAN, HOW DO WE FEEL LIKE WE'RE DOING COMPARED TO LAST YEAR, IF THAT'S A FAIR QUESTION?
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>> I CAN ANSWER THIS ONE. OVERALL, WE CAME THROUGH THE PANDEMIC BETTER THAN MOST DISTRICTS.
WHEN THEY RENORMED, WE SHIFTED TO THE RIGHT 7-10 POINTS ON AVERAGE.
I THINK IT WAS A SMALL GROUP, I THINK IT WAS THE INSTRUCTIONAL TUTORING, I THINK IT WAS THE INTERVENTIONS.
BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT PRE COVID AND POST COVID FOR BOTH MATH AND READING, WE SHIFTED TO THE RIGHT, ESPECIALLY IN READING ACTUALLY, WE SAW BIGGER GAINS.
WE CONTRIBUTE THAT TO THE OPEN COURT PHONICS THAT OUR KIDS HAD COMING THROUGH THE PANDEMIC.
THOSE KIDS ARE NOW IN FIFTH, SIX, SEVENTH GRADE.
WHEN THE PANDEMIC HIT, THEY WERE IN K1 AND 2, WE WEATHERED THE PANDEMIC BETTER THAN MOST DISTRICTS, ESPECIALLY IN READING.
ACROSS THE NATION EVERYBODY TOOK A MAJOR HIT IN MATHEMATICS, BUT WE'RE STARTING TO COME OUT OF IT EARLIER AND A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN OTHERS.
MAP WAS USING NORMS PRE 2020 AND SO IT WAS HARD TO MEASURE.
THEN WHENEVER WE RE RAN IT, THAT'S WHEN WE'RE IN THAT 55, 56, 57 RANGE, WHERE WE WERE IN THE 49, 50 RANGE.
IT WAS ABOUT 7-10 POINTS ON AVERAGE. THAT'S HOW WE'RE DOING?
>> WELL, I APPRECIATE YOU SAYING THAT WAS MY NEXT QUESTION TALKING ABOUT THE BOTTOM LINE WITH INTERPRETING CHANGES THAT REQUIRES CAUTION LIKE LEARNING LOSS, WHAT THE NET EFFECT WAS, BUT I THINK YOU JUST TOLD US THAT THE NET EFFECT IS WE CAME SO.
MY LAST QUESTION BEAR WITH ME.
IF YOU SAID THIS OR MENTIONED THIS I APOLOGIZE, BUT HOW COME ON THE NWEA MAP AND FOR KINDER THROUGH EIGHTH, WHY IS EIGHTH GRADE AND 11TH GRADE, WHY DO WE TAKE OUT STUDENTS IN ADVANCED COURSES? WHY DO WE TAKE THOSE KIDS OUT?
>> WELL, THE EIGHTH GRADE THEY'RE NOT TECHNICALLY TAKEN OUT, THEY'RE TAKING A DIFFERENT TEST.
THEY'RE TAKING THE ALGEBRA TEST WHICH IS NOT THE GROWTH TEST.
THEY CAN'T BE IN THE SAME DATA SET BECAUSE THEY'RE TAKING A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT TEST.
WE DO NOT TEST THE AP, THE DUAL CREDIT, AND THE ON RAMS KIDS BECAUSE THEY HAVE STRICT COURSE REQUIREMENTS WITH ACC OR WITH UT AND TAKING THE DAY OUT ITS THEM OFF THEIR SCHEDULE.
THEY DO NOT TEST IN THOSE TO KEEP THEM ON TRACK WITH THEIR SCHEDULES, BUT WE DO NOT TEST THOSE.
>> THAT MAKES SENSE. I APPRECIATE EXPLAINING THAT.
WELL, YOU'RE SERIOUS. WE'RE DOING ALRIGHT.
WE'RE DOING OKAY. MS. WINSELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR PRESENTING.
GREAT JOB. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE'RE GOING TO START ON PAGE 18.
CONSENT K1, ON PAGE 19 MINUTES.
[K. CONSENT AGENDA ]
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MINUTES? NO. ON K2A ON PROCUREMENTS, ON PAGE 27.THE CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE APPROVAL OF THE PURCHASE OF MICROSOFT PRODUCTS AND LICENSES, SOFTWARE HOUSE INTERNATIONAL.
TEAM, LOOK TO MY LEFT. ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE. MS. MINKO.
>> REAL QUICK QUESTION. WHEN YOU GUYS DO MICROSOFT UPDATES AND ALL OF THAT STUFF THAT GETS PUSHED OUT TO ALL OF OUR DEVICES, HOW DOES THAT HAPPEN ON THE STUDENT SIDE?
>> IT'S THE SAME AS THE EMPLOYEE SIDE.
WE PUSH IT OUT FROM SECURITY SERVICE TO ALL THE COMPUTERS AS THEY AUTHENTICATE ON THE NETWORK.
>> I MEAN, I GUESS, BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO HAVE THEIR COMPUTERS TURNED ON.
>> THE COMPUTERS ON AT ALL CAMPUSES DURING THE WEEK ESPECIALLY.
WE RUN NOT ONLY DO WE PUSH OUT UPDATES, BUT WE RUN FULL SYSTEM SCANS, STAGGERED ACROSS THE DISTRICT BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO RUN FULL SYSTEM MALWARE SCANS WHILE PEOPLE ARE WORKING BECAUSE IT SLOWS PERFORMANCE.
>> PERFECT. I JUST WANTED TO KNOW HOW IT WAS HANDLED ON THE STUDENT DEVICE SIDE.
>> TEAM. ANY OTHERS? ON THAT ONE? NO. ON K3 ON BUDGET AMENDMENTS, PAGE 31.
TO MY LEFT AND QUI, MR. SEIBEL.
>> MS. OMERS, CAN YOU JUST BRIEFLY EXPLAIN WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE WITH THIS AND JUST THE TIMING OF IT BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW?
>> YES, CERTAINLY. BUDGET AMENDMENT NUMBER 2, YOU'LL SEE IN THE THIRD COLUMN OVER.
YOU WILL NOTICE THAT THE REVENUE IS BEING INCREASED BY 29 MILLION IN THE GENERAL FUND, AND THE EXPENDITURES INCREASED BY NINE MILLION OR A PROPOSED NET INCREASE TO THE FUND BALANCE OF 20 MILLION.
THIS IS THE MONTH OF OCTOBER AND ON THE FOURTH FRIDAY OF OCTOBER,
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WE HAVE WHAT IS CALLED SNAPSHOT WHERE WE CAPTURE DATA AND REMIT THAT TO TEA.WHEN WE ARE EVALUATED ON FOR SCHOOLS FIRST, THE FINANCIAL INTEGRITY RATING SYSTEM, THEY LOOK AT OUR BUDGET AS OF THE END OF OCTOBER, COMPARED TO OUR ACTUAL NUMBERS THAT HAPPEN A WHOLE YEAR LATER IN OCTOBER.
EVEN THOUGH WE DO BUDGET AMENDMENTS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, THOSE ARE THE TWO NUMBERS THEY LOOK AT.
IF WE ARE NOT WITHIN THE RANGE THEY FEEL, WE NEED TO BE OR THAT OUR BUDGETS ARE HIGH ENOUGH, WE GET DIGGED ON THAT.
EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE NOT FINISHED THE TRE ELECTION AND WE DO NOT KNOW THE RESULTS OF THE TRE, I HAVE PUT THE BUDGET IN THERE FOR THAT REASON BECAUSE WE WILL BE EVALUATED ON THAT.
IF THE TRE DOES NOT PASS, YOU WILL SEE IT COME OUT AGAIN IN THE NEXT MONTH.
BUDGETS ALWAYS HAVE TO BE HIGH ENOUGH.
IT'S OKAY IF THEY'RE TOO HIGH AS LONG AS YOU'RE NOT OVER SPENDING THE MONEY.
A LITTLE BIT OF A TRICKY SITUATION.
YOU WILL NOTICE OVER TO THE RIGHT ON THAT.
THAT'S ON PAGE 32, WHICH I THINK THE PAGE NUMBER WAS COVERED OVER.
IT BEGINS ON PAGE 31 AND THEN THE GRAPH IS ON PAGE 32.
YOU'LL SEE THAT I BROKE IT OUT INTO THE COLUMNS.
THAT'S WHERE YOU'LL SEE THE SIX MILLION THAT WE'VE PUT IN THERE TO COVER INCREASES IN SALARIES, PLUS SOME OTHER SHORTFALLS THAT WE HAD IN THE BUDGET.
IF THE TRE PASSES, WE MAY STILL SEE SOME CHANGES FROM FUNCTION TO FUNCTION BECAUSE THIS IS AN ESTIMATE AT THIS POINT IN TIME BECAUSE IT'S ALL VERY EARLY.
ALL OF THE OTHER ADJUSTMENTS TO THE BUDGET ARE EQUAL REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE. NO NET EFFECT.
THE NET EFFECT WOULD BE SIX MILLION INTO THE EXPENDITURES AND 20 MILLION INTO THE FUND BALANCE AND NO CHANGES ON THE DEBT SERVICE OR THE SCHOOL NUTRITION FUND IN THE BUDGET.
>> THANK YOU, MS. OMERS. JUST TO PIGGY BACK OFF JEFF'S QUESTION.
IF THE TRE ELECTIONS TURNS IF IT DOES PASS, HOW DOES THIS HELP US RETROACTIVELY GO BACK AND APPLY THESE FUNDS IN A WAY THAT WE'VE PUBLICIZED THINGS WE WOULD DO IF THIS TRE PASSES.
HOW DOES THIS ALLOW US TO DO THAT IN ORDER TO BUDGET FOR THIS NOW?
>> HOW DOES THE BUDGET AMENDMENT ALLOW FOR THIS?
>> YES TO DO THIS NOW CONSIDERING OBVIOUSLY, WE DON'T KNOW WHICH WAY THE TRE ELECTION IS GOING TO GO, HOW DOES THIS HELP US RETROACTIVELY GO AND DO THINGS?
>> WELL, WE'RE NOT SPENDING ANY OF THIS MONEY YET? WE'RE JUST GETTING IT IN THE BUDGET IN TIME FOR THE CAPTURE THAT WE HAVE TO DO FOR TEA.
AS FAR AS THE MAJORITY OF THE SPEND WOULD BE THE SALARY INCREASES THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT AS PART OF THAT SIX MILLION PLUS SOME OF THE SHORTFALLS IN THE BUDGET THAT WE'VE HAD.
THE 20 MILLION WOULD NOT BE BUDGETED AT THIS POINT.
IT WOULD JUST SIT THERE TO INCREASE THAT FUND BALANCE TO HELP US GET BACK TO THOSE THREE MONTHS OF FUND BALANCE.
>> THANK YOU FOR BEING PROACTIVE AND GETTING THAT ON THE BOOKS, SO WE DON'T GET DINGED AGAIN FOR THE NEXT YEAR'S I'LL REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE CADENCE IN WHICH THIS ALL GOES INTO PLACE.
IF THE TRE PASSES IN NOVEMBER, THEN OUR NOVEMBER BOARD MEETING, WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO DO A BUDGET AMENDMENT THEN AND THEN ALSO DO A COMP PLAN ADJUSTMENT? WE CAN JUST DO I MEAN, WHATEVER WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO, WE DON'T HAVE TO DO IT TWICE IN THE MEETING OR WAIT TILL DECEMBER.
I APPRECIATE YOU JUST PUTTING THIS STUFF ON THE FOUR BEING AHEAD OF IT.
THEN WHEN WE GET TO THAT TIME, THEN WE'RE JUST NOT HAVING TO BACKTRACK.
>> YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. THE CADENCE HAS BEEN A LITTLE CHALLENGING WITH ALL OF THIS.
>> WELL, WE KNOW IT AND WE'RE GLAD YOU'RE HERE TO HELP US THROUGH IT, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.
TEAM, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO K 4.
THIS IS OUR DISTRICT IMPROVEMENT PLAN ON PAGE 33.
TEAM LOOK TO MY RIGHT. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS OR MY LEFT?
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>> I BELIEVE THAT THERE'S STILL ANOTHER SMALL REVISION TO THIS COMING THAT'LL BE FOR US FOR NEXT WEEK.
>> GREAT. THANK YOU. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO OUR ACTION ITEMS NOT FOR TONIGHT, BUT FOR THE 27TH, BUT FOR THE ACTION ITEMS FOR OUR AGENDA ITEM L1 ON PAGE 86.
[L.1. Consideration and possible approval of Class Size Exceptions]
SKIP A BUNCH OF PAGES HERE.THIS IS THE CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE APPROVAL OF A CLASS SIZE OF CLASS SIZE EXCEPTIONS.
WELCOME TO THE PODIUM, MS. CORSON.
>> GOOD EVENING, MR. PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD AND SUPERINTENDENT WRIGHT.
A SCHOOL DISTRICT MUST SUBMIT A REQUEST FOR A CLASS SIZE EXCEPTION FOR ANY PRE K THROUGH FOURTH GRADE CLASSROOM EXCEEDING 22 STUDENTS ACCORDING TO THE TEXAS EDUCATION CODE.
THIS CLASS SIZE REQUIREMENT APPLIES THROUGHOUT THE SCHOOL YEAR, EXCEPT FOR ANY 12 WEEK PERIOD SELECTED BY THE DISTRICT WITH A SIGNIFICANT PERCENTAGE OF MIGRATORY STUDENTS.
TYPICALLY FOR US, THE FIRST 12 WEEKS.
THEN THE LAST 12 WEEKS OF ANY SCHOOL YEAR.
WE ARE COMING TOWARDS THE END OF THAT 12 WEEK PERIOD AND IT'S TIME FOR US TO COME TO YOU WITH AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE ON CLASS SIZES, WHERE WE DO EXCEED THE 22:1 RATIO THAT THE DISTRICT FOLLOWS.
THE DISTRICT WHEN IT'S STAFFED FOR THIS YEAR, STAFFED FOR ELEMENTARY 3K THROUGH FOURTH GRADE ON A 22:1 RATIO.
THIS IS A RATIO THAT WE VALUE AND HAVE HISTORICALLY BEEN ABLE TO PROTECT.
THIS YEAR, DUE TO REVENUE SHORTFALLS BY THE STATE, WE'VE NOT HAD THE FLEXIBILITY WITH ADDING ADDITIONAL STAFF THAT WE'VE HAD IN YEARS PAST AS HAS BEEN THE PRACTICE AND COMMITMENT OF THIS DISTRICT UP UNTIL THIS POINT.
AS A RESULT OF THE REVENUE SHORTFALL, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING HARD TO REALLY TAKE A LOOK AT EVERY SINGLE CLASSROOM AND TRYING TO FOLLOW STUDENT ENROLLMENT, TRYING TO SEE WHERE PERHAPS WE DIDN'T HAVE AS MANY STUDENTS SHOW UP AS WE ANTICIPATED, ACCORDING TO THE DEMOGRAPHER AND WHERE WE WERE SURPRISED BEYOND THE DEMOGRAPHERS PROJECTIONS.
TO DATE, WE HAVE LEVELED 16 TEACHERS TO MAXIMIZE OUR RESOURCES AND TO BE AS EFFICIENT AS POSSIBLE WITH OUR TEACHERS AND TO DO THIS BECAUSE WE KNOW IT'S BEST FOR STUDENTS.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE STILL HAVE CLASSES WHERE WE DO EXCEED THE 22:1 RATIO IN MOST CASES BY ONE STUDENT AND SOME BY TWO.
AT THIS TIME, WE HAVE 23 CLASSES THAT ARE PRE K THROUGH FOURTH GRADE CLASSES THAT WOULD REQUIRE A CLASS SIZE WAIVER, WHICH IS AN ACTION ITEM THAT WILL BE BEFORE YOU NEXT WEEK.
I HAVE SHARED WITH YOU LAST WEEK A LIST OF NAMES OF TEACHERS, SPECIFICALLY THEIR LOCATIONS AND BY HOW MANY THEY ARE OVER.
THAT IS JUST A SNAPSHOT BECAUSE WE CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THAT AND WE'LL HAVE AN UPDATED LIST IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETING ON MONDAY AND MY DESIRE IS TO HAVE THAT TO YOU BY FRIDAY.
THAT YOU WILL KNOW VERY SPECIFICALLY, CAUSE IN SOME CASES, THEY DROP OFF.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, TODAY, I FOUND OUT THAT THERE WAS ONE THAT WENT BACK TO 22-1, AND THAT'S A GOOD THING, AND SOMETIMES THAT HAPPENS.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET IT RIGHT WHEN WE BRING THAT FINAL LIST, BUT WE'LL CERTAINLY PUBLISH THAT FOR YOU ON FRIDAY.
>> WHAT QUESTIONS DO YOU HAVE OF ME?
>> THANK YOU, MS. CORSON. MY RIGHT, MS. WACKLE.
THANK YOU FOR PROVIDING THE WAIVER INFO THAT YOU'VE POSTED ON BOARD BLOG.
I HAVE A QUESTION, I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO INDIVIDUAL TEACHERS.
>> BUT I WILL ASK, CAN YOU EXPLAIN HOW YOU CAME UP WITH THE SUMMATIVE SCORING ON THESE?
>> THAT IS A REFLECTION OF THEIR T-TEST SCORES.
>> WHEN YOU GIVE US THIS REPORT, BASICALLY, YOU'RE JUST SHOWING US WHERE THEY'VE TESTED, WHERE THEIR CERTIFICATION IS, THE NUMBER OF YEARS OF EXPERIENCE.
BASICALLY JUST SHOWING US A FULL SNAPSHOT OF THIS TEACHER AND WHY SHE CAN HANDLE OR HE 23:1.
>> THAT IS CORRECT. I'VE PROVIDED THAT TO THE BOARD
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BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THAT'S INFORMATION THAT YOU'VE BEEN INTERESTED IN WHEN WE'VE DONE OUR K-4 CAPACITY INCENTIVE WAIVERS.WE'RE FOLLOWING THE SAME PATTERN WHERE WE DON'T WANT TO ASSIGN EXTRA STUDENTS TO BRAND NEW TEACHERS.
NOR DO WE WANT TO ASSIGN STUDENTS TO TEACHERS WHO WERE DEVELOPING IN ANY AREAS THE PREVIOUS YEAR, OR ARE ON ANY GROWTH PLANS.
THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE CANNOT CONTROL, FOR EXAMPLE, WHAT THE LEGISLATURE CHOOSES TO DO FOR FUNDING.
BUT THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE WITHIN OUR CONTROL, AND THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE'RE IN COMMUNICATION WITH PRINCIPALS AS WE CONTINUE TO NAVIGATE THE SCHOOL YEAR IN OUR CURRENT CIRCUMSTANCES.
>> WELL, I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THIS INFORMATION.
I KNOW THAT IT SEEMS LIKE EVERY TIME WE GET IT, IT CONTINUES TO GROW THE LIST, BUT I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU.
I KNOW THAT YOU AND CNI WORK REALLY HARD TOGETHER TO ENSURE THAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE CLASSROOM AND NOT JUST THE NUMBER OF KIDS, BUT ALSO THE MAKEUP OF THE CLASSROOM, STUDENTS, AND SUPPORTS THAT ARE AVAILABLE OR NEED TO BE AVAILABLE.
THANK YOU. I KNOW THIS IS HARD.
BUT THIS IS ALSO INCREASED CLASS SIZES.
THIS COULD BE A REALITY, TOO, AND NOT JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE STUDENTS ENROLLING.
WHILE WE LIKE TO STAY THAT LOWER NUMBER OF STUDENTS IN A CLASSROOM, I UNDERSTAND WHY WE DO THIS, BUT ALSO THAT WE MAY BE SEEING MORE OF THIS.
HOPEFULLY NOT. BUT IT'S DEFINITELY A POSSIBILITY. THANK YOU.
>> HI, MS. CORSON, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS ITEM.
I HAD PUT IN A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, AND YOU ANSWERED ONE OF THEM.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH WITH THE 23 CLASSES.
WHEN I ORIGINALLY READ THIS, THIS WAS A LITTLE MORE GENERIC THAN I'M USED TO SEEING.
ONE OF MY THOUGHTS WAS, ARE WE GETTING TO A PLACE WHERE WE HAVE TO HAVE A 24:1 BLANKET WAIVER FOR OUR DISTRICT? IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE IT, BASED ON WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, AND I APPRECIATE THE CARE AND KEEPING FROM JUST EXPLODING CLASSROOMS AND UNDERSTANDING THAT SOME TEACHERS ARE NEW.
SOME TEACHERS ARE GOING THROUGH SOME THINGS.
SOME TEACHERS ARE MAYBE ON A GROWTH PLAN AND ARE WORKING TO IMPROVE SOME THINGS.
WE MAY NOT ALWAYS HAVE THAT LUXURY, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT TRUSTEE RUNKLE WAS TRYING TO GET AT AND WAS SAYING.
>> I KNOW THAT IF THE TRE DOESN'T PASS, WE'LL DEFINITELY BE THERE.
BUT I WOULD NOT BE OPPOSED TO THAT IF YOU HAD TO SAY, LOOK, I'M HAPPY TO GIVE YOU A REPORT, BUT WE'RE AT A PLACE WHERE WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO PUSH THESE RATIOS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE FUNDING.
WE'D RATHER DO THIS THAN SOMETHING MORE DIRE.
WE'RE STILL DOING THE K-4 CAPACITY INCENTIVE FOR NOW?
>> NO, WE SUSPENDED THAT THIS YEAR AS A RESULT OF THE CURRENT FINANCIAL SITUATION.
>> AT SOME POINT, WE MAY GET TO A PLACE WHERE A BLANKET WAIVER IS WHAT WE NEED TO DO.
BUT I WOULD APPRECIATE THE CARE AND KEEPING OF NOT JUST EXPLODING CLASSROOMS, BUT I'M NOT SURE WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GIVE TEACHERS THIS CHOICE FOREVER.
>> WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE INTENTIONAL WITH WHAT WE DO IN TERMS OF STAFFING AND RATIOS.
BUT YES, DEPENDING ON THE OUTCOME OF THE TRE, WE MAY BE HAVING VERY DIFFERENT CONVERSATIONS IN THE FUTURE.
>> WELL, THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME KNOW.
I DON'T EVEN WANT TO ASK ABOUT RATIOS BEYOND FOURTH GRADE, SO I WILL NOT.
BUT THANK YOU FOR THIS INFORMATION.
>> THANK YOU AGAIN FOR PROVIDING THIS.
OVERALL, THIS IS A PRETTY TERRIBLE SITUATION, OVERALL, AND NONE OF US REALLY WANT TO BE IN THIS POSITION.
OBVIOUSLY, THE STATE RECOMMENDATION IS 22:01, BUT LOGIC TELLS YOU THAT THE LOWER THAT RATIO IS, THE MORE EFFECTIVE LEARNING ENVIRONMENT WE PROVIDE FOR OUR STUDENTS, THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A SWEET SPOT IN THERE AS TO WHAT THAT NUMBER REALLY LOOKS LIKE EFFICIENTLY.
BUT IT ALWAYS JUST DEPENDS ON THAT ACTUAL STUDENT.
WHO IS THAT NUMBER 23 THAT COMES INTO THE CLASSROOM? GENERAL CONCERN IS, WE'RE SEEING MORE AND MORE BEHAVIORAL ISSUES AT THE ELEMENTARY LEVEL POST-COVID.
THE LIKELIHOOD OF STUDENTS 19, 20, 21, 22 ADDING TO THE BEHAVIORAL COMPLEXITIES IN A CLASSROOM JUST
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INCREASES THAT OVERALL LEARNING ENVIRONMENT ISSUES AT THIS LEVEL.NOT GREAT THAT WE'RE IN THE POSITION, BUT IT'S A POSITION WE'RE IN.
I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER WOULD BE FOR THIS, BUT DO WE PROVIDE ANY ADDITIONAL SUPPORT TO ANY OF THESE STAFF MEMBERS BASED ON A HIGHER CLASS LOAD?
>> AS A MATTER OF FACT, SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT I'VE HAD WITH SOME PRINCIPALS, FOR EXAMPLE, THERE'S ONE PRINCIPAL THAT HAS STUDENT TEACHERS ON THE CAMPUS.
IN A COUPLE OF THESE THAT ARE OVER, THERE'S A STUDENT TEACHER IN THERE WITH THAT TEACHER.
I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH ANOTHER PRINCIPAL WHO IS LOOKING TO USE SOME CAMPUS FUNDS TOWARDS A TEMPORARY GUEST TEACHER OR GUEST PERA TO PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL SUPPORT FOR A TIME PERIOD.
OUR PRINCIPALS ARE BEING VERY CREATIVE.
USING THEIR AVAILABLE RESOURCES AND FUNDS ON THE CAMPUS TO TRY TO LEVERAGE AND TO PROVIDE SUPPORT.
WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO REACH OUT TO LEARN WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND MAYBE SHARE THAT WITH OTHERS, IF THAT'S HELPFUL, BECAUSE WE'RE AT THAT POINT NOW.
WHAT IF YOU FOUND HELPFUL, WE DID THIS, AND I THINK THAT JUST SHARING THAT INFORMATION IS GOING TO BE HELPFUL.
>> I KNOW HOW MUCH THEY COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER AND TRYING TO MAKE SURE BEST PRACTICES ACROSS THE BOARD, AND WE HAVE A REALLY SMART GROUP OF ELEMENTARY PRINCIPALS THAT HAVE VERY CREATIVE SOLUTIONS TO PROBLEMS.
>> IT'S GREAT THAT THEY'RE COMING UP WITH CREATIVE SOLUTIONS TO THIS, BECAUSE I KNOW AS A TEACHER, ONCE YOU GET SETTLED INTO THE CLASSROOM, AND YOU'RE LIKE I HAVE MY GROUP, I'M READY TO GO, AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, ONE MORE STUDENT, IT DOESN'T EVEN MATTER WHO THAT STUDENT IS OR WHATEVER.
IT [INAUDIBLE] ANOTHER LEVEL OF ANXIETY AND STRESS, AND SO IT'S DIFFICULT, BUT I KNOW EVERYBODY IS DOING THEIR BEST TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PLACING THE STUDENTS IN THE RIGHT ENVIRONMENT FOR EVERYBODY TO LEARN AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
>> MS. CORSON, I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THE INTENTIONALITY BEHIND BRINGING THIS TO US.
I'M NEVER OKAY WITH A BLANK BLANKET WAIVER.
NO. WE NEED TO SAY THEIR NAMES.
WE NEED TO SAY THE CLASS SIZES.
IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT AND MAKING SURE THAT OUR COMMUNITY IS AWARE OF THAT.
IF THE TRE DOESN'T PASS, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE SOME HARD DECISIONS AND HAVE HARD CONVERSATIONS.
BUT IN THE MEANTIME, WE NEED TO KEEP SAYING 23 CLASSES ARE BEING IMPACTED BY IT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF OUR FUNDING SOURCE.
IT IS GOING TO IMPACT X AMOUNT.
I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.
I APPRECIATE YOU BEING VERY INTENTIONAL ABOUT THAT, AND I WANT TO CONTINUE HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND MAKING SURE IT COMES TO US AND SAYING IT LOUD AND CLEAR.
THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY THAT WE HAVE WITH THE TRE TO SUPPORT SOME OF THIS.
HOPEFULLY, PEOPLE WILL TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE VOTING PERIOD.
A QUESTION I DO HAVE IS, WHAT SUPPORT ARE WE MAKING SURE IS IN PLACE TO HAVE THE NECESSARY EQUIPMENT, WHETHER IT IS MAKING SURE THEY HAVE ENOUGH DESK IN THE CLASSROOM, ENOUGH CHAIRS, ENOUGH SEATING, ENOUGH SPACE TO MANEUVER THROUGHOUT, ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE STUDENTS THAT MIGHT NEED THAT EXTRA SPACE TO MANEUVER, MAYBE A WHEELCHAIR, WHAT HAVE YOU WHEN YOU HAVE SO MANY STUDENTS IN A CLASSROOM? YOU DON'T HAVE TO RESPOND RIGHT NOW, BUT IF YOU CAN ALSO PROVIDE WHAT TYPE OF MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE THE SUPPORT SYSTEMS IN PLACE, NOT ONLY THROUGH HAVING A PAIR OR WHAT HAVE YOU, BUT MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE THOSE HARD FIXTURES, IF YOU WILL, FOR THEM.
I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE REALLY IMPORTANT.
THAT IMPACT, OF WHERE, WHEN DO WE SAY, WELL, THIS IS GOING TO BE CLOSED, AND NOW YOU'RE GOING TO ANOTHER CAMPUS.
TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT THRESHOLD AS WELL.
I THINK THAT'S ANOTHER IMPORTANT PIECE FOR OUR COMMUNITY TO UNDERSTAND THAT ONCE THESE CLASSES GET TO A CERTAIN NUMBER, THEN WE SHUT DOWN THOSE CAMPUSES AS WE HAVE IN THE PAST, AND THEY WILL BE MOVING TO A DIFFERENT CAMPUS IF THE ROOM IS NOT AVAILABLE THERE.
CAN YOU TALK JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT?
>> YES. TIM ROBINSON HAS BEEN IN CLOSE CONVERSATION WITH PRINCIPALS, AS WELL AS DAOS, KEEPING TRACK, KEEPING PULSE OF THE ENROLLMENT, AND ALREADY HAVING THOSE DISCUSSIONS OF AT WHAT POINT DO WE CAP IT OVERFLOW?
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WHAT WILL THAT LOOK LIKE? ALSO, UNDERSTANDING THAT ALSO MEANS TRANSPORTATION AND SOME OTHER IMPACTS.THOSE ARE CONVERSATIONS THAT ARE UNDERWAY, AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE FOR YOU ON THE POTENTIAL PLANS FOR THAT.
>> I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL, BUT JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE LOUD AND CLEAR WITH OUR COMMUNITY THEM UNDERSTANDING THE RAMIFICATIONS OF OUR FINANCIAL SITUATION AND WHAT CAN HAPPEN IF OUR TRE DOES NOT PASS.
I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO BE VERY TRANSPARENT BECAUSE AGAIN, THE TIME IS NOW TO REALLY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THOSE CHANGES, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MOVE IN A POSITIVE DIRECTION, BECAUSE AFTER THE TRE, AFTER VOTING ENDS, WE NO LONGER HAVE THAT LUXURY.
IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO BE LOUD AND CLEAR, AND HOPEFULLY OUR PTAS WILL BE COMMUNICATING THIS AS WELL.
I KNOW SEVERAL OF US BOARD MEMBERS HAVE BEEN, I THINK ALL OF US ACTUALLY HAVE GONE TO PTA MEETINGS TO TALK ABOUT THIS.
JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE LOUD AND CLEAR AND TRANSPARENT WITH OUR COMMUNITY ABOUT WHAT IT MEANS, IF IT DOESN'T PASS WITH CLASS SIZE WAIVERS, CLOSING DOWN CAMPUSES IN THE SENSE OF CLOSING GRADE LEVELS, A TEACHER, AND MOVING THEM TO A DIFFERENT CAMPUS.
THAT'S AN IMPORTANT DISTINCTION, AND WE'VE DONE IT BEFORE WHERE WE NEEDED TO, AND JUST TO BE CLEAR WITH OUR COMMUNITY OF WHAT IT CAN LOOK LIKE FOR THEIR STUDENT, EVEN THOUGH THEY MOVED IN TO A CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOOD, TO GO TO A FEEDER PATTERN, THEY MIGHT BE THERE A LITTLE BIT TOO LATE, AND WE MIGHT HAVE THAT CLASSROOM CLOSED OFF OR THAT GRADE LEVEL CLOSED OFF ALREADY. THANK YOU.
>> YES, THANK YOU, CHRISTINA, FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD.
I MEAN, I REMEMBER WHEN THE K-4 INCENTIVE CAME FORWARD, AND THEN IT WAS OBVIOUSLY SUSPENDED.
BUT THANK YOU, TRUSTEE PETRIE AND TRUSTEE ROSCO, FOR BRINGING UP THE IDEA OF A BLANKET WAIVER.
WE KNOW WE DON'T WANT TO GET THERE, BUT I'M REALLY INTERESTED TO KNOW HOW THAT PROCESS WORKS, ESPECIALLY IF THIS BECOMES THE NORM.
BUT CAN YOU REMIND JUST FOR THOSE WATCHING, THE RECOMMENDED RATIO FOR ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IS 22:1.
FOR SECONDARY CLASSROOMS, CAN YOU REPEAT THAT NUMBER JUST SO PEOPLE LISTENING CAN UNDERSTAND?
>> AT THIS TIME, FOR SECONDARY, WE ARE STAFFED AT 28:1.
>> 28:1. CORRECT. MR. CLEAVER, I'M NOT GOING TO PUT YOU ON SPOT, NO, YOU'RE NOT UP WITH THE MIC RIGHT NOW.
BUT I AM INTERESTED TO KNOW THE CAPACITY OF CLASSROOMS AT JUST A STANDARD CLASSROOM AT OUR CAMPUSES.
WHAT THOSE CLASSROOMS WHAT THE CAPACITY IS, HOW MANY KIDS CAN WE ACTUALLY FIT IN THERE? I KNOW THERE'S, AND THANK YOU, TRUSTEE ROSCO, FOR ASKING ABOUT DESK AND RESOURCES, BECAUSE WHEN PARENTS HEAR LARGE CLASSROOMS AND MORE KIDS, THEY HAVE THIS VISION, PERHAPS OF KIDS, OBVIOUSLY, NOT HAVING A PLACE TO SIT, ETC.
IT WOULD BE GREAT TO KNOW JUST WHAT THE STANDARD CAPACITY IS AT OUR CAMPUSES.
I KNOW THERE MIGHT BE SOME VARIATION.
BUT AS WAS MENTIONED, WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO GET TO THAT.
WE TOUCHED ON WHEN WE WERE GOING OVER THE STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT REPORT EARLIER ON THE DIFFICULTIES THAT TEACHERS CAN BE PUT IN WHEN YOU'RE PULLING SMALL GROUPS AND TRYING TO PROVIDE THAT INDIVIDUALIZED INSTRUCTION THAT LARGE CLASSROOMS CAN CERTAINLY GIVE YOU PUT YOU IN A DIFFICULT SITUATION AS AN EDUCATOR.
BUT I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW THAT INFORMATION.
THANK YOU, SECRETARY SEIBEL, BUT THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD.
>> HEY, MS. CORSON, THANK YOU. AGAIN, YES, TO ECHO EVERYBODY'S SENTIMENTS.
HAVE WE ENGAGED OUR TEACHER WORK GROUPS AS FAR AS WE'RE 16 DAYS AWAY FROM FINDING OUT THE RESULTS OF THE ELECTION.
I MEAN, IT'S ALMOST LIKE ONE OF THOSE CHOOSE-YOUR-OWN-ADVENTURE BOOKS.
THERE'S PROBABLY A BOOK FAIR GOING ON SOMEWHERE.
OPTION 1 IS THIS, AND HERE'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE MOVING FORWARD IN 16 DAYS, OR OPTION 2 IS THIS, AND HERE'S WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE.
I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OUR ADMINISTRATORS, BUT ARE WE TALKING TO OUR TEACHER WORK GROUPS AS WELL? I'M LOOKING AT DR. WRIGHT, AS WELL, BECAUSE I'M SURE WE'VE HAD.
>> WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM, AND RIGHT NOW, I KNOW THEY ARE OUT AND EDUCATING PEOPLE AS WELL ABOUT THE NEED FOR THE TAX RATIFICATION ELECTION.
BUT LIKE WE'VE TOLD EVERYBODY, EACH ONE OF OUR AUDIENCES, WE REALLY HAVEN'T LOOKED AT WHAT THE CUTS WILL BE YET, BECAUSE I WANT TO SEE IF IT PASSES OR NOT, AND I DON'T WANT TO SPREAD FEAR UNNECESSARILY.
THE DAY AFTER, IF IT DOESN'T PASS, THEN WE'LL START ANALYZING THAT, BUT WE'LL GET THEIR INPUT THROUGHOUT THAT PROCESS.
>> YES. I APPRECIATE THAT APPROACH, DR. WRIGHT, I MEAN, DEFINITELY NOT.
I DON'T BELIEVE FEAR IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO PROMOTE FROM THE DICE BY ANY MEANS.
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AGAIN, WE'RE 16 DAYS AWAY FROM KNOWING WHICH FOOT IS GOING TO DROP FIRST.THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT YES, WE'VE ENGAGED OUR TEACHER WORK GROUPS.
I KNOW WE'VE LOOKED AT ADMINISTRATORS.
WE'VE LOOKED AT THINGS JUST FROM ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENTS.
FAMILIES, GET OUT THERE, MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD. THANK YOU.
>> MISS ROSCO, THIS IS NOT OUR OPTIMAL, WHAT WE WANT TO DO, BUT LOTS OF WRITING ON GOING TO HAPPEN IN NOVEMBER 2. EVERYONE'S POINT UP HERE.
LET'S EARN THE VOTING SORT TODAY.
LET'S GET OUT THERE NOVEMBER 4 AND LET'S CAST OUR VOTES.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MISS ROSCO. I APPRECIATE IT.
>> LET'S MOVE ON TO ACTION ITEM L2 ON PAGE 88.
[L.2. Consideration and possible approval of the purchase of Library Books]
ONE THING TO KEEP IN MIND, THIS IS A NEW CADENCE FOR US WITH SB12, WHERE NOW BOARDS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO VOTE ON THE PURCHASE OF LIBRARY BOOKS.WE'VE ALL RECEIVED AN EXHAUSTIVE LIST OF THIS, AND WE'VE GONE THROUGH A LITTLE BIT, BUT I'D LIKE TO PASS THIS OFF TO DR. WRIGHT REAL QUICK TO JUST GO THROUGH.
WE'VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF THIS ALREADY.
THIS IS JUST NOW THE BOARD HAS TO VOTE ON IT, BUT RUN THROUGH OUR WHOLE PROCESS BEFORE, HOW WE'VE BEEN DOING IT.
>> ABSOLUTELY, I'LL GIVE YOU A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW AND THEN I KNOW WE HAVE EMILY AND MADIVAL THAT WILL SUPPORT IN THIS, BUT AS A RESULT OF SENATE BILL 13, WE HAVE TO BRING ANY PURCHASE OF LIBRARY BOOKS IN FRONT OF THE SCHOOL BOARD.
AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL, WE TYPICALLY WORK WITH THE VENDORS FOR BOOK PURCHASING, WHICH I BELIEVE IS FOLLETT AND MAKIN.
AND THEY GIVE US KIND OF AN OVERVIEW, BUT OUR LIBRARIANS, WE ARE FORTUNATE TO HAVE ONE AT EACH CAMPUS, THEY WEIGH IN AND SELECT WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO THEIR LIBRARY.
THEY'RE PUTTING EYES ON IT, AND THEY ALSO HAVE PEER NETWORKS THAT THEY'RE GETTING INFORMATION FROM.
NOTHING HAS CHANGED ON THE BACK END FOR US, OTHER THAN WITH SENATE BILL 13, WE HAVE TO BRING IT TO YOU GUYS.
I KNOW EMILY AND MADIVAL CAN PROBABLY ADD TO THAT.
>> GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, DR. WRIGHT.
TO EXPAND ON THAT, THE BIGGEST CHANGE IS THAT WE HAVE TO GIVE THAT LIST 30 DAYS IN ADVANCE.
YOU GUYS ALSO RECEIVED A LIST TODAY FOR NEXT BOARD MEETING.
THAT'S A VERY AWKWARD CADENCE IN MY OPINION, BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A LIST THAT CAME IN SEPTEMBER, AND NOW YOU'VE GOT A DIFFERENT LIST THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT IN 30 DAYS.
>> OKAY TEAM. I'M GOING TO LOOK TO MY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS. MISS RUNKLE?
>> I'M JUST GOING TO SAY, WELL, I DON'T LOVE THIS.
I THINK THAT OUR DISTRICT DOES AN AMAZING JOB, WHERE WE HAVE WONDERFUL LIBRARIANS, AND LIKE DR. WRIGHT ALLUDED TO, WE HAVE PEER GROUPS THAT THEY USE TO VET A LOT OF THESE BOOKS.
WE HAVE GOTTEN A VERY EXHAUSTIVE LIST THAT I THINK WE'VE ALL GONE THROUGH.
AT LEAST I'VE GONE THROUGH, HAVE NOT READ ALL OF THEM.
BUT I WILL SAY IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT THIS IS WHERE WE'RE AT.
I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND, THOUGH, BECAUSE I DO THINK THAT THERE ARE DISTRICTS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS THAT PROBABLY WEREN'T FOLLOWING ALL OF THE THINGS THAT HAYS CISD FOLLOWS.
THAT'S WHAT GOT US INTO THIS SITUATION OR GOT ALL OF US INTO THIS SITUATION.
BUT AS A PARENT, I WILL TELL YOU, I DO APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT I KNOW, AND I HAVE EASY ACCESS TO WHAT MY KID IS READING.
AS A PARENT, AND I SAID THIS LAST MONTH, AS A PARENT OF A KID WHO CAME HOME WITH A BOOK THAT WAS HIGHLY INAPPROPRIATE, AND I HAD TO REACH OUT TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO GET THAT BOOK PULLED.
I CARE ABOUT IT. PARENTS CARE ABOUT THE BOOKS THAT THEIR CHILDREN READ.
AGAIN, WE ARE IN A GREAT DISTRICT THAT HAS A LOT OF VETTING THAT GOES INTO THESE BOOKS, SO I FEEL VERY CONFIDENT IN ALL OF THE LISTS THAT YOU BRING US.
BUT I JUST WANTED TO SAY, I DON'T LOVE THAT WE HAVE TO NOW APPROVE THESE, ESPECIALLY IN THE DISTRICT THAT WE ARE, BUT I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND IT AND WHY IT'S COME DOWN THE PIPELINE, THE WAY THAT IT'S COME DOWN.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN FOR THOSE LISTENING IF OUR PARENTS WANT TO GO AND LOOK AT BOOKS THAT ARE IN THEIR SCHOOLS? WHERE DO THEY GO?
>> CERTAINLY. THE WEBSITE IS LIBRARY1.HAYSCISD.NET.
THEN IT LISTS ALL OF OUR SCHOOL CATALOGS THERE.
THERE IS A SPECIFIC LINK IF THEY WANT TO LOG IN AND SEE THEIR OWN CHILD'S CHECKOUT.
YOU COULD GET THAT FROM YOUR CAMPUS NEWSLETTER.
YOU DON'T CREATE A PASSWORD LIKE YOU DO ON OTHER WEBSITES.
IT'LL SEND YOU AN AUTHORIZATION CODE TO THE EMAIL THAT'S TIED IN TO TEAMS. WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT THEY ARE AUTHORIZED PARENTS THROUGH OUR SIS SYSTEM.
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THEN YOU HAVE ACCESS TO WHAT YOUR CHILD HAS CHECKED OUT CURRENTLY.>> WONDERFUL. THANK YOU. WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING TO YOU A LOT THIS YEAR.
>> I LOVE IT. MRS. TADIA, WILL YOU PLEASE JUST MAKE SURE THAT OUR CAMPUSES ARE PUTTING OUT THAT INFORMATION IN THEIR NEWSLETTERS AND IN THEIR CAMPUS COMMUNICATION TO ENSURE THAT EVERY PARENT KNOWS HOW TO ACCESS AND WHERE TO LOOK? THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT.
I KNOW THIS IS A LOT, AND IT ADDS MORE STEPS TO Y'ALL'S JOB.
BUT WE'RE IN IT TOGETHER. WE'LL DO IT TOGETHER. THANKS.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS NEW JOB THAT YOU NOW HAVE.
I DO WANT TO THANK THE TEACHERS AND LIBRARIANS THAT TOOK THE TIME TO PROVIDE THE TITLES OF THESE BOOKS AND COMMENTARY AS WELL.
FOR FUTURE BOARDS, I DO WANT TO HOPE WE HAVE THE MOST EFFICIENT PROCESS FORWARD, SO WE CAN GET A CLEARER LOOK ON WHAT'S BEING PUT FORWARD.
I KNOW THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO PERFECT, BUT FOR FUTURE BOARDS AND FUTURE BOARD MEMBERS, I THINK THE EASIEST WAY POSSIBLE THAT WE CAN HAVE PLENTY OF TIME TO LOOK AT WHAT THE COMMENTS ARE.
THERE WAS CERTAINLY SOME QUESTIONS SUBMITTED ON BOARD BLOG THAT WERE GREAT, AS FAR AS, REVIEWED TWICE, REVIEWED ONCE.
BUT I DO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT JUST PROCESS.
AS FAR AS BOOKS THAT WERE PERHAPS ON THE LIST, AND CLARIFY FOR ME, PLEASE, IF THEY WERE REJECTED OR NOT PUT FORWARD FOR ANY REASON, WOULD THE BOARD SEE THOSE PARTICULAR BOOKS, OR WOULD THEY JUST NOT BE ON THE LIST? THAT MAKES ANY SENSE?
>> CURRENTLY, THEY JUST WOULD NOT COME BACK ON A LIST.
>> THE LIBRARIANS AND TEACHERS, I GUESS DECIDE WHAT IS PUT FORWARD? I GUESS THAT'S MY QUESTION ABOUT, WOULD THE BOARD SEE ALL NAMES, WHETHER THEY ARE IF THERE'S ONE OR TWO BOOKS THAT MAYBE WERE DEEMED, NOT WORTHY BEING PUT IN FORWARD, OR ETC.
WOULD THE BOARD SEE THAT AS WELL, OR WE JUST SEE THE BOOKS, THEIR COMMENTS, AND THESE ARE THE BOOKS WE RECOMMEND?
>> YOU WOULD SEE THE RECOMMENDED LIST.
>> WELL, AGAIN, THANK YOU, AGAIN, THIS IS IT WAS FUN READING THROUGH THE TITLES AND THE COMMENTS, AND SOME COOL STORIES AND THERE IN THE COMMENTS, EXPLAINING SOME OF THAT DETAIL.
I KNOW THIS IS A LOT, BUT HOPEFULLY AS A BOARD, WE CAN JUST NORM A EFFICIENT PROCESS FOR DOING THIS. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> I WANT TO PIGGY BACK TO MR. FLORES' POINT ABOUT EFFICIENCY.
THIS IS MORE PROCEDURAL, BUT MAYBE WE CAN CONSIDER MOVING THAT TO CONSENT AGENDA, AND IF WE NEED TO PULL IT AS AN ITEM BECAUSE OF A TITLE, THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THROWING THAT OUT THERE FOR EFFICIENCY. THANK YOU.
>> I'M ACTUALLY GLAD YOU MENTIONED THAT.
I DO BELIEVE IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
I THINK THIS FIRST TIME WE PUT IT HERE. ALL AROUND.
>> REAL QUICK, TO TALK ABOUT THE FISCAL IMPACT.
I KNOW THAT, THINGS THAT COME TO THE BOARD UNDER $100,000, WE TYPICALLY DON'T SEE, BUT EVEN THOUGH IT WAS LESS THAN THAT, BECAUSE NOW WE HAVE TO VOTE ON IT, WE WILL BE SEEING THIS EVEN THOUGH THE DOLLAR AMOUNT IS WELL WITHIN OUR THRESHOLD TO APPROVE.
MUCH CONSENT, I THINK THAT'S THE CADENCE IS THE WORD OF THE NIGHT, FOLKS.
THAT'S THE CADENCE FOR NEXT WEEK.
WE DO THIS GOING FORWARD FOR THE NEXT MONTH.
MAX CREATED THE CADENCE WORD FOR A DISTRICT, SO THE CLEAVER EFFECT.
HERE WE GO. [LAUGHTER] THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT.
I THINK I'VE NOTICED WE HAVE SOME FOLKS THAT HAVE BEEN WAITING AROUND IN THE BACK THAT MIGHT WANT TO BE MOVED UP IN OUR AGENDA MAX.
CAN WE MOVE UP ITEM L8 ON PAGE 115?
[L.8. Consideration and possible approval of the Assignment of the Vendor for 2025 Bond Artificial Turf Installation and Running Track Cycle Replacement at Barton Middle School, Chapa Middle School, Dahlstrom Middle School, McCormick Middle School, Simon Middle School, and Wallace Middle School - Hellas Construction]
THIS IS THE CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE APPROVAL OF THE ASSIGNMENT OF VENDOR OF THE 2025 BOND ARTIFICIAL TURF INSTALLATION AND RUNNING TRACK, TRACK RECYCLE REPLACEMENT AT BARTON MIDDLE SCHOOL, CHAPA MIDDLE SCHOOL, DAHLSTROM MIDDLE SCHOOL, MCCORMICK MIDDLE SCHOOL, SIMON MIDDLE SCHOOL, AND WALLACE MIDDLE SCHOOL FOR HELLAS CONSTRUCTION.>> GOOD EVENING, PRESIDENT SEVERANCE AND BOARD AND DR. WRIGHT, ON PAGE 115, LIKE YOU SAID, WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
WHAT WE'RE BRINGING TONIGHT IS ACTUALLY THE SECOND TO THE LOWEST OFFER.
THERE WAS ONE LOWER OFFER, BUT WE DON'T THINK IT WAS ACTUALLY RESPONSIVE.
THIS PARTICULAR OFFER INCLUDES THE FULL SHOCK PAD THAT GOES UNDERNEATH THE TURF, AND THEN ALSO WHAT THEY CALL A FULL POUR TRACK.
EVEN THOUGH WE'RE BRINGING SOMETHING TO ALL TONIGHT THAT'S SLIGHTLY OVER BUDGET OR OVER BUDGET, I THINK THAT THERE'S SOME LONGEVITY AND SOME SAFETY ASPECTS TO THAT WILL MAKE IT WORTH IT.
HERE TONIGHT, WE HAVE BRIAN PARKS AND CHAD FERRIS FROM HELLAS,
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AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE JEFF BRESEE FROM CEI.HE'S OUR ENGINEER, AND LANCE MOFFATT IS HERE AS WELL.
ONCE I GO OVER THE OVERVIEW, I'M GOING TO ASK THOSE TWO GUYS, ASK LANCE AND JEFF TO COME UP HERE AND TALK ABOUT THE SAFETY AND LONGEVITY PIECES OF IT.
BUT SHOULD YOU ALL CHOOSE TO APPROVE THIS, THIS WOULD BE A STAGGERED START AND A STAGGERED FINISH BECAUSE THAT'S A LOT OF WORK TO JUST TRY TO DO AT ONCE.
THE FIRST ROUND WOULD FINISH IN MARCH OF 2026, SO IT WOULD START IMMEDIATELY HERE IN NOVEMBER.
STARTING THE NEXT MONTH AND FINISH IN MARCH, AND THAT WOULD BE CHAPA AND WALLACE AND MCCORMICK.
C, W, M, THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST ONES, AND THEN THOSE WOULD FINISH IN MARCH.
THEN A SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION, THE STAGGERED COMPLETION FOR BARTON, DAHLSTROM AND SIMON WOULD BE AROUND AUGUST OF 26.
WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO GET THEM ALL DONE, BUT STAGGERED COMPLETION, NONETHELESS.
I THINK IT'S ALL'S DIAS PLACES. WELL, A COUPLE OF THINGS.
ON PAGE 117, YOU HAVE THE ACTUAL PROJECT TOTALS, THE ACCOUNTING FOR THE PROJECTS.
WE GAVE YOU A NEW SHEET THAT ACTUALLY HAD THE TITLES FROM WHAT'S ON THE LEFT.
BUT THEN AT YOUR PLACE TONIGHT, ALL SHOULD HAVE AN ITEM THAT LOOKS LIKE THIS.
Y'ALL HADN'T SEEN ONE OF THESE IN A WHILE, AND I THOUGHT IT WAS TIME TO BRING THIS OUT BECAUSE IN PREVIOUS BONDS, IF YOU ALL REMEMBER, SOME PROJECTS COME IN OVER BUDGET, SOME PROJECTS COME IN UNDER BUDGET WITH THE GOAL, THE OVERALL GOAL, OBVIOUSLY, TO COME IN UNDER BUDGET.
THE FIRST PAGE WILL HAVE THIS COLORED GRAPHIC HERE ON YOUR TOP LEFT HERE.
BARBARA, DID THEY GET THAT ONE? IN THE MIDDLE SCHOOL IN TURPEC. THERE WE GO.
WHAT WE'VE TRIED TO DO, WE'VE DONE THE SAME COLOR COORDINATION AS WE'VE DONE ON THE PAST BONDS.
YELLOW COLOR MEANS IT'S IN SCHEMATIC DESIGN, ORANGE IS DESIGN DEVELOPMENT AND G MEANS GMP, MEANING IT'S ACTUALLY GONE AND WE'RE UNDER CONTRACT.
THE FIRST PAGE, THE ONLY PROJECTS THAT STILL HAVE A RISK OF GOING OVER BUDGET ARE ES18, WHICH IS STILL COMING UP, AND THEN THE IMPACT AT HIGH SCHOOL 4.
THAT'S PAGE 1. IF YOU GO TO PAGE 2, THAT HAS ALL THE YELLOW AND GREEN ON IT, WHAT I'M GOING TO SHOW THERE IS EVEN WITH THE CONSIDERATION FOR THESE TURF PROJECTS BEING AN AVERAGE OF ABOUT 850,000 OVER BUDGET AT EACH LOCATION, OUR OVERALL BOND HEALTH WITH THAT CONSIDERED, WE STILL HAVE $45 MILLION IN CONTINGENCY.
ON THAT RIGHT COLUMN SECOND TO THE RIGHT COLUMN UNDER THE TOTALS, YOU CAN SEE UNDER THE CONSTRUCTION, WHAT WE'RE ESTIMATING, WHAT WE'RE ESTIMATING FROM THE ARCHITECT, THE FF&E, THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND FEES, AND THEN AGAIN, THE CONTINGENCY.
THAT 962 CORRESPONDS TO THE PROPOSITIONS THAT RUN ON THE 2025 BOND PLAN.
AGAIN, WE ARE RECOMMENDING A PROJECT.
THIS IS A PROJECT THAT IS OVER BUDGET.
WITH THAT, I'LL STOP TALKING AND ASK JEFF AND LANCE TO COME UP AND TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE LONGEVITY AND SAFETY FEATURES.
>> APPRECIATE IT. I'M JEFF BRESEE, WITH CEI ENGINEERING.
WE ARE THE ENGINEERS ON THIS PROJECT.
HERE TO JUST ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
AS FAR AS HOW THE BIDS CAME IN, WE FEEL REALLY GOOD ABOUT THE PRODUCTS WE'RE GETTING.
REALLY IS TOP OF THE LINE, I THINK ARE AVAILABLE FOR THIS PROJECT.
ALSO JUST LOOKING AT THINGS THAT ARE A LITTLE BIT LONGER LASTING, BETTER PERFORMING, AND ALSO LOWER MAINTENANCE OVER REALLY QUITE LONG PERIODS OF TIME.
SOME OF THIS MONEY THAT'S GOING OUT NOW SEEMS LIKE WE'RE SPENDING MORE NOW, BUT A LOT OF IT IS DONE IN WAYS IF WE WERE TO SAVE MONEY NOW, WE WOULD JUST BE SPENDING IT ALONG THE PATH OF THE NEXT CYCLE OR TWO OF THINGS.
TO TRY AND BE A GREAT QUALITY FOR THE KIDS, GREAT QUALITY FOR THE COMMUNITY, REALLY TOP QUALITY.
WE'RE ALSO GETTING MONEY THAT WE'LL PAY BACK BECAUSE OF MUCH LOWER MAINTENANCE OVER THE TIME.
AN EXAMPLE OF THIS IS THE SHOCK PAD, UNDER THE TURF IS A PORT IN PLACE SHOCK PAD, NOT A PUZZLE PIECE KIND.
WHENEVER YOU REPLACE A PUZZLE PIECE KIND, EVERYTHING HAS TO BE COMPLETELY TAKEN APART AND COMPLETELY PUT BACK TOGETHER AND COSTS 50 TO 100,000 EXTRA DOLLAR PER FIELD JUST IN EXTRA LABOR.
WELL, THIS WON'T REQUIRE THAT.
THESE ARE SYSTEMS THAT CAN GO ON ABOUT 30 YEARS OR A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT LIFE CYCLES.
THAT'S QUITE A BIT OF MONEY REALIZED THAT YOU WON'T BE PAYING LATER BECAUSE WE'RE PUTTING A BETTER PRODUCT IN NOW.
SAME THING WITH THE TRACK SURFACE.
THIS IS GOING TO BE A FULL POOR TRACK SURFACE.
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THESE MEAN THEY DON'T HAVE ANY AIR IN THEM AT ALL.THEY'RE FULL CUSHION, SO THEY LAST MUCH LONGER.
MOST TRACKS, YOU HAVE TO COME UP FIVE OR SIX YEARS AND KEEP STRUCTURE SPRAY ON THEM AND PAINT THEM AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
SIGNIFICANT SAVINGS AND MAINTENANCE AND JUST EVEN THE PROBLEMS OF THOSE DOWN THE LINE.
BUT ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER.
>> TEAM LOOKED TO MY LEFT. MR. FLORES?
>> THANK YOU, SIR. IN REGARDS TO THESE LASTING LONG.
CAN YOU REMIND ME OF, IS IT A TEN-YEAR CYCLE FOR THE TURF TRACK?
>> TURF, THAT'S WHAT WE ESTIMATE THAT ON.
WHEN IT COMES TO TRACK, IT'S ALSO ABOUT A TEN-YEAR CYCLE.
IF WE WERE TO DO THE STANDARD BASE MAT AND STRUCTURAL SPRAY, WHERE THE FULL POUR TRACK CAN LAST CONSIDER ALMOST TWICE THAT LONG.
>> AGAIN, I LIKE YOU EMPHASIZING THE MAINTENANCE LONG TERM.
I GUYS IF YOU HAVE A NOTICE WHERE WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF WATER PRETTY FAST.
I LIKE THAT IDEA. REMIND ME AGAIN, I KNOW WE HAD VERY LENGTHY DISCUSSIONS WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE BOND MONTHS BACK, BUT THESE FIELDS ARE GOING TO HAVE LOGOS?
>> YEAH. WE LET EACH SCHOOL, OF COURSE, WE'RE NOT DOING LOTS AND LOTS OF GRAPHICS.
YOU CAN'T, BUT THEY WILL CERTAINLY HAVE THEIR LOGO AND THEIR CUSTOMIZATION.
WE'VE GOT COLOR PATTERNS THAT HAVE GONE OUT.
THEY'RE ACCEPTABLE BY EACH OF THE SCHOOL THAT ARE ALREADY IN THERE.
>> I GOT THAT QUESTION FROM A RESIDENT LONG AGO.
>> THEY WON'T TO BE PLAIN JANE GREEN AND WHITE. THEY'LL GO.
JEFF DID THE INITIAL DESIGN TO GET THROUGH THE FBOC AND GET ON THE BOND.
ONCE THAT GOT THROUGH AND WE PASSED THE BOND, THEN WE SENT THAT OUT TO THE PRINCIPALS AND THE COORDINATORS ON THE CAMPUSES TO APPROVE THE LOGOS, MAKE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS FOR ANYTHING ELSE THEY WANTED.
THIS WILL ALSO INCLUDE NAMES OF BOTH END ZONES.
>> ABSOLUTELY. AGAIN, WE KNOW WE HAVE SIX MIDDLE SCHOOLS, MORE COMING ONLINE IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS.
I LOVE THAT WE'RE DOING OUR PART TO CONSERVE WATER.
AGAIN, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT ALTER FIELDS, BUT THANK YOU FOR COMING FORWARD.
>>A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF WATER IS SAVED BY USING THESE OPTIONS.
>> YES. THANK YOU. I KNOW WE HAD ISSUES WITH HASTE TRACK AT SHELTON STADIUM.
WE'RE READY TO CUT THE I KNOW FOR LANCE AND SO IS BEING ADDRESSED WITH THE INSTALLATION OF THIS ONE?
>> CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE?
>> THAT WAS A STRUCTURAL SPRAY TRACK.
IT HADN'T BEEN MAINTENANCED AND MAINTENANCED IN MULTIPLE YEARS, SO WE WERE OFF CYCLE.
WE TRIED TO GET BACK ON CYCLE, AND ESSENTIALLY, WE PUT A BAND AID ON IT UNTIL WE CAN GET THE BOND PASS TO REDO IT ON THE NEXT TIME.
THESE TRACKS WILL NOT BE STRUCTURAL SPRAY.
THEY'LL BE THE FULL PORE THAT JEFF MENTIONED, WHICH WILL TAKE IT OUT TO ABOUT 20 YEARS OF A CYCLE.
WE'LL ONLY HAVE TO STRIPE THESE TRACKS.
TYPICALLY A STRUCTURAL SPRAY, YOU STRIPE THEM EVERY FIVE YEARS AND DO THE TOP SURFACE.
THEN AT 10 YEARS, YOU HAVE TO GO ALL THE WAY BACK DOWN AND IT'S JUST A OVER AND OVER EXPENSE.
THESE FULL PORT TRACKS WILL NOT BE THAT WAY AT ALL.
WE MAY HAVE TO STRIPE IT AT 10 YEARS AND THEN REDO IT AT 20, I DON'T KNOW.
>> THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
ANOTHER THING IS THEY JUST GIVE YOU BETTER SERVICE DURING THAT TIME, TOO.
THEY CAN'T FULL PORE BECAUSE YOU'RE TAKING THAT LIQUID URETHANE THAT PROVIDES WITH A CUSHION, AND YOU JUST POUR IT ON THE GROUND AND YOU MAKE A THICK LAYER OF IT.
ALL THE OTHER TRACKS ARE TAKING RUBBER BBS AND JUST GETTING THOSE BBS TO STICK TOGETHER WITH THAT SAME URETHANE.
THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT LESS URETHANE IN A STANDARD TRACT, THEY HAVE AIR IN THEM.
BUT BECAUSE THEY HAVE AIR IN THEM, THEY ALSO OXIDIZE THEY CRYSTALLIZE.
THEY GO HARD AFTER ABOUT 10 YEARS, BUT DOESN'T HAPPEN TO THESE FULL PORE TRACKS SO THEY JUST LAST LONGER.
>> THE OTHER THING THAT HAPPENED AT HAYS, THE STRUCTURAL SPRAY IS PERMEABLE, SO THE WATER GETS INSIDE OF IT.
AFTER WE RESPRAYED THE TRACK AT HAYS, ALONG THE STRAIGHTAWAY AND AT THE FINISH LINE, THERE WAS WATER MOISTURE UNDERNEATH, AND IT STARTED TO CAUSE BUBBLING.
THAT'S WHY WE HAD TO COME BACK AND REDO IT.
THEY JUST FINISHED STRIPING IT LAST WEEK SO WE STARTED THAT IN NOVEMBER OF LAST YEAR.
THEY WERE FINISHED ABOUT MID FEBRUARY, AND THEN TRACK SEASON CAME ABOUT, AND WE STARTED GETTING THAT BUBBLING UP.
THIS WILL ELIMINATE ALL OF THAT STUFF.
>> I'D LIKE THE INDIVIDUALIZED APPROACH TO EACH OF THE TRACKS TOO.
WE'RE GOING TO GET A YELLOW TURF AT SIMON AND THEN A BLUE TURF AT [INAUDIBLE] NO. NOT QUITE THAT.
ONE THING, MAX, IS A QUESTION FOR YOU ON THIS.
I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU ACTUALLY PROVIDING ALL THIS.
YOU GIVE US BECAUSE I'M GUILTY OF IT.
LOOKING JUST FOCUS ON THIS ONE PRODUCT, OH MAN, WE'RE OVER BUDGET ON THIS ONE, BUT BIG PICTURE WISE, WHERE WE'RE SEEING THE BIG WHOLE THING.
ONE THING HIGH SCHOOL FOUR ON THIS?
>> YES, SIR. HIGH SCHOOL FOUR IS ON THE BACKSIDE.
IT'S ON THE BACKSIDE TOP LEFT,
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AND WE'RE AT SCHEMATIC DESIGN ON THAT ONE.>> COMPREHENSIVE HIGH SCHOOL FOUR.
>> GREAT. IT WAS DIFFERENT. GOT IT. THANKS, SIR.
>> GOOD TO SEE YOU. THANK YOU FOR PRESENTING TONIGHT.
I HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS. FIRST, MR. CLEAVER, THANK YOU FOR PROVIDING THIS BOND LOOK AHEAD.
I ACTUALLY HAVE YOUR LAST ONE THAT YOU GAVE US, AND I HAVE IT IN MY FOLDER, AND I OCCASIONALLY LOOK AT IT.
IT'S NICE TO HAVE AN UPDATED ONE.
THANK YOU. A COUPLE OF THINGS.
I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU, I'M NOT GOING TO NAME THE COMPANY, BUT I WAS GOING TO ASK WHY YOU DIDN'T GO WITH THE LOWER BID.
IT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE NON RESPONSIVE, IS THAT THE THING? SORRY, WE CARE ABOUT MONEY HERE.
>> THEY WEREN'T AS RESPONSIVE, MAYBE.
>> YEAH, THERE'S MULTIPLE THINGS THAT WENT INTO THIS.
NUMBER 1, TO BE REALLY HONEST, THE SCHOOL HAS BEEN A LONG TIME, YOUR COACHES DID A LOT OF TRIPS OUT LOOKING AT EARTHS AND TRACKS AND ALL THE PRODUCTS.
THE COMPANY WE'RE USING GOT THE HIGHEST STRENGTH, AND YOU MIGHT SAY WITH A FIBER.
WE CAN GET INTO A LOT OF TECHNICALS, BUT FIBER IS ACTUALLY REALLY IMPORTANT.
THE TWISTED HELIX FIBER WE'RE GETTING REALLY IS TOP LINE.
THE OTHER COMPANY, I THINK WE HAVE SOME GOOD RELATIONSHIPS WITH THEM, BUT THE FIBER, WE WOULD JUST SAY DOESN'T HAVE THE LONGEVITY.
ALSO, MAYBE EVEN THE PERFORMANCE, THE ABILITY TO STAND UP AND NOT GET MATTED DOWN WAS REALLY IMPORTANT.
THAT WEIGHED IN A WHOLE BUNCH AS TO WHY WE'RE WORKING WITH THE COMPANY WE'RE WORKING WITH.
BUT, ALSO, WE ASKED VERY SPECIFICALLY FOR A LOT OF INFORMATION, ESPECIALLY TIMELINE STUFF, AND OUR LOWEST PRICE DIDN'T GIVE US ANYTHING ON THAT.
LEFT US WITHOUT A LOT OF STUFF TO RANK THEM WITH.
THEN JUST A FINAL THING THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF AN ISSUE WITH THEIR TRACK COMPANY THAT YOU'RE STILL DEALING WITH THAT ISN'T RESOLVED.
THESE THINGS ALL GO INTO HOW THE COMMITTEE RANKED THEIR POINTS THAT RESULTED IN A ONE VERSUS A TWO.
>> IS THAT THE COMPANY THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH?
>> NO. IT'S THE COMPANY THAT WE'RE NOT HERE THAT WE'RE [INAUDIBLE].
>> THAT'S WHAT I MEAN. THAT'S ALL YOU NEEDED TO LEAD WITH, SIR.
>> BACK TO, CAN YOU TALK TO ME ABOUT THE DIFFERENCES IN THE CAMPUSES AND WHY THE PRICE DIFFERENCE AMONGST THEM? WHERE ARE YOU SEEING THE MOST DIFFICULTY? IT LOOKS LIKE MCCORMICK AND DOSTRAM ARE UP THERE.
>> EXPLAIN TO ME WHERE WE'RE AT WITH CAMPUSES.
>> YES. IN EVERY WAY WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THESE AS SIMILAR AS POSSIBLE, THE SAME STANDARD AS POSSIBLE, SO IN EVERY LOCATION, IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY BULLDOZE WHAT WE HAVE AND BUILD COMPLETELY NEW FACILITIES THERE.
BUT THAT JUST GETS INTO DIFFERENT CHALLENGES WITH STORM DRAIN, WITH SOILS, THE SUB GRADE SURFACES, AND EVEN JUST SOME CONFIGURATIONS OF THE FIELD EVENTS SO THOSE WOULD BE THE ONLY DIFFERENCES.
BUT AS FAR AS THE TURF THEY'RE GETTING, THE TRACT THEY'RE GETTING, THE ASPHALT THEY'RE GETTING, THE BASE THEY'RE GETTING, ALL THE STANDARDS ARE THE SAME.
BUT SOME OF THEM HAVE A LITTLE MORE STORM DRAIN.
WE GOT TO DEAL WITH THAN OTHERS, SOME HAVE A LITTLE TOUGHER SOIL UNDERNEATH THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAN OTHERS.
>> GOT IT. THEN, MR. CLEAVER, YOU WERE SOUNDING OFF A BUNCH OF COMPLETION DATES.
WILL YOU PUT THAT IN A BOARD BLOG SO THAT WE HAVE THAT?
>> I DO SEE THAT MCCORMICK GOT MOVED BACK UP, SO VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THAT. THANK YOU.
THEY'RE GOING TO BE REAL HAPPY ABOUT THAT.
WE GOT A WATER SHORTAGE, APPARENTLY.
Y'ALL HEARING ABOUT THAT? COACH MOFFIT, MAYBE YOU WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT, BUT ALSO, MR. CLEAVER, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE YOU CHIME IN TOO, BECAUSE FOR INSTANCE, THE CITY OF KYLE, THEY ARE INCREASING THEIR CITIZENS, 77% IN WATER RATES.
WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE FOR US, WITH US AS WE GET WATER? DO WE GET WATER FROM THE CITY OF KYLE? WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE FOR US? BUT ALSO EXPLAIN HOW THIS IS GOING TO HELP US NOT HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT SIDE OF THINGS, BECAUSE WE ARE ON A SCHEDULE OF WATERING, AND WE CAN'T WATER A LOT OF THESE FIELDS.
>> YEAH, WE GET WATER FROM THE CITY OF KYLE, AND I THINK EITHER FIVE OR SIX OTHER ENTITIES, SO WE GET WATER FROM MULTIPLE PLACES.
I THINK IT WILL HELP TWO WAYS.
FIRST, JUST THE REGULAR USAGE, YOU WILL REDUCE THE USAGE.
THAT'S JUST HOWEVER MANY GALLONS, AND THAT'S THAT NUMBER.
BUT AS Y'ALL HAVE SEEN JUST RECENTLY, AS THE WATER TIGHTENS UP, AND WE HAVE TO GO FURTHER TO GET THE WATER, AND WE HAVE THESE LIVING UNIT EQUIVALENTS, AND WE HAVE TO PAY FOR THIS RESERVE CAPACITY, I THINK WE'LL HAVE TO RESERVE LESS CAPACITY.
SO NOT ONLY THE USE ITSELF, BUT WE'LL BE ASKING TO RESERVE LESS CAPACITY.
THAT'S SOMETIMES A REALLY BIG NUMBER AS Y'ALL HAVE SEEN RECENTLY, SO I THINK IT'LL BE TWO FOLD, JUST [INAUDIBLE] WISE.
>> WONDERFUL. CAN YOU LET US KNOW WHAT THE RATES ARE INCREASING FOR US WHEN IT COMES TO WATER FROM THE CITY OF KYLE?
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CAN YOU PLEASE PROVIDE THAT TO US, PLEASE? THEN LASTLY, I WILL JUST ASK, IS THIS GOING TO AFFECT TRACK SEASON AT ANY OF OUR CAMPUSES? IF SO, DO WE HAVE A CONTINGENCY PLAN TO ENSURE THAT EVERYBODY GETS SOME TRACK TIME?>> YES, MA'AM. WE MET WITH THE MIDDLE SCHOOL COORDINATORS ON THE LAST END SERVICE DAY, AND WE INSTRUCTED MCCORMICK CHAPA AND WALLACE TO COME UP WITH PLAN B FOR TRACK PRACTICE.
WE HAD INITIALLY INTENDED ON DOING THIS AT THE CAMPUS NEAREST THEIR HIGH SCHOOL SO THAT THEY COULD ACCESS THE HIGH SCHOOL TRACK.
BUT THE SEQUENCY OF CONSTRUCTION GOT IN A WAY, MEANING WE DON'T WANT TO BE BUILDING A WEIGHT ROOM AT SIMON WHILE WE'RE BUILDING A TRACK AND A FOOTBALL FIELD AT SIMON.
WE HAD TO MOVE. THAT'S WHY TO YOUR QUESTION ABOUT MCCORMICK, WE HAD TO LOOK AT ALL THAT.
THAT WAS DONE BY OUR CONSTRUCTION TEAM.
PLAN B WILL BE, WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THERE YET.
I'M ACTUALLY MEETING WITH THE PRINCIPAL AND THE COORDINATORS AT MCCORMICK TOMORROW.
THEN I'LL MEET WITH THE OTHERS OVER THE NEXT FEW DAYS UNTIL NEXT WEEK'S MEETING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A GENERAL PLAN.
WE TALKED TO THEIR HIGH SCHOOL COORDINATORS.
WE INSTRUCTED THEM TO SUPPORT THEM IN ANY WAY, NEED TO DO THAT.
TYPICALLY, IT'LL LOOK LIKE 2-3 DAYS A WEEK ON THE CAMPUS IN THE GRASSED AREA, IF THERE'S AN AREA OR ANOTHER AREA THAT THEY CAN FIND.
THEN ONE OR TWO DAYS AT THE HIGH SCHOOL, SPECIFICALLY FOCUSING ON THEIR FIELD EVENTS AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
IF THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO RIGHT NOW AT THIS MOMENT, IT'LL LOOK SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
>> CAN YOU PROVIDE THAT CONTINGENCY PLAN FOR US, FOR INSTANCE, FOR SAY, JUST USING MCCORMICK AS AN EXAMPLE, MCCORMICK HAS TO GO TO JOHNSON HIGH SCHOOL FOR TRACK.
ARE WE GOING TO HAVE TRANSPORTATION FOR THOSE KIDS?
>> I WILL PROVIDE ALL THAT. I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER TO THAT RIGHT NOW, BUT CERTAINLY WE WILL PROVIDE WHATEVER THEY NEED.
>> I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION GOING ON ALL ACROSS OUR DISTRICT, BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF FACILITIES THANKFULLY ACROSS OUR DISTRICT.
>> WE SHOULD NOT HAVE ANY CAMPUSES OR ANY PROGRAMS THAT SHOULD NOT HAVE THE SPACE THAT THEY NEED AND THE WORK AROUND THAT WE CAN HELP PROVIDE TO ENSURE THAT EVERY ATHLETE HAS THE EXACT SAME TIME ON THE FIELD OR ON THE TRACK AS ANY OTHER STUDENT ACROSS THE DISTRICT.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE CONTINGENCY PLANS ARE SOLID.
>> THE IDEA WAS TO GET IT DONE BEFORE TRACK SEASON.
IF YOU GO ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY, THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
THEY'RE GOING TO MISS THE FIRST MONTH OF PRACTICE.
I THINK WE LOOKED AT THE CALENDAR LAST WEEK WHEN WE MET WITH THEM AS WELL.
I THINK THERE'S ONE MEET BEFORE FEBRUARY IS OVER, AND THEN THEY GET INTO DISTRICT.
DISTRICT THIS YEAR FOR MIDDLE SCHOOL IS AFTER SPRING BREAK.
LAST YEAR, IT WAS BEFORE SPRING BREAK, SO WE DIDN'T DO IT BECAUSE OF THIS.
WE DELIBERATELY MOVED IT JUST BASED ON SEQUENCING AND ALL THOSE THINGS.
BUT WE'RE DEFINITELY LOOKING AT THOSE THINGS, AND WE'LL SUPPLY YOU WITH ALL THAT INFORMATION.
>> WONDERFUL. THANK YOU. MR. SEIBEL, DID YOU CAPTURE THOSE QUESTIONS? I APPRECIATE IT.
THANK YOU GUYS AGAIN. I HAVE ALWAYS SUPPORTED TURF.
I SAW THE WRITING ON THE WALL A LONG TIME AGO, AND IT IS REAPING BENEFITS NOW ACROSS THE DISTRICT AS WE HAVE, TURF AND OTHER AREAS, SO THANK YOU, GUYS. YES.
>> JUST REMIND YOU ASK ABOUT THE WATER SITUATION WITH TURF, JUST TO REMIND EVERYBODY.
THE FIELD IS MEASURED IN THE GMAC.
THAT'S WHAT DETERMINES HOW HARD THE FIELD IS.
I'VE BEEN ON EVERY MIDDLE SCHOOL FIELD THROUGHOUT THIS SEASON EVERY WEEK.
WE'RE IN THE SAME STAGE 3 WATERING RIGHT NOW THAN WE WERE THREE YEARS AGO WHEN WE HAD THE ISSUES AT SIMON.
OUR FIELDS, OUR GROUNDS CREW DID AN OUTSTANDING JOB, DESPITE ALL THE CONSTRUCTION, WE HAD ISSUES WITH ELECTRICAL AT ONE FIELD, WE HAD ISSUES WITH TIMING AT ANOTHER FIELD.
WE HAD ALL THESE THINGS, AND WE KEPT ENOUGH WATER ON IT.
WE GOT A LOT OF WATER LATE AND EARLY IN THE SUMMER THAT WAS TYPICALLY NOT THE NORM FOR THE SUMMER.
THAT GOT US AHEAD OF THE CURVE.
BUT SINCE WE'VE GONE INTO STAGE 3, WE'VE BEEN WORKING REALLY HARD TO KEEP IT GOING.
THE GMAX OF THE FIELDS, MOST OF THESE COMPANIES OFFER THE SAME, BUT THE 10 YEAR WARRANTY, EIGHT YEAR WARRANTY, WHATEVER IS, THAT'S GUARANTEED THE SPECIFIC GMAX THAT'S SAFE TO PLAY ON FOR THE ENTIRETY OF THE WARRANTY.
THAT'S WHEN THEY COME, CHECK IT AND THEY COME, FIX IT, TO MAKE SURE IT'S WITHIN THE RIGHT GMAX EVERY YEAR.
I'VE NEVER HAD A FIELD THAT WENT THE WHOLE WARRANTY LENGTH THAT WASN'T WITHIN THE GMAX, SO THAT'S THE MAIN ISSUE ON IT.
>> THANK YOU. CAN YOU PROVIDE US THE DESIGN THAT YOU GUYS ARE LOOKING AT DOING ON EACH OF THOSE FIELDS? I DON'T THINK I'VE SEEN THAT.
I CERTAINLY AM NOT SAYING LET'S SPEND MORE MONEY.
ON A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT COLORS.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING THERE, BUT I LOVE SOME TURF FIELDS, BUT I DON'T WANT TO SEE A BUNCH OF MONEY SPENT ON THINGS LOOKING PRETTY. IT'S FUNCTIONAL?
>> TYPICALLY, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THE MIDDLE SCHOOL LOGO, WHATEVER THE PRINCIPAL AND THE COORDINATORS CHOSE, WHICHEVER LOGO THEY CHOSE TO PUT IN THE MIDDLE.
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WE APPROVED THAT, AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THE HCSD LOGO ON OPPOSITE 25 YARD LINES.THEN THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THE NAME OF THE SCHOOL IN THE END ZONE.
OTHERWISE, IT'LL BE A DARK GREEN LIGHT GREEN EVERY 5 YARDS, I BELIEVE.
HOPEFULLY, ONCE WE GET INTO THIS, WE'LL FIND SOME MORE WAYS TO SAVE SOME MONEY ON THIS PROJECT.
THANK YOU, GUYS. I APPRECIATE IT.
HAVING BEEN ON A LOT OF THOSE FIELDS MYSELF.
I WILL TELL YOU SOMETIMES YOU'RE HAVING TO WALK AND YOU'RE WALKING AROUND HOLES OR FALLING IN HOLES.
THAT'S WHY WE'VE HAD CAMPUSES THAT DON'T EVEN USE SOME OF THE FIELDS IN THE PAST.
I JUST APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE AND THANK YOU GUYS FOR FINDING US A VENDOR THAT IS GOING TO BE RESPONSIVE, BUT ALSO PROVIDE QUALITY MATERIAL AND WORK ALONG THE WAY. THANK YOU.
>> GENTLEMEN, FIRST OF ALL, LOTS OF GREAT QUESTIONS ALREADY.
TEN YEAR REPLACEMENT CYCLE ON TURF, 10 YEAR REPLACEMENT CYCLE ON TRACKS.
>> ACTUALLY, NO. IF WE HAD GONE WITH THE STANDARD TRACK, IT'S 10 AND 10.
WE'RE IN AN UPGRADED TRACK WHERE IT'S 10 ON THE TURF, AND YOU NEVER KNOW, 15-20 ON THE TRACKS. MOSTLY WE DO THIS ON TRACKS.
TALK TO ME ABOUT SOME OF THE SAFETY FEATURES THAT SAFETY BENEFITS THAT YOU HAVE GOING TO TURF VERSUS RING.
>> LET HIM SPEAK ON HIS OWN PRODUCTS HERE.
>> BRIAN PARKS FROM HELLAS CONSTRUCTION, AND I AM A TAXPAYER IN THE DISTRICT, SO THIS PROJECT MEANS A LOT TO ME.
THE TURF WE PROVIDED YOU IS MATRIX CELEX 46, AND WE CURRENTLY HAVE 19 NFL FIELDS, AND EVERY ONE OF THEM HAS THIS FIBER, WHICH ALL YOUR MEDAL SCHOOLS WILL GET.
IT'S EXPLODED BECAUSE IT'S SAFE, FAST, AND DURABLE.
IT'S CONSISTENT PLAY FROM START TO FINISH, FROM THE END ZONE, ALL THE WAY TO THE SIDELINES.
WHEN YOU HAVE THAT CONSISTENCY, THE FOOT INTERFACE WITH THE CLIQUE IS CONSISTENT, SO THE INJURIES ARE I'M NOT SAYING NONEXISTENT, BUT IT HELPS PREVENT THEM AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
>> SOME INJURY MITIGATION THERE, IS THAT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT?
>> GREAT. OUR MIDDLE SCHOOL KIDS ARE GOING TO BE PLAYING ON NFL FIELD.
JUST PUT THAT OUT THERE, AND YOU WATCH HOW FAST WE GROWS THE DISTRICT NOW.
>> OH, MY GOODNESS. WOW, MY MIND IS GOING A WHOLE BUNCH OF DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS.
THEN THE TIMING, COACH MOFFIT I KNOW, I APPRECIATE, WE'RE GOING TO INTERFERE WITH SOME OF THESE TRACK SEASON.
WE ALSO GOT SOCCER MIDDLE SCHOOL SOCCER IS COMING UP.
WE WERE GOING TO TRY TO GET AS MUCH DONE BETWEEN FOOTBALL AND TRACK, AND THEN AS MUCH DONE AS SOON AS SOCCER IS OVER.
THAT'S WHEN I'M GOING TO START IN MAY.
I BELIEVE SOCCER SEASON ENDS RIGHT AROUND THE START OF MAY.
WE'RE GOING TO FINISH SOCCER BEFORE WE START THE SECOND CYCLE.
>> DOESN'T SOCCER START BEFORE OR AFTER TRACK?
>> WE HAVE OPTIMIZED WHATEVER TIME WE NEED FOR EACH OF THOSE.
>> IT'S TYPICALLY A FOUR MONTH PROJECT.
WE SQUEEZE THOSE FOUR MONTHS, MAY TO AUGUST, NOVEMBER TO FEBRUARY, IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO?
>> THERE IS GOING TO BE SOME OVERLAP, WE CAN'T CONTROL IT.
>> BUT AGAIN, WE'RE COMING UP WITH, LIKE YOU SAID, PLAN B, PLAN C, AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY GETS, FIELD EVENTS, HURDLES, ALL THOSE THINGS THAT REQUIRE.
>> THEN AS FAR AS CLEATS ARE CONCERNED, WE'RE GOING FROM GRASS TO, THE SHOES THAT OUR KIDS WEARING IN SOCCER AND FOOTBALL.
>> YEAH, RELATIVELY, THE SHOES ARE THE SAME, FOR THE MOST PART..
THE OLD DAYS, WHEN YOU AND I PLAYED, THERE'S A DIFFERENT TYPE OF SHOES.
>> THEY WEREN'T THE OLD DAYS. THAT WAS LIKE 10 YEARS AGO,10 YEARS AGO.
>> THAT WAS A DIFFERENT. THAT WAS CARPET LIKE THIS.
INDOOR CARPET AND SO THERE WAS A DIFFERENT TYPE OF SHOE YOU WEAR, BUT TYPICALLY THEY WEAR THE SAME SHOES.
YEAH, I WAS PART OF THE ORIGINAL TURF GATE OGS.
WHEN WE HAD A HARD TIME GETTING PEOPLE TO REALLY BUY INTO THE TURF THING.
I FEEL LIKE WE'RE WAY PAST THAT.
BUT I AM SAD TO SEE IT'S $5.4 MILLION OFF.
SOME OF THESE PROJECTS ARE A THIRD OF THE ENTIRE BUDGET OFF FOR THAT THING.
WE HAVING A HARD TIME GETTING THIS NUMBER RIGHT, MR. CLEAVER, AND I FEEL LIKE WE GOT TO DO SOMETHING BETTER IN THE FUTURE AS WE BOND THESE THINGS OUT.
>> I THINK OUR COMMUNITY IS ON BOARD, BUT IT DOES FEEL DISINGENUOUS TO BE THIS FAR OFF THE MARK. BUT I GET IT.
IT SOUNDS LIKE MAYBE WE WENT WITH A BETTER PRODUCT THAT WE WEREN'T EXPECTING TO GO WITH, AND I DON'T WANT TO GO WITH THE CHEAPEST BECAUSE I WANT IT TO BE QUALITY AND NOT BREAK DOWN HAVE TO BE REPAIRED, ALL OF THAT.
>> YES, MA'AM. THIS WAS SECOND TO LOW BID, BUT I THINK TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION OR TO SPEAK TO YOUR QUESTION DIRECTLY OR YOUR STATEMENT DIRECTLY,
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I THINK THE WAY TO DO IT IS THE WAY WE DID IT ON ALL THE OTHER PROJECTS IS WE HIRE THE DESIGN PROFESSIONAL, WE ACTUALLY GET SUBCONTRACTOR INPUT, AND THAT'S THE NUMBER THAT GOES ON THE BOND PLAN.IT JUST WENT A DIFFERENT DIRECTION.
GOING FORWARD, THAT IS THE BETTER WAY TO GET THE NUMBERS IS HOW WE DID IT FOR THOSE OTHER NUMBERS ON THAT LIST THAT ARE ALL GREEN, RIGHT, THAT HAVE HAVE SOME CONTINGENCY LEFT, YEAH, I FULLY GET THAT, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
>> YEAH, WE'LL GET THERE WITH ALL THE CONTINGENCY WE HAVE, $5.4 MILLION ON A HANDFUL OF MIDDLE SCHOOL TURF PROJECTS IS OUCH.
MR. SAM, WILL YOU JUST WRITE THIS QUESTION DOWN SO WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT THING.
WE DON'T NEED A REHASH TURF ALL NIGHT LONG.
IS WHAT THE CONTINGENCY PLANS MIGHT BE FOR CONCESSIONS AT MIDDLE SCHOOL IF THOSE MIGHT BE IMPACTED?
>> OKAY, TEAM, ANYONE ELSE? THANK YOU GUYS FOR COMING OUT.
APPRECIATE IT. JUST REAL QUICK.
I JUST WANT TO SAY, MAYBE AN ALL BRANCH FOR US.
MAYBE WE SHOULD DO LIKE WITH THESE MICRO SPECIFIC PROJECTS, MAYBE WE SHOULD ASSIGN THE ARCHITECT A LITTLE BIT SOONER BEFORE WE GET TOO CLOSE TO THIS IS NEXT DOWN THE ROAD FOR BOND SEVEN YEARS.
WE CAN ASSIGN AN ARCHITECT A FEW MONTHS SOONER THAN OUR NORMAL CADENCE WOULD BE.
>> THEN WE COULD GO OUT AND GET SOME MORE ACCURATE NUMBERS BEFORE WE GET TO THE BONDS.
JUST FOR THE NEXT BOND THAT WE DO, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
>> THANKS, MAX. I APPRECIATE IT.
THANKS GUYS FOR HANGING IN THERE.
SORRY. I GOT TO LEARN A LOT ABOUT SCHOOL DISTRICT FINANCE, EVERYTHING TONIGHT, SO A GREAT JOB.
TEAM, ARE WE GOOD TO KEEP GOING.
Y'ALL NEED A BREAK? WE GOOD? KEEP GOING.
WE'RE MOVING. WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO L THREE. THIS IS ON PAGE 90.
[L.3. Consideration and possible approval of the 2025 Bond-funded purchase of Computers and Accompanying Maintenance and Support Agreements for use in the CTE Arts and A/V Classrooms at Hays High School, Johnson High School, and Lehman High School - Apple Store for Education]
THIS IS GOING TO BE THE CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE APPROVAL OF 2025 BOND FUNDED PURCHASE OF COMPUTERS AND ACCOMPANYING MAINTENANCE AND SUPPORT AGREEMENTS FOR THE USE IN THE CT ARTS AND AV CLASSROOMS AT HAYS HIGH SCHOOL, JOHNSON HIGH SCHOOL, AND LAYMAN HIGH SCHOOL, FROM THE APPLE STORE FOR EDUCATION.WELCOME, MR. BOO. TAKE IT AWAY.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON. THIS IS AN ITEM THAT ACTUALLY WENT BACK AND LOOKED WAS ON OUR ORIGINAL REQUEST ON THE BOND 2025 AS A DESPERATE NEED FOR REPLACEMENT.
THESE COMPUTERS THAT ARE IN THESE CLASSROOMS WERE FROM 2019 FROM WHEN JOHNSON HIGH SCHOOL OPENED, AND MUCH HAS CHANGED TECHNOLOGY WISE SINCE THEN, SO THIS WILL BE REPLACING THE COMPUTER LABS THAT FEED OUR AUDIO VIDEO AND GRAPHIC DESIGN PROGRAMS AT EACH OF THE THREE COMPREHENSIVE HIGH SCHOOLS.
>> TEAM, JUST REMEMBER, THIS WAS ALL THE 2025 BONDS.
THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE ARE ADVOCATING FOR.
WE'VE ALREADY DONE THIS. TAXPAYERS SAID, YES, WE'RE DOING IT.
THIS IS JUST BRINGING IT FORWARD BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE $143,000 IN OUR THRESHOLD.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'M OPEN TO QUESTIONS, LOOK TO MY LEFT. TO MY RIGHT, MISS RUCK.
>> QUICKLY, WILL YOU JUST PROVIDE US THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS FROM EACH HIGH SCHOOL THAT THIS PROGRAM SERVES? IT'S SUCH AN AMAZING PROGRAM.
I JUST LIKE TO SEE HOW MANY STUDENTS ARE IN THOSE CLASSES.
>> I CAN GET THOSE NUMBERS FOR YOU, I DON'T NEED THEM NOW [OVERLAPPING]
>> GIVE THEM TO ME LATER. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THANK YOU GUYS FOR PRESENTING TONIGHT. I APPRECIATE IT.
>> AWESOME. THANK YOU GUYS VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT.
I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE DOING SOME GREAT THINGS WITHIN THAT DEPARTMENT AT ALL THREE HIGH SCHOOLS.
IT'S BEEN NICE TO SEE SOME OF THAT STUFF ON SOME OF OUR VOLLEYBALL GAMES, BASKETBALL GAMES.
WE'RE GETTING SOME LIVE STREAMING, SOME STUFF FROM THE AV DEPARTMENT, SO WELL DONE. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU.
>> MOVING ON TO L FOUR ON PAGE 94.
[L.4. Consideration and possible approval of an Interlocal Agreement for Participation with ESC 12 for Universal Benefits Consortium for Self-Funded Healthcare Program]
THIS WILL GIVE ME THE CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE APPROVAL OF AN INTER-LOCAL AGREEMENT FOR PARTICIPATION WITH EDUCATION SERVICE CENTER REGION 12 FOR HEALTH BENEFITS, COOPERATIVE, PROCUREMENT.MISS ATMARS, YOU WANT TO GIVE US A QUICK 100,000 VIEW OF WHY WE'RE DOING THIS.
WE ARE EXPLORING AND ATTEMPTING TO MAKE SOME CHANGES FOR OUR HEALTH CARE.
THIS WOULD BE GETTING INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH REGION 12 SO THAT WE CAN HAVE AN INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT TO PROVIDE A SELF FUNDED HEALTHCARE PROGRAM.
TO HELP US GET BETTER COVERAGE, AND HOPEFULLY AT A LOWER PRICE.
HEALTHCARE HAS GONE THROUGH THE ROOF THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.
BUT IF WE CAN, AT THE VERY LEAST, HOLD THE LINE, THAT WOULD BE GREAT, BUT BETTER COVERAGE.
OUR CURRENT COVERAGE IS IT'S COSTLY, NOT JUST IN PREMIUMS, BUT IN OUT OF POCKET COSTS FOR OUR EMPLOYEES.
[02:45:03]
THIS WOULD PROVIDE US AN AVENUE TO DO THAT WITH A VERY REPUTABLE COMPANY THAT THEY ARE VERY ASTUTE.THEY SEEK OUT GOOD COVERAGE, AND WE'LL WORK WITH US IN DETAIL.
>> JUST TO BE CLEAR, THIS ISN'T ACTUALLY SIGNING UP FOR A HEALTHCARE PROVIDER.
THIS IS JUST THE FIRST STEP OF US TO START THE PROCESS TO START INTERVIEWING THAT FOR FUTURE DOWN THE ROAD WHENEVER WE DECIDE TO GO FORWARD WITH THAT.
>> TO CONSIDER DIFFERENT OPTIONS, YES. THAT THEY HAVE. YEAH.
>> MORE EXPLORATORY THAN, YEAH GREAT.
OKAY, TEAM, LOOK TO MY LEFT, MR. FLORES.
>> YEAH. THANK YOU FOR EXPLORING, OTHER OPTIONS, TOO, OBVIOUSLY, FIND COST SAVINGS FOR HEALTHCARE.
WE KNOW, WHERE THAT'S PROJECTED TO GO AS FAR AS COSTS. WE'RE NOT REALLY SURE.
>>I DON'T THINK ANYBODY KNOWS.
>> I JUST KEEPS CHANGING, IT'S EVERYWHERE IN THE COUNTRY.
>> I WOULD SEND YOU TO WASHINGTON, IF YOU KNEW.
[LAUGHTER] BUT IN REGARDS TO THIS IS A NONPROFIT MODEL.
THIS IS A COOPERATIVE THAT WE WOULD BE GETTING INTO.
BUT I DO HAVE JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ON SOMETHING TO EXPLORE.
THE AVAILABILITY AND AS FAR AS BEING IN NETWORK, I HAVE HEARD ABOUT MODELS LIKE THIS WHERE THERE'S LIMITED AVAILABILITY.
IN OTHER WORDS, HEALTHCARE PROVIDERS, THERE'S LIMITED AVAILABILITY IN THE AREA OR IN THE REGION.
I WOULD LOVE TO FIND OUT MORE ABOUT THAT IF THERE'S, WHAT ARE PEOPLE SAYING? ARE THERE DOCTORS THAT ARE TAKING THIS TYPE OF HEALTHCARE COVERAGE, ETC?
>> THERE WOULD BE DIFFERENT OPTIONS, MORE OPTIONS THAN WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.
PEOPLE CAN CHOOSE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS, AND THEY CAN GO IN NETWORK OR OUT OF NETWORK.
OF COURSE, HERE IN THE KYLE AREA, THE MEDICAL INDUSTRY HAS EXPLODED.
THERE'S A LOT OF OPTIONS CLOSE TO HOME OTHER THAN HAVING TO GO TO AUSTIN.
BUT THERE WILL BE LOTS OF OPTIONS FOR PEOPLE TO [OVERLAPPING].
>> FANTASTIC. AS LONG AS THERE ARE OPTIONS, AND WE ARE SAVING MONEY AND THIS IS BETTER FOR OUR STAFF.
THAT SOUNDS FANTASTIC, BUT YEAH, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> YES. THANK YOU. I DO THIS FOR A LIVING, SO THAT I DON'T HAVE ANY REALLY THAT MANY QUESTIONS.
FINE. NO, I KNOW WE SENT OUT A SURVEY TO THE STAFF, MISS CORSON.
HAVE WE RECEIVED THE RESULTS OF THAT SURVEY YET? WE'RE STILL EVALUATING THOSE RESPONSES?
>> WE SENT OUT THE INVITATION FOR THE THOUGHT EXCHANGE THAT CONCLUDED FRIDAY AT MIDNIGHT.
I'LL BE ABLE TO REVIEW THE RESULTS OF THAT AND HAPPILY SHARE THAT WITH THE BOARD.
THAT FEEDBACK WILL ABSOLUTELY BE USED TO GUIDE OUR CONTINUING DISCUSSIONS AS WE CONTINUE TO EXPLORE.
>> YEAH. JUST I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, AGAIN, I DO DO THIS FOR A LIVING.
THE MAJORITY OF OUR HEALTH PLANS FOR ANYBODY WHO WORKS FOR AN EMPLOYER ARE SELF FUNDED.
THIS IS HOW YOU MAY SEE A BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD CARD OR UNITED HEALTHCARE CARD OR WHATEVER IN YOUR WALLET OR ON YOUR PHONE.
BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY'RE YOUR ACTUAL INSURER.
THEY ARE JUST THE ADMINISTRATOR OF YOUR CLAIMS, AND YOUR EMPLOYER IS THE ONE ACTUALLY PAYING THE CLAIMS. THIS IS A DIFFERENT MODEL, BUT IT IS THE MODEL THAT MOST EMPLOYERS ACTUALLY USE IN THE UNITED STATES.
THIS IS NOT FOREIGN OR ANYTHING CRAZY.
THERE ARE POTENTIAL COST SAVINGS ENVIRONMENTS, BUT THE COST OF CLAIMS ARE THE COST OF CLAIMS. HEALTHCARE IN THE US IS EXPENSIVE ACROSS THE BOARD.
THAT BEING ABLE TO SAVE MONEY THERE IS GOING TO BE DEPENDING ON HOW WELL WE CAN MANAGE THE PLAN OVERALL, AND BEING SELF FUNDED DOES ALLOW US TO HAVE MORE LOCAL CONTROL OVER HOW WE ARE ABLE TO USE THAT MONEY AND MANAGE OUR PROGRAM A LITTLE BIT MORE EFFICIENTLY AND MORE EFFECTIVELY.
I LOOK FORWARD TO THIS PROGRESSING FROM HERE BECAUSE IT IS EXCITING, BUT, YOU WANT TO CAUTION A LITTLE BIT THAT MAY NOT PROVIDE, LIKE THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF SAVINGS, BUT IT DOES GIVE US A LOT MORE AUTONOMY, A LOT MORE CONTROL OVER WHAT WE'RE DOING AND A LOT MORE ABILITY TO CATER PROGRAM TO EXACTLY WHAT OUR EMPLOYEES NEED, AND AGAIN, MORE EMPLOYEE FRIENDLY ENVIRONMENT FOR OUR STAFF.
>> JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON WHAT YOU JUST SAID, THE THEME THAT I WILL TELL YOU IN TAKING A LOOK AT THE FEEDBACK IS THAT, IT'S NOT ENOUGH TO HAVE HEALTH INSURANCE THAT YOU CAN AFFORD.
YOU GOT TO HAVE HEALTH INSURANCE THAT YOU CAN AFFORD TO USE.
THAT MEANS PRESCRIPTIONS, THAT MEANS ACCESS TO DEVICES, ACCESS TO PROCEDURES.
WE HAVE RECEIVED AMAZING FEEDBACK ABOUT THE VERY SPECIFIC THINGS THAT ARE FREQUENTLY DIFFICULT TO ACCESS EVEN WITH INSURANCE.
[02:50:07]
WE ARE LOOKING AT ALL OF IT.>> I WILL SAY THAT THAT IS OBVIOUSLY, WITH TRS, YOU THINK OBVIOUSLY BUILT FOR EDUCATORS.
I THINK THERE ARE STILL SOME ACCESS POINT ISSUES WITH THE UNIQUE EMPLOYMENT ENVIRONMENT OF TEACHERS AND THEIR ABILITY TO FIND TIME TO GET THE CARE THAT THEY NEED WHEN THEY NEED IT IS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT, EXCITED TO SEE WHAT UBC BENEFITS AND ESC 12 BRING TO THE TABLE ON THAT FRONT.
TO HELP OUR TEACHERS AND STAFF WHO HAVE LIMITED ABILITY TO GET CARE WHEN THEY NEED IT TO DO IT, BUT YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT.
HEALTH CARE IS REALLY ALL ABOUT BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE THE CARE IN AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE THEY CAN AFFORD IT AND IMPROVE THE HEALTHINESS OF THE STAFF AND REDUCE COSTS, TRIPLE AIM, HEALTHCARE, AS I SAY, SO THANK YOU.
>> YEAH, TEAM, JUST TO TEMPER THE EXPECTATIONS.
THIS COULD PROBABLY SAVE SOME MONEY, BUT NOT FOR PROBABLY A FEW YEARS AFTER WE IMPLEMENTED IT.
DROP THE BAT WOULD PROBABLY HAVE SOME BETTER OPTIONS FOR OUR STAFF, BUT WE WOULDN'T START TO SEE SOME REAL COST SAVINGS, PROBABLY FOR A FEW YEARS DOWN THE ROAD.
GREAT. THANK YOU, TEAM. MOVING ON.
WE ARE NOW GOING TO L FIVE OR L FIVE ON PAGE 105.
[L.5. Consideration and possible approval of the purchase of District Vehicle Leased Fleet - Enterprise Rent-A-Car]
THIS IS GOING TO BE OUR CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE APPROVAL OF THE PURCHASE OF DISTRICT VEHICLE LEASED FLEET. SOMMERS.>> WELCOME TO FLEET VEHICLE MANAGEMENT.
YOU WANT TO WALK US THROUGH THIS REAL QUICK?
>> CERTAINLY. AS THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS BEEN GROWING, MORE AND MORE VEHICLES ARE NEEDED, AND ONE WAY TO OBTAIN VEHICLES WITHOUT PAYING FOR THE FULL COST OUTRIGHT IS TO SET UP LEASES.
LEASES HAVE THEIR MERITS AND THEIR DEMERITS, FOR SURE.
WHEN WE FIRST STARTED PURCHASING THESE, WE DIDN'T HAVE FUNDS AVAILABLE TO BE ABLE TO PURCHASE THEM OUTRIGHT.
BOND FUNDS AND BOND INTEREST DOES ALLOW FOR THAT TO BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY PURCHASE THE VEHICLES, RATHER THAN LEASING, IT'S LESS COSTLY AND LESS PAPERWORK AND EVERYTHING THAT GOES ALONG WITH IT, AND THEN YOU ACTUALLY OWN THE ASSETS.
AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WE HAVE 44 VEHICLES ON LEASES, AND WE WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER PURCHASING THOSE OUTRIGHT INSTEAD OF CONTINUING ON WITH THE LEASES.
`>> GREAT. THANK YOU. TEAM TO MY RIGHT, MR. VALA.
>> MISS OMERS, THANK YOU. IN THE PURCHASE OF THESE VEHICLES, WHO'S DOING THE MAINTENANCE ON THEM RIGHT NOW?
>> WE HAVE A MAINTENANCE PROGRAM WITH THE LEASING COMPANY.
THEY'RE NOT DOING THE MAINTENANCE, BUT WE'RE IN ESSENCE FINANCING INSURANCE TO PAY FOR THE MAINTENANCE.
WE LIKELY WOULD CONTINUE SOME OF THOSE MAINTENANCE BECAUSE WE CAN'T JUST SUDDENLY MAINTAIN 44 VEHICLES ON OUR OWN.
WE PROBABLY WILL PUT OUT AN RFP TO GET OUR OWN AGREEMENTS WITH THE MAINTENANCE COMPANIES AND IN ESSENCE, LIKELY JUST KEEP THE SAME PROGRAM GOING, BUT IT WOULD BE WITH US DIRECTLY, AND WE WOULDN'T HAVE THE MIDDLEMAN OF THE LEASING COMPANY.
>> THEN THE CONDITION AND THE USEFUL LIFE OF THESE VEHICLES.
I MEAN, HAVE WE HAD THEM FROM MILE ZERO TO WHERE THEY ARE? WE GOT THEM BRAND NEW OR RELEASED THE BRAND NEW.
I MEAN, WE KNOW THE VEHICLES THAT WE ARE LOOKING TO PURCHASE.
THEN WHAT DOES THIS LOOK LIKE IN THE NEXT PURCHASE CYCLE? I MEAN, HOW OFTEN IS THAT GOING TO BE COMING UP?
>> WELL, THEY HAVE A WHOLE LIST OF ITEMS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO REPLACE.
>> PART OF WHAT ENTERPRISE FLEET DOES IS THEY HAVE ACTUALLY LOOKED AT OUR TEN YEAR PLAN.
I WANT TO SAY THERE'S ABOUT 60 VEHICLES THAT ARE IN THE WINDOW, BUT PROBABLY MORE LIKE ABOUT 20 OF THEM THAT ARE I'D SAY APPROACHING CRITICAL, AND NOT CRITICAL BECAUSE OF SAFETY, BUT CRITICAL BECAUSE THREE OF THEM HAVE THEIR STICK SHIFTS, AND SOME OF THESE YOUNG KIDS LOOK AT THEM [OVERLAPPING] WHAT DO YOU DO WITH THAT.
JUST TO MODERNIZE THE FLEET, THEY'VE ALSO HELPED WITH THAT.
I THINK THE ANSWER WOULD BE NOW THAT TALKING WITH DEBORA, WOULD PROBABLY BE JUST TO ACTUALLY TRY ON EACH BOND, JUST HAVE A VEHICLE SECTION AND JUST BUY THEM OUT RIGHT EACH BOND OPPORTUNITY.
[02:55:02]
>> THEN THOSE THAT YOU SAY THAT ARE REACHING CRITICAL BECAUSE THEY'RE SIX SHIFT OR WHATEVER REASON?
>> THEY JUST BECOME PART OF THE SURPLUS [OVERLAPPING]
>> TWO HUNDRED AND TWENTY THOUSAND MILES, IT'S TIME.
>> WE'RE LOOKING TO PURCHASE THOSE AS WELL?
>> I WAS SAYING THAT PART OF WHAT THEY ALSO DO IS THEY'RE HELPING US WITH LOOKING AT OUR FLEET AND WHAT NEEDS TO BE MODERNIZED.
I WAS LIKE, WE PUT 220,000 MILES ON A VEHICLE ALREADY?
>> I THINK THE LIST THAT I SAW, THE OLDEST ONE WAS 2004.
WE DO HAVE SOME OLDER VEHICLES.
>> IT WAS A GOOD YEAR, BUT ANYWAY. THAT'S ALL I GOT.
>> YES, MR. CLEAVER, MISS OMERS, CAN YOU TELL ME HOW THIS IS TIED TO THE 2025 BOND? BOND SUPPORT. CAN YOU GIVE ME A LIST OF OR GIVE US A LIST OF WHO ALL OF THESE VEHICLES ARE TIED TO, WHETHER IT'S DEPARTMENT OR PERSON?
DOES IT HAVE THE DEPARTMENT ON THERE?
>> IT'S NOT ON THE DOCUMENT THAT WE HAVE, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE MISS GLORIA HAS IT, SO SHE'S GOING TO PROVIDE IT TO US.
WONDERFUL. IF YOU'LL JUST PROVIDE THAT TO US.
QUESTION. THESE ARE A LOT OF VEHICLES.
DO ALL OF THESE VEHICLES, DO THEY STAY PARKED HERE AT ADMIN OR AT THE CAMPUSES, WHEREVER THEY ARE?
>> EITHER HERE OR AT BEACON HILL OR AT TRANSPORTATION IN N, BUT THEY'RE ALL BEHIND A FENCE SOMEWHERE AT NIGHT.
>> THE AREAS, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, THERE VARIOUS OPERATIONAL AREAS.
THERE'S SOME ATHLETICS, FINE ARTS, TECHNOLOGY, SAFETY AND SECURITY.
ALL OF THOSE AREAS WERE ON THE BOND.
A LOT OF WORK DONE IN ALL OF THOSE AREAS IN THERE.
>> IF YOU'LL JUST PUT THE DEPARTMENT AND TIE A NAME TO IT, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR ME.
THAT WOULD BE GREAT. MISS GLORIA SAID SHE'S GOT IT. I'LL TAKE CARE OF IT.
>> MR. FLORES, NO. A, MR. SEIBEL THEN MR. FLORES.
>> I APPRECIATE YOU ANSWERING THE QUESTION ON BOARD BLOG MAX. I WAS ACTUALLY SURPRISED.
I WAS LIKE, LOOKING THROUGH, I MAY OR MAY NOT BE SHOPPING, FOR TRUCKS AND JUST LOOKING AND I WAS LIKE, THESE ARE NOT BAD DEALS FOR SOME OF THESE, PAY OFF SOME, SO I WAS SURPRISED.
I WAS LIKE, HOPEFULLY, THAT'S WHY WE ACTUALLY STICK TO THE PRICING ON THIS, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE YOU GOT THAT UNDER CONTROL.
BUT I ALSO KNOW, JUST IN SEEING AT THE STATE OF THE DISTRICT LAST WEEK, WE HAVE A WONDERFUL AUTO MECHANIC PROGRAM BY MR BOW.
CAN WE PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR STUDENTS TO DO SOME OF THE WORK ON ANY OF THESE VEHICLES? BECAUSE I KNOW PUTTING IT ALL ON OUR MAINTENANCE STAFF RIGHT NOW IS TOO MUCH, BUT, WE HAVE OTHER STUDENTS THAT ARE FULLY CAPABLE.
>> ACTUALLY, I THINK CASSANDRA AND RICK WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT, AND I WANT TO SAY THERE'S, MAYBE HALF A DOZEN STUDENTS HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED AS POSSIBILITIES FOR SOME INTERNSHIPS.
>> I LOVE IT. YOU GUYS ARE BRIGHT, ALREADY THOUGHT AHEAD. AWESOME.
>> MR. SEIBEL, ALSO STILL MY QUESTION.
I WAS VERY CURIOUS ABOUT THAT ABOUT OPPORTUNITIES FOR STUDENTS. BUT I WAS CURIOUS.
DOES THIS 1,300,000 INCLUDE INSURANCE AS WELL, COMMERCIAL AUTO INSURANCE FOR ANY OF THESE VEHICLES?
>> NO, THAT'S COMPLETELY SEPARATE.
OUR INSURANCE IS ALL THROUGH THE GENERAL FUND.
>> I GUESS THAT WAS JUST MY QUESTION ON WHERE WE WILL SEE THAT.
BUT, OTHERWISE, I LOVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR STUDENTS WHO ARE VERY TALENTED AT EACH OF OUR HIGH SCHOOLS TO WORK ON SOME OF THESE, AND WOULD THAT BE GREAT? THANK YOU.
>> MY ONLY QUESTION WAS, ONCE WE TAKE POSSESSION OF THESE, IS THERE A DEPRECIATION BENEFIT THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET WITH THIS AT ALL?
>> NOT IN THE SENSE THAT YOU'RE THINKING OF IT.
WE HAVE POSSESSION OF THE VEHICLES ALREADY.
I MEAN, THIS WOULD BE THE SAME IF YOU'RE LEASING A CAR FOR YOURSELF, YOU HAVE THE CAR, YOU DO THE MAINTENANCE, YOU HAVE THE INSURANCE.
THAT'S ALL SEPARATE FROM WHAT YOU PAY THE LEASING COMPANY.
BASICALLY, WHEN YOU HAVE A LEASE, WE'RE JUST PAYING THEM OVER TIME, JUST LIKE IF THE BANK OWNED IT MORE OR LESS.
DEPRECIATION IS REALLY ONLY A MATTER OF FINANCIAL HELP IN A FOR PROFIT COMPANY.
WE DO RECORD IT, BUT, IT'S NOT LIKE IT GETS DOWN TO THE BOTTOM LINE AND HOW MUCH YOU GIVE OUT TO YOUR SHAREHOLDERS AS A RETURN.
IT ISN'T ANYTHING THAT REALLY BENEFITS US ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
>> AWESOME. THANK YOU FOR CLEARING THAT FOR US. ANYBODY ELSE?
[03:00:03]
NOPE. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU, MISS OMERS.APPRECIATE IT. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO L6.
MISS OMERS, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE EFFICIENCY AUDIT IN SECTION.
TEAM, WE'LL VOTE NEXT WEEK TO ACCEPT THE AUDIT AND THIS L6 FOR NEXT WEEK.
[L.7. Consideration and possible approval of Guaranteed Maximum Price 1 for 2025 Bond Renovations and Additions at McCormick Middle School]
THIS IS THE CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE APPROVAL, THE GUARANTEE MAXIMUM PRICE ONE FOR THE 2025 BOND RENOVATIONS AND ADDITIONS AT MCCORMICK MIDDLE SCHOOL.>> YES, SIR, ON PAGE 110, LIKE YOU SAID.
THIS IS THE PROJECT THAT HAS GONE AROUND THE BLOCK A LITTLE BIT.
THE SD WAS PROVIDED BY BARTLETT ALMOST A YEAR AGO, OCTOBER 2024.
THEN THE DD WAS PROVIDED NOT TOO LONG AGO BY OCR.
SEE WHEN WAS THAT IN AUGUST OF 2025, WE HIRED JORIS ON THIS LATEST RFQ.
IT'S FOR SPECIFICALLY THE BUS DRIVE AT MCCORMICK MIDDLE SCHOOL, ALONG WITH A FEW OF JUST THE SITE UTILITIES THAT HAVE TO BE DONE FOR THAT FUTURE WEIGHT ROOM.
ON PAGE 111, IF YOU LOOK AT THAT, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE BUS DRIVE GMP IS $1,049,175.
THEN WHAT I DID ON THE SUM OF THE SD, I JUST TOOK THE OTHER TWO ADDITION WHERE IT SAYS CONSTRUCTION ADDITIONS AND RENOVATIONS AND ADDED THOSE.
YOU CAN SEE THAT AS IT'S TRACKING RIGHT NOW, AND TIME WILL TELL AND GMP2 IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS WILL TELL, RIGHT NOW IT'S SHOWING THAT THIS WOULD FINISH ABOUT $600,000 OVER BUDGET.
BUT AGAIN, THAT IS AN ESTIMATE, AND THEN THE GMP2 WOULD TELL US THE TRUTH ON THAT, WHERE IT'S REALLY GOING TO LAND.
THESE NUMBERS ARE CONTAINED ON THAT BOND LOOK AHEAD, AS WELL.
>> THANK YOU, MR. CLEAVER. TEAM LOOK TO MY RIGHT.
>> TO THE LEFT. OKAY. A COUPLE OF THINGS.
WELCOME JORIS TO THE CONSTRUCTION WORLD WITH ACST.
THIS IS YOUR FIRST PROJECT, I BELIEVE, NEW CONTRACT FOR US.
>> MR. MARTINEZ, HE'S AT A PREVIOUSLY SCHEDULED TRAINING EVENT.
HE SAID HE SORRY, COULDN'T BE HERE, BUT HE WAS ALREADY SCHEDULED FOR SOMETHING [OVERLAPPING]
>> I ALSO THINK THAT MISS CASSANDRA IS PROBABLY GLAD TO HAVE A SECONDARY EXIT FOR MCCORMICK MIDDLE SCHOOL, AND IT'S JUST CADENCE.
MOVING FORWARD, ANY SCHOOLS THAT WE BUILD, WE SHOULD PROBABLY HAVE NINE EXITS, AT LEAST INSTEAD OF JUST ONE. I APPRECIATE WE'RE GETTING THIS.
I KNOW WE DID A BUS LOOP AT DALCAM NOT RECENTLY, SO I THINK THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT WE LEARNED AT THAT ONE THAT WE CAN EMPLOY ON THIS ONE.
ANYWAY, WELCOME WELCOME JORIS TO ACST.
>> ALL RIGHT, TEAM. WE'VE DONE NUMBER L8.
WE'RE GOING TO GO TO L9 ON PAGE 118.
[L.9. Consideration and possible approval of a Real Estate Exchange Agreement with Walton Development Group for School Tracts located in Camino Real East]
THIS IS GOING TO BE THE CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE APPROVAL OF A REAL ESTATE EXCHANGE AGREEMENT WITH WALTON DEVELOPMENT GROUP FOR SCHOOL TREKS LOCATED IN CAMINO RIAL EAST.NOW, MAXIMER, YOU HAD SENT SOMETHING.
>> YES, WE HAVE SENT AN UPDATE IN BARBARA.
DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SHOW? THIS ONE, I'M GOING TO START BY SAYING EVERYTHING YOU ALWAYS READ ON THE INTERNET IS NOT TRUE.
THERE'S EVEN THINGS THAT ARE ON WEBSITES THAT YOU GO TO FOR INFORMATION.
SOMETIMES THINGS LAG OR THE INFORMATION JUST DOESN'T GET THERE. LONG STORY, SHORT.
WHAT THIS IS BACK IN 2014, PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION ENTERED INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH THE WALTON GROUP FOR SOME LAND OUT IN CAMINO EAST, WITH THE KNOWLEDGE THAT THE FUTURE ROAD ALIGNMENTS MIGHT CHANGE, THINGS MIGHT CHANGE.
WE DON'T KNOW, FROM 2014 TO NOW WHAT ALL WAS GOING TO HAPPEN.
BUT WHAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN THERE IS THE MOST RECENT EDITION OF WHAT WE THINK IS GOING TO HAPPEN OUT IN CAMINO EAST.
IN THIS PARTICULAR EXHIBIT, WHAT YOU'RE SEEING THERE IN THESE, I GUESS THAT'S ORANGE, THAT'S WALTON PROPERTY THAT'S GOING TO BE TRANSFERRED TO US, AND YOU CAN SEE WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING, AND THAT'S A TOTAL OF 52.2 ACRES.
IS THERE NOW? VERY GOOD, 52.2 ACRES.
THAT CONSISTS OF THIS MAIN PROPERTY A, AND THESE TWO SUB PROPERTIES, PROPERTY B1 AND B2.
THAT WALTON IS WANTING TO SWAP THOSE 52.2 ACRES, FOUR ON THE NEXT SLIDE, OR IF YOU'LL SCROLL DOWN.
NO, ACTUALLY, JUST SCROLL DOWN ON THIS SIDE, THIS SLIDE HERE.
THIS PIECE HERE, AND THIS SMALL PIECE UP HERE THAT IS THE SEPTIC FIELD FOR CAMINO REAL.
[03:05:04]
THE SWAP WOULD BE BASICALLY THAT'S OUR 50 ACRES FOR THEIR 52 ACRES.WHAT THAT DOES FOR US IS AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE'RE ALIGNED WITH BETTER ROADS, AND WE HAVE MORE CONTIGUOUS PROPERTY TO BUILD ON.
THIS PARTICULAR SITE HERE WILL BE THE MIDDLE SCHOOL SITE, AND WE'RE ABLE TO ACTUALLY JUST DRAIN RIGHT INTO THE CREEK HERE.
THEN THIS SITE HERE THIS CURRENTLY 79 ACRES THAT'S OURS, OVERALL, WILL BE AN 82 ACRE HIGH SCHOOL SITE WHEN IT'S DONE WITH INSTEAD OF JUST ONE STREET OF FRONTAGE RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS RODY ROAD.
IT WILL HAVE RODY ROAD PLUS THIS STREET PLUS THE ALIGNMENT OF 2001.
TO YOUR POINT ABOUT NOT HAVING JUST ONE ENTRANCE, THERE'S THREE ROADS ON THAT ONE.
THE ATTORNEY WAS WANTING TO PULL HER HAIR OUT ON THIS WHEN THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PARTS HERE.
IT'S GOING TO BE ONE CLOSING WITH THREE DIFFERENT TRIGGER POINTS TO MAKE THESE TRANSACTIONS OCCUR.
THIS HIGH SCHOOL TRACT, THAT I BELIEVE IT CAN CLOSE IMMEDIATELY BECAUSE IT HAS ACCESS FROM RODY ROAD.
THIS MIDDLE TRACT CAN'T CLOSE UNTIL THERE'S ACCESS FROM A PUBLIC ROAD.
THE TRIGGER THERE WILL BE A PUBLIC ROAD CONSTRUCTED.
THIS PARTICULAR TRACT CAN'T TRANSFER UNTIL SEPTIC IS AVAILABLE.
THAT'S PROBABLY THE FURTHERST TRACK TO TRANSFER.
WE WANT TO HAVE ONE CLOSING, BUT THREE TRIGGER POINTS, AND THESE WILL BE EXTENDED BY EASEMENTS, I BELIEVE, IS THE MECHANISM TO GET THERE SO THAT WE CAN HAVE ONE CLOSING AND JUST DO THIS ONE TIME. ANY QUESTIONS?
WE'RE JUST APPROVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THIS AND NEGOTIATE THE DOCUMENTS.
THEN ONCE THOSE THINGS HAPPEN, THEN WE WILL CLOSE ON ALL THREE PROPERTIES OR ALL THREE AT ONE TIME.
THAT'S RIGHT. THE POINT OF THIS IS TO ENTER INTO THE REAL ESTATE EXCHANGE AGREEMENT THAT LINES ALL THIS OUT.
YOU'LL ARE BASICALLY SAYING, YES, WE AGREE THAT WE'LL SWAP OUR 50 ACRES FOR YOUR 52. THAT SOUNDS RIGHT.
WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS REAL ESTATE AGREEMENT WITH THESE THREE DIFFERENT TRIGGER POINTS.
LIKE I SAID, WE WANT TO SIGN THE REAL ESTATE AGREEMENT FIRST, AND THEN THAT'LL TELL US WHEN THE CLOSING DATE WILL BE.
JUST BEFORE WE OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS TO CLARIFY SOMETHING YOU SAID, THE SMALL SEPTIC FIELD THAT'S FOR CAMINO RIGHT NOW, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL CAMINO GETS ON CITY WATER.
>> THAT'S RIGHT. IN OTHER WORDS, WE CAN'T [OVERLAPPING]
>> THAT'S THE PRIMER FOR THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY.
ONCE THIS DEVELOPMENT GETS GOING FIRST.
>> THAT'S RIGHT. ONCE THERE'S ACTUALLY A PLACE FOR THAT FLOW TO GO, WE WOULD SWITCH THAT OVER AND THEN THEY CAN DO IT.
THIS TRACT HERE, THE HIGH SCHOOL TRACT ON RODY ROAD, I BELIEVE, CAN TRANSFER NOW BECAUSE THERE'S NO IMPEDIMENT TO GETTING TO IT, AND THERE'S NO SEWER NEEDED YET OR ANYTHING.
BUT THEN THIS MIDDLE ONE HERE, IT'S LITERALLY OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FIELD, SO WE WOULD HAVE NO ACCESS TO IT UNTIL SUCH A POINT WHERE THERE'S A PUBLIC ROAD TO IT, WHICH IS GOING TO BE DRAWN HERE AS PART OF THE AGREEMENT.
THIS IS WHAT THE FINAL SUBDIVISION WILL LOOK LIKE.
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. TEAM, LOOK TO MY RIGHT, MISS RACHLE.
>> THIS IS IN, I BELIEVE, THE ETJ.
PIECES OF IT ARE IN THE ETJ OF NIEDERWALD.
>> THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAD. JUST MAKING SURE IT WASN'T A CERTAIN ANOTHER ONE.
>> HEY, SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WITH SOME OF THE TRIGGERS, SOME OF THIS MAY BE NOT HAPPENING ANYTIME SOON, IS THAT RIGHT?
>> I WOULD SAY WILL BE WITHIN, SAY, THREE YEARS, FOUR YEARS.
>> ARE YOU GOING TO BE HERE? BECAUSE HERE'S WHY I SAID THIS.
ESPERANZA AND I ARE THE ONLY ONES WHO REMEMBER THE DEAL WE MADE WITH THE YMCA WITH THE POOL.
WHICH I HAVE TO REMIND THEM ABOUT THAT WE GET FIRST DIBS ON A 30 YEAR LEASE WITH YMCA.
IT COMES UP, AS YOU KNOW, COACH MOP IT'S GONE NOW, BUT, I HAVE THAT ORIGINAL DOCUMENT.
I'M NOT SURE ANYBODY ELSE DOES IN THE DISTRICT.
I'M GOING TO TRUST YOU. MR. CLEAVER.
>> TO RECORD IT FOR POSTERITY.
>> IT MIGHT TAKE A MINUTE FOR SOME OF THESE ROADS TO COME ONLINE OR SEPTICS AND ALL OF THAT.
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I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO GO TRACK DOWN AN ATTORNEY, DID YOU DO THIS?>> THIS WILL ACTUALLY BE RECORDED.
>> MISS. GLORIA IS GOING TO RETIRE HERE, SO SHE'S GOT IT. SHE'S GOT IT.
>> MR. CLEAVER, HOW DO WE KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT TRADING PARK PLACE AND BOARDWALK FOR BALTIC AVENUE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I SAID, HEY, AM I SELLING LIKE THE TOP OF THE HILL, AND THEN I'M GONNA HAVE TO BUY THE DIRT BACK FROM YOU TO FILL IT?
>> OUR NET GAIN OF TWO ACRES, IT SOUNDS GREAT.
>> WE HAD OUR ENGINEER DO A CUT AND FILL ANALYSIS.
WHAT WE'RE GIVING AWAY AND WHAT WE'RE GAINING IS ESSENTIALLY THE SAME.
>> WE'RE MAINTAINING ALL THE MINERAL RIGHTS AND ALL THAT GOOD STUFF?
>> THE MINERAL RIGHTS ARE SPOKEN FOR IN THE [OVERLAPPING].
>> MISS GLORIA IS GOING TO TO KEEP THOSE RECORDS.
>> THERE WE GO. WE'RE ALL COMPLETE NOW. THANK YOU.
>> MAX, SO JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE OUR RESPONSIBILITY FOR US.
YOU'RE NOT PUTTING IN THE AGREEMENT THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BUILD A CONNECTING ROAD FOR THAT MIDDLE SCHOOL PROPERTY.
NO SIR. THAT'S ON THE [OVERLAPPING]..
>> THE ROADS AROUND THAT MIDDLE SCHOOL WILL BE THE DEVELOPER'S RESPONSIBILITY.
>> THEN ALSO, THIS IS A COMMUNITY DREAM.
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A HIGH SCHOOL, MIDDLE SCHOOL, AND AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, ALL WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT TWO MILES IS ON THIS MAP, BUT I'M ASSUMING THAT'S GOING TO BE ALL WALKING DISTANCE WITHIN THAT COMMUNITY.
>> WELL, EXCEPT FOR THAT 2001, THERE MIGHT BE A HAZARDOUS CONDITION.
>> I'M NOT TRYING TO MAKE LIGHT OF IT.
I'M JUST SAYING THAT'S A PRETTY GREAT COMMUNITY OPPORTUNITY WHERE YOU CAN GROW UP ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, MIDDLE SCHOOL, AND HIGH SCHOOL ALL WITHIN THE SAME AREA. I THINK THAT'S PRETTY GREAT.
>> FOR 15 YEARS WHEN WE'RE ALL NOT HERE ANYMORE.
>> I APPRECIATE IT. NOW WE'RE MOVING ON TO L10.
[L.10. Consideration and possible action in accordance with Policy BDB (Local) for the appointment of Board Subcommittees for Safety and Security, Board Policy, and Budget]
THIS IS ON PAGE 130.THIS IS GOING TO BE THE CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE ACTION IN ACCORDANCE WITH POLICY BDB, LOCAL FOR THE APPOINTMENT OF SUBCOMMITTEES FOR SAFETY SECURITY BOARD POLICY AND BUDGET.
TEAM BROUGHT THIS UP BECAUSE BECAUSE OF POLICY UP DATE FROM 125, WE HAVE TO CODIFY BOARD COMMITTEES AND HOW WE DO THEM INTO POLICY.
THAT'S WHAT THIS IS. THE LOCAL POLICY TALKS ABOUT HOW WE DO IT, WHO'S ON IT, SO TO SPEAK.
I JUST WANTED TO GENERALLY SAY THAT WE HAVE A POLICY COMMITTEE WITH THREE MEMBERS ON IT.
MR. OROSCO, MS. PETRIE, MISS RUNKLE, WE HAVE A BUDGET COMMITTEE WITH THREE MEMBERS, MR. SEVERANCE, MR. OROSCO, MR. SEIBEL, AND THEN THE SAFETY AND SECURITY COMMITTEE, WE HAVE MR. VALA AND MR. SEVERANCE. THIS JUST CODIFIES THAT FOR US FROM TRANSPARENCY.
THEN GOING FORWARD, IT'S JUST ACTION IN, ACTION OUT, THE BOARD PRESIDENT WILL NOMINATE PEOPLE TO THE COMMITTEE AND THEN WE CAN TAKE BOARD ACTION IF WE NEED TO TO REMOVE COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
THIS IS JUST A BOARD THING FOR US THAT WE GET TO VOTE ON NEXT WEEK, JUST TO CODIFY HOW WE DO THE PROCESS NOW.
TO MY LEFT QUESTIONS ON THIS. MISS RUNKLE.
>> YES, THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS AND PROVIDING THIS BREAKDOWN.
I WOULD JUST LIKE FOR US TO BE MINDFUL AS WE MOVE FORWARD, AND I KNOW THAT THIS IS UP TO THE BOARD PRESIDENT ON ASSIGNING COMMITTEES, BUT THE NEXT PRESIDENT IN MOVING FORWARD, THAT WE JUST HAVE A DIVERSE GROUP OF BOARD MEMBERS THAT ARE ON THESE COMMITTEES, WHERE WE HAVE AT LEAST ONE BOARD MEMBER ON ONE OF THE COMMITTEES BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, JOHNNY'S NOT ON ANY OF THE COMMITTEES.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO BE A BOARD THAT DOES THESE SUBCOMMITTEES, THAT WE JUST MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE EQUITABLE ACROSS THE BOARD WITH BOARD MEMBERS.
I THINK THAT'S ONLY FAIR AND THAT GIVES A GOOD REPRESENTATION OF THE ENTIRE BOARD.
THAT'S THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY MOVING FORWARD.
>> GOT IT. I THINK A LOT OF THIS HAS TO DO WITH THE EXPERIENCE AND EXPERTISE WITHIN SOME OF THESE SUBCOMMITTE FIELDS, SO DULY NOTED, GOT IT.
TEAM, THAT'LL BE FOR NEXT WEEK.
ANYBODY WHO HAS QUESTIONS ON THAT? NO? WE'RE MOVING RIGHT ALONG.
[L.11. Consideration and possible Vote to Elect Directors of the Hays Central Appraisal District]
THE LAST ACTION ITEM WILL BE L11 ON PAGE 134.THIS IS GOING TO BE THE CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE VOTE TO ELECT DIRECTOR OF THE HAYS COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT.
THIS IS BEING BROUGHT FORWARD AGAIN BECAUSE, MY BAD,
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MARK WAS ALREADY ON FOR FOUR YEARS, AND MS [INAUDIBLE] WAS NOT, SO NOW WE'RE BRINGING JUST HER BACK TO DO THIS FOR NEXT WEEK.THAT'LL BE ON FOR THE NEXT AGENDA, [INAUDIBLE] VOTE.
TEAM, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS? TO MY LEFT? NO? WE'RE GOING TO VOTE ON THAT FOR NEXT YEAR.
WE'RE GOING TO MOVE INTO OUR INFORMATIONAL ITEMS M1.
[M.1. Discussion of Districtwide Intruder Detection Audit Report Findings]
THIS IS GOING TO BE OUR DISCUSSION OF DISTRICT INTER-DETECTION AUDIT REPORT FINDINGS.MS.SKROCKI, WELCOME TO THE MIC. THANKS FOR HANGING IN.
>> GOOD EVENING. AS EVERYONE KNOWS, TEA HAS MADE IT PART OF OUR PROTOCOL THAT WE HAVE WHAT THEY CALL INTRUDER DETECTION AUDITS.
WE RECEIVED 100% OF OUR CAMPUSES WHO RECEIVE A VISIT BY A TEA AUDITOR.
WE RECENTLY HAD A FINDING ON ONE OF OUR CAMPUSES IN REGARDS TO AN EXTERIOR DOOR THAT WAS NOT COMPLETELY SECURED.
OUR AUDITOR DID FIND THAT DOOR WAS NOT PROPERLY SECURED.
IT WAS CLOSED, BUT IT DID NOT COMPLETELY LATCH.
ULTIMATELY, WHAT OCCURRED AS WE WENT AND DID A AUDIT.
WE WERE VERY LUCKY THAT WE HAD VIDEO RECORDING OF THAT PARTICULAR DOOR.
WHAT WE FOUND IS THAT WE DID HAVE SOME STUDENTS IN THE AREA OF THAT PARTICULAR DOOR WHO WERE LEANING ON IT.
THEN BASICALLY, IT CAME SLIGHTLY AJAR, AND THEN THEY DID NOT PROPERLY SECURE IT AFTERWARDS.
WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS PUT INTO PLACE ON THIS PARTICULAR AREA.
WE ADJUSTED THE CLOSER ON THE DOOR.
IT'S REALLY SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL OF.
WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE IT SO STRONG THAT IT'S TAKEN FINGERS OFF, BUT YET AT THE SAME TIME, IT IS CLOSING PROPERLY.
THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION SOMETIMES AS WELL.
AIR CONDITIONING COMES ON, ETC, IT'LL CREATE A LITTLE BIT OF A SUCTION, AND THOSE DOORS DON'T CLOSE PROPERLY.
THESE DOORS WERE EQUIPPED WITH ALL OF OUR SIGNS, MAKE SURE THE DOORS CLOSED BEHIND YOU, ETC.
BUT WHAT WE HAVE DONE IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA IS WE NOW HAVE A PROCESS IN PLACE WITH THE TEACHERS IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA, BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT OF STUDENT MOVEMENT BY THIS PARTICULAR DOOR.
THEY ARE MANAGING IT AT THIS POINT NOW WITH A REGULAR CHECK EVERY CLASS PERIOD BEFORE AND AFTER TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S MAINTAINED.
>> THANK YOU, MS. SKROCKI. TEAM TO RIGHT ANY QUESTIONS HERE? TO MY LEFT? OKAY, IT'S UNFORTUNATE.
I KNOW WE HAVE SOME OF THOSE MECHANISMS THAT LATCH THOSE DOORS AUTOMATICALLY.
IT CAN GET US, AND THAT'S WHAT GOT US..
>> DARN, THOSE KIDS LEANING AGAINST THE DOORS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> APPRECIATE IT. M2 UPDATE ON DISTRICT SAFETY AND SECURITY INITIATIVES.
MS. SKROCKI, DO YOU HAVE ANY UPDATES BESIDES THAT? TEAM. M3. UPDATE ON DISTRICT BOND CONSTRUCTION RENOVATION PROJECTS.
[M.3. Update on District Bond, Construction, and Renovation Projects]
PAGE 137 MAX.DO YOU HAVE ANY UPDATES FOR US?
>> JUST A SHORT FIVE-PAGE REPORT.
>> I KNOW Y'ALL DID ASK ME LAST TIME.
NATE IS ACTUALLY AT A PREVIOUSLY SCHEDULED FAMILY EVENT, BUT I DO HAVE SOME NOTES FROM HIM. CAN I GIVE YOU A [OVERLAPPING].
>> THESE ARE THINGS THAT HE THOUGHT ARE STANDOUTS THAT PEOPLE MAY WANT SOME INFORMATION ABOUT FOR VARIOUS REASONS.
STARTING HERE 23 BOND, JOHNSON HIGH SCHOOL, BAND HALL, WINDOW TENT WAS INSTALLED THIS WEEK AND ADDITIONAL SOUND PANDELS, AND WINDOW FILM PENDING INSTALLATION.
IN CASE, YOU'VE HEARD SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THE BAND HALL, WE'RE STILL DOING SOME MORE WORK OVER THERE.
AGAIN, 23 BOND HAYS HIGH SCHOOL, WEIGHT ROOM AND CONNECTOR ROAD AT THE BASEBALL FIELD IS COMPLETE.
LEMAN HIGH SCHOOL, THE AUDITORIUM AND CTE EDITION.
CONSTRUCTION IS ONGOING WITH SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION SCHEDULED FOR THE FIRST WEEK OF DECEMBER AND OCCUPANCY SCHEDULED FOR EARLY JANUARY 26.
THAT'S LEMAN, 25 BOND, MIDDLE SCHOOL SEVEN.
THE DESIGN MEETINGS ARE SCHEDULED AND THE STEERING COMMITTEES HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED, AND THOSE DESIGN MEETINGS ARE ACTUALLY STARTING THIS WEEK.
JOHNSON HIGH SCHOOL, AGAIN, 25 BOND, THE MAC OR THE MULTIPURPOSE ACTIVITY CENTER, THE PAD, WHERE THE PREP IS ONGOING.
THEY ENCOUNTERED SOME ROCK, AND THEY'RE DEALING WITH THAT.
THE EXISTING MARCHING BAND PAD AT JOHNSON HIGH SCHOOL.
THE LIGHTING IS SCHEDULED FOR SPRING OF 26 REPLACEMENT.
THAT WAS A START THERE, THAT MIGHT BE KEY INFORMATION FOR SOME PEOPLE.
HAYS HIGH SCHOOL, THE MAC, AGAIN, THE MULTIPURPOSE ACTIVITY CENTER.
LEMAN MAC IS ALSO ONGOING, AND THE FOUNDATION HAS ACTUALLY BEEN STARTED AT LEMAN, SO LEMAN IS IN THE LEAD, IF YOU WILL, FOR THE MULTIPURPOSE ACTIVITY CENTERS.
HIGH SCHOOL 3, WE'RE AT ABOUT 50% CD.
BELIEVE IT OR NOT. BID DATE IS RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER.
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THEY'RE BIDDING ON NOVEMBER 18.THE GMP1 FOR THE HIGH SCHOOL WILL BE COMING TO Y'ALL IN JANUARY OF 2026.
YOU'LL BE SEEING THE COST SHARING AGREEMENT WITH SUNFIELD FOR THE UTILITIES, PROBABLY A NOVEMBER INFORMATION ITEM AND A DECEMBER ACTION ITEM.
THEN I HAVE THE CONSTRUCTION WINDOW 1 AND 2 FOR THE MIDDLE SCHOOL TURF TRACK.
THEN WE'LL GIVE THAT TO YOU. THAT WAS THE QUICK THREE MINUTES.
>> WELL, I THINK ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD, WE WOULD LIKE TO THANK NATE FOR THAT.
APPRECIATE THAT INFORMATION COMING THIS WAY.
>> YOU'LL SEE [INAUDIBLE] IN WRITING.
>> NATE, I LOVE IT. THANK YOU SO MUCH, TEAM.
MS. LONGLY, HAVE A QUESTION FOR MAX?
CAN YOU GIVE US AN UPDATE ON THE CONSTRUCTION GOING ON AT TOM GREEN AND WHERE WE ARE AND WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS?
>> I GUESS ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO WHEN WE HAD HAD, I GUESS ABOUT OUR SIXTH OR SO STOP, DEPENDING ON WHO'S COUNTING AT TOM GREEN, BECAUSE OF THE UTILITIES, WE ASKED JACKSON CONSTRUCTION TO CEASE WORK UNTIL THEY GOT THE CHILLER LINES FIXED.
THEY WORKED ALL LAST WEEKEND TO DO SOME WORK IN THE KITCHEN AND CUT SOME OF THE NEW PIPE IN THAT'S GOING TO BE PERMANENT PIPE WHEN IT'S DONE.
WE TOLD THEM AS OF THIS MORNING THAT THEY COULD START WORK AGAIN BECAUSE THE CHILLER IS UP AND RUNNING, AND THEY DID WHAT THEY SAID THEY WERE GOING TO DO.
AT THIS POINT, THEY HAVE BEEN CLEARED TO START CONSTRUCTION AGAIN.
>> CAN YOU TELL ME WHEN IT IS EXPECTED TO HAVE THE TEMPORARY CLOSING OF THE TWO BUILDINGS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE ASKED THEM TO SPEED UP?
>> YES, MA'AM. THAT IS ALSO TO OCCUR AROUND THE FIRST OF THE YEAR BY JANUARY OR SO.
>> IT IS AFTER CHRISTMAS THAT WE'RE EXPECTING THAT TO BE COMPLETED?
>> THEN JACKSON CONSTRUCTION, HAVE THEY GOTTEN ALL OF THEIR THINGS FIGURED OUT MOVING FORWARD?
>> WE ARE CONTINUING TO WORK WITH THEM.
I THINK THINGS ARE A LOT BETTER, AND I THINK THE RECOVERY SCHEDULE THAT WAS PRESENTED IS A GOOD START AND WE'LL KEEP WORKING WITH?
>> THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT.
THEY'RE A GREAT GROUP TO WORK WITH AND ALSO COMMUNICATE WITH.
AT THE SAME TIME, WE HAVE TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT WE DO BUSINESS WITH THAT, THEY HAVE TO WORK AROUND OUR KIDS.
OUR KIDS CAN'T WORK AROUND THEM, AND TOM GREEN HAS BEEN THROUGH IT.
WE NEED TO MINIMIZE THAT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
AT THE SAME TIME, WE UNDERSTAND IT'S A REALLY OLD CAMPUS, AND THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME THINGS THAT POP UP AND HAPPEN, BUT JUST BE MINDFUL OF OUR KIDS AND OUR STAFF AND WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THEY HAVE TO CLOSE A CAMPUS OR SHUT DOWN, AND WE LOSE THAT VALUABLE INSTRUCTION TIME THAT IS SO HARD TO MAKE BACK UP.
>> I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS KEEPING ON THEM AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO ROCK AND ROLL. THANK YOU.
>> HEY, MR. CLEAVER, I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.
MAYBE SOMETHING TO JUST KEEP IN THE BACK OF YOUR HEAD.
I WAS JUST LOOKING AT WHERE THE HAYS HIGH SCHOOL ONE IS AND HOW CLOSE IT IS TO OUR NEIGHBORS IN MOUNTAIN CITY.
JUST WANTED TO KNOW IF YOU'D HEARD ANYTHING FROM THEM, OR IF YOU DO, WILL YOU LET US KNOW? WHEN THEY START SEEING HOW BIG THAT THING'S GOING TO BE?
>> I HAVE. I'VE ALREADY TALKED WITH RALPH MCLINTON ABOUT IT, AND WE'LL HAVE A MEETING ABOUT SOME THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT OVER THERE AS FAR AS THE FENCING AND MAKING SURE EVERY THING'S COORDINATED THE BEST AS POSSIBLE.
BUT YES, WE'VE HEARD FROM THE MAYOR.
>> OKAY. I'M NOT SURPRISED. THANK YOU.
>> MAX. JUST BACK ON MARQUEE WATCH.
I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THERE WAS AN ETA.
I DID SEE THE MARQUEE BEING WORKED ON AT RAMAGE ELEMENTARY.
JUST AN ETA ON WHEN THAT'S GOING TO COME ONLINE.
WE'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING GREAT THINGS ON OUR MARQUEES SOON, SO I WAS JUST CURIOUS.
>> SERIOUSLY, MAX, THANKS FOR THAT INFORMATION.
I THINK WE WOULD ALL LOVE OF THAT UPDATE ON EACH ONE OF THESE MEETINGS.
>> PUTTING THAT TOGETHER FOR US. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO M4 ON PAGE 138, REPORT OF FINANCIAL STATEMENTS, PURCHASE ORDERS AND PAYMENTS.
MS. OMERS HAVE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO ADD HERE? TEAM, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. MS. OMERS? NO. JEFF. GREAT. NOW, ON M5,
[M.5. First Reading of TASB Policy Update 126 affecting Local Policies]
THIS IS TO BE A FIRST READING OF TAB POLICY DATE 126, AFFECTING LOCAL POLICIES.THERE IS A ZILLION NEW POLICIES COMING ROUGH.
WE HAVE NOT GOT THESE UPDATES FROM TASBY, SO WE ARE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND PULL THIS ITEM FROM TONIGHT AND FROM NEXT WEEK.
IF WE GET THEM FROM NOVEMBER, IT WILL BE A FIRST READING IN NOVEMBER,
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SECOND READING IN DECEMBER.ANY REQUESTS FOR INFORMATION FROM THE BOARD.
TO MY LEFT, ANY QUESTIONS? ASK FOR QUESTIONS FROM MY RIGHT? NOTHING? TEAM, OUR NEXT BOARD MEETING WILL BE OCTOBER 27 NEXT MONDAY AT 5:30 P.M.
[O. Upcoming Board Meetings]
IF THERE'S NO FURTHER OBJECTIONS, WE ARE ADJOURNED AT 10:04 P.M.